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ROMs and Should I?

Hello,
I keep seeing in these forums many threads regarding ROMs. I know what they are but my question is...why should I mess with it. I have an HTC Touch GSM with WM6. Now if you tell me I can get the interface in general to be quicker and the wifi to connect sooner, then i'm sold.
Cheers,
Paul

Paul_Days said:
Hello,
I keep seeing in these forums many threads regarding ROMs. I know what they are but my question is...why should I mess with it. I have an HTC Touch GSM with WM6. Now if you tell me I can get the interface in general to be quicker and the wifi to connect sooner, then i'm sold.
Cheers,
Paul
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youll be very suprised at how much of a difference it makes to flash your phone with a rom itll make it faster due to the applications that u dont use water down ur programming memory and that can be released and run faster with them gone ...just look around and find one that fits ur use..promise u will be happy...just one thing to remember ..Read he insructions carefully and dont be scared to ask any questions ..have fun

Perfection,
I guess so, sound logical. What would be the best ROM for the HTC Touch GSM, I've always felt that the phone is a little hesistant, and I've done the best that i've could in stoping animations, sounds and some registry hacks. I mostly use the Office Suite, Messenger, Skype and Netfront Browser. Then on trips the mp3 player and cameras.
Just in case I have a whole assortment of 3rd party software like: Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change and SPB Mobile Shell, in case it's neccessary to know.
Also, how does one go abouts installing this, i have both Mac and PC, so as you said i'm not scared of asking or trying things out, my Treo 650 I've dont a hell a lot to it, and it still runs good, but the HTC is it's replacement.
Cheers,
Paul

Paul_Days said:
Perfection,
I guess so, sound logical. What would be the best ROM for the HTC Touch GSM, I've always felt that the phone is a little hesistant, and I've done the best that i've could in stoping animations, sounds and some registry hacks. I mostly use the Office Suite, Messenger, Skype and Netfront Browser. Then on trips the mp3 player and cameras.
Just in case I have a whole assortment of 3rd party software like: Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change and SPB Mobile Shell, in case it's neccessary to know.
Also, how does one go abouts installing this, i have both Mac and PC, so as you said i'm not scared of asking or trying things out, my Treo 650 I've dont a hell a lot to it, and it still runs good, but the HTC is it's replacement.
Cheers,
Paul
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Well i my self have a herald or atlas >>or normal people call it the t-mobile wing so i wouldnt know exactly which one is the best
for that model but i have done alot od flashing and u always need to just post a question to the senoir members they know alot of the info and work arounds.....I promise they will make a difference ..send them private message its faster..and if ur phone is a
touch then go to the forums that show the names >>> Vogue or the Elf just look at them to see whihc one looks like urs...speak or ask the question for better programming speed to on of the senoir members it should show if they are seniors under there names.

Will do, thanks again Perfection3.

What's the coolest program or feature you've used on your hd?

You know, like the features you show your friends and they say wow!
For me the G sensor application for using in the car is pretty cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422662
What program do you like best on your phone?
Looking forward to hearing your suggestions especially if it's free software others can try also.

I know this isn't specifically an HD program but I love WMWifiRouter.

TF3d Weather and Google Maps with GPS always gets people "ooh-ing" "aah-ing".

Maybe you could say why you like the programs too...

Klaxon 2.0.0.29
fancy alarm program that uses the g-sensor

definatly MusicID
People are stunned when I demonstrate the program.
It's so cool

MusicID and Teeter have impressed the few people I have shown.
For me I like having both Navigon & TomTom on one device (and the fact they load quickly - I had TomTom on my Orbit and I could have walked to my destination by the time it loaded)

My favorite is Astromist.
A planetarium in your palm with 390 mB data on the storagecard:
Detailed astronomical charts (planetarium with 2.5 millions of stars, 19000 Deep Sky Objects with their images),
Accurate simulators for Eclipses, Planets, Comets & Asteroids, or Artificial Satellites,
Intuitive atlases of the Moon and the planet Mars (1800 features and photos),
Smart Wireless control for your Telescopes including Dobsonians, GPS or Cameras.

Touch HD Remote Desktop connection to my Vista PC is really impressive! (thanks to the HD screen)

I've just installed MusicID, how useful and also cool can that be! The amount of times you are listening to a track in a club or on the radio, wondering who it is! Whip out your HD and find out!

jp7152 said:
You know, like the features you show your friends and they say wow!
For me the G sensor application for using in the car is pretty cool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422662
What program do you like best on your phone?
Looking forward to hearing your suggestions especially if it's free software others can try also.
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I will try Pocket GForce now. It's not on the Wiki as programs working on the HD, does it definitely work?

Without any doubt - my all time favourite game - Transport Tycoon Deluxe (http://www.esoftinteractive.com/openttd.html). It runs smoothly and full screen (WVGA) on my Touch HD :-D
Game on! :-D

Where can i get MusicID? is it free?

chaosxq said:
Where can i get MusicID? is it free?
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MusicID Here

hate to say it like lots of others but im impressed with MusicID as well

about MusicID
in the original thread there's talk about being uninstallable..
do you guys know that problem?
and how does it connect internet or phone or what?
sounds awesome, but i don't like flaws like hard to uninstall...

mitsu22 said:
about MusicID
in the original thread there's talk about being uninstallable..
do you guys know that problem?
and how does it connect internet or phone or what?
sounds awesome, but i don't like flaws like hard to uninstall...
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If you would have read a little further down in the original thread, you'd have seen that to uninstall, you simply run the cab again, let it uninstall the 'old' version, then cancel the new install. Simple as pie

mallman said:
hate to say it like lots of others but im impressed with MusicID as well
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Is it better than SHAZAM or just cheaper to use?

Shazam's music ID work with the touchscreen, previous versions where ported from symbian OS and only worked with the buttons.
MusicID is very cool.
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Is it better than SHAZAM or just cheaper to use?
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WOW~ Music ID is mind blowing... unbelievable. Thanks for the link and letting us know. Awesome. Now I cannot wait to show this off to my friends and family.

How to Show off the HD

Can anyone reccommend any apps which dont necessarily serve a purpose but are just cool to have on the Touch HD? Things like the diamond hologram and the lightsaber? Thanks.
btw, im sure this has been posted many times before but in this thread we're looking for cool gadget-type apps as opposed to games or tools which are useful.:

Look for the hologram software prepared for the Diamond. It works on the HD but you cannot zoom in/out because of the lack of hardware keys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450571

Thanks, but I kinda already mentioned the Hologram...

Sorry kinda skimmed through your post.
What about I Am Rich? Cloned from the famous iPhone app?

Also transfer some really high definition shots which are particularly in focus and sharp (|theres a difference|) and show em to people. Make sure they're bright too. The little HD screen is reall HD (high definition) in contrast to whats out there right now. Sure the Experia has the same screen resolution (480x800) but the screen is too small to actually allow one to enjoy the high resolution.

i always liked the guitar and piano tuning programe its freeware and always cool esp if your friends acan actually play and instrument. do a search its in the list of working programs

I lot of what you need is covered here in a similar thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469782&highlight=demo

Ive already got some nice pictures to show off the HD, but thanks for the idea.
The thread was kinda helpful but towards the end made me feel as if i had chosen the wrong device (touch HD over iPhone) as, at the end of the day, im the type of person who wants an entertainment device as opposed to one gears towards productivity. The Touch HDs GPU doesnt help things either...
Anyway, back on topic, any other apps? Thanks for your help so far

well u already mentioned apps like diamond saber , diamond beer .
u can try omniano , if u havent already
other windows mobile apps like g alarm or g watch made by members here look cool on the big screen .
or i contacts / sms chat
cant think of more apps but u can edit touch flo 3d use transparent clock or different themes etc. or maybe winterface ... it looks good on the hd

Any more Apps?

BeMario. Every time you jump it sounds.. bong bong

hipey said:
BeMario. Every time you jump it sounds.. bong bong
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That one was nice

I find the best way to show off the HD is to have a high resolution, high quality video, then play a bit of it to people. That gets wows! I've had mine since mid November and it still makes me go "wow" when I play videos encoded using the Encoder GUI from this forum!

That really does work better than it sounds. Thanks.
Any others?

Try MusicID - a guaranteed hit.
It used to be freely available, however there was some discussion whether it was freeware of shareware.

Music ID is awsome... I honestly dont know how I managed without it. Trying to recall half a lyric I thought I heard while I was drunk. I downloaded it a couple of weeks ago. It's still free as far as I know. Obviously it connects to the net to get the data, so if you're not on WiFi then you'll be charged by your network for data.
"quickmark" is good fun. (just mentioned it in another thread) It's a kind of barcode scanner, but only scans 2d barcodes. Still good fun, especially creating them for friends.

any others?

It's amusing to offer to save their internet connection, by setting up your WM phone as a Wifi router and allow them to use your connection.
Most amusing for iPod Touch users who don't have a data connection at all, but can use Wifi!

[Update]WM Music Player

Its gotten to the point where i feel that i should completely rewrite this app if any progress is going to be made .
So Im going to try to find some time to do just that.
so if anyones still using this, hopefully ill have something soon... its nowhere near done, but heres what i have so far.
v0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygEqcsRcqc
ive attached the (very) alpha version... It looks in your storage card only for your music. and is for wvga devices only.
click on the songs to add them to your now playing playlist, click on the + to add without playing the song.
the player saves the playlist when you click on the clock and minimize the form.
hopefully it works for you
with everything going on i might not be able keep up with this thread very well, but ill try to keep you updated.
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0.0.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_ut9H6kBI
You will also need a rom with WMP installed.... btw

Hi Timmy ,
i really like your windows media payer it's possible to send us your cab?
a big thinks !!!

Timmy212 said:
Im new to this Forum thing and feel pretty lost... BUT
I have been looking for a good music player that i liked, but really havent found anything so i decided i would venture off and make my own. This is my first ever phone app, written in .net 2.0 c#. So i thought i would come here for a little guidance since I've been kind of a ghost in the crowd for this site.
Anyway I have only been working on it for a few weekends and some week nights but i think its coming along nicely. I love to use it at work(which is what spawned the notification area... i would be lost without emails and appointments ) and i have basically tried to build it to what i wanted in a player.
I thought Id bring it here to see if anybody would be interested in helping test it out and like i said... maybe give some guidance.
Since i just started i dont really have a cab or anything, just the .exe from the debugger . but if you guys like it maybe I can make it into something that everyone can enjoy!
heres the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQzPVdEicd0
and pics...
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Hallo Timmy212, i am intressing on your player. Can you send a link for the player.

And can you tell us for which resolution is done?
I am WQVGA resolution.... i hope it's OK

Timmy212 said:
Im new to this Forum thing and feel pretty lost... BUT
I have been looking for a good music player that i liked, but really havent found anything so i decided i would venture off and make my own. This is my first ever phone app, written in .net 2.0 c#. So i thought i would come here for a little guidance since I've been kind of a ghost in the crowd for this site.
i hope you enjoy ...
and i hope it works .
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Hello Timmy212,
i can not open the Player. I have WM6.5.3 an the Files load in the Folder we are you write.
The dlls load in the windows folder. When open the player i have a error.
The specified module could not be found. I am press the details and have this error. myTunes.exe filenotfoundexception The specified module could not be found.
by
System.windows.formsAxhost.create witoutlicence(Guid clsid) etc etc...
we can help you for this problem.

cosmicgate said:
Hello Timmy212,
i can not open the Player. I have WM6.5.3 an the Files load in the Folder we are you write.
The dlls load in the windows folder. When open the player i have a error.
The specified module could not be found. I am press the details and have this error. myTunes.exe filenotfoundexception The specified module could not be found.
by
System.windows.formsAxhost.create witoutlicence(Guid clsid) etc etc...
we can help you for this problem.
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Interesting... I havent seen this error before. Im not sure how to go about troubleshooting that. Hopefully i can work on the player this weekend and see if i cant get a little more stable build up...
Sorry i dont have a definate answer... im trying to learn as fast as i can

Works great for me on my personal 6.5.3 (28008) Fuze build. In fact i love it and so far no bugs. Works fine over bluetooth. The only thing I would love to see added is AVRCP bluetooth remote support.

TaurenSnake said:
Works great for me on my personal 6.5.3 (28008) Fuze build. In fact i love it and so far no bugs. Works fine over bluetooth. The only thing I would love to see added is AVRCP bluetooth remote support.
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Thats definately on the "todo" list, but i havent had time to look into implementation yet... I'm glad to hear it works for someone though

Hi Timmy
First congrats for your work and your sharing. It's revolutionary in it's design!
After playing a bit I can see room for improvement:
1 enlarge the fonts
2 pressing play 2nd time pauses but the icon doesn't change
3 add volume control
4 add exit button
5 add stop button
6 add a screen off option to save power
In the minimised view:
7 the sliding effect seems reversed because the slider is not moving, consider a wheel effect (with or without slider)
8 shuffling through directories is not very responsive, I found the best response when swiping my fingernail on the top or the bottom of the central slider.
9 the directories names are hidden by the finger, maybe move them above the slider
10 enhance Dpad functionality : right/left are ok, up/down should switch dirs (now they behave like right/left) and action button should play/pause (now it's not responsive)
This is it for now
I wouldn't have bothered writing so much if I didn't think it has the potential to become a leading app, so keep up (I also think you are going to get more involved than you thought )
Big thanks !

Nice App run perfectly on my Axim x51 running WM6
Thanks!!!!!!

Hi Timmy212,
It seems to work OK, but on my VGA Loox N560 running Newplow's ROM for WM6.1 I cannot find out how to exit the program. Am I missing something obvious? There seems to be no menu or exit icon? It does look good though. Thank you.

fingerstoo said:
Hi Timmy212,
It seems to work OK, but on my VGA Loox N560 running Newplow's ROM for WM6.1 I cannot find out how to exit the program. Am I missing something obvious? There seems to be no menu or exit icon? It does look good though. Thank you.
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When you pull down the top drawer i had it set the windows state to normal so the x button should pop up in the normal windows taskbar... At least thats how i planned it .

tito12 said:
Hi Timmy
First congrats for your work and your sharing. It's revolutionary in it's design!
After playing a bit I can see room for improvement:
1 enlarge the fonts
2 pressing play 2nd time pauses but the icon doesn't change
3 add volume control
4 add exit button
5 add stop button
6 add a screen off option to save power
In the minimised view:
7 the sliding effect seems reversed because the slider is not moving, consider a wheel effect (with or without slider)
8 shuffling through directories is not very responsive, I found the best response when swiping my fingernail on the top or the bottom of the central slider.
9 the directories names are hidden by the finger, maybe move them above the slider
10 enhance Dpad functionality : right/left are ok, up/down should switch dirs (now they behave like right/left) and action button should play/pause (now it's not responsive)
This is it for now
I wouldn't have bothered writing so much if I didn't think it has the potential to become a leading app, so keep up (I also think you are going to get more involved than you thought )
Big thanks !
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Thanks for your suggestions! ...
all good ideas!
for 1. i Like the idea of seeing as much of the text as i can on the page which is why they are soo small but i have been thinking about increasing the size, especially for lower resolution devices.
2. I do need to implement this,
3. I intially liked the idea of just using the system volume but i might add to see if i like it
4. for my 6.5.1 rom when i minimize it brings up the x button, i didnt think about how 6.5.3 looks
6. again for my rom i just hit the power button and it turns that backlight off, but i will try to add this.
7. Im still trying to figure out exactly how i want this view to work... I really just wanted a Quick way to go through all the album art. Hopefully i can pull something off here
8. The sliding art just works by grabbing the center albumart and then moving it in the direction you want it to go. and if you slide it all the way over and keep your finger on the screen it will keep going until you lift up...
but like i said this MIGHT change
9. i will definately be moving some text around
10. i havent set anything up for the dpad... its just manipulating the listbox that had focus last. This will change
Im about 400 miles away from my main desktop so i havent done any more work on it... but i have been setting up my 6 year old laptop with all the mobile sdk's to hopefully keep the project running the next couple weeks till i can get back home

Thanks for the detailed answer mate, by the way on my build power button stops the music and for the rest, good luck but don't forget to enjoy your holiday

Installed the player in my device with WM 6.5.3 and it works very well.
Besides the points mentioned by Tito i would suggest an exit button as i have to slide down to reveal the taskbar and then close the player from there. On this bulid no exit button comes up.
Also ...is there an option to save playlists?

Timmy212 said:
When you pull down the top drawer i had it set the windows state to normal so the x button should pop up in the normal windows taskbar... At least thats how i planned it .
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Yup, feel a fool.... I found it after posting, but I notice that Claus1953 did not like it either. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I like your approach to the GUI design though. Up until now I have been using S2P from this site, by A_C. Because of GUI usability problems with later releases, I have stuck with his older 0.58 release. Your player is similar. I am sure you are familiar with S2P? I will consider using your program as it has some advantages already. Keep it up.

Hello Timmy212,
i found the problem. My operating system WM6.5.3 have not a windows mobile player, separate one mobile corelplayer.
Your more player from there mobile functions more player and not with others playern only with windows mobile.
This is a good player and function perfectly.
Sorry for my english.

claus1953 said:
Installed the player in my device with WM 6.5.3 and it works very well.
Besides the points mentioned by Tito i would suggest an exit button as i have to slide down to reveal the taskbar and then close the player from there. On this bulid no exit button comes up.
Also ...is there an option to save playlists?
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there is no way to save playlists yet... hopefully i can get it working soon though ... and also a close/minimise button will probably be in the works also.

cosmicgate said:
Hello Timmy212,
i found the problem. My operating system WM6.5.3 have not a windows mobile player, separate one mobile corelplayer.
Your more player from there mobile functions more player and not with others playern only with windows mobile.
This is a good player and function perfectly.
Sorry for my english.
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excellent... glad you got it working! I should probably figure out some requirements and post them sometime

just one question, sry for bothering you..
what about formats like:
mod, xm, sap, sid,
etc, etc?
any plans for plugins?
just mp3 player with(let's say).. nice look?

My T7373 Is Here !!! YAY !!

I haven't figured out how to do anything except insert the battery and sim but WOW .. My totally honest first impression is maybe I like it as well or better than my iphone .. That is saying A LOT !!!

If you like it already, just wait until you figure out how to turn it on!
And of course when you start flashing ROMS and so forth...
It is better than the iPhone yes, but it is an entirely different beast. Don't expect it to run perfectly stock. If you spend a little time hacking it you can get it to run almost exactly how you'd like it to.
And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone? I think so. Even after I have my phone set up perfectly on one ROM, the urge to reflash is so strong that I can only hold out for a month, maybe two at most, until I start all over again. Yay.

congrats! Once you start figuring your way around the phone be sure to visit this thread full of great apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
If you have any questions you know who to call ghostbusters!
enjoy your new phone

That thread that burton gave you is definitely the best place to start, to learn about all sorts of things you can do with and to your new fav gadget.
Installing apps and tweaks to your phone is usually a simple matter of obtaining a .cab file for whatever you want to install, copy the .cab to your phone (to a file on the SD card is best, so you can leave them there for future re-use), and clicking on the .cab to run it. Once you're comfortable doing that, I would highly recommend running the two cabs I've attached here, they're a good idea for any new TP2 owner; they improve the native memory management in the phone, and free up memory much better once apps are done using it, and they'll go a long way towards making your whole experience better (without them, your memory use will keep creeping up on you until you reset).

MooGoo said:
And really, isn't hacking half the fun of owning a WinMo phone?
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You are so right. I have the HTC Shift pretty much since it came to the USA .. I bought one - unleashed FULL WinMo .. sold it .. then missed it and bought another. I have Full WinMo and Phone on it .. I think all I need is blue-tooth on the WinMo side and for WinMo to recognize a memory card. Pretty sure neither of those hacks have been worked out. I can wait!!

PS .. thanks for the link and the files as well .. First thing I am going to do is sync my contacts .. then PLAY ..

Well the Shift is an even more different beast. That thing really is a mini-computer. Not sure how great of a phone it would make.
Anyone know if HTC is planning on coming out with a successor to the Shift?

The shift is for sure a computer. I have Win7 on it and WinMo 6 I think .. There is no bluetooth on the phone side so voice comes out of the speaker. If you held it up to your head it would look ridiculous.
Still ... it is nice to have a phone in it, only because you can

Miss my iphone desktop - Home Screen
I think I have been using my iphone too long because I am having a horrible time figuring out a design I like. I miss my iphone desktop.

If you haven't already, try out SPB mobile shell. It gives a very customizable interface w/ widgets.

I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??

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I think I have that App .. I will first look on my computer for it . thanks. The thing that I find annoying that I haven't figured out is when I click on the phone to make a call. It opens half keypad half contacts. No "hard" buttons to scroll up and down through the contact list. .. correct ??
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That is partialy correct. It actually brings up your call log. To pull up a number from your contacts just start typing on the keypads (either the number i.e 818 555 1234 or the name ie. Dad = 323). You can also click the all contacts button and go to a pure list of contacts, which you can then scroll through with the touch screen.