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Going from a TyTnII to a Touch Pro 2 a few bug & short comings become obvious in the TouchFlo interface.
Home
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
The alarm frequently doesn’t go off
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
People
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
Messages
It takes too long (5 seconds) for a message to change to read. Sending a contact by 3G it goes as MMS not SMS which it does when working just in Windows 6.1
If it’s a long message you can’t scroll up / down
The tab to enable the predictive 4 words is missing, only being enabled in the registry, possibly related but full querty keeps changing to a numbers only keypad or HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 0 to 1
Internet
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
(If you want to stop it auto connecting, just put a user name but now password in the connections setting)
Calendar
No week view
Music
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
Camera
Why isn’t the 5 MP like the touch HD?
Why isn’t the GPS location enabled to start, rather than having to go into the registry
Stocks
I don’t know as I don’t do them
Settings
This looks better in 2.5
Buttons
Only one can be remapped – I use Phone button long hold to get into Windows 6.1
A number of games, while in the game could be remapped for left right turn fire
Software
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
Also there wasn’t a radio, but thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 there is & it even has RDS, but more than 6 memories would be nice.
Even if it has a radio it still needs TMC for the traffic update in the CoPilot 7 GPS
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
I had a TREO & the software took a normal back up, then apply that to a replacement & you can’t see the difference. Why can’t Windows backup do this?
Voice Recorder & Radio : it all depends on where you get your device. Mine comes with both.
Upgrade ROM wipes everything : that has always been the case with Pocket PC, not just with wm6
Wow, that's a long rant. But a lot of the stuff can be addressed or will be in the next revision of TF3D.
cjatcti said:
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
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You can change the date format with Advanced Config tool.
cjatcti said:
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
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This is a little weak. You're deliberately doing something that a normal person would not normally do just to try to trick the device. I'm not buying this rant.
cjatcti said:
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
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Really should search for such a common issue.
cjatcti said:
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
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You can use Manila Today.
cjatcti said:
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
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This will be fixed with Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
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Use the phone app. IMHO, it's not as flashy but faster to search for a name in the phone app. Just type the person's name either with the dialpad or slideout keyboard.
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Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
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Opera does time out on me quite a bit. If it takes too long to read from a site, it gives the 500 error timeout. Anyway, you can choose to completely kill Opera from your running programs. Search for it if it really bothers you. I think someone from the Topaz forum figured it out.
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No week view
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Fixed in Manila v2.5
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Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
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I have quite a bit of music on my SD card and it doesn't take an annoyingly amount of time to load. Besides, when it's loading, your device is still very much functional.
There should be a search function to find a particular song. But I think it fine as long as all your music are tagged appropriately so that you can search via album or artist.
The library shows all music in your SD card and in your My Music folder in main memory. I don't see anything wrong with this setup. Where else would you want the library to look?
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Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
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Record is still there. It just no longer has a dedicated program link. Just go to Notes. Go to menu-view recording toolbar.
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Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
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This a little annoying. But I take this as an opportunity to clean out my device. I put organize all files into their respective folders, decide whether or not a particular app is useful enough to be reinstalled, etc.
Thank you for the reply & the links, I wasn’t trying to rant, just list the easily fixable short comings in one place & possibly HTC might get them fixed in a future release. I know it can be fun tinkering to improve, but I believe it should work out of the box.
Kitchens should be for extras
Time Zone Bug in the touch flow interface.
To avoid Outlook moving the times of my flights as the time zones change, I tell the phone not to auto update time zone & just change the time in my home town.
So when I arrived in Poland, I set my home town Cheltenham time on an hour. Later I discovered that the Phone had added GMT +1 Berlin & ignored the Warszawa time zone I had set.
When I came back to the US, turned on my phone looked later & it was asking me to select a city.
1) The problem with Outlook changing appointment times to suit time zones is just plane wrong.
2) Yet again Touch flow ignores a windows interface setting
3) It should at least ask you if it wants to change
4) It should look to see if you have a city in country you are in already selected instead of just adding more World Clock entries
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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frozenbutt said:
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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Of course, not officially released by HTC yet. But then, Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't officially released either and that didn't stop people from getting it on our devices...
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
boufa said:
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
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Yes, any non-sms messaging app for your phone would obviously use data (3G or EDGE connection) to communicate, and would need to be left on all the time to be able to receive incoming messages and notify you in real-time...so battery drain would be in direct proportion to that.
The best solution I've ever seen for that is Palringo, a free IM-integrator app that can connect you through most of the common IM networks (yahoo, AIM, Google talk, etc), or just direct through it's own (if I remember correctly)...meaning that as long as you and she both have the palringo client installed, you don't necessarily have to use any of those services to be able to IM each other. It's also free, and I seem to recall that it can be set (but isn't by default) to stay connected even when the phone goes to sleep, but don't quote me on that part.
It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
I seem to have lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize. That would solve the issue with accidental closing the program. It would have to be managed via the task manager.. no biggy.. and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
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If you'll find one, please let me know
lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize.
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it's the other way around. default for winmo is minimize, there is
an htc bundled app called taskman. it's in settings - task manager which is making apps close when you click X
plenty of other apps can change that too
and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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i made myself app doing change on backlight settings every morning and evening, I changed it for you to do reset
give it a try tell me if it's working for you and if error will pop up let me know what's it saying, at least line number
I am using Exchange server for work email and use LockPicker to get by the constant entering of a security code to un-lock the phone. Not sure I should load 2.2 because the developer has informed me that LockPicker will not work with 2.2. If anybody is running 2.2 and Exchange server, does 2.2 offer an option of the screen time out vs. the exchange lockout????
Im running exchange and have to enter the code if the phone sleeps for more than 15 minutes. The time is adjustable, plus the code entry keyboard is huge not a problem to enter at all, overall its a minor pain but workable. The guys that developed lockpicker have an app out that disables this, it is only in the beta stage now and not released to the general public but should be soon.
if found that any of my end users were attempting to disable/bypass the Exchange security...i would haul their ass to HR faster than they could enter their PIN.
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if found that any of my end users were attempting to disable/bypass the Exchange security...i would haul their ass to HR faster than they could enter their PIN.
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He He, I'm thinking if I were an IT guy i'd do that too. Lucky for me I'm an end user, I'm hoping somebody comes up with a way to just toggle the time to a longer value say options for 30 - 60 minutes. In reality the new code entry screen is a breeze to use, not such a big deal as before. I'm just wondering if the time delayed is specified by the Exchange server or if it is built into the phone app.
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I'm hoping somebody comes up with a way to just toggle the time to a longer value say options for 30 - 60 minutes.
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/shudders at the thought.
I haven't played with it yet, but pray there is no way for my end users to set a 60min lockout period. that's just waaaaaay too long. how long do you have before your work desktop auto-locks? 15min? and that is for a device that doesn't move and if anyone else is at it would draw attention.
perhaps you feel that you are not important on the food chain and have nothing important in your email. but as these type devices get more powerful folks keep more data on them... pictures, movies, xls, doc, mp3 etc. plus tons of email (with email addresses, names and numbers), some folks will setup the VPN function and map network folders or setup VNC/RDC connections (server names, ip addresses and domain name).
it's not "JUST" that someone may see who you're going to lunch with or that your racquetball game got rescheduled. its all that other crap that concerns us. stuff that you may or may not have. for things that you probably don't see as being a possible security breach. sorry if this has an overbearing tone, it's one of those things i have to beat into folks head everyday.
"i don't care if they know my password, maybe they'll do my work." /facepalm
no...they won't.
ask your favorite IT nerd how many pwd's he has floating in his head and how many times he has to unlock his computer each day.
/steps down from security soapbox
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/shudders at the thought.
I haven't played with it yet, but pray there is no way for my end users to set a 60min lockout period. that's just waaaaaay too long. how long do you have before your work desktop auto-locks? 15min? and that is for a device that doesn't move and if anyone else is at it would draw attention.
perhaps you feel that you are not important on the food chain and have nothing important in your email. but as these type devices get more powerful folks keep more data on them... pictures, movies, xls, doc, mp3 etc. plus tons of email (with email addresses, names and numbers), some folks will setup the VPN function and map network folders or setup VNC/RDC connections (server names, ip addresses and domain name).
it's not "JUST" that someone may see who you're going to lunch with or that your racquetball game got rescheduled. its all that other crap that concerns us. stuff that you may or may not have. for things that you probably don't see as being a possible security breach. sorry if this has an overbearing tone, it's one of those things i have to beat into folks head everyday.
"i don't care if they know my password, maybe they'll do my work." /facepalm
no...they won't.
ask your favorite IT nerd how many pwd's he has floating in his head and how many times he has to unlock his computer each day.
/steps down from security soapbox
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I here ya!!! can we comprimise at 55 mins???? Ok 30 mins?? ;-P How did you know my R-Ball game was rescheduled????????????
/retires from badgering the IT guy!
LOL ... if only we lived in a perfect world.
Solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745065
Hello, I have been a member of the forums for a while, and have an interesting problem, i usually browse the site an hour or two a night. During that time I usually have to log back in 4 or 5 times. Is there a setting somewhere in the control panel that controls my login timeout or something? surely its not my cookies, because other sites do not have this problem, only my favorite, XDA!
Computer specs
Thinkpad SL410
Windows 7 X64
Google chrome browser
Not sure if thats needed but figured I'd throw it in there.
Hope to hear back, Thank!
It did this to me a few times tonight thought it was weird hasent done it now for a few hours!
the website uses a cookie expiration function that manages active logins so that it removes your cookie after a certain amount of time of inactivity. that kind of function is set on the SERVER side, so it's got nothing to do with your computer.
it's pretty standard practice in the webdev world -- although i will admit that it does seem a little short at times. could be worth sending an email to the admin requesting he/she extend the cookie max time.
truthfully it sorta bugs me too. i like being able to leave it for a few hours and come back and not have to log back in. but thankfully the login form is pretty quick to use.
the point of the function is two-fold: (1) it increases security so that the likelihood of someone could gain unauthorized access to your account on your computer if you use a shared computer or if you don't lock your screen and (2) it also frees up server resources so that they can minimize bandwidth usage.
hope that helps explain it
If you wish to remain always logged in, tick the "Remember me" option when logging in. This will PERMANENTLY remember you, unless you choose to log out.
Don't do this on a public PC.
This stores a hash of your password, which authenticates you with the server.
vBulletin has a default session length of 15 minutes. I can't remember if XDA uses something different. If it's too short, let us know here and I'll pass it on, but it's not something many people have mentioned since we moved to vBulletin many many years ago...
Thank you for all of your responses, seems a lot of thought has gone into this, its not that big of a deal for me, just a minor inconvenience i can deal with. Thanks again!
Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
skycamefalling said:
How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
impruv said:
Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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ive noticed the same thing! they should do like they did on windows mobile when you scroll up you gotta press a button to load the next few cause theres no point loading every single text cause it can cause majorr lag
I had the same problem too. The only way to fix it is to delete the conversation.
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Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
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Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
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this is definitely a feature i would like to see!
Wish they add it in next update.
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My wp7 lags on messaging too after 1000 messages so slow
Darn, I was hoping it was just me and that i could fix it.
I really don't want to delete the conversation... guess I'll just have to live with it. I'm surprised they didn't implement the show more button like android/iPhone does it.
You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
Really??? You need that many texts???
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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Any phone would do that. Blackberries do it, Androids do it, and iPhones do it as well. It's time to set a reasonable threshold for cached texts. It lags for the same reason the XDA Forum list lags a lot of browsers...
Microsoft really needs to add Text Backup to the Devices Site, like MyPhone had...
Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
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I have several 1600-2200 message conversations. I haven't delete an sms since december of last year. there is no need in deleting them. fix the problem, move on.
smsbackup is great.
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Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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This.
Sure, some of those texts may well include important information but, and be honest, would you ever be able to find that one message out of 2000 when you actually needed it?
I'll admit, I don't text much these days as most everyone I used to text now owns a smartphone - I tend to email or IM. If I email all messages are stored in the cloud (Exchange, Hotmail, GMail etc etc) and easily searchable (I do wish WP7's email client would include server-search though) and if I get a piece of very important information thru IM I'll copy it into OneNote - which, again, lives in the cloud and is fully searchable.
Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
Yes me too. I didnt erase my sms since i bought this Mozart and i dont see lag at all up to now.
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Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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I promise somebody would find a problem with this... Like I said, I honestly don't mind because I don't keep thousands of texts, and I send a healthy amount a month... But I don't let them collect for a year like some users...
As far as the lag, I haven't seen it, I'm guessing because I keep it at a reasonable amount...
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Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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Its not vital to me, but sometimes you want to keep the texts from someone special, or someone who isn't around anymore. I would delete them, but I do not like deleting anything knowing that I'll NEVER get it back if I wanted. With the iPhone, I backed up the SMS database file iTunes backed up and then deleted the texts from the phone. That's all I needed.