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Hi,
I think tom and meschle should join forces, making a fast, well performing (meschle) rom with good applications with an awesome GUI (tom).
Tom's roms always have amazing bootscreens, themes, and an overall very nice GUI, whilst they lack performance.
Meschle's roms always perform well and are very fast, but they lack the visual aattractiveness as Tom's roms.
Therefore, combining the two would produce an all rounded super rom!
What do you all think?
you can do it, you re the man!
no not me, meschle and tom!
Agreed. But there would still have to be some compromises made as rom can't be 100% as beautiful as Tom's and 100% fast as Meschle's.
Whats wrong with the new Vanilla ? It is just perfect...
Just install HtcHome or what you prefer for your design change bootscreen if you like.
Can it be better ? I guess not
can't find the keyboard icon and skin as in B&B
I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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I agree with you this sener.
I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!
sener said:
I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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If you don't like it you don't have to use it, but why deny other people the opportunity to experience something new?
Just because you don't like the idea, doesn't mean you have use your first post ever to stop tom and meschle making a rom together......its their choice, not yours.
And also, where did i say they are the only cookers? - I didn't, so why say "First of all, they are not the only coockers". This fact is totally irrelevant.
I mentioned Tom and Meschle because they are the BEST cookers for Artemis (Not the only ones).
Oh and btw, learn to spell.
Well, they are the best cookers in this forum that publish their work. I'm pretty sure there are guys (or girls?) out there that laugh about the beginner mistakes people are making here.
I'm not saying that I'm better than any other cooker out there, but I never published any ROM for legal reasons and because I don't want 1000 questions/answers for each ROM I produce. No thanx, don't got the time.
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I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!
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I agree on this one!!
If somebody could provide a good kitchen with a better GIU, I would be able to learn to cook myself.
Now I just don't know how to start... you need to read/combine several threads to be able to get the info you need to start to learn...
If just some of those master cookers, can make a decent guide for us, we'll be able to do it ourselfs...
Hopefully one day somebody would do this guide and kitchen with a better gui, cause I really hope I can learn to cook
Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.
Registerme said:
Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.
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Thanks mate, really looking forward to your superguide!!
Hiya everybody!
I would love if someone could give me directions on where I can get good ROMs for flashing my brand new Artemis...
I'm brazilian, but I'm looking for a ROM in english with the best functions that people could get together....
I'm totally new to modding in here, tho I'm sorta pro in modding Motorola's MotoMING phone (my last one)
So if anyone could help me with directions of a newbie guide, I'd be glad....
I could write a newbie guide myself later on....when I lose the newbie status LOL
Check here for tips http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
There are also quite a number or ROMs in there too.
Although I would definately recommend this one.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365312 .. great speed, very light so you can add all your own apps and customize it how you like. Generally speakingm, after flashing alot of ROMs to my Orbit, I tend to stick with Meschle's ROMs and usually stick to his latest Vanilla. Although as I say there are alot of others, depends what your looking for from the ROM.
Any other questions Id be glad to help. I also have quite a collection of prgrams n customiations n stuff if your looking anything.
Thanks a lot for the hand!
It surely will come handy! I got the USPL to go over the CID locking system....
The carrier problem can be solved by the carrier itself, at least nowadays.....
To tell the truth, I'm in need of some tutorials on the best programs to have, what kind of stuff fits well in it...
I work with game design, and I'm starting to develop on python....I was wondering if there is anyway to run python programs in it too...
Last but not least, how much knowledge is necessary to work with Artemis?!?!!? LOL
Hmm unfortunately I dont do programming n such, i think you probably be better off asking those questions in the artemis developement / hacking section
If you were to develop Pocket PC applications, you may use eVC (free) or VS2005/8 (more expensive)
No idea about pythons.
How much knowledge? Probably nothing or as much as it is needed to read english. All you need is to experience and experiment to learn.
Regards,
Carty..
@fubofo
Thanks for answering again, man! I know that not everyone is a fan of programming stuff....
I got the ROM you said you were using and I'm gonna flash it today...hope it works and I don't end with a 15 hundred bucks brick....
@Carty
When I said knowledge, I ment time spent studying stuff made for it and etc...but still the ability to read english is way too complex for some people in my country....
I'll take a look at the eVC and see what can be done in it....
I have Eclipse's SDK and Visual Studio 2008 here....any of them is good for it?
Sorry u guys,
i'll stop with cooking roms becouse i feel really upset about people whining about "why is this not in you rom" "why don't you have the newest version of *** in your rom" "Where are the sreens" "Whats the E.T.A. on this rom".
And some of these guys act like you owe them something, and if you don't expect to their needs they get aggressive.
I have better things to do in my free time then answering stupid questions
I'm thru with it and probably never coming back here.
I've had a brilliant time here, and i'd like to thank out these people who ARE/WERE very helpfull to me:
ababrekar
Re-Mi
Noonski
Bepe
Tom-codon
Pkoper
HavocNl
Zoki
and many many others that i forget to mention, but have really contributed to this community.
you are in my heart guys!
I've donated the Surface rom pantry to surface_rom, a "close friend" of mine, who had some training in rom cooking from me, lets hope hell make the best of it.
gr. bram
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Diamond Surface Kitchen + info??????
Screenshots?????
I see nothing
can't wait....
promona said:
Diamond Surface Kitchen + info??????
Screenshots?????
I see nothing
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uhmmm...coming??
we are waiting!
c'mon guy !!
Can't wait....really can't wait....you're killing me with it...
Guys Guys Guys,
i didn't say that its coming today, i'm gonna temper the mood here
i think tomorrow it's finished.
gr. bram
Hey Bram,
is this also coming in NLD?
PS.: Loved your ROM on the Touch.
Which ROM is it based on?
congrats
wow, congratulations bram, I have used one of ur roms in touch also.
Hope your rom will sort out the memory leak issues with touchflo 3d.good luck and waiting to test ur rom once it is out.
hey bram,
nice to see your working on the diamond now.
Alwasy used your roms on my old touch.
2 questions.
the guy from elite sayd he worked on the RAM to make is run smoother and free up memory.
What did you do to improve performance.
and did you add tweaks from the tweaks list?
if so, could you tell us which numbers you used?
Thank you!
Cant wait to try your ROM.
any chance to have "Tweaked live messenger for dutch users" as optionnal ?
i'm not using live messenger and like to save memory...
Aaahh
will WM be in Dutch?
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Like he wrote "coming soon"
Am really waiting for this ROM. I hope you are able to Fix the Memory Leaks and improve System Performance. Good Luck.
if u are able to fix the audio booster bug, i will flash yr rom!
Guys / Girls / (Losers who try and stop others from using their work)
Here is a DUMP folder of the 1.39.****** ROM
Thanks goes out to the diamond project for trying ever so hard to prevent others from using their work as a base.
Have Fun!!
XIP will be uploaded next.
Download Link
thanks for that, but I really am hanging out for Elite 2.5
Thanks Walshieau for the dump
Where did you get this from?
Oh, and yes I'd also like to say I'm hanging out for Elite 2.5 as well...
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Thanks Walshieau for the dump
Where did you get this from?
Oh, and yes I'd also like to say I'm hanging out for Elite 2.5 as well...
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i ripped it off the Diamond Project Team. Seeing as they dont feel like sharing the original (which is ok, it will be released by HTC next month) so i thought id try and help the "community" out.
Hey Walshieau; thanks for the dump.. seeing as it comes directly from the Diamond Project Team ROM, does that mean that it also has missing TF3D animations? (i.e. as there were alot of transition effects/animations that were removed from the DPT ROM). Cheers.
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Hey Walshieau; thanks for the dump.. seeing as it comes directly from the Diamond Project Team ROM, does that mean that it also has missing TF3D animations? (i.e. as there were alot of transition effects/animations that were removed from the DPT ROM). Cheers.
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its a direct DUMP of that ROM, they also try todo tricky **** like merging ALL packages into one etc but meh, you guys now have the dump folder.
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i ripped it off the Diamond Project Team. Seeing as they dont feel like sharing the original (which is ok, it will be released by HTC next month) so i thought id try and help the "community" out.
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Thanks a lot mate
Thanks
Thank walshieau, this will be useful for building my own PERSONAL rom which I've always done for years..... I did notice all the extra pieces of protection they had put in which to be honest is there choice and I can respect it in a way although protecting base rom's is something relatively new.
However the really sticking point with me is there's a whole thread on here about changing the graphics on the touchflo plug-in which no one from the "Diamond Project Team" as donated any information to even though we can cleary see they have achieved this with their V1 rom which is a real shame. Maybe they choose to do this to give there roms the edge?
Please please don’t take my comments the wrong way I’m really not trying to flame ANYONE out there, I’m just posting my personal opinions as I rush back to behind my fire proof shield J lol
ratcom said:
Thank walshieau, this will be useful for building my own PERSONAL rom which I've always done for years..... I did notice all the extra pieces of protection they had put in which to be honest is there choice and I can respect it in a way although protecting base rom's is something relatively new.
However the really sticking point with me is there's a whole thread on here about changing the graphics on the touchflo plug-in which no one from the "Diamond Project Team" as donated any information to even though we can cleary see they have achieved this with their V1 rom which is a real shame. Maybe they choose to do this to give there roms the edge?
Please please don’t take my comments the wrong way I’m really not trying to flame ANYONE out there, I’m just posting my personal opinions as I rush back to behind my fire proof shield J lol
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the effects are "Action Scripts"... I dont care for these "protections", i dont see why, we are all part of the same community. But meh.
Yes, all this protection stuff got really bad... anyway, I'm inversing so much time to patch dll's of my ROMs that I don't want other to use it, so I made sure it is not possible that easy, sorry...
But protecting the base ROM is not one of my interest, so I'll try to upload the 1.93 OS this evening.
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Yes, all this protection stuff got really bad... anyway, I'm inversing so much time to patch dll's of my ROMs that I don't want other to use it, so I made sure it is not possible that easy, sorry...
But protecting the base ROM is not one of my interest, so I'll try to upload the 1.93 OS this evening.
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you should know i have no intention in removing the protection on your ROM's bepe
but yes i know you put alot of time and effort into your ROMs
Well I don't know about the rest of you but I think this protection attitude STINKS.
As at the end of the day I will refuse to use any such ROM. And I really don't care as there will be others such as Walshieau that make quality stuff and I will wait for that. The new graphics in TouchFLO 3D look nice, but I'm not supporting their 'ways'... It's really ****ing disappointing actually... The community is meant to be about SHARING, just give credit where credit is due!!! That's always the way it has worked. After all, the innovators are always a step ahead, so what are they actually worried about??? Who cares if someone rips off the new graphics? Everybody knows who is responsible for the original product anyway... This is ****ing retarded.
Personally I only need base rom. I understand that you work hard to improve your version. All of us would be greatfull for upload.
thx in advance
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Well I don't know about the rest of you but I think this protection attitude STINKS.
As at the end of the day I will refuse to use any such ROM. And I really don't care as there will be others such as Walshieau that make quality stuff and I will wait for that. The new graphics in TouchFLO 3D look nice, but I'm not supporting their 'ways'... It's really ****ing disappointing actually... The community is meant to be about SHARING, just give credit where credit is due!!! That's always the way it has worked. After all, the innovators are always a step ahead, so what are they actually worried about??? Who cares if someone rips off the new graphics? Everybody knows who is responsible for the original product anyway... This is ****ing retarded.
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hence why i do what i do with help from some un-named sources.
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
bepe said:
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
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haha yeah just saw that...
bepe said:
ok, no need to release it anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
tom was faster
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can u relase the 20270 build for porting to other devices bepe ?
Personally it seems daft to add protection to a cooked rom but I also appreciate the time and effort these guys put into their work, then someone else comes along and rips it off. So, I can understand people want to protect their work. BUT holding back on base ROMs just doesn´t make any sense... it helps all of us here in the community to have what we all want... a better working device. Cheers to walshieau for having the balls to bring this up and thanks in advance to bepe for the base ROM
or TOM
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can u relase the 20270 build for porting to other devices bepe ?
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It is not my build, got it from DF... they are about to release it.
If I'm not wrong there is a free SYS and XIP already
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It is not my build, got it from DF... they are about to release it.
If I'm not wrong there is a free SYS and XIP already
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ok. but it would be better if we can port from an original source, like a shipped ROM released by tom, rather than an already ported one like hermes or kaiser.
hi there and Happy new year..
I have found this forum and i am pretty happy for i find it a usefull forum with happy HTC users...
i have look allover to find more people that share all kinds of stuff...
i was looking for few things and i could not find it anywhere...
I am very new here as you can see this is my very first post...
i have a yahoo id if you guys want 2 cool home modified backgrounds... let me know i'll find a way to post them.
if you need more art work to be done i am willing to help out in exchange of software. i can create/change any gif/png/jpg. i can make custom backgrounds. so.. let me know
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
crossroads777 said:
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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WHOA WHOA slow down you over-achiever. Take a deep breath. Now, this should be your first read. It has a BUNCH of info. The site has a WIKI also that answers a ton of stuff. Yes, I have a Yahoo ID. It's in my signature, just send an invite.
lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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sorry guys,, newbees fault...
after i got the first answer i have found teh WIKI.. no bad intentions here...
i just saw so many ROMS... and i hardly know what they are.. just now trying to find out.. somebody enlighten me pls..
i am reading, reading..
thanks..
Start with CRC's rom.. good, fast, stable
This cant be flamed, BTW!!!! this can be great apreciatted.
I meet many designers and has magic on their hands (and HD's full of tricks on photoshop's projects!) well if you want to start... you can talk with joshkoss, CRC, abuzalsa and many others... cause at this time they are trying to change some icons in .PNG and .ICO full glossy pics maybe 32 x 32 or less like the Notification Icons in upper bar... so talk to him about your skills maybe you can give us new Icons or something... read about the images on the ROMS... what extension, or what kind, sizes, and wheigts...
Hope you can find your work here.