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Merging ROM's

Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".

HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
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yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...

walshieau said:
yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.

So, meaning to say, we can safely test only Black, Dutty, and LSVW, to see which one is better?...I understand it is a matter of preference, but some rom doesn't have what the other have...
Anyway, it is more fun to test and sort out all problem with all the roms, but sometimes, when they all realeased just about the same time... you have to pick one. Currently I'm on Black v2.5 from Dutty v1....

CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....

walshieau said:
umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.

CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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i dont talk down others ROMS.... i simply report the facts on request...
its as simple as that... he wanted to know the information to where the sources came from and the differences so i told him...
calm down... i think there are a box of tissues in your kitchen cupboard.... you sound like you need them...
i was refering to the issues with the Dopod Source... i did not say that you hadnt fixed those issues or found workarounds for them... so calm down chump...

CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!

Uhhh... I think the reason(s) for some of the chefs not wanting to collaborate might have just revealed themselves.

mrvanx said:
Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?

CUSTEL said:
I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....

walshieau said:
i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
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then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.

faria said:
then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
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yes... as i reiterated in my previous posts that i simply ripped apart the ROMS and said the Dopod beta has issues and is not what it seems...

pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums

thefunkygibbon said:
pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
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what about building an application that merges a rom from selectable "blocks"... so evry user can merge his own rom out of standard-parts (base + packagex + packagey etc).
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
with a possibility to build an own rom by simply selecting some packages everyone can realise his own ideas and we all can work together on those standard packages.
perhaps an online-directory for those packaes would by cool (like installaling software on linux)... at the moment it is realy hard to find al thos packages in thier newest version

Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!

Get it right!!!
HerrVorragend said:
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
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This is completely wrong. I have used and tested all of the ROMs. Yes. They do have a few select programs added to each of them. No. They are not overloaded!!! It is storage memory which is mostly empty. The add-ons if you were to actually look are very small. The only slightly bigger app would be any PDF viewer added. And that is still no biggy. A merged ROM---hmm well---who cares. A none FAULTLY ROM ---hmm well ---Thats what im all for!!! Peace

Lordsmiff said:
Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
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im with you on that one... mod lock the thread

simply put u cant merge roms because there are people that enjoy the cingular versions people that enjoy the dopod versions people that enjoy certiain features that dont pertain to others. It would be a nice concept but where dealing with roms which include many variations of options and mods that cater to those who benefit from it. So in essense there can be no one rom for anyone thats why even providers have different versions for diff markets. Its just no possible to have one version .Not with different providers and programs etc.
And i wouldnt bash any of the cookers out there because there doing a hell of a job some of there roms are almost close to being a OEM rom . I mean seriously there beating the microsft at there own game . These wm6 roms are fantastic . So why hate when your not contributing to the people as they are. Breaking down roms etc is fine but hoenslt ythe majority of us dont care where they come from we just reap the results from the cookers work and effort. I believe that it really imature to try to bash or disparage people that are apart of the whole opensource game. I mean there doing this for us ya know. And it takes hella time to do what they do something that the people talking trash do not put the time and effort to do.

Just before the threa gets locked I'djust like to re-iterate that we all have our own opinions on what makes a good rom so you'll never get one XDA ROM to suit everyone. Just look at Dutty - he releases 3 in one go as some like it clean, others with tools etc.
Let's all just be grateful for what we get and work together to solve the main, common issues that affect WM6 as a whole.

Elite Team ROM Project & Signing Team

Hi Guys,
So, this is the placeholder thread for a ROM we intend to produce... we want ideas... donations would be a plus, we don't actually have a Diamond.
Also, we want people familiar with building and extracting NBHs, or with a bit of savvy, who we can trust who we want to give our signing certificate to so they can sign ROMs (for yourself, and for other people)
Those interested, please post!

count me in!!!

Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.

I'll help in any way I can...

count me in if u guys feel i can apply for the team. read my works to know more about me

Me too, know the basics, but I'm not so retarded that I can't follow instructions to do anything you need once I've got one.
Rory

Count me in!

Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.

demonizator said:
Probably a noob question but anyways. Is this another team working on another project? I already donated to Tom's work. It doesn't really matter, I just want really nice things to happen really fast to the beloved Diamond. In fact I decided to wait for the Touch Pro but guess all this will jump start it when it finally arrives.
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yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!

Blartiartfast said:
Count me in (if you are not full). Classed as a noob here...Elsewhere less so. I read more than I write. Anything to help "put back" into the xda-dev's....Plus, just seen I live up the road from mrvanx...Might even know him LOL.
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Hmm we might have a 'northern' team for the project lol.
i'll help if i can.

Olipro said:
yes, another project... since Tom Codon is just a feckless untalented twit who uses other people to release **** (yep, jocky made his (unworking) Hard-SPL, not Tom), he had success with the Nike project in getting a free device, so he fancied freeloading his way to one here. (interestingly, I was originally slated to get a device... enough money was made but it seems that disappeared into Tom's pocket)
So, I frankly don't like this crap, so we're stepping in to take over basically... this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
Anyway folks, me, cmonex, bepe and walshieau plan to bang out a a suitable ROM for your delight.
So, anybody with ROMs, skills and anything to contribute, PM Me or Cmonex (or post here, we'll get around to PMing you)!
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So there is a reason to some signing! Never realised there were any politics here! As I've said already, I'll help with anything wanted...

Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing a sim unlocker.

Olipro said:
Yeah, I think HTC are going to **** themselves a bit when they find this... and believe me they will, they're not particularly fast off the mark at catching this crap, but they'll find it eventually.
Next week I'll throw a big piece of **** in the bonfire by releasing an unlocker.
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Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...

l3v5y said:
Olipro - Top of HTCs most wanted...
HTCs locking down of devices seems to fail as soon as someone who knows what they are doing even touches their systems...
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Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.

Olipro said:
Since they can never lock down the OS to prevent you running your own apps (because that'd never sell) they can't stop us putting stuff in RAM, so no matter what they try, we always have an angle to load our own stuff to flash.
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If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...

i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me

l3v5y said:
If they manage to completely rebuild the bootloader, you'd need to work out how to use it, which would at least slow you down...
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For sure it will take HTC longer to rebuild the bootloader completely

vua777 said:
i beleive "Hard-SPL" is a trademark of Oilpro (you know if you a hermes user)
ps: his old avatar is look more trustable, beleive me
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You called?

Job well done, everyone is applauding...
However if you delay SSPL/HSPL version to flash unsigned ROMs, someone may patch your patch.
Olipro said:
this is partly why we're releasing the Hard-SPL with signing, so good Ole Tom doesn't rip us off and resume his game.
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Now YOU are talking about a rip-off? You, who even ripped your signature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296734
Olipro said:
I was originally uninvolved in these politics, then people started telling me how Tom was deliberately trying to avoid working with me so he could release a Hard-SPL and keep the stuff to himself, well, I guess that ****ing backfired now.
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If you're not into politics why are you making things harder by confronting everyone all the time? Don't you see you are like tom_codon yourself, "shamelessly" accepting donations and "keeping the stuff" to yourself?

Oli and cmonex do a lot for this community whether you realize it or not. It seems like every new device that hits has oli and cmonex working on tools like hard spl and unlockers to further our tweaking and hacking needs. I can see why he gets frustrated with the state of things, he works quite hard on solving these technical challenges and all he gets for it is ripped off as in the case of people selling his unlockers on ebay. He may not seem like the friendliest of guys here but even if you don't like him you should at least respect him. I tip my hat to you oli and cmonex, you put up with more crap here than I likely would.

[10-07-2008]Thru with it

Sorry u guys,
i'll stop with cooking roms becouse i feel really upset about people whining about "why is this not in you rom" "why don't you have the newest version of *** in your rom" "Where are the sreens" "Whats the E.T.A. on this rom".
And some of these guys act like you owe them something, and if you don't expect to their needs they get aggressive.
I have better things to do in my free time then answering stupid questions
I'm thru with it and probably never coming back here.
I've had a brilliant time here, and i'd like to thank out these people who ARE/WERE very helpfull to me:
ababrekar
Re-Mi
Noonski
Bepe
Tom-codon
Pkoper
HavocNl
Zoki
and many many others that i forget to mention, but have really contributed to this community.
you are in my heart guys!
I've donated the Surface rom pantry to surface_rom, a "close friend" of mine, who had some training in rom cooking from me, lets hope hell make the best of it.
gr. bram

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Diamond Surface Kitchen + info??????
Screenshots?????
I see nothing

can't wait....

promona said:
Diamond Surface Kitchen + info??????
Screenshots?????
I see nothing
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uhmmm...coming??

we are waiting!

c'mon guy !!

Can't wait....really can't wait....you're killing me with it...

Guys Guys Guys,
i didn't say that its coming today, i'm gonna temper the mood here
i think tomorrow it's finished.
gr. bram

Hey Bram,
is this also coming in NLD?
PS.: Loved your ROM on the Touch.

Which ROM is it based on?

congrats
wow, congratulations bram, I have used one of ur roms in touch also.
Hope your rom will sort out the memory leak issues with touchflo 3d.good luck and waiting to test ur rom once it is out.

hey bram,
nice to see your working on the diamond now.
Alwasy used your roms on my old touch.
2 questions.
the guy from elite sayd he worked on the RAM to make is run smoother and free up memory.
What did you do to improve performance.
and did you add tweaks from the tweaks list?
if so, could you tell us which numbers you used?
Thank you!
Cant wait to try your ROM.

any chance to have "Tweaked live messenger for dutch users" as optionnal ?
i'm not using live messenger and like to save memory...

Aaahh
will WM be in Dutch?

promona said:
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Like he wrote "coming soon"

Am really waiting for this ROM. I hope you are able to Fix the Memory Leaks and improve System Performance. Good Luck.

if u are able to fix the audio booster bug, i will flash yr rom!

What ROM????

Hey Guys,
I haven't been here in a while, and I havent had my TyTn in a while either (lent it to a friend for almost a year...i know, im such a good friend) Well I got it back and I want to upgrade the ROM to something new/cool/fast.
What would you recommend? Which ROM and by whom?
Thanks guys, I was glad to see that XDA developers is still here

welcome back...a lot has been cooked up in the last year! for starters check out these great chefs WM6.1 threads/posts for details: abusalza, dvh, crc, joshkoss, and there are others...
try more than one...happy flashing

hmm such old question, you must have patience of a saint!

They've come a long way, and you'll be hard pressed to go wrong with any of the following:
CRCinAU's version 13 stable: I've been running this for the last 6 weeks, and never had a need to move off of it. CRC's AutoUpdate application is awesome for trying new features.
Abusalza's PDACorner releases... Really fast, I ran V20 for a long time after MRV left the Hermes forum for a newer device.
Joshkoss's Haloween release... I love this thing. It's amazingly fast, simple and has all the primary features I need. (google maps, opera that's fast, Youtube, MSOffice, and all the config tools to make it work well)
I've finally started trying the NRBS releases instead of the Normal ones. What a performance improvement.
Go read the wiki some, to understand the new jargon and instructions, and then start with any of these guys work and you won't be disappointed.
Happy flashing

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hmm such old question, you must have patience of a saint!
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LOL, So true...I was very close to the edge on this one

I think all above posted ROMs are great.
As a Tipp: Wait vor the V11 Final af joskoss, this will be great and amzingly fast
Another Tipp: Manila ROMs looks great but doesnt fit really into the system features of the Hermes device

thanks for the replies!!!!
Does anyone suggest a ROM over any other that has a combination of speed and features??

aga080 said:
thanks for the replies!!!!
Does anyone suggest a ROM over any other that has a combination of speed and features??
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the thing is mate, what works for might not work for you, the only way is to try! Check people's signature on what they use and have a play. Just remember this! as we don't know what you do behind your doors! or outside for that matter!

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zocster said:
the thing is mate, what works for might not work for you, the only way is to try! Check people's signature on what they use and have a play. Just remember this! as we don't know what you do behind your doors! or outside for that matter!
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thanks for the reply! you are right... there are so many variations i am asking a very ambiguous question...i guess what i was asking if there was one ROM that stood out among others as "the best rom" hands down...
I'm flashing right now with "HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_ WWE v3 / GER v1 "
it looks promising!!
thanks again everyone for the help!!!

aga080 said:
i guess what i was asking if there was one ROM that stood out among others as "the best rom" hands down...
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Nope there is no such a thing, they are all great in their own right at the end of the day, you decide what ROM to use for YOUR use.

Looking for a new ROM: suggestions please!

Hi all!,
I've been trying to avoid posting a thread like this for an age, so my apologies first and fore most!
I've been using Schap's WM6 pro 4.20 ROM since release. I LOVE the stability of it; where as other ROMS I've tried needed a hard reset after about a month Schap's is like the energiser bunny, it just keeps going and going and going and going...
Do you guys in your infinite wisdom know of any ROMs that can compete with 4.20? I'm not particularly bothered with bells and whistles as these can be installed later.
Thanks for your help and sorry again!
XaN

i always had luck with crc's stuff.

well .... what works for some may not work for others so the only way unfortunately is to try, and you have come to the right place! Try each one DVH, Josh, Abusalza, CRCinAU all great chefs, you need to work out what works for you unfortunately.
As I said many times, we don't know what you do behind closed doors with your hermes, and even outdoors for that matter!

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i always had luck with crc's stuff.
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CRC's stuff rocks. I personally switched to JoshKoss v10. All the chefs here work their a$$es off to make them as stable as possible, but I love these chefs ROMS.

zocster said:
well .... what works for some may not work for others so the only way unfortunately is to try, and you have come to the right place! Try each one DVH, Josh, Abusalza, CRCinAU all great chefs, you need to work out what works for you unfortunately. As I said many times, we don't know what you do behind closed doors with your hermes, and even outdoors for that matter!
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Glad U responded to this I don't think I could handle it again & again & again....

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Glad U responded to this I don't think I could handle it again & again & again....
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That's why I sent my apologies in advance.
I REALLY cut down on time spent on this board after schaps started his hiatus. I used to flash ROMs regularly, weekly almost, I just lost touch with things. I know that a choice of ROM is very much an individual thing so thanks for the heads up on the newer chefs out there.
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As I said many times, we don't know what you do behind closed doors with your hermes, and even outdoors for that matter!
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Behind closed doors... a gentleman never tells!
LoL

Cool! Here's a new rom by the very good chef randomize...it's full and more like the schaps roms! Happy Flashing!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443426

xan_asmodi said:
That's why I sent my apologies in advance.
I REALLY cut down on time spent on this board after schaps started his hiatus. I used to flash ROMs regularly, weekly almost, I just lost touch with things. I know that a choice of ROM is very much an individual thing so thanks for the heads up on the newer chefs out there.
Behind closed doors... a gentleman never tells!
LoL
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My halloween rom is very full pf goodies! Love your sense of humor dude!!

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My halloween rom is very full pf goodies! Love your sense of humor dude!!
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Cheers man! I'll give these suggestions a try.
One more question. If a rom is only available as a Windoze .exe file, what is the best way to slay the .exe to extract the internals so I can flash from my heratical Linux box. Saying use Windoze is not much help as I've already been consumed by the dark art of Linus Torvalds and don't have an M$ box!
Cheers, Dave

xan_asmodi said:
Cheers man! I'll give these suggestions a try.
One more question. If a rom is only available as a Windoze .exe file, what is the best way to slay the .exe to extract the internals so I can flash from my heratical Linux box. Saying use Windoze is not much help as I've already been consumed by the dark art of Linus Torvalds and don't have an M$ box!
Cheers, Dave
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Just make sure your phone is super cid unlocked, and put the RUU_signed.nbh file on an sd card and rename it hermimg.nbh.
Here are all the details,
Unlocking: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock
Flash from SD: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing
As for busting open a rom in exe form I'm not sure, especially on linux. If your wanting to do that with the shipped rom, there is one floating around already called AT&T striped.
Hope that helps