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WHAT YOU SAY wm6.5 on new wp7 devices

well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT

marko987 said:
well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT
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Yeah and then you press the phone button to drop a call right!
And good luck writing new WM drivers for you new hardware! HTC for sure won't hesitate to give you their specs.
I guess we have reached the end of road here. If you don't like WP7 and still want up-to-date hardware then there's no choice but jump to another OS.

I was talking with some devs and have answer from one of them he can do that for 30 days write new drivers for htc device so will wait and see I wanna hear your mind do you want that or not
no can that be done or not that is mine problem to find someone to do that for me

Hi,
I would be all for it!
Tam

marko987 said:
well wp7 is not for me all in what wm6.5 is good and why I want to use it wp7 is not near as good old 6.5 BUT??????????
what you think if we can port 6.5 on new high end devices of wp7 ???????, leave your post here I am still waiting for HTC first wp7 device and will try to make 6.5 work on it if not will buy leo cant wait november
SO WHAT YOU SAY GUYS WANNA TRY THAT
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Listen, I will support you for bold audacious thinking -- which some might call ridiculous. However, I will NOT calll it ridiculous. Why?
because everyone at XDA laughed and laughed when someone -- ha ha -- had the riDICulous idea of "could we port Android onto my T-Mobile Wing?" -- and Hah-hah -- ha -ha -- That's impossible!! ha hah! silly idiot -- first off you'd need linux drivers and right there you are dead in the water. Just impossible hardware wise.
And yet...
Did that deter darkstar62 ? Not one bit. Behold what he did despite all the "ha hah ridiculous -- hah hah impossible! hah hah idiot!" : Installable Linux Image for HTC Herald / T-Mobile Wing (UPDATED: Android Install)
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and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478161&page=3
That lead to WING-LINUX > here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
And
[PRJ] Wing-Linux on Opal: Linux & Android on OMAP850
And
[PRJ] Google Android Centre v2.6 [6Mar10] | Wing Linux - Elf / Elfin
Moral of the Story:
Don't rule your request out just yet. The kind of tenacity shown above is not a one-time-event at XDA ....

ok guys this is not ridiculous I talk to guy he told me if specs was like hd3 he can write drivers in 3 to 4 weeks so that is posible I need support from you he wount write that for one man ME come on think how that would be nice highend phone like hd3 and 6.5 on it would be perfect dont you think

marko987 said:
ok guys this is not ridiculous I talk to guy he told me if specs was like hd3 he can write drivers in 3 to 4 weeks so that is posible I need support from you he wount write that for one man ME come on think how that would be nice highend phone like hd3 and 6.5 on it would be perfect dont you think
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I'm sorry, but your lack of grammar in your posts concerns me that you're not serious about Windows Mobile 6.5 on a WP7 device, you're just joking around. Just an observation.

sorry for my eng I dont know to write very well but what you say I dont know eng because of that I am joking this is important theme for me is you dont think so dont leave comment
I want comments from guys like me who love 6.5 dont like wp7 but wants its hardware or devices so...........

and one more thing I will donate 100 euro to dev who tell me hi can work this out so I am very very serious about this
when he come with working version he will get his donation I didnt buy hd2 only for this so no more joking please I want your support and yours post about this thanks

The devices aren't even out yet, how can your be serious about it? On which decision do you buy a new phone? I don't get it? And what's the advantage anyway of having WM 6.5 run on one of the WP7 first-launch-devices? They are not very different compared to HD2. And if they have some additional graphics chips thingy you first need such drivers as well. Throw in another bunch of 100 euros, seems like you got enough of them available

dunno what to say....is support you to my very best....though there aren't aytihing i can do to help....remember, ridiculous(maybe crazy) thinking will create new stuff....so keep working on till one day you can proudly announce to the XDA-Dev's "WM 6.5.9(?) on HD3(?)" bah.... i just don't know what to write anymore...good luck!!!!

hfzarx said:
dunno what to say....is support you to my very best....though there aren't aytihing i can do to help....remember, ridiculous(maybe crazy) thinking will create new stuff....so keep working on till one day you can proudly announce to the XDA-Dev's "WM 6.5.9(?) on HD3(?)" bah.... i just don't know what to write anymore...good luck!!!!
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no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.

RAMMANN said:
no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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well this is in the WP7 thread, and this clearly says it all in the title...so how is that considered "spamming" of the threads. Don't open and read the thread if you dont wanna be involved with it.
In the near future i absolutly think its crazy that WP7 will be able to work our devices...however down the road months after WP7 has been released i CAN GURANTEE YOU one way or another its going to get ported over. There is no doubt in my mind that it wont be. The kernel and the core of WP7 already still has resembles to WM6.5, granted many other things has changed, the same core and idea remains similiar.
If we got android on our devices, theres no reason why a newer version of windows cant be....the question is HOW LONG, and WHAT DEVICES
now im still running a diamond, and honeslty anybody whose running a diamond/touch pro/diamond 2/touch pro 2/etc...WP7 WILL NOT BE AN EVERYDAY device for you... i think the HD2 will be the ONLY device that can run WP7 efficiently as a day in day out device.
hell sense 2012 runs sluggish on our devices and that was specifically created for our devices, so to load on an extremely heavy detailed OS like WP7 is just crazy.
To answer everyones question? YES WP7 WILL COME OUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER TO Windows Mobile phones. Will it work efficiently for any device before the HD2? NOPE.

Yes, go read the title again. it clearly says it's not about porting WP7 to HD2.....
And yes, I don't like WP7, but still I want to stay up-to-date and check out what's happening around it, that's why I'm reading in the section. And THIS rant was not directed against WP7 but to people SPAMMING the board with such requests. Like I said before if some dev. is ever able to do it, fine, that's great, but as long as this is SOOO FAR AWAY I think such threads are just hilarious. How could someone takes this for serious if the devices itself don't even exist right now???
Edit: to make my point a bit more clearer. In the dev. section there's is somewhere an app to imitate the WP7 notifications on WM. I think that's absolutely horrible, I don't need it, but I don't go and post in the thread "This sucks, I hate it" because the guy who developed it did actually something. It's some development and that's what XDA is about..... compared to THIS thread which is only SPAM, **** talk, whatever you call it....

Coburn64 said:
I'm sorry, but your lack of grammar in your posts concerns me that you're not serious about Windows Mobile 6.5 on a WP7 device, you're just joking around. Just an observation.
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This is not very appreciated.

[ElCondor] said:
This is not very appreciated.
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I agree 100%.
Though it is sometimes hard to tell if one is being duped or not by a troll exploiting the relentless imagination and audacity of XDA-developers to imagine things said to be "IMPOSSIBLE!", this is also an international community site -- and I don't even know but perhaps over 100 countries and languages represented here. English tends to be the unifying language, and for us native English-langauge speakers like myself, I have it simple. For people struggling with English as a second or third language, it indeed can be a very difficult thing to interact here at XDA.
No one should ever be criticized for their efforts in trying to be understood due to language barriers. And until such time as it's shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the OP is just tooling people around, it's disrespectful to attack a poster for language & grammar.
I'll add this:
there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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I really do understand this point -- and this is how I break it down: Using the example I used above, if someone like "darkstar62" were posting in the HACKING subforum that he is leading an initiative to "make this happen", then it would be perfectly valid here right now.
But to me it belongs in GENERAL, along with threads like "WP7 Epic Fail" -- because it's more theoretical and ideation vs a PROJECT. I don't begrudge the expression of the idea at all, even if it may not sound original. The problem here is simply that it's in the wrong forum, and if moved by a mod, it would be fine elsewhere.
My own view is that we have an enthusiastic WM user who, like so may, is bummed about the WP7 direction, and whether highly original or not, is thinking "well if MS won't support WM6.5, why not have XDA-devs carry it forward, if we can get it to run on the new phones... That way we can all take advantage of the new hardware that will keep coming, and for those who want to abandon the WP7 software, there could possibly be another path.
Nothing at all wrong with this thought. Please let's not kill enthusiasm. But if you feel it's either trolling or inappropriate for this forum, that's a completely different matter. In my view, it should be moved to Windows Phone GENERAL, and then it lives or dies just like any other thread... but it need not be trashed. It can die of attrition if no interest.

RAMMANN said:
no sorry, I think requests for such ridiculous and crazy ideas are nothing but annoying. people who might be able to do such things for sure don't take their ideas from stupid threads like this one. so in your case I'd rather shut up and wait and see what happens. if someone IS able to do it then you will discover it one day. no need to trying to "accelerate" the process. there's no need to spam the forums with such "groundbreaking ideas that noone ever imagined before" (Yes, sure) and if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all. Anyway, this is not supposed to be a direct assault to you, I'm just stating my opinion towards such nonsense **** talking in general.
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hahah what a sad little man.
You are complaining about spamming and being annoying? What do you think you have just done???
"if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all" ummm... maybe you should take some of your own advice?

quicksite said:
I really do understand this point -- and this is how I break it down: Using the example I used above, if someone like "darkstar62" were posting in the HACKING subforum that he is leading an initiative to "make this happen", then it would be perfectly valid here right now.
But to me it belongs in GENERAL, along with threads like "WP7 Epic Fail" -- because it's more theoretical and ideation vs a PROJECT. I don't begrudge the expression of the idea at all, even if it may not sound original. The problem here is simply that it's in the wrong forum, and if moved by a mod, it would be fine elsewhere.
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It's different whether the thread is based around a discussion, or just some trolling.
mrj said:
hahah what a sad little man.
You are complaining about spamming and being annoying? What do you think you have just done???
"if you can't contribute any real content then please don't post anything at all" ummm... maybe you should take some of your own advice?
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If you look at my contributions other than this thread then you'll see there is content...
Whatever, seems like you guys didn't get my point. Alright I already shut up! Sorry for disturbing the hot conversation....
Feel free to write history now without my stupid comments

Im sure you probably do contribute in other posts and have helped many people out.
I just thought it was a bit harsh to ping the guy for having an idea (even if it may be in the wrong forum)
I dont know much about WM7 at all, I heard something about no USB thumbdrive mode or multitasking (maybe that has changed? it was an old post) In that case people around here generally like to have a lot of control of their devices so maybe there would be a lot of interest in WM6.5 or android for WM7 devices?
peace
and yes there are a lot of rubbish posts that fill up the forums but this is the age of spam so I dont think we are going to do much about that.
RAMMANN said:
It's different whether the thread is based around a discussion, or just some trolling.
If you look at my contributions other than this thread then you'll see there is content...
Whatever, seems like you guys didn't get my point. Alright I already shut up! Sorry for disturbing the hot conversation....
Feel free to write history now without my stupid comments
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If you could say somthing to this guy what would you say to him?

http://davesays.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/windows-phone-sucks/

That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.

I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with

I can sum it up with three words - "get a life".

AndyFZ1S said:
That he is perfectly entitled to his opinion oh and that he is a complete tool
Its very easy to sum up windows phone in 24hours took me ages to actually work out all the functions and am still surprised by ones I don't know about today, Fan-boys will always be exactly that and he is probably too stubborn to admit anything different from what he is familiar with, As I said a complete tool with no imagination for change or willingness to accept anything other than his comforts, Sheepish behaviour we are all too familiar with these days.
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I agree - he was offered an evaluation for 30 days but sent the phone back after 1 day. I don't think he went into the evaluation with an open mind.
Also, his site says "I am NOT an average man ... I enjoy quality cutlery and firearms." Not someone I'd particularly want to argue with
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If he's a man to begin with. NOT an average man? Who does he think he is, Michael Jackson on Thriller?

http://davesays.wordpress.com/2012/05/26/windows-phone-sucks/#comment-19892
1.Dee | May 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Err, given your inability to say anything in an objective manor it doesn’t surprise me you have had difficulties adjusting to Windows Phone. It is different, ergo you need to learn. Let me say that again in case it didn’t sink in, Windows Phone is different to an iPhone, and Android, there for YOU have to LEARN.
The fact you ditched it after only a day, the fact you write like a teenage fan-boy and finally the fact that you haven’t been objective from the very first words that littered your blog here tells me and any other sane mature individual that you shouldn’t be doing such reviews any more, its a waste of energy, a waste of time and worst of all, its just plain inaccurate FUD.
Dont give up the day job son, or more likely, get your arse back to school.
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Thats what id say lol

I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

vnvman said:
I'd say nothing...never mess with keyboard gangstas, the simple fact that they have a blog just in order to share their worthless and arrogant words about things with complete strangers over the web means that they have some huge ego, which they don't show in real life because they're weak and they would get their arse smashed dealing with real people with real cohones. And they all work in IT, yeah right...
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Gangsta? If momma has to pick you up at school or you have to ride the bus to work, you ain't no gangsta. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post, good work.

At first I'd write myseld in rage.. I hate "kids" like this, people that idotic reviews of a new product with the conclusen it's ****ty because it's not like all the other comparable products. I mean only because Anroid looks like iOS, WP hast to do it too? Sure after one day, he knows everything about the Device. And if he'd really want a good navigation software, he'd purchased Navigon (or whatever it's called). Maybe then, maybe later I'd recognise what I'm doing and that there is no point in doing so, because attention is what he wants, and I'd delete my text again.
Afterall I argree with vnvman!
PS: Where do you drown a Hipstar? - In the Mainstream...

His 1st point is a lie...
All new LTE Windows phjones have Visual voicemail.
Old ones do also if the damn carriers would enable them.
His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
You can tap to focus the camera... IT focuses where you tap then takes the picture. Why the hell would you focus on something if you were not going to take the damn picture, omg. And you can set it so you don't accidently press the camera buttons in settings. This guy is complete BS.
Xbox games are seperate also Only acheivements are stored for prosterity. IT's not like you can't play one game without playing another.
I'd rather only the time be shown then using the ripp off from android for the notification center.
He complains about MS renaming yet he loves apple that decided not the call the ipad 3 nothing else but the "Ipad". What a marketing mess. WHich ipad do you own? You know i have the ipad. The new or old? I don't know just says ipad.
People like this piss me off.
I don't mind the iphone or android but when they say things that aren't true about other platforms they don't understand, it gets to me.

sinister1 said:
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Well for one I wouldn't post links to his blog. And if I saw a link to his blog I wouldn't click on it. No sense in upping his Google rank.
Frankly if I were to ever speak to him I would say I'm glad you have freedom of speech wherever you live and thank you for not posting to the Windows Phone section of XDA. The guys over in the Andriod section of this forum may be cursing Windows Phone every day. I don't know about it because I don't read that section. To each there own. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion... even if I think their opinion is really dumb. It only bothers me if they keep shoving it in my face for no apparent reason when they don't have anything else to contribute to the platform.

ROCOAFZ said:
His second thing on apps. Purely not true. Drummer roll please....
United Airline app... http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/043c89b2-f869-4306-b012-52a870bf5e72
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Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!

As others have already mentioned, this guy is a complete tool.
*No receipt scanning app - I use HandyScan and I love it.
*Populating People Hub with crap contacts from hotmail account - Well... that's what you get for not maintaining your hotmail contacts better. I set a friend up, a few weeks ago, with her first smart phone... the Lumia 710. On her RAZR, she had all her phone numbers. On her hotmail account, she had all her email addresses. Have to manually merge the two. A lengthy, but necessary process that only has to happen once. That this guy can't keep his contacts in good order is clearly NOT my problem.
*Camera functions suck - Yes, there is no question that the iPhone 4s has an amazing camera with good funtionality. Actually using it though is a complete PITA. I was teaching a few friends how to select focus and exposure points on their iPhones. So much work with pressing and long pressing. Oh, and I can't stand having to press the software button to snap the photo. I'm constantly hitting the home button instead of the shutter. It's remarkably awkward and unintuitive. This, however, is only my opinion based upon the fact that I've never own an iPhone and never well, but am quite skilled in how to actually use one.

If the guy doesn't want his Hotmail contacts to show up, it only takes a couple of steps to filter which contacts show up. Using the phone one day, he never gave it a chance.
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Ineedtoys said:
Hardly a proper app, have you read the reviews? Charging for crap like this probably does more harm than good to the 'platform'.
"doesnt retain info ...waste of money"
"Rip off. Author is a thief. This is a wrapper for free websites, nothing more than a bookmark. Until a proper app is released, just go to united.com.
"This app sucks"
"Worthless app. Doesn't retain data or keep you logged in. The website is much more user friendly."
"Absolute waste of money. Use the mobile website and you will get a better experience."
Not exactly the best example to defend WP!
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yes, but he did say there was "none"
Actually i would have used skyscanner or something else but he was saying one specific brand was not there.

As a regular consumer, who cares about what he says.
His false opinions are his own.
For gods sake judging by how he wrote this so-called "review" labels him as an iOS sheep and Android bridge troll, what a goddamn fcking retard.

I laughed so hard at this chaps apparent inability to take on new tech, he really does come across as being a pre teen keyboard warrior.
I for one am glad he doesnt like the OS, WP7 is better off without people who cannot count the amount of appendages they posess.
......................and Darwin slowly turns in his grave.

Xda os

Hi, everyone I am a new member of xda developers but i look out the forum for months. My opinion is that you are '' Gods ''. You can make everything work in the way you want. And I have a big question ; why you don't start a project for making an os. (ok, I know it is not easy but you can do it)
What s your opinion?

ilias1998 said:
Hi, everyone I am a new member of xda developers but i look out the forum for months. My opinion is that you are '' Gods ''. You can make everything work in the way you want. And I have a big question ; why you don't start a project for making an os. (ok, I know it is not easy but you can do it)
What s your opinion?
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Just my ideas:
For developing, maintaining and contributing an operation system, you need the skills (no problem for xda) and very good connections to the hardware manufacturers.
Not only via mails, chats, phone, etc. for communication and knowledge transfer, but also in economic/financial and legal affairs.
And the last part could be a problem for xda, as a free and open community - it implicates a kind of company/enterprise structure.
Maybe that would force xda to change into something different ... and that's not what I want.
So, IMO let other companies do the OS job, and xda can stay like it is ... and that's fine.
P.S.: For a smartphone or tablet, the firmware is based on a special OS, but it is the software "touched" by the user. So creating custom ROMs/kernels/apps/themes/etc. is already a great job, which is done in many many thread through-out xda for nearly all devices.

Ok......
It_ler said:
Just my ideas:
For developing, maintaining and contributing an operation system, you need the skills (no problem for xda) and very good connections to the hardware manufacturers.
Not only via mails, chats, phone, etc. for communication and knowledge transfer, but also in economic/financial and legal affairs.
And the last part could be a problem for xda, as a free and open community - it implicates a kind of company/enterprise structure.
Maybe that would force xda to change into something different ... and that's not what I want.
So, IMO let other companies do the OS job, and xda can stay like it is ... and that's fine.
P.S.: For a smartphone or tablet, the firmware is based on a special OS, but it is the software "touched" by the user. So creating custom ROMs/kernels/apps/themes/etc. is already a great job, which is done in many many thread through-out xda for nearly all devices.
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I agree with you in some points but first all I believe that if xda developers make their own os they won't have the restrictions( of thinks like
Devices warranties, licenses problems and other things like that.) they have. Also financial and legal affairs management is a problem that can be solved by xda staff(forum owner)

I posted in a thread kinda like this some time ago.
The thread was about XDA making their own phone/tablet and the talk of creating an OS cropped up in there.
It's the kind of idea that has it's good and bad points.
The main good point being that if there was a problem somewhere along the line, the staff would be easily able to get it sorted because of the amazing skill they have.
But the 2 main bad points (that I can think of) are:
•The OS scene would be really hard for a new competitor to break in to. Windows = HUGE. Android = HUGE. Apple = HUGE. They haven't got that status overnight.
It's took years and years to first get everything set up, then promote the company and then get the credibility and fanbase. It's not easy at all.
•If XDA were to make their own OS, I personally think it would ruin them.
I say this because XDA is renowned for the development and hacking of all these different devices over all these OSes. If they launched their own, it would take the spotlight off development for other OSes and if users didn't want to make the switch over, they're then left with no development, meaning that XDA then loses a ton of members.
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!

I agree with KC. I think the app is enough. Nice suggestion tho'

ilias1998 said:
Hi, everyone I am a new member of xda developers but i look out the forum for months. My opinion is that you are '' Gods ''. You can make everything work in the way you want. And I have a big question ; why you don't start a project for making an os. (ok, I know it is not easy but you can do it)
What s your opinion?
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The thread was about XDA making their own phone/tablet and the talk of creating an OS cropped up in there.

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chuqi said:
The thread was about XDA making their own phone/tablet and the talk of creating an OS cropped up in there.
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ilias1998 said:
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They're probably just trying to be sly about getting to 10 posts. I'll be keeping an eye on them anyway
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!

I am working on a simple preemptive multitasking OS (since i won the STM32 here), though it isn't aimed at competing with android but i had a different thing in my mind, bootstrapping it from OEM's bootloader. I am trying to stay as far as i can from the hardware so there are a lot of quirks which prevent it from being a full fledged OS, like all process share a single address space, infact if the device support file choose to, it will execute entirely in physical address space. From my experience so far, it should work on anything newer than ARMv6 (and with some hacks on ARMv5). I have it booting on HD2 but it's still not near completion, I use a round robin scheduler with priority scaled quantum to have best of both simplicity and prioritized tasks (Run longer instead of running often) while planning to replace it with priority queues in future.
Best part, I don't have a name yet

intresting...........
Rick_1995 said:
I am working on a simple preemptive multitasking OS (since i won the STM32 here), though it isn't aimed at competing with android but i had a different thing in my mind, bootstrapping it from OEM's bootloader. I am trying to stay as far as i can from the hardware so there are a lot of quirks which prevent it from being a full fledged OS, like all process share a single address space, infact if the device support file choose to, it will execute entirely in physical address space. From my experience so far, it should work on anything newer than ARMv6 (and with some hacks on ARMv5). I have it booting on HD2 but it's still not near completion, I use a round robin scheduler with priority scaled quantum to have best of both simplicity and prioritized tasks (Run longer instead of running often) while planning to replace it with priority queues in future.
Best part, I don't have a name yet
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ok,very intrensting.Is it going to be open source?Any screenshot or any feature?
if yes i would like to know if you don't have a problem

Rick_1995 said:
I am working on a simple preemptive multitasking OS (since i won the STM32 here), though it isn't aimed at competing with android but i had a different thing in my mind, bootstrapping it from OEM's bootloader. I am trying to stay as far as i can from the hardware so there are a lot of quirks which prevent it from being a full fledged OS, like all process share a single address space, infact if the device support file choose to, it will execute entirely in physical address space. From my experience so far, it should work on anything newer than ARMv6 (and with some hacks on ARMv5). I have it booting on HD2 but it's still not near completion, I use a round robin scheduler with priority scaled quantum to have best of both simplicity and prioritized tasks (Run longer instead of running often) while planning to replace it with priority queues in future.
Best part, I don't have a name yet
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My suggestion for the OS name: RickOS !
Ok, it's not very fancy, but I like straight and brief names.

hmmmmmmm..........
It_ler said:
My suggestion for the OS name: RickOS !
Ok, it's not very fancy, but I like straight and brief names.
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ilias1998 said:
ok,very intrensting.Is it going to be open source?Any screenshot or any feature?
if yes i would like to know if you don't have a problem
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It's not aimed at users as i just said, though it does have a framebuffer i wrote some time ago for another software i worked for Below are the screenshots of the framebuffer driver in that software and it's development branch (black screens). The kernel itself is non-intrusive and most of the device behavior is governed by the device files. As of now i have quite a lot working on HD2, I could easily port linux drivers with a few modifications. It will run any code written in C or C++.
And, yes It will be open but not unless i have something stable working (1st release).
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I completely agree with KC. I like XDA the way it is now.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

What is the oldest WORKING smartphones you still own? Share your YT demonstration.

Nowadays we all have relatively new devices. Lets see what still lives among us.
At the start of this thread, September 2015, what is the oldest WORKING device you still own.
Requirement:
~Your device age must be a minimum of 4 years +
~Take a video (use that new device:good, showing the device working.
*In the video, include the software version installed*
~Please offer some history on your device.
~Please post only one device per post
We are not here to simply discuss what you have owned, we're here to see these old guys that are still alive:good:
Please keep this thread clean and friendly.

JIC

Love the idea of this thread, especially with the video and I hope others take part in it
Anyways, my oldest *working* device is the EVO 3D.
The device came out in early 2011 so is about 4 years exactly and to me is a special device. Is the device that I started compiling Android from source and is what started #DirtyUnicorns for me.
At the time I was winzipping/porting ROMs on the EVO 4G and had felt that I've done everything I could possibly do on it and was looking for a newer device. A friend and now fellow dev @NYCHitman1 offered to donate his EVO 3D since he was moving on to the GNEX (I think) and I took him on that and loved it!
Started compiling unofficial AOKP builds and digging into source to see how things actually work. Started cherry picking features as users requested on my thread and sooner or later, it got to the point that it was no longer AOKP. Well, at least the AOKP that you compiled from stock. It had a ton of features on top of what AOKP offered and so I renamed it and it took off after that.
People started contributing to my little project and compiling for their devices and fast forward to today and is grown to it's own thing! I love it and is all because of this little device, the EVO 3D
Currently it has KitKat 4.4.4 and it runs fairly well. Only thing that's broke is the 3D camera but that's every AOSP rom for the EVO 3D since lack of source and blobs.

@Mazda
Thanks Alex, that's the ticket:good:

Awesome thread and very unique unfortunately I don't have any old devices anymore. But my oldest and first android was of course G1 from Tmo but the oldest of all was a palm pda. And of course an old...... Motorola with a laptop near it to get activated at the scene. Lol
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Nowadays we all have relatively new devices. Lets see what still lives among us.
At the start of this thread, September 2015, what is the oldest WORKING device you still own.
Requirement:
~Your device age must be a minimum of 4 years +
~Take a video (use that new device:good, showing the device working.
*In the video, include the software version installed*
~Please offer some history on your device.
~Please post only one device per post
We are not here to simply discuss what you have owned, we're here to see these old guys that are still alive:good:
Please keep this thread clean and friendly.
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/me cracks knuckles....
I give you the device that gave birth to this here site.... HTC Wallaby aka O2 XDA
* I purchased my HTC Wallaby in 2003, which makes it 12 years old (I guess it qualifies );
* While I forgot to shoot the build version of the ROM, it is on PocketPC 2002 (can be seen at the beginning of the video);
This phone is a marvel of the golden age of mobility, well before Apple was what we know today as crApple. I bought it while I was studying Engineering. I had owned a few other WinCE mobile devices before that (my first being a HP Jornada 520), but I wanted to have phone and PDA all in one (I had a Toshiba e740 at the time I bought this). Found a good deal on eBay and have had it ever since. That thing has been through thick and thin yet still has a battery that can hold a charge, even if only for a short while and it works flawlessly. Equipped with 32 MB of shared RAM and ROM, an Intel Xscale processor clocked at 200 MHz, BT and a SD card, this was ahead of its time in every sense of the word. It has a lot of our modern, Samsung "innovations" like the stylus and the new clip-on keyboard. It had no on board Wifi and was only GPRS capable, but to this day, it has lasted longer than any phone I have ever had. The device has seen loads of development in here and is the true bed of Linux on a mobile device (look for XANADUX)... A bad OEM update to PPC2003 was what brought me to this site back in '05... 10 years later, and I am still around (have gone up slightly in the hierarchy ever since )
Suddenly, I have the urge of trying to find the cab for Age of Empires 2 for PPC... This thing ran it flawlessly....
Good enough @TonyStark?
I could do another one with my Blue Angel but I guess you cannot really go too further back than this.

@egzthunder1
Excellent and thank you. It will take a major undertaking to find something much older If you do not see any other user post the Blue Angel, please do not hesitate.

Hmmm.... Droid 2...
I still have my original droid 2 and its honestly the worst system I have ever owned and know 7 other people who equally shared the same hate .... You would seriously die before making a call for help...

smartphone?? its my galaxy 5.. its with my dad right now...

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smartphone?? its my galaxy 5.. its with my dad right now...
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hahaha. i forgot to include. i still use it for calls. my dad just have it for now

I have several "smart" devices from my first Palm TX, all the way up to several newer Samsung devices and everything in between. Took me some time to get to the bottom of my electronics bin but I eventually found a good smart phone.
My first "smart" phone was the Blackberry Pearl 8100. It lasted me for about a year when I upgraded to my Palm Pixi and I went crazy from there. The Pearl was the device that first taught me the joys of customizing a device and in a round about way got me into rooting and ROMing. The first thing I did to it was to find a way to get third party apps on it without the presence of an app store. Once I figured that out I then figured out how to customize the color of the Pearl and my love for playing with mobile devices was born.
Even though I retired it from my personal use almost eight years it has been in use almost constantly until a year ago when I got my sister in law to give it back and got her upgraded to a Moto X. I pulled it out today and plugged it in and after about thirty minutes of charging I was able to play Brick Breaker on it for a whole two minutes before the battery died (thank you battery bulge!).
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HTC desire wildfire s used for around 5years now also its working properly without any issue using cm10 in it.Runs smooth,5mp camera without any crack.Almost fallen down 100 times from hand.Also works as a backup phone for me.

I have owned 2 old devices, Galaxy S1 just keeping in box as souvenir
Another still using, galaxy tab 7.7 legend, this device beloved by a lot of people so that still have XDA developers update new rom, special is Daniel_hk developer, he did a lot of rom for this device, his Omni rom 5.1.1 on my device now and continue to follow him for Mashmallow 6.0 which just on the way, I lost my account on forum so have registered this new and try to get ten posts soon to meet him at 6M thread
To @daniel_hk :
I have up your mm rom with TWRP 2.8.7.1, it have a problem till step I sign in Google account then it pop-up a lot warning that Google Apps stopped working then restart, this action work in cycle so setting cannot be finished if during settings skip sign in Google account then can finish settings but while get in play store with account then problem happen same, hope you recheck it tks!

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Wow... looks how far we have gone. New phone now is as powerful as a full feature computers - looking back 10 years ago.

Working? None, lol
But I remember the myth:

HTC Hero running CM 7 nightly.
Its right now in the bin of used phones. I don't really remember using it though it was my daily driver at the time.

I still have a droid 2. It became a much better phone after rooted and bloatware removed.
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Blackphone 2 - Review and basic tech info

Hello guys, i'm new here and registered because I wanted to discuss one of the phones I own.
This thread's objective is to bring attention of Silent Circle's (SGP) Blackphone 2 (BP2) owners because I believe we are few and share ROM-specific information, due to a lack of it on the internet and specially this forum.
Full Stock ROM for this device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/rom-blackphone-2-t3516909
Specs:
LTE and Worldwide 3G/HSPA+ connectivity
5.5" FullHD Gorilla Glass display, 1080x1920 pixels
Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 Octa-Core Processor ("About" shows MSM8939, but kernel compiled for MSM8916)
3GB RAM & 32GB internal storage
microSD card slot supports additional 128GB
13 MP BSI Camera Sensor (5 MP front)
3060 mAh Battery with Quick Charge 2.0
OS: Silent OS (Android 5.1.1 Lollipop + Cyanogenmod)
Dimensions: 152.40 x 76.40 x 7.90
Currently, I am full of hate for this phone's OS and my first objective right now is to get rid of that useless system called "Silent OS" (formelly "PrivatOS", another clownish commercial fork of AOSP+Cyanogenmod) that is installed on this phone.
I could've simply sold the phone or threw it out, but instead I would like to help other owners and myself since this forum is awesome.
So, here is my little review before I start a thread in the "Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking" section with info on my AOSP or OmniROM future build.
What drives me to flash a custom ROM at this phone?
Well, there are several reasons:
- improperly realized additional user spaces (actually there are 3), that drain the whole battery in some 20 minutes.
- insane battery drain at all by improperly modded OS.
- phone heats up very much, i believe due to improperly built OS
- it's impossible to get root with a current kernel due to well configured (applauding) SELinux in Enforcing mode that can't be turned off even by modifying the initrd.
- official BP2 representatives say they won't provide any root method.
- camera's FPS is disappointing, so slow, much lag, and even after numerous reports to their support it wasn't improved
- useless "Silent Circle" market with its useless apps (they were supposed to be free when there was Blackphone 1)
- "Silent Phone" application is just a paid analog of Telegram, it can't be removed!
- impossibility of removing the annoying "Google Now" widget from the main screen, even after a bunch of requests to their support since the phone was released.
- I don't want gapps at all and would prefer a clean ROM.
- This OS is full of bloatware.
- Its main unique features such as private user spaces and OS encryption are introduced in Android 6.0 by default
Finally, the main reason I bought it was I heard personally from their former CEO they will bring an active and passive cellular security into this phone, I've made a pre-order when I heard this because this would've beaten all other smartphones on the world.
Now I have it, and it's not 'NSA Proof' at all (as was described in mass media), this is bull**** because THIS PHONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTIVE/PASSIVE GSM COMPLEXES PROTECTION (A5 tracer, UnPing, imsi catcher detector, among others)
Proof: official BP2 team reply on the screenshot => https://s28.postimg.org/7bz8wx3h7/blackphone2.png
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The only way to make your communications secure on this phone is to use their paid app "Silent Phone", by the word of its creators. Lol.
What I dislike in design?
- Your "secure and NSA proof" phone's IMEI is written right on its rear panel! (WTF???)
Cool. So basically, while one of the main requirements to be an NSA-proof phone is ability to change IMEI on the fly, these guys decided just to write it on the back panel and introduced the full impossibility of changing it by not allowing to root the device. GENIOUS!!!
The Open Source part.
Just take a look at this wonderful and promising github repo with their "kernel": https://github.com/sgp-blackphone/Blackphone-BP2-Kernel
Great, isn't it? Looks like they are trolling us or something. I haven't even met a single line in that repo containing such strings as 'BP2' or 'Blackphone'.
"Let's just copy a source from kernel.org and publish it as our device's source code!" - GENIOUS!!!
Bottom line
I haven't described any PROS of this device because they don't really exist and the phone doesn't worth the price it's being sold for without active/passive GSM complexes protection. OS security is a thing that every actual android phone includes by default.
Basically, anyone who wants to use the main features of Blackphone 2 doesn't really need to buy the phone, it's enough to download the app 'Silent Phone' from Play Market and use it
Please post your thoughts/feedback about this device here.

I have one of these in the post from Hong-Kong, I was hoping I wouldn't need to flash a rom. Your post has me worried.
At least I got it cheap.

Well it's not that bad. Despite of my privacy and security based point of view, this device is quite useful for an average user who wants to trust their closed source.
I don't want to discourage users from trusting this company, it's only my point of view because I dont' use the half of functionality of a stock ROM and I can't remove it.
Also, this device is depending on security through obscurity, which is the worst way to do so.
As for an open source lover/activist, I prefer security through transparency and would like to have a custom AOSP/CGM build on this device, which I believe would make it good device.
Don't forget to write your opinion when you get the device!

I'll report back when I've gotten the phone and had a chance to use it a bit.

The full stock rom that you linked in your first post is based on Silent OS 2.0.8. Do you know if anything more up to date has been released?

Reieived yesterday a Blackphone 2. Got it for about 150 USD from Hong Kong.
Latest Silent OS version is 3.0.6a.
The camera app is useless and crap. So that I feel sorry for people who paid 500-600 USD for this phone. Does anybody have an idea how to improve it?

Would like to root blackphone 2 as well
Thank you very much for posting this . I purchased this phone and feel that was a mistake. I did not do enough research first and I thought that I'd root it and then be able to install firewall tools I wanted to.
I have not used the phone at all for many months (really ever) as I was unable to root. If there is anyone who knows how to root, I am willing to do anything. I would gladly install an altered version of this image if that was a way to get root. So seeing this image gives me hope. I don't know enough about rooting android to help unfortunately but please do keep this thread updated if anyone figures out how to obtain root on blackphone 2.

what about the possibility of flashing a custom rom actually ?

I picked on of these up for $100 delivered so would be happy to help test any rom tweaks/development.
Was wondering if it might be a clone (hardware) of another Android device but haven't found anything yet.

No custom rom?

Hi polartux.
As you said:
Currently, I am full of hate for this phone's OS and my first objective right now is to get rid of that useless system called "Silent OS" (formelly "PrivatOS", another clownish commercial fork of AOSP+Cyanogenmod) that is installed on this phone.[...] [...] So, here is my little review before I start a thread in the "Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking" section with info on my AOSP or OmniROM future build.
How is it going?
I think that you are the only one in the entire internet involved in a Blackphone2 custom rom project. All I can do is offer myself as a tester of your work. Hope you don't give up because this hardware is great and deserves to be used properly (without SilentOS).
Regards.

polartux said:
Hello guys, i'm new here and registered because I wanted to discuss one of the phones I own.
This thread's objective is to bring attention of Silent Circle's (SGP) Blackphone 2 (BP2) owners because I believe we are few and share ROM-specific information, due to a lack of it on the internet and specially this forum.
Please post your thoughts/feedback about this device here.
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Hey there
First of all, I feel your pain. This is frustrating to buy any device and discover it's crippled, and that you are not allowed to fix it.
I will try to post some of the discoveries I made soon. Please hold on...
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Guys, I have no longer the device because I just sold it. I also stopped trying developing the custom ROM because I had not enough support/information. SilentCircle have done everything to be hated by their users/customers, they're just a bunch of businessmen who don't really care about making this phone better.
I also recommend selling yours and buy something else

A litle guide to increase bp2 performance
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...e-make-bp2-t3735815/post75218344#post75218344