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Hi folks and greetings from Bulgaria.
I wondering are is possible some one to tell me how to increase avaliable RAM in my HTC Universal, because I used a new Garmin Mobile XT beta navigation software and he's like RAM eating machine.
Right now I'm with Helmi AKU3.3/ver 1.1 ROM - and I'm realy impressed from that ROM, but unfortunately after clean install my free RAM goes to 23.7 MB and this is not enough for Garmin XT - every time when a need to start application I must Restart.
Is it possible to edit Helmi's ROM and remove Page pool size in order to release more RAM ?
Thanks in advanced
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Is it possible to edit Helmi's ROM and remove Page pool size in order to release more RAM ?
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You can definitely edit Helmi's ROM to increase or decrease the pagepool size. But based on my experiments, decreasing the pagepool size also decreases the speed, and yes you are right, it will increase the available memory for the apps to use, but you are scrificing the speed applications run. You can definitely decrease it to as slow as a turtle's running speed, if you know what I mean.
You can definitely edit Helmi's ROM to increase or decrease the pagepool size. But based on my experiments, decreasing the pagepool size also decreases the speed, and yes you are right, it will increase the available memory for the apps to use, but you are scrificing the speed applications run. You can definitely decrease it to as slow as a turtle's running speed, if you know what I mean.
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Yeap I know exactly what this mean.
So is there some other trick to release a 2-3 MB ermanently?
I use SKtools to optimize my Universal, but I've managed to release no more than 500kb.
agisofttm said:
Yeap I know exactly what this mean.
So is there some other trick to release a 2-3 MB ermanently?
I use SKtools to optimize my Universal, but I've managed to release no more than 500kb.
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I too have problems with memory, which led me to experiment more on some free apps out there. This is a personal trick I just recently learned from all the AKU 3 versions that are coming out that I have been trying out that I would like to share with you and everyone.
I will attach OXIOS Memory CAB file below my post, you need both Oxios Hibernate and Oxios Close Apps for this trick to work.
This is the theory for the increase of memory: basically what I wanted to happen is to only have 1 application running in the background no matter what. Thus, opening another app automatically closes the other app, even just pressing the OK button. Just like what a Palm device does with regards to application handling.
One draw back though, you are eliminating the ability of the WM5 device to run multiple applications at the same time.
OK enough of the explanations, here is what you have to do:
1st: Download the copy of OXIOS apps I provided.
2nd: Run the CAB file to install.
3rd: Go to Windows>Start Menu>Programs>Accessories.
4th: Copy the shortcuts for both Oxios Close Apps and Oxios Hibernate.
5th: Go to Windows>Start Up.
6th: Paste both Oxios Close Apps and Oxios Hibernate.
7th: Perform a soft reset.
Basically this would make WM5 behave like a palm device. You can now only open one application at one time, thus ensuring you have enough memory for your current application to run.
You don't even need to close any app anymore manually, since it is done automatically for you now.
There are some exceptions to this however and they are:
1: Contacts Application
2: MMS Application
3: Calendar Application
4: Phone Application
These 4 apps can be opened all at the same time without closing automatically, a good thing because you want them to work together when sending messages or files. Plus, you also want the phone on at all times.
Good luck and let me know if you prefer this solution or suggestion.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285091
cktlcmd:
10x Man - I'll inform you about the results
I've another thing in my head:
Actualy I was with Radio ROM 1.09 and there I was have only 21MB free after fresh install - after upgrading to Radio 1.13 free memory was 23-24 MB - now I see that is new radio ROM 1.14.10 on FTP - when I tryed I'll inform you about results
Warning: This flash will overwrite your extended_rom!
This rom is very similar to my Dopod Lite (now D-Lite!, I just thought of it!) rom, however, this one is based on bepe's modified T-Mobile 3.6 rom, so it converts your extended_rom memory into additional storage memory. Until I can figure out exactly what bepe did and apply it to the D-Lite rom, I thought I'd put this out there for all you storage memory freaks. (You know who you are.) This is pretty much equivalent to my DopodLite V1.0, so you can read that thread for info about what it looks like, and what I've done to create it. I hope it proves to be just as stable.
Like the Dopod version, this is meant to be a stable, fast starting point for your own creativity. It's much easier to mix and match applications after flashing than before. If you get tired of a particular app, just remove it and try another. If you get tired of a particular skin, try a new look. There's plenty of stable, fast storage memory for loading your today screen utilities, phone apps, voice dialers, animated screens, etc, etc.
This rom does not have: Transcriber, voice dialer, catalog, error reporting, autoupdate, phone home (ceipui), games, calculator, some audio files and other odds and ends. It does include: Office 2007 (No OneNote. Thats not particularly useful unless you have it on your desktop, in which case it installs automatically anyway.), Java, .Net, all the Bluetooth and security stuff, MMS, Camera, and the rest of the basic functionality. If you want transcriber or a voice dialer or games feel free to add them. Ditto for the calculator, which needs replacing anyway.
At cold boot:
4mb page pool: 71.47 mb total storage, 67.10 mb free storage memory, 31.19 mb free program memory. If you delete the startup folder shortcuts, the program memory goes to 31.97 mb.
6mb page pool: 67.10 mb free storage, and program memory is 29.08, and 29.87 mb respectively.
T-Lite 4mb Rapidshare Link
T-Lite 6mb Rapidshare Link
Additional FTP mirror, courtesy of claymen
Enjoy!
Other Stuff
Functionality links:
Cingular 8525 keyboard fix
Cingular WAP settings
Lots of CABs
Lots more CABs
Lots of freeware
Can you make a screenshot of it m8
Great work btw!!
Re: screen shots
It looks just like the DopodLite, except the phone has a T-Mobile skin. I have some screen shots in the Dopod thread. (see my sig)
I'll try to put some here soon.
roms not bad just feedbacking from day of flashing roms thanx
edhaas... downloading now, wil give a run later on!
problem with the wifi it dosn't connect
edward
update:
wifi is ok now after HR
Re: WiFi
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problem with the wifi it dosn't connect
edward
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Hi Edward,
Got me nervous (I hadn't checked it), but I'm connected with my home network now. You may have to look up the registry setting to activate "G" capability if your home network is set up for "only G". (Or use a tweak utility that does it for you.) I'm running "G", with a linksys router with WAP, AES security. Works well.
Good luck!
Build No.
Any idea what build number is this ROM (e.g 1620 ....)
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Thanks
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Any idea what build number is this ROM (e.g 1620 ....)
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CE OS 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
To provide my feedback after a couple of hours using....
No problems encountered so far, 3G or WIFI working
Edhaas, as I am really crazy for more RAM, just a suggestion:
Removing application that is rarely used i.e. internet sharing, midlet manager, SAPsettings, streaming media, customer feedback, error reporting and some of the ringtones i.e under the windows\rings folder.
A noob question, noted that from Settings>About>version, the memory in is only 51.02 MB while the total/free storage memory is more than this. Is there any 'truth' in the version memory or just a display?
rgds
Memory discussion!
alancstan said:
To provide my feedback after a couple of hours using....
No problems encountered so far, 3G or WIFI working
Edhaas, as I am really crazy for more RAM, just a suggestion:
Removing application that is rarely used i.e. internet sharing, midlet manager, SAPsettings, streaming media, customer feedback, error reporting and some of the ringtones i.e under the windows\rings folder.
A noob question, noted that from Settings>About>version, the memory in is only 51.02 MB while the total/free storage memory is more than this. Is there any 'truth' in the version memory or just a display?
rgds
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Happy to help. Glad you're liking the rom. I'm not finding much different in feel from the D-Lite rom (which is a good thing). Everything is working well for me as well. HSPDA, a2dp, wireless stereo over wireless radio in sleep mode sounds great. No lockups so far. All my apps work as before.
Tutorial regarding memory: In this rom there are two types of built in memory, storage memory and program memory. They are physically different and cannot be interchanged via programming. In other roms, the storage memory is broken up and part if it is used as "extended_rom" which is meant to be hidden and used by carriers to put their particular customizations in, which are generally only used once after a hard-reset. This partition was about 10mb in size. Bepe has figured out a modification, which removes this partition and makes the user storage partition (where programs are stored, similar to a disk drive) correspondingly larger. Another partition is used to store the base programs which are "flashed" and include the operating system. Tadzio figured out how to move the boundary of this partition so that smaller roms will free up more storage memory as well.
So, end of history lesson. The storage memory is what is left after all of this, and is used as a "disk drive" equivalent, it is slower than the "program memory" which is like "ram" in your computer. However, storage memory is generally faster than SD card memory, and is preferred especially for "resident" or today screen type programs, because it's instantly available when you first turn on the device. Most of what I and others have done is to maximize the amount of this memory which is available to you, so you can fill it up with programs that load more quickly than if you put them in SD memory. In this rom that free space starts off at 71.47 mb, and then at start-up the operating system allocates some for it's own use, and in other roms customization programs loaded after cold reboot are loaded in there. So, in this rom there are actually 67mb available for the user to play with, which is a ton, and pretty much overkill for 99% of people including myself. As long as there are around 10mb free for the system, the device will work well.
Program memory is "ram". It is the fastest memory and programs in actual use are executed from there in chunks loaded from storage or SD card memory. It starts as 64mb, but the device uses a good chunk of it internally which we have no control over, and so reports the 51.02 mb as what is initially available. However, an additional chunk is used by the operating system, of around 15 mb, leaving the rest for us to actually use. The page pool, which is a buffer used between ram and storage memory comes out of this, as does the ram used by any start-up programs. Generally, as long as you have about 5 mb or so available, the device works pretty well.
[Edit: Addendum: In this rom I have removed error reporting and customer feedback, I'm having more difficulty removing the icons for them however. The other things you mention could be removed, but this would reduce functionality for folks who use those things, and would only add slightly to available storage memory, which as I stated above is already in the "overkill" category. I'll probably cut some more stuff in later versions as I gain experience with this rom, but I doubt there will be any noticeable difference in performance or usability.]
This is a bare-bones account, but hopefully will help you conceptualize things.
Best wishes, and enjoy!
Enjoy the silence!
Added addendum to above. Also I want to report over 50 downloads in less than 24 hours, and no real problems reported. Sounds like another quietly effective launch!
Enjoy your weekend!
Jbed Java MIDlet manager 20070622.2.1 installed but the manager application doesn't opens
edward
ROM hangs and then Hard Resets
Hi Edhaas,
I'm facing issues of Hard Resets.
This is already happenning twice in a day.
I do not have this issue using your last v1.2 versions.
Regards
Fei Yu
fychan,
Y do u need to hard reset? Pls elaborate...
rgds
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fychan,
Y do u need to hard reset? Pls elaborate...
rgds
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The device hangs randomly.... and once u do a softreset....
It then turns out it hard resets itself.
I'm not sure if its due to MortPlayer?
Anyone have this issue?
Regards
Never experience the problem u encountered... never install MortPlayer
Try running the rom without MortPlayer, c what happen!
rgds
@fychan, I run mortplayer and was going to flash this rom tonight.
What version of mortplayer are you running?
I am currently running 3.31b61 on edhaas's d-lite without issue.
However, on past roms (black 2.5 thru satin and sleuth's developer 2 and 3) I discovered that 3.31RC7 was more stable.
Perhaps downgrading might solve your issue.
fychan,
I can't seem to replicate your issue.
Are you running anything else that might be leading to your strange problem? I ran the latest mortplayer build, playing for a while, pausing, turning off and on, resetting... At no time did my machine reset itself.
BTW, from the little I did see, it looks like a fast little rom here. I can't keep it though as it has the sms/mms together.
IMO it would be useful to compare the new WM6 ROMs regarding the memory leaking. I mean mainly the ROMs with Home Plugin and/or Cube, because they proved to be quite memory hungry.
I think the latest versions should be counted: Tom's B&B 4.3, Meschle's Touch 3.0 and/or 3.01, and Vanilla 2.0, Bepe's build 0.53, maybe Fracoon's 2.2 too. But every experience on any rom regarding RAM decrease can be interesting.
I launch this thread because, as I see, this problem is the weakest point of many cooked rom (and maybe of the official versions too). So, let's say: after a half-day-long usage, without soft reset but running e.g. Tomtom, Windows Messenger, Ms Office, any music player etc. how much free Program memory (RAM) do you have? (Before measuring close all programs and run Hibernate once.)
I konow it's impossible to have an exact picture since every PDA is different, some owner-installed programs can be a big memory-consumer, but anyhow, sharing our experience might show some tendencies and help us to choose the ROM nearest to our needs.
So I begin:
Currently using Tom's 4.3, after half a day of normal usage it's around 18-19 M (from 25). -- IMO it's not bad, I've heard about far bigger leakage.
My previous rom was HTC official WM6 (3.13.405.1 WWE) it also started with around 25 M and 'ended' with 20 M. (but it doesn't have Cube).
cheers,
I've tried with meschel artemis touch 2.1 lite with cube and 3.0 lite with cube.
about 12.5 MB with first one and about 19.8/20 with other.
Great work, meschle!!!
Bye
I had Meschle's Premium Plus w/o cube and it averaged about 16-17Meg. Now I've got the Touch 3.01 and I get as low as 13Meg but I'm also running MS Voice Command which is a huge memory hog. If I didn't have MSVC I would prob still be at 16-17Meg with the programs I have running. The official WM5 P3300 ROM left about 18-19Meg avail on average.
You need to run hibernate!
I have tried different ROMs and found a workaround which up to now is not very convenient but effective: Use "Hibernate" after closing each application oder settings tab. This small app is included in many cooked ROMs, it releases memory.
First thing I do after a soft reset is using hibernate since it releases about 1-1.5 MB and that gave me at best times 28 MB RAM, I think that was with B&B v3.0 GER.
I think it is possible to combine the X-Button with hibernate through MortScript. MortScript is a Scripting tool for WM and can automate certain things, since you have to be familiar with programming and need a lot of patience I still didn't try it.
I don't know if Wisbar is able to perform two tasks when pushing the X Button. Then you could assign it to closing the app and then starting hibernate. Maybe I will ask the programmer if he will produce a version without the window that shows up every time, then it would be perfect.
I assigned hibernate to one of my buttons, when I close big apps I always run hibernat.
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I assigned hibernate to one of my buttons, when I close big apps I always run hibernat.
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Yes, I also often use Hibernate. I assigned it with HButton to teh OK/Close button (first function: close; scond: Hibernate).
I assumed that almost everyone use it, that's why I suggested in the first post that even the measuring should be after closing all apps and applying Hibernate.
Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
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Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
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I Confirm!!!!
I was wondering if we could get Manilla running faster converting Manila2D.exe (1MB) or its dlls into module...
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Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
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ROMS with Manila cooked in work only slightly slower, not enough to bother me at all. I think it all depends on what 3rd party software you then install on top.
The trick is either finding a Manila ROM which more or less everything you need it already (like Ervius's ROMS) or naked ROMS which have only the minimum (like Chalid's ROMS).
Also, I recommend using Mpenguin14's "M2DC (Manilla 2D Customizer)" to get rid of the Manila tabs at that the bottom that you don't really need. This reduces memory consumption and therefore improves performance. Some cooks are putting it into their ROMS, but there is a cab you can download too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
Mattster.
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
mosec said:
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
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I gave up on manilla and htc home. The clock can be replaced by PDC, weather by spb weather(there's probably a lighter solution though), app launcher by the start menu(people usually don't use a wide variety of apps, start menu can list the latest which will do just fine), sms/mms/calendar/tasks by the respective native plugins.
All the other apps are cute but useless, like, you already have a speed dial on the phone app, as for media just launch the respective apps.
manilla on trinity
Hi, I am happily running chalid's rom with Manilla2d - meaning that it runs correctly but can become quite slow (for example, A2DP skips if i keep wifi or other programs in the background). The problem, in my opinion, is not Manilla but...our trinity. The low amount of RAM makes any program which is consuming memory running slowly and/or lacking responsiveness. Try Igo8, for example, and plan a long route...this is true beyond manilla, and the less memory you have free, the more sluggish it becomes...
I came to the empirical conclusion that TNYYNT Roms are faster simply since he is keeping memory consumption/allocation low, and this is why Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
My conclusion: upgrade to touch HD ! it is the obvious way to improve the trinity: better screen, better CPU, better RAM....
lately i been using PDAviet ROM .44 and the manila user interface is relly fast and pleasant to use - the only think that I'm craving for is more RAM in the device
All is well if one application is running but have a few open and the sistem will complain
One thing that I see with this ROM is that if you start a memory intensive application - like opera 9 or your tube or tom tom it will close the ManilaUI temporarly and restart it automatically when you close the application so everything runs fast - but only one thing at the time
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Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
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Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
I switched back to a non manilla2d rom and my trinity is flying again! Windows are opening fast and overall performance is better, igo 8 works without crashing. Manilla looks great but I'm gonna hold back for now! Bye all
64M Ram a problem, but here is a work around
pzucchel has raised the main issue- it's not the code, the ROM the M2D or iGO8. Our Trinity is only 64M RAM, and with operating system, if we have 25-27M free RAM we are lucky. Running M2D will normally eat up 10M or so more. With careful memory management it will not slow down our phone. however it will not allow to have M2D as a today plug-in and run iGO8...
Having M2D in the cooked ROM helps a bit as far as speed (not significant) but will not help in memory management. So that was the *****ing part of the post. now let's have a work around. It is not a solution- yet it will allow us to enjoy M2D and iGO8 without getting crazy, and without a need to reset the phone 7 times a day...
1. Install a naked ROM. Look for ones that allow 25M free RAM after installation. There are few of them. If they are naked+M2D and leave 20M free, it is good enough. Having M2D in the ROM means no M2D updates possible. Having M2D installed manually means lots of work and a bit slower performance- each one knows what's best for himself.
2. install SKTOOLS 4.4.1 (Buy it! it worth the investment). Optimize to maximum memory. Our good old trinity works fast enough even with this setup. Also- turn shadow services on to free RAM. Don't mess up with anything else there. We are after more free RAM ONLY !
3. Install mToday. It's a small nifty free tool, that allows the user to switch easy between today plug-ins. Set M2D on one screen, and iGO8 on the 2nd one. Assign a key for mToday so by a push of a button you can switch M2D off and get iGO8 plug in on... For the lazy ones I am attaching it.
4. Make sure the following lines are in your sys.txt in the IGO8 folder. I mean the one in main memory under program files, not the SD folder, although for recovery purposes, make them both identical:
[debug]
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[navigation]
sim_speed_factor=3
True- it still will not allow using TTS , but that is kind of pushing the limits of the phone. I could use TTS if I turn the phone off, kill 3G and GPRS, push no mail, etc. but after all if I wanted a GPS device only, I could have bought one..
5. For TomTom users- same thing - kill M2D using mToday and keep running it. I did not try TT7 but TT6 was very much an easy run on the trinity, before I moved to iGO8.
Special thanks to the cookers, current and the ones who left this forum, for their dedication, time spent for this community, and insight. I am merely a tester, and I hope this post will make some other trinity users happy campers.
Cheers
BigE
I had no problems running the WWE evirus rom with M2D and Tomtom7
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Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
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I have no problem running tomtom7 and igo8 with chalid's 0.8rom.
but before i run igo, i have to close all running apps first.
like bigE mentioned, invest in SKTools. It's a great utility. I have its "free ram" apps as one of my shortcut. i always run it bfore i run any gps apps.
iGO8 and M2D- is it really running together?
rockuman_ex,
Yes, iGO may seem to work with while M2D is on, but, is it really? Here are some observations:
1. Choose to calculate a 1,000 mile away destination when they both are on - even with SKTOOLS I am running out of memory for iGO.
2. Have them both run, and try answering a call at the same time. Even with 1.5M reserved for 'non iGO' use in the sys.txt - most likely phone will freeze.
I have no experience with TT7. I have abandoned TT for iGO because I am travelling to destinations I could not have maps for TT in the TT6 era. I have got spolied by iGO and can't go back to TT, although I have to admit TT is making more sense for the trinity. But like all of us- I want it all...
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick. Oh well- that is what we call experience, learning from mistakes...
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rockuman_ex,
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick....
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I'd say these days, 18 months with one phone is pretty good
Hi, can anyone explain the reasons why a ROMs RAM usage is high?
For example, the ROM I am currently using is up at 90%. After a reboot its around 75% and it doesnt take long to get up to 90%. If I use free RAM on level 1 it tells me "No change". If I use level 2 then it ruins touch flow 3d and I need to reboot.
I only need more RAM to run applications, but my idea is that regardless of the applications installed, if none are running then the RAM usage shouldnt be that high.. ? For example, you could install loads of stuff on your windows XP machine, but RAM only gets used when you load the applications right... ?
I have run task manager, and in the order of most RAM usage here are the things running currently at 92% RAM
gwes.exe 24394 kb
cprog.exe 7920 kb
device.exe 3658 kb
manilla.exe 3553 kb
shell32.exe 2705 kb
services.exe 2686 kb
filesys.exe 2289 kb
dotTaskMgr.exe 97 kb
connmgr.exe 96 kb
tmail.exe 45 kb
SAPSettings.exe 1 kb
NK.EXE 1 kb
total 47445 kb (or almost 50mb of RAM)
Now, I know that manilla consumes WAY more ram than titanium. But I prefer manilla!
Does any ROM cookers give me a brief understanding of why certain ROMS use more RAM than others?
I've even gone as far as changing the theme but to be honest I dont think it made any difference..
I am a complete N00b but I like to read and use google so if people can give me some direction I will go away and do some research!
Thanks!
BUMP...
Can anyone show me the light?
WinMo 6.5 is also more RAM-hungry than 6.1.
which Page Pool does ur ROM have?
i think it is set to 0 !
change it to 12 or 16
WBR
Siemens Lover
Hi Guys!! Thanks for both your replies. So I googled about the page pool as I had heard this mentioned before. It's a little like virtual memory on PC's right?
So I used the page pool changer to tell me what my rom has as it's pagepool and from what I can tell, I have 8mb.. Do you agree? I've attached a screenshot.
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WinMo 6.5 is also more RAM-hungry than 6.1.
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Yea I understand! Do you know why it gradually increases the ram usage up to over 90% though?
try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)
there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps
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try with changing pagepool (8mb-12mb)
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Thanks Benko!! I will try and see how it goes
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there are many ways to get more free ram... easier is pagepool but if you lower pp you will loose rom speed so it's not the best choice... other things have to be done by the cooker not the rom user.
Obviously if you use manila+phonecanvas+wm6.5 you will have a high memory usage rom...
edit: between if you want a good program to free the max of ram, use the one i made in my signature.. but you will have to configure it for your apps
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I don't mind taking ROMs apart and playing with things. I would like to learn how to cook
Thanks for the App.
Defiantly agree with the OP.
I had NRG's Rom installed, and I'll say he manila and titanium on his ROM is mega fast. Every animation is so fluent, so much eye kandy and hi-res icons...
Was perfect...
Till I started to actually use programs that couldn't even start. I was on mainila looking at photos, and hit 'album' but cant open the album. can't use the camera.couldn't play games or anything..
currently on Benkos full ROM, is a little buggy, animations aren't so fluid but usally are fine however am pleased i can actually use programs.
I could NOT use manila but same as OP, I prefer it.. I'm keen on the later versions which have colour icons on the slider etc... Not so keen on titanium but i prefer everything else on 6.5. I'm wondering if I really need to use 6.5 as it does use a whole lot more RAM than 6.1
Think about it... what are the real differences between WM 6.1 and 6.5? Do you really need the 6.5 start menu? Titanium? WM Slide to unlock?
The problem about the WM6.5 is the graphics and windows event service (gwes). It consumes to much RAM. Phones with 128MB RAM are made to run WM6.1
Try this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565243&highlight=akeo
It is stable, fast, a lot of free RAM and very clean. And if you still need more RAM, just try to disable TF3D and tachi phone canvas. You are going to get 38% used RAM after boot. I installed IphoneToday 1.2.5 (very lightweight and fast) and S2U2. After boot I still get ~40% of used RAM (~70MB free RAM).
I'm pretty sure I need WM6.5... After using 6.1 for a whole year and getting frustrated at the little things, like looking through phone contacts, dragging the list up a tiny bit and then the phone automatically scrolling all through my 200 contacts to the bottom.. then if I tried to go back, I would end up right back at the start. WM6.5 fixes all the things that either I hated, didnt work in 6.1 or both.
I'm learning how to cook now so I can just build a ROM that I'll use for myself.
WM6.5 isn't really much but ram-hungry, eyecandy graphics. The scrolling is improved, that's correct, but with Sense 2.5 (newest Manila) you will barely need to use the old scrolling of WM6.1 as most stuff is integrated. I can warmly recommend Kisja's WM 6.1 with Sense 2.5, although you might wanna wait for the final release (in RC1 now).
The reason for your high RAM usage is mostly graphics - phone canvas, Manila and some WM6.5 graphics. The more tabs in Manila you open, the more RAM it uses. The WM6.5 screenlock also consumes alot of RAM. In addition, there are (and will always be) some memory leaks in WM. Don't ask me why, it just is like that. Therefore you need to use RAMsweeper, cleanRAM or other cleaners every once in a while.
I recommend you to disable the WM6.5 screenlock and use either the old WM or TouchLockPro which is a great piece of software.
I have to agree with the topic.
I've been searching for a good Diamond rom, but can't seem to find one.
I personally don't care about the OS on my phone. 6.1 seems to work well enough.
I do want manilla 2.5 though. It looks better and it's really easy to use with the finger buttons.
Maybe someone could help me out.
I am looking for the following rom:
- Manilla 2.5
- Ability to switch automatic to landscape in; Manilla, contacts and texting windows (don't care about the rest but it would be nice)
- Fast and stable. So for daily use.
- Not to heavy on RAM. I still want to be able to use all my apps.
- CLEAN.
Things I don't care about:
- OS. 6.1 or 6.5 both are welcome
- Playing music.
- Extra apps except for the essentials.
- Enhanced looks. Plain HTC black works fine.
So; clean, fast, stable, RAM friendly and manilla 2.5.
A rom for standard daily usage. Calling, browsing contacts, texting, maybe browsing the web every now and then AND using GPS on SOME occasions.
This is WAY to much to ask for a Diamond rom. But maybe someone could help a guy out.
This one is nice, stable & fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567949