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Start Menu Pop Up

The Start menu pops up as and when it feels like it. It normally happens when writing sms. While writing, the start menu just pops up and it's bloody irritating.
I've tried hard reseting without any additional softwares on at least 4 different ROMs from here & the problem still persists. I'm convinced that it's not a hardware problem cos Karmba 7.2 Non-Touch ROM does not have this problem but the ROM is way to heavy which causes the PDA to slow down.
Is anybodyelse facing this problem? Is there a fix or something to this? Appreciate any help & advice i can get. Thank you.
P/s: I don't get this problem on my TyTN II, Dopod 838 Pro & Touch on custom ROMs

not really ment for the trinity forum is it ?

Rudegar said:
not really ment for the trinity forum is it ?
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Oh sorry....forgot to mention. I'm using the Dopod810.

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Well, there has been a number of posts on this known Trinity weakness.
I also experienced quite an irritating behavior as well some time ago.
Look through the threads, you should find them. Personally, I do have the impression that since I use FTouchFlo, it is far better. However, this only is an impression ... not sure it helps,, but at least you should not feel like "I am the only one with this damned f..... thing" !

same problem
I have the same problem on my phone! specially when writing sms with phonepad and no stylus. You are right. It`s unbelivable annoying. the problem seems to dissapear when you are using the stylus and not flabby fingers..

Me 2 :'(
I am also having this problem.
I've noticed that it only happens when i press lightly on the screen, not when i press hard.I Suspect that it is a fault in the digitizer, and somehow it signals to the device that the upper left corner of the screen is pressed.
My suggestion for a possible solve is to write a little program that prevents the user from clicking on the start menu on the screen, by introducing a "non-click" zone where the start menu is on the today screen.
As i allways use the "windows" button i can always access the start menu. This, i think, will prevent this fault from happening.
My only problem is that i don't know how to program native C.
I have not tested my above mentioned theory, but i would wery much like to. So if there is anyone out there that can do this program, i would be very gratefull.

Scann69,
I would hate to make you nervous, but when I encountered the same problem you are havin it was the start of somethign terrible. My Trinity was back and forth from repair for over 6 months!!!
They replaced the screen, it worked for almost 2 days. They replaced the screen AGAIN but when it came back the 'vibrate' function of my poor Trinity didn't work. They then replaced the mainboard and now things appear to have settled down (but i've only had it back for a couple of weeks now).
My suggestion would be send it in for repair. Good Luck
WC

WangChung said:
Scann69,
I would hate to make you nervous, but when I encountered the same problem you are havin it was the start of somethign terrible. My Trinity was back and forth from repair for over 6 months!!!
They replaced the screen, it worked for almost 2 days. They replaced the screen AGAIN but when it came back the 'vibrate' function of my poor Trinity didn't work. They then replaced the mainboard and now things appear to have settled down (but i've only had it back for a couple of weeks now).
My suggestion would be send it in for repair. Good Luck
WC
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this problem have been there since i bought the phone a year ago. Htc replaced my mainboard around 5 months ago because of some cameraproblems. I think Beebo has a good point about the digitizer. that would surtenly explain why it dont happen to me when i use the stylus. the problem mostly occur when i use my fingers on phonepad while writing sms..

i also got this problem...quite frequent
first, the changed motherboard, nothing solve and still happen quite frequent
second, changed lcd screen, happen less around once a day or 2 days once
i found this problem quite easily by using finger but now even using stylus it also appear....

how u guys solve this problem? got send to service center or just leave it?

Yep this isn't a WM6 issue
Yep it is a Trinity issue
Yep it is a hardware issue, something to do with the LCD screen. Some have said it gets worst if the phone is heated.
You might have seen improvement after installing touchflo because of the increased reaction time to touch.
No I don't know a solution

BeeBo said:
I am also having this problem.
I've noticed that it only happens when i press lightly on the screen, not when i press hard.I Suspect that it is a fault in the digitizer, and somehow it signals to the device that the upper left corner of the screen is pressed.
My suggestion for a possible solve is to write a little program that prevents the user from clicking on the start menu on the screen, by introducing a "non-click" zone where the start menu is on the today screen.
As i allways use the "windows" button i can always access the start menu. This, i think, will prevent this fault from happening.
My only problem is that i don't know how to program native C.
I have not tested my above mentioned theory, but i would wery much like to. So if there is anyone out there that can do this program, i would be very gratefull.
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but this not the way to solve it. this is the trinity's hardware problem. why need us to bear this problem.
what the technician do is change lcd touch screen. it will not solve becoz after a while it will come back. i go to service center until i tired

after monitoring, it still popup at least once a day....
i really don't know how they solve the problem....damn frustrating....

i have this problem too, but only recently.
who gonna be help?

first prob is the start button popping up, next step is that it continually does this and infact will not allow any screen inputs....as in total piece of #$%(ing crap. I have a dopoid d810 in canada , started 2 months into owning the phone , htc will not service it, and pretend like they dont know why this is happening ( there is info all over the net about it, many people think it is the chip that is improperly mounted to the mouther board that controls screen input). AS Dopod has the service contract on this phone htc will not service it for me and of course dopod does not have international warranty. HTC screwed me hard and long.....I have never been so disappointed with a product in my whole life ( even cereal box xray glasses were better than this)

i had this too on my m700, i think it is an issue with the screen mounting, certainly heat and things may well affect it. Possible the casing pushing the top corner of the screen or something.
I had mine replaced by orange.

rjefferis,
what did orange replace for you? touch screen or whole unit pda?

chunga168 said:
Yep this isn't a WM6 issue
Yep it is a Trinity issue
Yep it is a hardware issue, something to do with the LCD screen. Some have said it gets worst if the phone is heated.
You might have seen improvement after installing touchflo because of the increased reaction time to touch.
No I don't know a solution
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Yes, all you said are right.
the trinity, there are two problem:
one is the LCD mounting, if you touch the LCD slightly, it will push the screen to the corner as click start menu. for the people who met the problem once in few days, it is all right.
the second problem is serious, as you said "worse when heated", that is because a resistant near CPU is designed in wrong place. the problem will happen freqently everyday and worse when phone is hot (cuz the NTR resistant). once it happens, it will get worse and worse till the motherboard breakdown.
i know some people they replace the resistant to fix the motherboard by them self, and they write down all the progress. if some one really handy and insist to fix the problem, i am happy to translate the progress in to WWE

that day i asked staff at service center, they said never occur this problem so far
i asked htc staff(my friend), he said don't know got this problem. seem like htc don't know this problem....

Xda Orbit keep freezing ...

Hi all ,
I have been using my UK orbit for about a year with no problem (so far). For the the past two weeks though after a random use of 2 to 5 minutes it freezes! It either stays with what is on screen or returns a white screen. From today also the led is not turning on while charging and it wont turn on !!
I tried re flashing, rebooting, putting back the older ROM but the symptoms happen, no matter what ROM or application is used.
A few days before this started if a remember correct I had bled dry the battery (in flight). But everything was ok for some time.
I would be really glad if someone could help me out, I really like ORBIT and wouldn't like to leave it. Keep up the good work for this magnificent site

I had the exact same problem with my P3300. It's a malfunction in the Motherboard. I've called the dutch helpdesk and because a hard reset didn't do much good the PDA was picked up later that day to be sent to Eurotwice, the repair station in Belgium. I got my phone back 2 weeks later, I started it and it froze again! So I immediatly called HTC Netherlands and again, the P3300 was picked up by UPS that afternoon. The second time I wrote a letter to the repair station and sent it with my phone. In another topic on another website I read that some other phone with the same problem had been fixed by replacing the motherboard. I got my phone back today and it works great! It hasn't crashed today, and I have confidence it won't in the future. So my tip to you and anyone who experiences this problem: Call the HTC helpdesk in your country and ask them to sent your PDA to a repair station. It might take a while but they fix it well! By the way, you have 2 years full garantee so it didn't cost me anything! Great service from HTC!

Touch Screen Response Problems

Hello.
I have some issues with my three day old mobile which I already changed, because my previews Desire which I bought two weeks ago had dead pixel (and this 2nd one has also a green bright pixel... but I don't bother to change it one more time because of this small error - I have to live with it - and it is a little frustrating having brand new but broken hardware).
Now my real issue... from time to time the screens are moving itself and I haven't control anymore. I don't know how to explain it.. but imagine you are dragging your home-screens continuous and in small distances really fast... it flickers... mmmh.
Is my touch screen broken or is it a software problem or.. or.. I really don't know.
I turned the device several times off but it does not really help, when I reboot the problem occurs sometimes again. And if so, I can hardly unlock the screen, because the response is so bad. Then I send it to sleep... try again, sleep, try again... sleep.. forget about it and later it is working again.
It is happening quite often.. 3-4 times this morning and in the afternoon I turned the device off completely. Now I turned it on again, and the problem occured two more times but now it's back to normal again. So ... haha... this is weird, probably I'm not using my HTC Desire right?
Since the problem comes sporadic I don't know how I should reproduce it and present a probably working device as broken to the customer service.
Any ideas? What could be a problem?
And do you have pixel errors on your Desire? I had several devices in the past (mobiles, laptop display, desktop display and so on) but never ever any pixel errors. I didn't even saw any on other devices as well. Now I had them on two HTC's in a row ...

Well,it had happened to my device two times when,after training,I tried to use it with sweaty hands.Probably sweat stayed on the screen causing false touches because the screen is so responsive.Try to reproduce it that way.If it's not that,then most probably you'll have to change to a new one again.And as for the screen problem,however small it may be you are entitled to ask for a new one as it is a factory problem and is inexcusable for a high-end 500 euro phone.

hello again..
I have still my "broken" Desire. Probably I will change it in the next days.
I made a short (****ty) video of frustration today, because it ended up not being able to response a call... (turn off the sound of the youtube-clips )
Then I shortly decided to buy a cheap ZTE Blade, but it turned out, that this device will be even more broken than my HTC Desire, which you see here:
this can't be random... three devices, and all were broken.
simply impressive.

all htc devices I've ever had have been perfect including a desire imo you should return it.
I've had bad luck with other tech before sure its annoying but all companies have dodgy units that make it through qc because they don't test every one just a random sample from each batch
What desire is it a world wide model or is it a branded one with telco software? Imo get the ruu and re flash it could be software rule that out first
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Wow, you have some bad luck! Broken any mirrors recently?
Definitely looks like a hardware fault, but the Desire in your second video looks fine. Is that the broken unit?
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Desire - screen is flickering

Hi guys,
I have a problem, hoping for some advice ^^
I sent my Desire for warranty repair, as the screen has been flickering. I know about the problem with SLCD filckering and it wasn't like that. It's like the whole screen gets bright and dark in high frequency (it's AMOLED). It first appeared like 2 months ago, for half an hour, and then it was back to normal. Then it appeared again 2 days before I sent it in. I've been emailed now, 24 day later, that they could not find the problem and that it's all working fine. I've even sent them a video of the problem. but it doesn't help them, and they'll send it back.
What am I to do? Send it in again as soon as i get it back, or wait another month for the problem to appear again, just to send it back again and to receive the same answer, when there is clearly something wrong? :S
Thanks for your help.
oh, and it looked like that nook color screen flickering.
EDIT: since the device was sent to repair before, to replace the non working camera, is it possible that there could have been some problem with connectors or is this strictly hardware (display) problem?

Could be a problem with anything. Could be the screen, could be the connectors, could be the cables, could be anything.
If the problem is a quick fix problem like a reboot then I don't see the point in asking HTC to do anything. If its a problem that is common, maybe every day then there is a point. If they can't find a problem, they can't fix it. They wont take your word for it unless they can confirm it. Parts cost money and they're not going to throw money away at the expense of customers words, otherwise everyone would be doing it.
Sent from CM7

The thing is that I even recorded while it was happening. And I did it because I knew there was a possibility they would not find nothing wrong with the phone. And it's not a quick fix problem, don't even know what caused it and made it stop (stock rom, factory reset, it was still happening).
Oh well, I guess I'll make another video as a proof and send it in again when the problem returns.
Thanks for the answer ^^

make sure auto brightness is disabled
cant u make them replace the screen somehow

Insureance ftw
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Here, I've sent it in for repair again. By law, they have 45 day to repair it - if they don't, i get a new phone. The thing is, that if they don't find anything wrong with the phone (and they didn't find anything, as the problem appears once in a while), they have another 45 days if I send it in again.
Luckily, my mobile operator acknowledged my videos (can be seen: alenandrasic.com/desire.html) and gave them only 20 days to repair it, since it took them 25 days last time to find nothing.
So basically, I have to wait 15 more days. I guess i'm really unlucky, since i've been withouth my desire for 2.5 months in the 10 that i own it. Ah well, will post how it gets resolved ^^

The DOA thread (did your 2nd(or more) device improved)?

Ok, so I returned my phone still in DOA period.
My problems were the glitching all over the place, and not just once a day, but it kept on getting worse, youtube, camera, browser, status bar, apps, multitasking, scrolling, keyboard, jumping white line in messages,etc...
Mine also was creaking arround the front camera and part of the corner of the screen there too.
My battery was displayed wrong all the time, so I couldn't see the right %.
Yellow bottom of on the screen.
Games were lagy, Tegra 3 and normal like teeter.
1 dead pixel.
Probably forgetting some problems now.
Somethings will be software, but because I(and most of us) don't know what is software I preffered to send it back before the doa period was over. Also some posters stated htv told them to send it back, witch problems same as mine.
Also if this is software for most of the part, than why isn't everybody getting the problems.
So I made this topic so you can tell what the problem was with your first device, and if you allready had your second (or third, etc) and what improved and what stayed the same... So you can we get a better vision on that.

My first phone arrived yesterday and is getting swapped out by a currier tomorrow for what will then be my second device.
The problems I am having is the jumping/bumping at the bottom of the screen; this is very inconsistant but does happen more often than it doesn't. For instance I was using the phone for 40 mins earlier it was happening, then for 10 mins it wasn't, again it happened for 5/6 mins and then didn't happen for around an hour but again its happening as we speak.
I've also had the problem whereby you can't unlock the device by pulling up the ring, and I have to shut down and startup the phone for this to be fixed. This has only happened twice so far; but again should not happen at all.
Lastly I have had the problem that when you lock the device the screen turns back on, even when you only pressed the lock button once.
I think thats everything... I do believe its software problems more than hardware, however as you have said why isn't this happening to everyone if that's the case. I guess you could look at it that maybe it is but they are either living with it or reporting it direct to where they purchased it from; either way they are not posting it on here. Who knows?
Now I do understand bugs are there in just about every phone and to be honest they are normally bugs you can live with until an update; the problem here is that the bugs are completely preventing the use of the device and/or making the use of the device very difficult. No phone should be released with this being the case.
One thing I do know for sure is that its happening to those who got the phone from a network (mines from Vodafone) and those who got it SIM free; in all areas or the world. This means they (Vodafone, Orange, O2 etc...) have not caused these problems so it eliminates any tweaks/software they may have placed onto the device meaning the problems do entirely lie with HTC to resolve. Lets just hope they do; or more importantly lets just hope its a small number of phones that are affected and that our replacements are okay.
I will let you know tomorrow what the second one is like... (sorry for the long post),

How did u notice a dead pixel
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )

Phone turning back on after i pressed power button to lock the screen, got that too. But happens at random, so not always.
I saw a very tiny shiny spot when in a complete dark room, on a black background. Dead pixel i suppose.

Im considering getting it online but not sure what to do if i get a dead pixel
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )

Send mine back because one of the 2 yellow spots didn't go away after 10hrs screen on (5 days) and I had some random restarts.
I don't want a faulty device, some devices will keep giving problems while others have no issues from the start.

Nitin985 said:
Im considering getting it online but not sure what to do if i get a dead pixel
Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )
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You would be able to send it back if you bought it online, just like buying it from a shop. They have to give you the same period of support...
Born Twitchy said:
Send mine back because one of the 2 yellow spots didn't go away after 10hrs screen on (5 days) and I had some random restarts.
I don't want a faulty device, some devices will keep giving problems while others have no issues from the start.
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Have you had the replacement device; how is that getting on?