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http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
Black6spdZ said:
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
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Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!!
interesting
Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)
Dave
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...
As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find
A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.
Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.
CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.
As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.
I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.
This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.
Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!
What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.
I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.
I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.
Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out.
I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.
CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
Yknow what would be sweeet
If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).
a bunch of SYS folders from recent builds
People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
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As I've said here, I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.
As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...
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I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.
19960 build
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?
HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
So if you feel like it, post away. Hopefully if anything, this will serve as a basis for which rom to choose.
Please don't spam the thread with posts agreeing with other users. I didn't intend for this thread to be a discussion. Try not to post based off other posts, and please
DON'T QUOTE ANYONE!
This means if someone says "I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS". Just post AGAIN stating that it is purple, as well as what else you like about it.
Reserved for future use
ROM: CRCs STABLE (v11.2; 17-Jul)
This is a great rom to use. Battery life is excellent, and my phone never hangs / crashes. (hence the stable). I like that it accepts dialer customizations (3G dialer from the kaiser for instance) without making you go through a graphic nightmare trying to get it to work.
I *have* noticed some WIFI issues however... Not being able to connect to networks that I KNOW are open. It will say you are connected, however you won't be able to transfer. This however is only a very rarely encountered issue, and usually at WIFI hotspots in restaurants and hotels. It ALWAYS works on my home network.
Rom seems on par with most when speed is considered. It is not either slow, nor exremely fast. Quick enough to do most any task with less than a 1 second wait.
I would definately recommend this rom for use by anyone who is considering their first upgrade, or anyone who wants a very useable rom with a good basic set of programs and tools.
Thank you for bringing this up
Personally, I would say CRCinAU's roms have been the benchmark for other chefs to 'match' or 'better'
These days abusalza is that chef. Again these are my personal opinion, you really NEED TO FLASH ALL THE ROMS, to find what you like and what you don't.
No one can tell me what I will like and what I won't like, as it is down to preference.
So, in other words, .... this thread is pretty useless
in here is a link to rom benchmarks (great job be veyka) to assist U:
>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419158
Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?
Rom choice is.. very much what you like.
I can tell you from exp, and I have flashed almost every rom here, as im sure many other people can, that its the ONLY way to know what to use.
There isnt a bad rom, just one that isnt right for you.
since joining this community, i have flashed many roms. I have flashed almost every release during that time, it would exceed 100 roms.
now, what i have noticed is that it doesnt matter which rom i chose, i end up putting the applications on it which i like. Some of the roms have these and others do not. so really, find what it is you like, get the cabs for it, and almost all roms are the same.
there is the stability and speed of roms which is different. but with a 400mhz processor, the speed is barely noticeable unless you change the pagepool.
There is one rom that i always return to when i am away for a while, being Berds 4.31 SS
I find there is a huge difference in speed and battery drain between different WM6.1 roms.
I would personally hold up CRC and PDAcorner as the best two out there atm.
(main difference is if you like your rom vanilla or not)
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Hmm hardly a 'consumer' report, as most of them don't donate, may be you should call it 'free loaders report'
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HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
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btw, on that note. WM6 is WM6, whatever device its on, each rom comes with diffrent stuff cooked in..
Same goes for 6.1.
Its also quite easy to tell if the roms your cup of tea from the thread and screenshots, eg, does it look loaded, lite, comes with HTC home ect!
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I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS
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I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
I reccommend
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
Long winded response (sorry)
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Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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well sir, i'll be as much of a help that i can be.
Best regards,
noob chef!
veyka said:
I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Here you go
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Here you go
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thank you sir.
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thank you sir.
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More than welcome
Hi Biggary here, last year, I made my own rom, took less than a hour to make, it was callled Mr Bloaty, and took (with uploading included) Less than a hour - the rom is still being used by a friend today! (although i deleted rapidshare link ages ago) it was jam packed with apps i use everyday...
~~~~~~~~~~~and on to DEC 08~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i want to make roms again, and want a real real easy kitchen to make a rom, Im a noob (sort of) so can anyone help?
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Hi Biggary here, last year, I made my own rom, took less than a hour to make, it was callled Mr Bloaty, and took (with uploading included) Less than a hour - the rom is still being used by a friend today! (although i deleted rapidshare link ages ago) it was jam packed with apps i use everyday...
~~~~~~~~~~~and on to DEC 08~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i want to make roms again, and want a real real easy kitchen to make a rom, Im a noob (sort of) so can anyone help?
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Hi i think the best for a sorta newb like me i don't use it though but i think ROMDonalds it seems nice and easy but it lets you no what is happening try it.
I agree with ngagephone also. ROMDonalds is very easy to use and comes with a pdf on how to make things happen. But it also depends on what your wanting in a kitchen. Both Josh and Miffy's Kitchens offer a more customizable type of ROM, but have a little different learning curve. If you don't mind installing cab files with preconfig instead of burning them in, go with ROMDonalds. If you want it all integrated, go with one of the other 2. You can't go wrong
All i can remember, All i had to do in the kitchen is click on what i wanted adding, did a couple other things and voila...... a .nbh file was created, just downloaded romdonalds, it looks very familiar
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I agree with ngagephone also. ROMDonalds is very easy to use and comes with a pdf on how to make things happen. But it also depends on what your wanting in a kitchen. Both Josh and Miffy's Kitchens offer a more customizable type of ROM, but have a little different learning curve. If you don't mind installing cab files with preconfig instead of burning them in, go with ROMDonalds. If you want it all integrated, go with one of the other 2. You can't go wrong
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Yes thats true but you can easily add OEM apps using ervius package Creator and to make it easy instead of editing the user and default hv files you could add a OEM.XML to your preconfig and stick all OEM reg settings in there that way it saves you editing both files.
I've decided to cook a rom. Cooking is such a silly word for it though (sorry but I mean really...)
Now here are my questions...
I've downloaded the 6.5 Kitchen that Josh has created. I'm a little fuddled (used to nsis and VB) so its a little odd thinking of things in a new way.
I want to get down in the dirt of the OS. I want to be able to change things at the very core, but there really is no guideline for 'what is what'. Its easy enough to include certain apps, and not others, but what about how windows functions? Where is the explanation of that?
Lets get this rom going. I'm sure its gonna be great. I'm used to creating large community based software projects (see http://www.mediaengine.org). I'm sure I can really get a good one going.
Please post with assistance on rom creation. I've googled and searched here, but I haven't found anything about what I want to learn.
You can change settings in the rgu files, pretty much the entire registry.
As for getting in and editing dll's and exe's, that's something I still need to learn.
Dear cookers on XDA,
I am a kinda rookie on the cooking area. And i would love to make my own ROM with my stuff and etc in it. But its pretty hard with minimum info on the internet. I have searched many times on the internet for a good tutorial how to cook your own rom, or how to edit a rom. Only found 1 pretty good tutorial but it wasnt a perfect one with the needed details.
Now my question is, can somebody make a good tutorial how to edit/make/cook a rom?
With like everything in it, like add/remove your apps/cabs change your splash screen etc. I would realy love that!
I think im not the only one who likes this, a good tutorial about cooking!
So i hope that somebody can make one!
Yours,
Ruubs
(Sorry for my bad english)
The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
Thank you,
but i allready used that tutorial, and that one is not the best one, much bugs in it. and i also need a tutorial or instructions how to edit an already cooked rom.
and i also used that 6.5 kitchen, its a nice one but the kitchen issnt ready yet. and i cant edit an already cooked rom with it.
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The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
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not all cooked roms are for edit.
some cookers minimize it so much for performance or ram,
that the roms cant be edit.
and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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...and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
you got a point, but some people like me, just want their own apps and other crap in it, just made for your own.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
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In the Diamond ROM development section is a thread 'noob kitchen'.
It started about someone asking for a light ROM and how to add his own stuff, it ended up me and him discovering how to cook and describing the first steps at how to start and the things to do afterwards.
The short answer:
Get a simple kitchen to start with, bebe's own kitchen on platformrebuilder is a good start (visual-kitchen is complete but can be complex if you just start).
Dump a stock rom with it (bebe has excellent example-videos on his forum) and start playing.
With the new rom-unlocker you can dump more existing roms, but it is VERY important to remember the wishes of the original cook. Don't go posting it around.
If you get into the more 'advanced' stuff like porting os-builds a complex kitchen with more tools ready like ervius visual-kitchen is good.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
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no problem.
if i could make a people happy with a rom that was generated by deleting files/entries here and there or putting files/entries here and there by respecting the syntax, that was finding out by really roots, than is o.k. for me.
if we look back than we have to say that we all marked roms with our names.
only some people, not much, are the really cookers (roots). the most of them stopped their works and change it back to their life (study finished, wife comes back from hospital, but not alone, a small think, i think it called baby
we need people like you describe ... cause changing my name to his name means that their spend time to learn/understand structure and syntax. some new ideas can grown up.
the new kind of kitchens can do seperate languages, xips, roms, syss and oems by using "grafical interface". but when we do a snapshot of this kitchens, you get a better dos-optic by using more mouse for adding/deleting completly folders. no details. enough good for beginners, but a step back for not-beginners. i think, its time to say, that kitchens couldn't be a one-man-project, lets help you and seperate the works. with deep-detail-love.
for beginners i say "respect the search-functions, dont use a specified devicename like diamond touch blablabla. but use htc as devicename for more tips. the cook-rules/syntax are nearly the same for all htc's"
for no-beginners with strong answers i want to say "if you angry to reading a question now for 100 times ... nobody kills you, if you NOT answer!!!"