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http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
Black6spdZ said:
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
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Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!!
interesting
Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)
Dave
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...
As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find
A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.
Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.
CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.
As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.
I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.
This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.
Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!
What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.
I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.
I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.
Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out.
I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.
CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
Yknow what would be sweeet
If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).
a bunch of SYS folders from recent builds
People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
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As I've said here, I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.
As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...
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I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.
19960 build
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
dan1967 said:
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?
Hi guys at the risk of appearing REALLY dim witted, i am looking for a WM6 upgrade for my M3100.
I have read Mr Vanx Upgrade site, done the olivpro..but now just looking for the rom upgrade.
Anyone know where i can download it from?
Thanks in advance
just keep looking around..
u'll find many rom here..
Hey thanks for the response.
Lol i have..and i am quite new to this..so EXTREMLY confused.
Is their a reccomended WM6 Rom?
I want to most standard one, prefrebly with MSN Messnger on it lol
Hello,
I can assure you you will find only very nice roms on the forum. As soon as you have HardSPL installed, it's ok. Check mainly the first page of this section, there will be the latest roms. I personnaly use PDACorner, it's quite simple but complete and good ROM, but Messenger is not already installed. You can find a cab file on the wiki I think.
In all ways, you have to try by yourself, nobody has an answer for your use of your phone. But don't worry you're here in a self place... at your own risk as they said. Happy flashing.
Toni
HI toni thanks for your response.
I installed Hard SPL yesterday then was itching to install a rom, but their are so many of them...and to be honest i dont understand the difference between them lol.
I might try your PDA corner first lol.
Once i get into the whole rom thing and understand what they actually are, i might try and make a one stop link for people to add and pick and choose lol.
The thing is they are a little bit the same. I barely modify anything in a rom I install (just adding my SNES emulator and japanese I/O), so usually my choice on rom rely on the actual little differences in contents, like the tweak the chief included. And by the way in the last PDACorner, there is an annoying tweak (some program wich replace the bottom bar when you click on it), there is a little registry change to do, and now it's perfect for me! So as I said, just try and find the one which contains what you think is useful for you.
As was stated before, the rom you choose is YOUR choice. Asking whats good is a pointless exercise as there will be a heap of people telling you what rom they think is best. What they want and need may be completely different from what you want and need.
Best advice, read the 1st page, it tells you what apps are included and gives you an idea on whats in the rom. Then read the last few pages. This will tell you what problems people have been having and, maybe, how to fix it. But in the end it depends on what you want in your rom...
Cheers...
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
43 views and NOT EVEN 1 CAN ANSWER????!!!!!!!
DefJamz said:
i need to know from those expert chefs. is it better to cook programs via OEM or CAB? does having more OEMs causes the rom to lag? other than pagepool, how do you boost the speed of a rom? and does having a pagepool of more than 32Mb causes some stability issue?
reason im asking is because im trying to customise a custom rom. manila-wise, it works well, except... i have no idea why my photo-video album from the manila lags for a very very very long time before i can select different folders.
i hope to get some answers cos it's kinda difficult getting straight answers around here. yes i know google, forum search etc etc. which i already did. im not asking to be spoonfed. im asking to be taught how to fish so i can fish on my own. bit by bit.
btw, i own a gsm touch diamond. i hope to get some reply.
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It's better to cook using oem as a cab takes more space i.e space for the cab then space for the installed version so can take nearly double the space.
There should be no speed differences.
Pagepool of 32Mb is going to lead to very little memory left for programs to run in
P.S don't expect somebody to answer your question within 1 day, It's only just over 8 hours and you post a comment like that.
OEM is better, but if you delete the CABs after the installation there won't be wasted disk space... it's equal!
thanx shaks. appreciate the answer. does official rom has some sort of 'build' as the custom ones have? what are rgu and dsm and why does bepe tools delete them when they are necessary in rom building?
not equal!!!!
cabs will install after first boot. and than resarts.
sometime its needed read by 100 persons for get an answer.
or you want get answers like "google your question", "search your question"
or the best "i dont know .."
but excuise me, if you have donate million of millions for searchable putah's in madagarkaaaaar...
@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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@DefJamz: I usually ignore these kind of posts, but yours was blatantly over the edge.
Drop the attitude, and you might expect an answer.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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And the manner of the pm's he sent me weren't particulary appreciated - Basically expecting me to share my kitchen and berating chefs who lock their roms/don't share which is my wish wether I want to or not and complaining there aren't any guides for cooking when there are plenty including a very good video one.
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Hmm, maybe he had a bad day (which doesn't justiy his actions); I checked his other posts and they were quite normal.
Other than that, the info he was asking was in the stickies, which shows that he was expecting us to spoonfeed him, instead of reading up.
i do NOT need to be spoonfed. i read through even looked up wiki mind you. but sifting through pages after pages looking for answers doesnt help. i ONLY ask as a last resort. i have learnt to "arghh go to hell with it" if chefs locked their rom. it's just like Microsoft. take it or leave it. i know how to edit a custom/official rom. BUUUUUT, i started out with the old version. im learning how to use ervius kitchen and still am. ROM development is supposed to be open and shared. when mondilv decided to leave bcos chefs were locking their rom yet still asked for donations in their sig, i understood & agreed completely. locking a rom only serves to justify "it's mine and there's nothing you can do to try and hack my hack. only i have the key. if there's bugs, i can try to rectify it bcos you're too dumb to create something just like mine" it's stingy dont you think so? it's NOT hacking a hack. it's improving it. so learners like myself can compare how custom roms work. why does this work on this but not that? etc etc..
all of us start somewhere. the experts included. the difference is how well we can read/translate codes. i for one, learn by comparing. and there's nothing to compare if roms are locked.
so thank you.
Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
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Lets keep us to the thread instead, also you DefJamz.
What you are asking about, can be found here.
Poor community spirit among XDA cooks
[Q] Locked roms, unable to dump, do the chefs hide something?
Ontopic I would say that it depends on what you cook into it. If you make a .cab for manila, I would say it's slower than when it's cooked in the rom by default.
Cabs are good for minor changes, like messenger updated, album update. Small things, so you don't have to re-flash everytime u find a bug.
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i agree. but some folks crazy like myself, wishes to remove/add some stuff via oem. and yeah, i have been reflashing hundreds of times due to me NOT being happy that something small didnt turn out correctly as how i want it to be. imagine this, i rather extract the contents of a cab (manilas or those files that writes themselves into /windows) and paste. why? bcos i hate seeing programs building up into the 'remove program' feature. why? bcos all that i installed in my own modified custom rom is what i need. which is why i prefer oem. but now it's extremely rare to find one that isnt locked. i hate audio/images/samples/programs that i know i wont use at all. i rather remove them and save the extra valuable space for other programs.
im still a very long way from being a complete chef. but sadly, locked custom rom has hindered my progress and now i have to just like everyone else, swallow the pill and deal with it.
edit: and i thought i was the only one grumbling abt locked roms.
dont forget one thing about your grrrrr'ring of locked roms:
you cant get any better reason to start cooking and being a master chef as locked-roms-reason.
i startet with downlading all roms for my device (sometimes for other=bricked)
and hope, that the next time it will exist a combine of bepe and diamond-project. at least, it would not get an equal combine roms and i have to start again with cooking (after long break becauce bricking) roms. the best start could be recooking and deleting not needed/wanted applications. but both cookers locked there roms. o.k. ... ? !!!
now i am in a position to cook that what i really want ... not really,
from 100% i give me 95% of really want and the rest 5% are random.
the most problem is getting new stuff or stable versions of existing stuff.
and here come the other cooker or members with power of interesting to upload for volks.
forgot the locked cookers/chefs, they have do their really good things long time ago and they lost a little bit the spirit of this forum.
i can understand, that some chefs/masters dont give for 546 times the same answer of a question two thread before and five threads before and ...
and one thing helps me really good, other xda-forums with using google-translator. this is the mother of xda-forums, but dont forget uncle, brother, sister and very good looking cuisine ...
have questions. than ask. sometime have wait and sometime have nerv and nerv and nerv again (sorrry, nerv is german, dont know english word and google-translator is on an other tab ..
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From my experience, there are can be some speed differences.
An OEM with modules (can be UPXed) files will be faster, and take up less room than an exe installed by a cab. And it'll launch faster.
Dear cookers on XDA,
I am a kinda rookie on the cooking area. And i would love to make my own ROM with my stuff and etc in it. But its pretty hard with minimum info on the internet. I have searched many times on the internet for a good tutorial how to cook your own rom, or how to edit a rom. Only found 1 pretty good tutorial but it wasnt a perfect one with the needed details.
Now my question is, can somebody make a good tutorial how to edit/make/cook a rom?
With like everything in it, like add/remove your apps/cabs change your splash screen etc. I would realy love that!
I think im not the only one who likes this, a good tutorial about cooking!
So i hope that somebody can make one!
Yours,
Ruubs
(Sorry for my bad english)
The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
Thank you,
but i allready used that tutorial, and that one is not the best one, much bugs in it. and i also need a tutorial or instructions how to edit an already cooked rom.
and i also used that 6.5 kitchen, its a nice one but the kitchen issnt ready yet. and i cant edit an already cooked rom with it.
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The Tutorials exist in this very thread. A simple search would allow you to see them.
Here is one for 6.1.
For 6.5, not really a tutorial but it can get you started HERE
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not all cooked roms are for edit.
some cookers minimize it so much for performance or ram,
that the roms cant be edit.
and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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...and some cookers dont want that other people edits .... why? dont know.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
you got a point, but some people like me, just want their own apps and other crap in it, just made for your own.
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Would you like your work to be ripped off, retagged so someody can pass it as their own?
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In the Diamond ROM development section is a thread 'noob kitchen'.
It started about someone asking for a light ROM and how to add his own stuff, it ended up me and him discovering how to cook and describing the first steps at how to start and the things to do afterwards.
The short answer:
Get a simple kitchen to start with, bebe's own kitchen on platformrebuilder is a good start (visual-kitchen is complete but can be complex if you just start).
Dump a stock rom with it (bebe has excellent example-videos on his forum) and start playing.
With the new rom-unlocker you can dump more existing roms, but it is VERY important to remember the wishes of the original cook. Don't go posting it around.
If you get into the more 'advanced' stuff like porting os-builds a complex kitchen with more tools ready like ervius visual-kitchen is good.
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no problem.
if i could make a people happy with a rom that was generated by deleting files/entries here and there or putting files/entries here and there by respecting the syntax, that was finding out by really roots, than is o.k. for me.
if we look back than we have to say that we all marked roms with our names.
only some people, not much, are the really cookers (roots). the most of them stopped their works and change it back to their life (study finished, wife comes back from hospital, but not alone, a small think, i think it called baby
we need people like you describe ... cause changing my name to his name means that their spend time to learn/understand structure and syntax. some new ideas can grown up.
the new kind of kitchens can do seperate languages, xips, roms, syss and oems by using "grafical interface". but when we do a snapshot of this kitchens, you get a better dos-optic by using more mouse for adding/deleting completly folders. no details. enough good for beginners, but a step back for not-beginners. i think, its time to say, that kitchens couldn't be a one-man-project, lets help you and seperate the works. with deep-detail-love.
for beginners i say "respect the search-functions, dont use a specified devicename like diamond touch blablabla. but use htc as devicename for more tips. the cook-rules/syntax are nearly the same for all htc's"
for no-beginners with strong answers i want to say "if you angry to reading a question now for 100 times ... nobody kills you, if you NOT answer!!!"
Hi, as the title suggests. I'm overwhelmed with all the choices and would like to know where to search/start if I would want to fully customize my Touch HD, I've downloaded the manilla editor so far, and i see a few pages full of icons, themes, clocks etc. new manilla/old manilla, which I'm actually unsure about. I'm currently using the latest official HTC EU Blackstone rom, and am not sure weather it is worthwile upgrading it to something better, any suggestions ?, stabilty is what would be the deciding factor, or do I just just customize the existing 6.1 operating system with pimped out clocks /menus and themes ?, I'd like to be able to open calender and other WM menus without it looking like I'm stepping back in time as far as page layout and presentation, do I need a custom rom for this or is this just done with my existing rom, with a cab file ?. Oh, and is there any chance of me bricking the phone with messing around with these themes or is that just with reflashing the rom ?. I realise that some of these questions may seem obvious though, I'm a total noob at this, not stupid just a first timer. Any help would be much appreciated !!, Thanks in advance !!, Nick.
first, let me say welcome to the forms. like you, we were once in your shoes. my response is probably not what you want to hear, but i will give my opinion/suggestion anyway (thanks for reading).
my suggestion is to educate yourself on the common terms used in the forums (e.g., Manila, CFC, ROM, bootloader), browse/read the links in my signature, read the threads that will help you achieve your goals, read the stickies, ROM threads, etc. the info is there and it will take a while to absorb and understand. it's a bit unrealistic to think that we'll guide you through an entire process via posts to your help request thread. if you're willing to do the homework it will pay benefits (e.g., you'll be able to pimp/customize your device to your desire)!
since you have to start somewhere, pick a feature you want to learn/customize, read the stickies, understand the methods and tools (the first post of each tool thread contains reasonably good instructions), try it, once you've successfully completed the task move to the next subject (e.g., create manila backgrounds & icons and then move to flashing your device). if you run into problems ask for help in an appropriate thread/sticky and you'll likely get a faster response/answer.
in my opinion (and i'm not implying this is your perspective) to do the things you want to do can be overwhelming if you want to do it right now and quick. this my friend is a sure way to get yourself in trouble. if you're patient, you'll get there. members will help where they can.
you should also know that the moderators are trying to reign in the "help me/what's the best ROM/what's the best theme/how do i flash my device" threads that occur on a daily basis. so don't be disappointed if your thread is closed.
good luck and i hope you have fun along the way!
naa77 said:
Hi, as the title suggests. I'm overwhelmed with all the choices and would like to know where to search/start if I would want to fully customize my Touch HD, I've downloaded the manilla editor so far, and i see a few pages full of icons, themes, clocks etc. new manilla/old manilla, which I'm actually unsure about. I'm currently using the latest official HTC EU Blackstone rom, and am not sure weather it is worthwile upgrading it to something better, any suggestions ?, stabilty is what would be the deciding factor, or do I just just customize the existing 6.1 operating system with pimped out clocks /menus and themes ?, I'd like to be able to open calender and other WM menus without it looking like I'm stepping back in time as far as page layout and presentation, do I need a custom rom for this or is this just done with my existing rom, with a cab file ?. Oh, and is there any chance of me bricking the phone with messing around with these themes or is that just with reflashing the rom ?. I realise that some of these questions may seem obvious though, I'm a total noob at this, not stupid just a first timer. Any help would be much appreciated !!, Thanks in advance !!, Nick.
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The first limiting/deciding factor on what and how much you can "pimp" your phone, is the rom you are using. You need to check which version you have (if stock it should be wm6.1 and then you also need to know what manila version you have.) To get your manila version, go to the Settings Tab in your manila and at the bottom under About it should show you (again on stock it may only be 1.xx)
You may want to start out with a few simple tweaks, such as adding taskbars and slider icons and a few wallpapers and clocks (most of which you can do via cabs available (these are then uninstallable). There are also some complete themes you can apply (even to stock) Dusk being one of them.
Taking a different slant, Id' probably spend a week flashing lots of different ROMs, to experience what's possible visually/program-wise. Try some 6.1s, some 6.5s, some Manilla 2.1s/2.5s/2.6(soon!) to see which types you favour, and many of the ROMs come with their own backgrounds/taskbars etc. etc.
You might find one that, with a little tweaking, is exactly what you want, or at least you might get some ideas for your own creation.
Good luck!
Hey Thanks !! , just needed a lil steering in the right direction. Will check out the links and have a go, (was just unsure about weather to go down the flash rom path first or change theme or touch flo first). I realised that there was a chance moderators could od deleted post but took the chance