I have Skype runing fine on my PDA2K using WIFI however it doesn't seem to work at all well when I have only a GPRS connection.
I have a Vodafone SE V800 3G/UTMS phone and had 3G data working with an IPAQ 5550 although didn't get a chance to try it with Skype before getting my PDA2K.
Unfortunately the dialup networking client option that was in the bluetooth manager on the IPAQ appears to be missing on the PDA2K. Somebody has done this before on a XDA II see http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58&PN=1
however it looks like it is with an old version of the MS BT stack which I cannot load on to my device.
ROM ver: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM date: 10/22/04
Radio Ver: 1.06.00
Protocol ver: 1337.38
ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
Using broadcom BT-PPC/PE version 1.0.0 Build 3500
Any ideas.
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Which GPRS service offering are you using? If you are using the bulk MediaNet from Cingular then I suspect if won't work. That GPRS connection is designed to support WAP and email only, so it only allows the use of certain ports. I don't know which ports SKYPE uses, but I don't think it's limited to Port 80.
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
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It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
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The PDA2K is a 2.5G device - so 3G will not be possible through it.
Are you able to connect to other non-web services via your GPRS connection such as email or msn or the likes? I know with O2 you have an O2 Active connection for web/wap and Mobile Internet for everything else.
You could try to get a freeware telnet client and telnet to the skype server on port 80 to see if it can resolve and reach it - this is one way to prove if your connection will allow it.
Both O2 2.5G (PDA2k) and my Vodafone 3G connections (v800) work no problem. I have a connection from my PDA2K to my 3G phone using the 3G modem in the V800 phone across the infrared connection and Skype connects and works. I however want to use Bluetooth rather than infrared as I have to hold my v800 phone right opposite the infrared port on my PDA2K for it all to work. I can't however find a way to create a bluetooth dial up networking connection to my V800 on the PDA2K. On my IPAQ 5550 I had a Bluetooth dial-up connection to the same phone and it worked fine on 3G. :roll:
they troubleshooted that problem at some time (Bt dial up) of our BT
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GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
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GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
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I was talking on skype over GPRS yesterday. Worked flawlessly. No delay on voice and no cutting of voice.
True, with the wrong GPRS plan you run up a cost, but otherwise it works fine.
3G's major flaw is the bandwidth limitation per AP. At 2mbit it just doesn't work well in populated areas. Besides, most 3G operators frown upon VoIP and file transfers over their network, hence trying to block it. Skype is hard to block since it cleverly looks for open ports, however, that causes voice cutouts and delays.
Hah! Try T-Mobile GPRS lmao. There is no way you can use SKYPE with TMO in US. NO WAY! If someone says you can there are full of sh.. I have a PDA2K and a XDA IIs. I tested them both with GPRS and it sounds like shi.. The only way SKYPE will work with no problems is with WIFI.
Vodafone 3G here in the UK maximum upload speed is 64kbps which IMHO should be enough for SKYPE latency could be a problem though. Unfortunately no futher forward in getting my PDA2K to dial up to 3G phone using Bluetooth. Does anybody know of a cradle that can hold the PDA2K and V800 so that the infrared ports face each other :lol:
Buying an xda2s and will join soon
You might look a bit like dom jollie when walking down the street though LOL. I use a voip and sip client on my 5550 and use this by the multitude of wifi access points around London.I have a voip pbx back at the office that i connect to and make calls from(out to the real world not to just other skype users) I have tried skype over GPRS 3G and wifi and found because of the limited bandwidth it worked in lumps of seconds at a time but was not consistant enough to be able to hold a conversation for longer than a couple of seconds (via gprs - Voda uk) and 3Gwork slightly smoother but still not as consistant as on wifi.This i can only put down to congestion on the networks.. Anyway i suppose i ambiased as i have access to pbx voip remotely..Another cheap way to make calls..LOL :lol:
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Does anybody tryed VPN client for HTC3300, supporting Windows Mobile 5.0 and Nortel Contivity switch?
I have tried several solutions, incl. Bluefire VPN, AnthaVPN, ApaniVPN, NCP client - but could not get satisfactory result - some of them doesn't work at all, some of them couldn't establish connection or run on Windows Mobile 2003
Some experience with Bluefire VPN:
I have installed trial, it works on WiFi connection, but doesn't work on cellular (GSM/GPRS). An error -56 appears (no physical connection is present) although device connects to GPRS successfully and I could browse Internet
Could anybody advice?
Pavel
My experience
I had to set up such a connection to my company VPN. Ok, I wasn't working on HTC p3300 but I was in the same condition for days. At last, I discovered that the provider was masking off the VPN frames. I had to buy another service and I had to connect to another "access point". (I don't remember how it is called exactly in GPRS). From then on I could either navigate internet or use vpn, but they are mutually exclusive for the provider policy. "we did it for security purposes..." they said. The problem is that one technician on 100 knows it. The compant was Vodafone ITALY. So I suggest you have a check with your provider. Maybe there's nothing wrong in your configuration.
Bluefire VPN is currently not compatible with WM5 AKU3. It works on devices wiht AKU2 and below. This has something to do with the way AKU3 names the GPRS data connection. It is different than previous versions.
Bluefire is aware of the issue and said they will have this corrected in the next release, due anytime now. I am running a pre-release build that the sent me and can confirm that it works with GPRS. The problem is this build breaks wifi on the device.
Hi,
Now updated to Activsync 4.5 on my laptop - when I connect the phone via USB it immediately makes a connection to O2 GPRS which obviously I do not want as their data rates are high.
Shall I just install and use the program thats been reported here to disable the auto GPRS connectivity.
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
Gavin
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I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
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Now that would just lose them money from the people who don't know any better.
A little off subject here - I went with T-Mobile "web n walk" with my calling plan. Unlimited GPRS usage.
What b******t
So are you sugesting he needs to get a head to cure a headache ?
Obviously NOT, unless of course you work for T-Mobile.
I would suggest you check the options on the ActiveSync software to disable the posibility of syncing over the internet, or perhaps as you rightly found, simply try the software to disable GPRS download.
@Longhair - People get in this forum to seek others opinions and not to be taken a mickey off!
Just a quick question, has anyone gotten the inbuilt "Internet Calling" WM SIP client working on the TP2?
I've been reading all of the threads that I can find on this site to do with SIP, VoIP etc... and trying to get the InternetCalling app working on my TP2. I'm currently running Sergio's Cell Pro V11 ROM, but I've also tried it on the NRG Phoenix ROMs.
It seems that no matter what VoIP setup cab I use to install the client and it's constituent parts, no matter what registry settings I alter, and no matter what SIP provider I try, it always ends up at "No Service" after "Searching".
I just wondered if anyone had experience of getting it to work, either over Wifi, or over 3G?
I've also investigated whether the problem is that Vodafone UK block SIP traffic on their network, but I've not come across anything to say if they do conclusively one way or another?
I am getting the same problem, I think I am not using the right SIP server. On one of the tutorials it tells me to use my SIP server. I am with Telus but I don't know what the sip server is.
Same here. I could not get internal SIP working.
And fring is a resource hog. There is another software (talkonaut), but I don't have enough experience on that one.
I have the latest Froyo6 build on my Froyo TP2 Rhod_100 UK
I have been trying to set up the VPN, but I can not get it working. Does anyone know why and how I can sort this out please?
PS. I also tried to run a VoIP (SIP) client (3CX) on the machine, but that too does not work.
My airtime provider is Vodafone UK and they have assured me that both are enabled on my account at a princely sum of £15 per month! Needless to say at that cost I am dead keen to make this work.
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I have the latest Froyo6 build on my Froyo TP2 Rhod_100 UK
I have been trying to set up the VPN, but I can not get it working. Does anyone know why and how I can sort this out please?
PS. I also tried to run a VoIP (SIP) client (3CX) on the machine, but that too does not work.
My airtime provider is Vodafone UK and they have assured me that both are enabled on my account at a princely sum of £15 per month! Needless to say at that cost I am dead keen to make this work.
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Can you get either to work on wifi?
I know there were some Chinese users trying to get the VPN to work, and couldn't.
I haven't tried, as I have no use for a VPN on my phone lol.
Also, I have known people to get SIP working, but it wasn't so great from what I heard...
Sorry I was not getting alerts and the thread was not showing up in my subs....
If I use WiFi then I am at home and do not need the VPN, but the SIP Phone DOES work and very well.
If I use the WM as a gateway for my laptop, then the laptop can run a VPN and SIP Phone via the phone. If that makes sense to you. Thus the Router running the VPN is working and the config works, and the mobile operator has set up the service. So this is just the phone settings - I believe.
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Sorry I was not getting alerts and the thread was not showing up in my subs....
If I use WiFi then I am at home and do not need the VPN, but the SIP Phone DOES work and very well.
If I use the WM as a gateway for my laptop, then the laptop can run a VPN and SIP Phone via the phone. If that makes sense to you. Thus the Router running the VPN is working and the config works, and the mobile operator has set up the service. So this is just the phone settings - I believe.
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If I had a VPN I could connect to I would test it out...
Maybe its a misconfiguration in Android? broken driver or config?
I do not know. It tells me nothing. The settings are as per the router config. How do I find out what is incorrect/broken etc...?
Can you give as many details as possible on the type of VPN I'm trying to connect to?
It's probably not working because none of the devs use that function - and can't debug it without trying to reproduce your setup.
I might play with it a little as it would potentially let me remotely schedule MythTV recordings safely, but it would be pretty low-pri for me.
I am using at this stage a simple PPTP setup for now. The Android settings are minimal - username and PW, and that is it.
But my laptop, which works has more settings o configure. I.e. MSCHAP and MSCHAPv2
Point to point MPPE
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Does this help
OK, sometime in the next week or two I'll try to get PPTP up and running using similar parameters. I've been meaning to do it in general (not phone-related) for other reasons anyway - but it's been a low priority for a long time.
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OK, sometime in the next week or two I'll try to get PPTP up and running using similar parameters. I've been meaning to do it in general (not phone-related) for other reasons anyway - but it's been a low priority for a long time.
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Why not OpenVPN? Seems like it would be easier/more standards-compliant that a craptacular PPTP VPN .
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Why not OpenVPN? Seems like it would be easier/more standards-compliant that a craptacular PPTP VPN .
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I'll look into what VPN options Android supports - although for the OP, he may have specific reasons forcing PPTP.
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Why not OpenVPN? Seems like it would be easier/more standards-compliant that a craptacular PPTP VPN .
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Because I am working with Draytek, my router. Vendor to set up the VPN and this was the. First config as it was the simplest. Seems everything else works, just. Not the. Phone. The phone too has PPTP as a standard setting.
Eh, I prefer to avoid PPTP like the plague if I have any choice. Most companies don't provide a choice, so I figured that's why you were locked in.
If you do have a choice, I would try something different. That's just me tho, I'd prefer open to closed any day if I had the choice .
Just a side note - the built-in Android VPN support uses pppd. The ril currently uses "killall pppd" to disable mobile data. If you're using both at once, then this will kill the VPN too. This is a stupid flaw in the current ril code, which is fixed in the "initpppd" branch of my ril repo. (But the initpppd branch depends on a number of rootfs fixes before it is usable, and stinebd has not merged any of it yet.)
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Just a side note - the built-in Android VPN support uses pppd. The ril currently uses "killall pppd" to disable mobile data. If you're using both at once, then this will kill the VPN too. This is a stupid flaw in the current ril code, which is fixed in the "initpppd" branch of my ril repo. (But the initpppd branch depends on a number of rootfs fixes before it is usable, and stinebd has not merged any of it yet.)
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Thanks for the reminder of that, I remember the discussions on the dev list.
I'm going to shelve poking at the VPN stuff until the RIL overhaul stabilizes and gets mainlined in this case.
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I'll look into what VPN options Android supports - although for the OP, he may have specific reasons forcing PPTP.
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OK, please excuse slowness of response. As arrghh knows from another thread I am in transit across Europe. I reached my destination, Italy and have spent the past few days getting internet access *broadband virtually does not exist here unless you are in a City, so I have to use a very slow mobile broadband).
I am not a techie, but I am a willing player with some knowledge - dangerous, I know. I have been assisted by the manufacturer of my Router, a Draytek 2820 to set up a VPN. We may make it a more sophisticated VPN later, but pptp is the easiest. I have it working on all laptops and PCs, including this old banger here in Italy. What I can NOT do, is get it working on the phone. I think it is communicating with the router, but it is not getting through.
PS the PCs and Laptops are all Linux - Ubuntu 10.10
Hope this helps
I'm one of those Chinese who tried using VPNs on my Raphael, but failed of course. Actually, neither on WM, nor on Android, neither via pptp, nor via l2tp over ipsec. What I wanna remind is VPN on most Android roms on hd2 works fine, but some roms also cannot support vpn.
If you have enough time, I don't know how to pray for, would you please explore l2tp over ipsec? Because in many cities in China, pptp is also blocked by ISP. And I can provide a test account if anyone needs it.
Btw, I believe vpn is necessary when connecting a public wifi
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One more report, vpn in pptp could not work..
At this point - I'm going to hold off on poking at this until highlandsun's new RIL settles out and is officially committed. Some of the dev traffic correspondence indicates that the way we currently handle PPP is incompatible with VPNs. His new ril + rootfs combo that changes the pppd control architecture MIGHT solve some of the PPTP issues, I haven't tried them yet.
See it.
May your works come out soon~