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Fellow xda people...
I'm a ms messenger addict, well I like it anyway and I've been looking forward to using it on my vario over uk T-mobile web'n'walk...I'm running black 2.5 so now I have the "windows live" thing on my today screen and I'm signed in...
thing is, seems to work...but i CANT STAND the way it insists on putting all my MSN contacts into my contact list! Does this annoy anyone else? Anyone found any clever work arounds?
Typical of microsoft trying to integrate an app and take over the whole machine - horrible?
cheers
bb
its so annoying...almost makes me want to use a different messenger client?
using black 2.0. cannot sign windows live from yesterday until now. it said no internet connectivity but i am connected with gprs and also wifi. can surf net also. it the mobile server different from the desktop?
I'm talking about the contacts in particular....
anyone else use messenger - windows live....polluting my contacts !
I had the same problem when I first used the live messenger beta a few months back. The final version does have the "sync contacts" optionality but as you say it still syncs them and creates duplicates and rubbish!
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.
unwired4 said:
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.
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That seems to work the best for me, I don't have to many contact and it wasnt that hard for me to delete them all and put them back in again - when you do this it asks what sort of contact you want - I think MS should have included a wizard that goes through your contacts when you first install them asking if you want Outlook, Contacts List and/or Messenger for each contact.
Another problem I found was everytime it synced from phone to computer, it would change my Messenger contacts, I found that if you edit the contact in Windows Messenger and make sure the name info is the same as what is one the phone has stored, it solves this problem, my contacts sync OK now.
I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...
Someone posted a workaround in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1236933&postcount=22
Don't know if it's working since I didn't have time to install Live Messenger and try it out. Can someone try it?
My Workaround ...
Yeah,
I had the exact same problem. And i have HEAPS of contacts both messenger and outlook ... and of course ... i'm ridiculously anal about having everything exactly perfect ... so i fixed my contacts and reinstalled my phone ... hah
What i found worked for me, was before syncing the first time, make sure that you have outlook contacts corresponding to the email addresses of your messenger contacts. (ie: if windows live messenger sees you have an outlook contact with the same email address, it will just attach the msn display pic etc to that contact.
- Phixx
cheers for this...infuriating !
I have now taken the route one approach...deleted all the daft MS Messenger contacts and removed Windows Live from my today screen (I would delete it if I could)....Hope I never see it again!
The best way to deal with it is to make sure all of your contacts in MS Live have contact entries in Outlook. It sucks, but once you have all of your contacts sync'd up, it's pretty cool: you can see people's online status anywhere you see their contact info on the phone.
BTW; no matter what route you take, you MUST back up your Live contacts and your Outlook contacts on your PC. Seriously. Do it now. I made the mistake of not doing that, and during one of my many reloads, I somehow managed to wipe out my entire Outlook contacts list *and* my Windows Live contact list. It was not a fun day restoring that.
Go to Contacts->Save instant messenging contacts in Windows Live on your PC.
yeah, but i don't want my instant messenger stuff anywhere near my contacts...to me it's a separate app! (or it should be) MS trying to be too clever by half.
What would be nice is if it put the messenger emails in contacts under "emails" Ie personal / business and email catogries.
It really is quite annoying when sifting through the contact list to find a phone number and having to sift through 100's of mail addresses too.
Of course I do try to use the smart dialing but they still come up.
Just having to do these work arounds every reinstall / HR e.t.c is tedious at best.
LeoBadhan said:
I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...
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I want to do the same thing, only I can't find the install for pocket MSN, the only one I could find was on the MS site where you have to pay for it.. it came with my TyTN so I don't want to pay MS another €15 for it!
Can you please provide me the install file? whether it is in PM or in the thread
Thanks alot man
I quite like the way it works.. It's a little bit annoying if you have contacts who have really messed up their details online so that it can't link them to a phone contact, but other than that I really like it.
It would be nice if there was an advanced sync option where you could somehow pair orphan people on MSN to people in contacts on the phone so that it was aware they were the same person.. but I'm not gonna complain too much.
or just give you an option to turn it off.
I'm having an absolute nightmare with this!
I really like the idea in concept and want it to work.
I deleted the contacts it added to my phone adress book cos it looked messy not realising that when I sync'd with my PC it would delete them all (85) from messenger!
So I started re adding my msn contacts being careful to also have a corresponding Outlook contact and all was going well. I was getting them linked up nicely. Now all of a sudden, they've all gone again from my MSN on my PC!
I want this feature to work, I don't simply want to turn it off as some of you have done. How should I go about this?
Yes, me too.. There are nice features in Live messenger for WM, like showing display picture, voiceclip, sending files, pictures, etc, but this contacts problem is so darn annoying! I wish some wizzguy could look into a hack or solution
Greetz.
HTC Sync upgrade for HTC Magic, Hero &Tattoo "http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=3&dl_id=852"
it is at HTC site, but the Android rom is not broadcasting its USB id from cable, Can someone port it from Hero to TT2. So that we can Sync Outlook properly.
Sync client need to know it is exist.
Regards
Tunc
It should be added to "NOT WORKING IN THIS BUILD:" as part of the build route....
Thanks to all developers making things work here.
Tunc
Okay.
One hour to install this stupid software.
And it's still not done.
Seriously, how can someone use this damn windows os ?!?
If you are talking about HTC Sync software. Your PC may be overloaded restart pc and reinstall software it should not take more that 5 -10 minutes.
Regards
i think there are much better ways as using this software? how about a tool to sync your outlook contacts with gmail and gmail with your android?
think this works very well.
there is a tool its called once android finishes booting sign into you google account they automatically save all contacts as they are created in your android device.... and anytime you have to reinstall droid your contacts come with you lol
lhwparis said:
i think there are much better ways as using this software? how about a tool to sync your outlook contacts with gmail and gmail with your android?
think this works very well.
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Import/Export of a C.S.V file is VERY easy between google/outlook.
you are all talking cross transfer I want to transfer direct not using Advert supported Gmail which I already use.! I want to sync Outlook direct. No way I would be slave to google for my email and other services. It is a commercial dive!
Sorry guys get your priority right. I am already using Google but I will not let them put Advert in my Email... No thank you!
Free or slave!
Regards
Tunc
I created a gmail account after setting up android and then went back to wm os used activesync with google and it keeps my contacts updated with both and i have not gotten a single advert email and seems a good alternative till usb sync is possible
agreed i stick with gmail since i get no advertisements what so ever
eresen said:
Sorry guys get your priority right. I am already using Google but I will not let them put Advert in my Email... No thank you!
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Am I missing something here? I don't get advertisements "in my Email." However, I do get advertisements surrounding my emails in a browser. Does that make me a slave to Google?
I take it you don't search using the major search engines like Google, Yahoo, or Bing either?
Check what is Google is planning they have right to include ads in your email as they wish. Since they have not implemented yet. Once they decide every email can include keyword base ads in delivery. if you mention Laptop you will get ads by Dell or Toshiba! So GMail will never be my main email for that reason only.... I always believe there are no free lunches! by Corporate.
Hey all ! Questions for the lucky ones with Evos already in hand out there.
It's unfortunately mission critical to me to be able to sync my phone with my MS Outlook contacts / calendar / notes (appointments, reminders, etc) and so on. Not running an exchange server... Just need to be able to sync my Outlook personal data every night. It's a work thing, you see...
Anyone out there in the same situation and with experience to share ? How well and reliably does the HTC Sync software work, in general, and more specifically with the Evo ?
Thanks !
Markko said:
Hey all ! Questions for the lucky ones with Evos already in hand out there.
It's unfortunately mission critical to me to be able to sync my phone with my MS Outlook contacts / calendar / notes (appointments, reminders, etc) and so on. Not running an exchange server... Just need to be able to sync my Outlook personal data every night. It's a work thing, you see...
Anyone out there in the same situation and with experience to share ? How well and reliably does the HTC Sync software work, in general, and more specifically with the Evo ?
Thanks !
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Well the website for HTC Synch doesn't even show it supports the EVO yet and it also shows it only supports Outlook 2000.
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Well the website for HTC Synch doesn't even show it supports the EVO yet and it also shows it only supports Outlook 2000.
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It doesn't only support 2000, it only says the latest version (2.0.33) supports 2000 - it previously wasn't the case.
Also, given that v2.0.33 supports the Incredible and the fact that I've read a couple times that HTC Sync actually comes with the EVO (on the SD card - EVO owners, what say you?), I don't think it's a stretch to assume it probably works with the device... All I want to know is how well HTC Sync works and how reliable & seamless the sync is; if EVO users have experience with it, then it's ideal and I'd love to hear !
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It doesn't only support 2000, it only says the latest version (2.0.33) supports 2000 - it previously wasn't the case.
Also, given that v2.0.33 supports the Incredible and the fact that I've read a couple times that HTC Sync actually comes with the EVO (on the SD card - EVO owners, what say you?), I don't think it's a stretch to assume it probably works with the device... All I want to know is how well HTC Sync works and how reliable & seamless the sync is; if EVO users have experience with it, then it's ideal and I'd love to hear !
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You are probably right
I would also like to know this...
I use outlook 2007 and use it for my calendars, tasks, and contacts....
will this work for me? Thanks
I have the same issue and don't like the HTC sync tool. messes with other things. I sync the contact manually with Google contacts once a month. i do this with a CSV file. I then loaded Googles calendar sync app which syncs my Work outlook calendar to my Google Calendar.
I created a second Google caledar which i use as my person calendar to keep them seperate.
Not pretty but works and is not phone or brand dependant
Google Calendar has a tool on its website ( dub-dub-dub-dot google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955 ) to sync with Outlook automatically. I know it does Calendar, but I'm not sure about Contacts. I'm pretty sure I've seen something for Calendar contacts.
The phone will automatically sync with your Google Calendar and Contacts.
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Google Calendar has a tool on its website ( dub-dub-dub-dot google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955 ) to sync with Outlook automatically. I know it does Calendar, but I'm not sure about Contacts. I'm pretty sure I've seen something for Calendar contacts.
The phone will automatically sync with your Google Calendar and Contacts.
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you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
eyecon82 said:
you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
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That's great guys but I'm not looking for workarounds through Google Calendar - I don't use Calendar, or Gmail. Putting my data in the cloud would breach confidentiality agreements with clients, unfortunately. So I need to know how well the straight-up PC to phone sync works... Until now I've been with WinMo (on HTC, of course) since it just works so seamlessly (well, the synching part), but I'm way overdue for a jump to Android...
eyecon82 said:
you are correct, the pc version only syncs calendar items...
just export the outlook files and import them into google contacts...very simple...only problem is that the pictures won't go over...does any one know how to do this? Thanks
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I am also making the switch from WinMo to Android, here is what I did to "sync" my contacts. I am not sure what I am going to do in the future, but mine don't change much anymore (4 years of working with outlook contacts, they are pretty up to date).
Sync'd phone with Outlook Contacts
Used PIM Backup to backup Contacts
Established OTA sync with Google (selected contacts only). This will remove contacts from phone.
Restored Contacts using PIM Backup
They then Sync'd with Google Contacts.
You might want to delete all your contacts on Google first or make sure you setup what has priority for the sync in the direction you want. Only takes about 10 minutes and ALL info is then sync'd properly.
HTC Sync 2.0.33 works fine with EVO. It can sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar items. Despite the fact HTC sync application says you can only sync Outlook 2000/2003/2007 I'm using Outlook 2010 and it works fine. Automatic/manual sync options are configurable. It's more stable than microsoft's active stink...err sync, or windows mobile device center.
on the SD card
HTC Sync 2.0.31 is included on the EVO sd card - works fine for me with contacts and calendar on Outlook 2007 - a little slower than active sync but it works and I'm happy with it.
I'm running XP
Mule
There is a new version made for the EVO on HTC website. It is version HTCSync2.0.35.
Here is the link:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/downloads#209
Thanks everybody ! Awesome to hear that it works well, especially on 2010 - that was one of my worries, since it's also what I'm running. Sweet !
outlook 2010 beta does not synch- even w 2.0.35
running win7 64bit & office 2010 beta, outlook 2010 does not show up in HTC Synch as a application w contacts or calandar available to sysnch (will only show the built-in windows contacts app as compatible.
Someone in this forum said it works, but does not say how, also, perhaps they are using the non-beta newly released profession version only available to corp accounts right now????? (consumers can't get RTM until June 14th).
Do I wait til June 14th and hope the RTM works, or does anyone have a work-arround?
Solutions for Outlook Sync
check out the following two solutions. they are both pay to play but will allow a 14 day demo period. Companionlink is a pretty decent google sync that uses google gmail for a conduit. I was skeptical but it does a great job. Seamless with the exception of Outlook notes. It even updates all contact notes etc. Calendar and task sync through google calendar. So far works pretty good. The second program was just was released this a.m. it is from dataviz, and is called roadsync 2.0. It uses exisiting htc contact, mail interface, but uses stand alone, tasks, calendar interface. This seems pretty decent as well just not as used to going to a second program for calendar. It is about a third of the price of the companionlink alternative.
using htc sync off the memory card... syncs great with calendar and contacts of outlook 2003. Wish wish wish it had notes... but with capacitive - is there even a decent notepad app?
People hate on me all the time for this - but sometimes I miss winmo (omnia or x51V)... was a little more mature and business oriented and tied in to outlook/office:
+synced great with outlook (contacts, calendar, email, NOTES - even with audio)
+whole operating screen would to go HDTV/Projector/monitor/tv through VGA or composite
+WMV/MPG/DIVX/XVID... all seemed to just work (TCPMP love!)
+Text to speech didn't sound like Hal while boards being slowly removed...
+Speech recognition - Voice Commander was TITS!!! LOVED IT. Handsfree!
+any bluetooth Keyboard, some mice - my laser keyboard all worked great!!! HID or SPP
+windows/startup let me easily kill off any task I didn't feel was necessary...
there was no amazon MP3 or other **** that felt it NEEDED to be ready to run at any moment if I didn't want it.
+ROOT out of the box!? Sometimes I think - would people really buy a computer if it only came with user and not admin permissions? and they couldn't delete bloatware and stuff?
+SDIO/CFIO? expansion possibilities - REALLY? an SD or even mini is too big?
+CF 32GB + SDHC 32GB = 64?!?
+IR (how fun is that at sports bars and magnolia/best buy, CES?)
+Fully functioning Office - word/excel/pp ... out of the box!
+RD/TSC
+WM mediaplayer(which had it's faults) DRM ecosystem... worked... so you could do rhapsody/amazon vod and stuff...
...
OK - sorry - I've vented. I'm done. X51V love forever! 6.5.3 was sweet! Screw you Dell and MS for killing a great system.
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running win7 64bit & office 2010 beta, outlook 2010 does not show up in HTC Synch as a application w contacts or calandar available to sysnch (will only show the built-in windows contacts app as compatible.
Someone in this forum said it works, but does not say how, also, perhaps they are using the non-beta newly released profession version only available to corp accounts right now????? (consumers can't get RTM until June 14th).
Do I wait til June 14th and hope the RTM works, or does anyone have a work-arround?
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I'm in a similar situation...
Running Win7 x64, Outlook 2010 x86
HTC Sync v 2.0.40 syncs my Outlook contacts with no problem, however I keep getting errors attempting to sync the calendar...
Unfortunately HTC Sync doesn't give me any real error message. I did a quick pass and could not locate any error logs either.
Any help? Was hoping this would be as seemless as ActiveSync/WMDC and I could avoid 2 to 3-step syncing.
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dfine1966 said:
There is a new version made for the EVO on HTC website. It is version HTCSync2.0.35.
Here is the link:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/downloads#209
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does anyone have another link i can download this from??
Has the sync issue with Outlook 2010 64-bit been solved?
I use my work email as a central source for contacts, managing them in Outlook. I sync with my Desire using HTC Sync, which works well and creates them on the phone as contacts with a type 'phone'. I would like to then sync these with gmail, but can't find a way to do it - and yes I've searched everywhere!
So the ideal would be - I add a contact in Outlook, which sync's with the phone using HTC Sync, which then wireless syncs with gmail - shouldn't be too hard, should it?
You could just export the Outlook contacts to a vCard and import that to Gmail.
That's my point - I could do it that way but it's a lot of manual effort. Surely there is some way of automating it?
Google are still working on the sync app, they've released the api to the community, unfortunately the only people working I'm it are corps wanting to make money, so until google pullover socks up. You either buy an app like 4team sync2, or manually update everything. There is a lb app called GO sync contacts, but while its free the dev has open
Sourced it, and gave up. There is an issue with it, so until someone fixes it. You need to buy one of these apps.
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That's my point - I could do it that way but it's a lot of manual effort. Surely there is some way of automating it?
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When I converted my phone contacts to Google contacts I did 3 things:
1. Exported all phone contacts to vcf file.
2. Copied the vcf file to my desktop
3. Imported the vcf file to my Google accounts (via Google contacts web UI).
It took about 1 minute.
I presume exporting all contacts to vcf in Outlook takes about the same time.
But the problem is I update my contacts daily (i'm a sales guy) so I want to keep them updated in all 3 places automatically by just updating Outlook. If either HTC Sync could create them on the phone as 'google' contacts, or I could sync 'phone' contacts to gmail, this would work.
If one of the apps mentioned above does this I'd be happy to pay for it.
Have you tried Companion Link?
chuk
If your willing to pay go for 4team sync2 it works very well, silent operation. And forwards all details you, can set sync times too. From memory its about $25
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Thanks guys, Companion Link, 4team and Soocial may work, I'm going to look at these in more detail.
Shame that all I really need to do is to set the contact type to 'Google' when I sync and it would work, or sync contact type of 'phone' with Gmail.
How about making the PC the central sync point? i.e. use both GO Contact Sync and HTC Sync on the PC running Outlook.
Hey guys,
My MD now has a Desire and I notice something strange happening when he syncs his outlook contacts.
Now I know from both sides (outlook, Android) , it doesn't really matter what you file someone's name as because when you search, it still appears either way. However, he is very particular so here is my problem.
When he syncs his outlook contacts to the device, on outlook they now appear as first name, last name. Even though they are set to File As Lastname, Firstname. Now if I open a contact in Outlook, flip the File As back from and to what it was, it then appears in outlook correctly (well how he wants it to).
However, next sync it will re appear as first, last... although file as is still last, first (Outlook)
Anyone have any ideas or noticed something similar?
I appreciate this is a minor issue but I would like to resolve it for him if possible.
Thanks for reading and any help appreciated.
Tell your MD to stop being so picky!!! LOL!!!
Seriously, though, I don't know - I stopped using Outlook sync and sync to my Gmail account now
EddyOS said:
Tell your MD to stop being so picky!!! LOL!!!
Seriously, though, I don't know - I stopped using Outlook sync and sync to my Gmail account now
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hehe I sooo wish I could do this. Im with you on that one too, I sync everything to google, life is easy. But he's very set in his ways lol... whats that saying? You cant teach an old dog new tricks
i had this issue as well, it took days to sort out and once I had them all as I needed it I just installed gsyncit and uninstalled HTC Sync. Outlook and phone perfectly in sync wirelessly for £9 !
i'm thinking about getting a desire, currently have htc touch 3g wm and have it sync'd to my company exchange server . whats the best way to recreate the same push email & sync functionality on the desire? Would Gsyncit do the job? thanks in advance
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i'm thinking about getting a desire, currently have htc touch 3g wm and have it sync'd to my company exchange server . whats the best way to recreate the same push email & sync functionality on the desire? Would Gsyncit do the job? thanks in advance
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no need, it will sync to exchange without anything other than your exchange details. No other software needed
cardiak said:
Hey guys,
My MD now has a Desire and I notice something strange happening when he syncs his outlook contacts.
Now I know from both sides (outlook, Android) , it doesn't really matter what you file someone's name as because when you search, it still appears either way. However, he is very particular so here is my problem.
When he syncs his outlook contacts to the device, on outlook they now appear as first name, last name. Even though they are set to File As Lastname, Firstname. Now if I open a contact in Outlook, flip the File As back from and to what it was, it then appears in outlook correctly (well how he wants it to).
However, next sync it will re appear as first, last... although file as is still last, first (Outlook)
Anyone have any ideas or noticed something similar?
I appreciate this is a minor issue but I would like to resolve it for him if possible.
Thanks for reading and any help appreciated.
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This is what I used:
xxx.slipstick.com/contacts/fileas.asp (change xxx to www)
and it worked perfectly.
I found after I got fed up of change 500 contacts individually (twice)
Thanks for that Redskinblack, looks like it'll be a great work around for us. Anyone have any info as to weather or not HTC are ever likely to fix this though?
outlook sync with htc sync then tried to sync back after wiping the contacts on my phone sent all my contacts screwy, added them to wrong groups, linked them to wrong facebook contacts...
I've found exporting to sd and importing again much easier and works much nicer - lose my groups but that's not as annoying as re-linking them all...
obviously doesnt help the outlook issue though
If it helps, I've been trying to find a reliable method to sync Outlook 2010 contacts with the Desire. I had similar issues with HTC Sync reversing first and last names as well as problems syncing.
Having looked at Gsyncit but not wanting to pay for it, I found MyPhoneExplorer which was originally developed for SE phones but has been updated to include Android. It works well and syncs over wifi. You install the program on your PC and the app from the Market. In the program, you then select Outlook as the source of your contacts.
In order to avoid duplicated contacts, I deleted all phone contacts prior to syncing and it copied all the Outlook contacts to my Desire. The only issue was that the Facebook contact link to the phone contacts was broken. This was resolved by removing the account from HTC Facebook for Sense, logging in again and linking a contact.
Hope this helps someone.
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If it helps, I've been trying to find a reliable method to sync Outlook 2010 contacts with the Desire. I had similar issues with HTC Sync reversing first and last names as well as problems syncing.
Having looked at Gsyncit but not wanting to pay for it, I found MyPhoneExplorer which was originally developed for SE phones but has been updated to include Android. It works well and syncs over wifi. You install the program on your PC and the app from the Market. In the program, you then select Outlook as the source of your contacts.
In order to avoid duplicated contacts, I deleted all phone contacts prior to syncing and it copied all the Outlook contacts to my Desire. The only issue was that the Facebook contact link to the phone contacts was broken. This was resolved by removing the account from HTC Facebook for Sense, logging in again and linking a contact.
Hope this helps someone.
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This is a great explanation. Very useful. Thanks.
i had the same problem with windows mobile phones trying to sync to my computer. here is the solution : when to write a new contact in outlook say his name is ( Dave Smith ) open up contact field in outlook express and now point to new contact .where it says FULL Name ,click on this icon usually you would put the first name ,in this instance (Dave) in the box where it says First and (Smith) in the box where it says Last .Don't do that .where is says First just put the whole name in there i.e Dave Smith . save all info ,when you have synced your phone ,it will say Dave Smith in your phone.
hope this helps and you understand.
The free sync tool MyPhoneExplorer works fine for me and you can set the first,last option as well.