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Windows live messenger help

Hello,
Is there anyway to stop Windows Live Messenger contacts being added to your phone contacts. I have tried going to Windows Live, select 'menu' and go to 'Options > 2 Sync options' and disable the option for sync contacts, But then when I go to sign in to Live messenger it tells me that it will sync my contacts to my contact lists.
Thanks

Anyone got any ideas for this problem

Hello,
I ahad this problem...But, when you install window live messenger, it ask you : "Add your MSN's contact in your mobile's contact", remove it. (I hope that you understood!!)

I understand what you mean, splodger15. I think it's kind of stupid idea that we have to sync all fkin contacts to our phone. I tried to disable it but , as you said, it seems like no way to do that. I don't think I need all msn messenger's contacts on our phone 'cos I use Window Live Messenger just to chat with my friends. so I don't need all fkin 500+ emails to be on my phone. for this reason, I prefer Pocket MSN to WLM, though WLM has more features than PMSN.
let's see what I got....
- My phone is Dopod D810 with WM6 rom and I love it.
- I tried to delete a WLM contact on my phone while I had WLM online. it was totally gone so I had to add my friend back again.
- I tried again, had WLM offline, deleted all 500 emails, and online again. I got nothing on WLM's contact list but......a second later, all email had synced and appeared on my phone's contacts again.
- if you know anything new, please let me know. I would appreciate it.
Good luck and happy holidays..........

Merge linked contacts permanently?

Hi I was wondering if anyone knows if you can merge together google contacts you've linked together using your desire. So the contacts would be merged in gmail and not just on my phone.
I've searched and haven't found anyone even raise the issue, so I was hoping someone knew if you could do this and if so how?
Thanks for any help.

No luck here either, it drives me crazy that I have contacts for people in 5 different places and I'm too lazy to manually merge them. The damn thing should just automerge and sync them all to google.

Thanks for your response,
I'd wrongly assumed there must be an option to sync the merges back to Google, as like you say that's what it should do, at least now I know to give up looking for the option, cheers.
And unfortunately I'm to lazy to do it manually too (took me long enough to do on the phone)

Once you sync contacts so long as you sync with Outlook/Google it should keep the links. Might take a while at first but once done it should be permanent

Yea I understand that, but I would have liked them to be merged if I looked at the contacts through Gmail on a computer, or if I updated to Froyo without Sense.
So rather than just keep the links, actually merge the contacts, for if I using something other than an HTC phone with Sense.

fozzy010 said:
Yea I understand that, but I would have liked them to be merged if I looked at the contacts through Gmail on a computer, or if I updated to Froyo without Sense.
So rather than just keep the links, actually merge the contacts, for if I using something other than an HTC phone with Sense.
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Exactly, I use multiple devices and I want all my contacts centralized and not duplicated.

Ahhh, got ya! So it'd have the info without linking to Facebook you mean?
Suppose you could just update the contact with all info you want on it and sync this with your devices...

Could try using Thunderbird as your pc email client (it has a duplicate contact add on) and something like Zindus to sync with gmail. This way you use your pc to sort your contacts and then sync to gmail, and then gmail to your phone. I've found this to work as long as you keep all of the contacts on Thunderbird under the default group (I created a group/email list and have spent the last two days working out why everyone in the group had disappeared from my phone:|)
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EddyOS said:
Ahhh, got ya! So it'd have the info without linking to Facebook you mean?
Suppose you could just update the contact with all info you want on it and sync this with your devices...
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Yea so for example, because some of my contacts are quite old, they were set up when you could only have one number with a contact so for some i have:
x mobile
x home
x work
so as HTC made it relatively easy I decided to merge these all into one contact.
Likewise for a lot of them I had email addresses stored on my gmail account, and HTC made it relatively easy to link these the email to a contact.
So I now have a set of nicely constructed contacts on my phone, but multiple entries for them in my google account, so would have liked an option to just make the links a permanent merge.
And yea I know I can do this manually, but it took long enough to do this on my phone in the first place, and as I've already said I'm too lazy to do it again. This thread wasn't meant to me moaning, just checking to see if there was a merger option or trick I was missing.
Edit: Thanks Iain I'll have a look at that when I have some spare time

Lol, I know it wasn't a moaning thread - don't think there is the option at the moment. TBH I bite the bullet and have a good prune session every now and then and get Outlook fully up to date and sync off that. I don't sync with Google

Damn, I loved the contact merging on my HTC Diamond, gmail was always up-to-date. Why the hell is HTC not doing the same on Android but just linking.... It looks good on the phone but is a mess in gmail...

If you have multiple Google contacts it's pretty easy to merge them online:
http://mail.google.com/mail/contacts/ui/ContactManager
(have to be logged into gmail to access it )

THX for that hint. But what I loved in TouchFlo was that my gmail conacts got automatically updated with info from Facebook, like the birthdays for example which then also showed up in the Google Calendar. Or when somebody changed mail adress or phonenumber, via TouchFlo these were automatically propagated to the Gogle Contacts.

Think this a FB issue, know they recently changed API access to prevent apps pulling down Birthdays automatically and saving of phone numbers has always been a no no for any apps.
Droid gets around this by preventing saving the number permanently or amending on the device.

Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.

Geekybiker said:
Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.
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Thanks, I'll try this later. It's still a problem that's bugging me to death. I keep getting returned 5 or 6 of the same number for a contact. Hopefully this will help.

Geekybiker said:
Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.
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Bit of a necromance but ran into this issue with my Desire HD.
Thanks for the solution, can't believe there's not a better way....

I have all my contacts in Gmail. All their numbers and email addresses are in there.
So whenever I edit a contact, it's edited in Gmail. It's pretty much all 'in the cloud'.

I use Outlook categories to keep my contacts clean and manageable. For syncing I am currently using MyPhoneExplorer after coming to grief with HTC Sync.

I've done some research now.
I found the app in the market called: GO contacts
this app can export ALL your contacts, also the ones that your HTC or android found with syncing with facebook, hyves, twitter, whatsapp, linkedin etc.
exported and imported in my gmail, so I have all the contacts in my gmail.
If they now remove their phone number (from facebook in example)
I still have it

Outlook Sync - Contacts "Files As"

Hey guys,
My MD now has a Desire and I notice something strange happening when he syncs his outlook contacts.
Now I know from both sides (outlook, Android) , it doesn't really matter what you file someone's name as because when you search, it still appears either way. However, he is very particular so here is my problem.
When he syncs his outlook contacts to the device, on outlook they now appear as first name, last name. Even though they are set to File As Lastname, Firstname. Now if I open a contact in Outlook, flip the File As back from and to what it was, it then appears in outlook correctly (well how he wants it to).
However, next sync it will re appear as first, last... although file as is still last, first (Outlook)
Anyone have any ideas or noticed something similar?
I appreciate this is a minor issue but I would like to resolve it for him if possible.
Thanks for reading and any help appreciated.

Tell your MD to stop being so picky!!! LOL!!!
Seriously, though, I don't know - I stopped using Outlook sync and sync to my Gmail account now

EddyOS said:
Tell your MD to stop being so picky!!! LOL!!!
Seriously, though, I don't know - I stopped using Outlook sync and sync to my Gmail account now
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hehe I sooo wish I could do this. Im with you on that one too, I sync everything to google, life is easy. But he's very set in his ways lol... whats that saying? You cant teach an old dog new tricks

i had this issue as well, it took days to sort out and once I had them all as I needed it I just installed gsyncit and uninstalled HTC Sync. Outlook and phone perfectly in sync wirelessly for £9 !

i'm thinking about getting a desire, currently have htc touch 3g wm and have it sync'd to my company exchange server . whats the best way to recreate the same push email & sync functionality on the desire? Would Gsyncit do the job? thanks in advance

ukmapleleaf said:
i'm thinking about getting a desire, currently have htc touch 3g wm and have it sync'd to my company exchange server . whats the best way to recreate the same push email & sync functionality on the desire? Would Gsyncit do the job? thanks in advance
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no need, it will sync to exchange without anything other than your exchange details. No other software needed

cardiak said:
Hey guys,
My MD now has a Desire and I notice something strange happening when he syncs his outlook contacts.
Now I know from both sides (outlook, Android) , it doesn't really matter what you file someone's name as because when you search, it still appears either way. However, he is very particular so here is my problem.
When he syncs his outlook contacts to the device, on outlook they now appear as first name, last name. Even though they are set to File As Lastname, Firstname. Now if I open a contact in Outlook, flip the File As back from and to what it was, it then appears in outlook correctly (well how he wants it to).
However, next sync it will re appear as first, last... although file as is still last, first (Outlook)
Anyone have any ideas or noticed something similar?
I appreciate this is a minor issue but I would like to resolve it for him if possible.
Thanks for reading and any help appreciated.
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This is what I used:
xxx.slipstick.com/contacts/fileas.asp (change xxx to www)
and it worked perfectly.
I found after I got fed up of change 500 contacts individually (twice)

Thanks for that Redskinblack, looks like it'll be a great work around for us. Anyone have any info as to weather or not HTC are ever likely to fix this though?

outlook sync with htc sync then tried to sync back after wiping the contacts on my phone sent all my contacts screwy, added them to wrong groups, linked them to wrong facebook contacts...
I've found exporting to sd and importing again much easier and works much nicer - lose my groups but that's not as annoying as re-linking them all...
obviously doesnt help the outlook issue though

If it helps, I've been trying to find a reliable method to sync Outlook 2010 contacts with the Desire. I had similar issues with HTC Sync reversing first and last names as well as problems syncing.
Having looked at Gsyncit but not wanting to pay for it, I found MyPhoneExplorer which was originally developed for SE phones but has been updated to include Android. It works well and syncs over wifi. You install the program on your PC and the app from the Market. In the program, you then select Outlook as the source of your contacts.
In order to avoid duplicated contacts, I deleted all phone contacts prior to syncing and it copied all the Outlook contacts to my Desire. The only issue was that the Facebook contact link to the phone contacts was broken. This was resolved by removing the account from HTC Facebook for Sense, logging in again and linking a contact.
Hope this helps someone.

crazybones said:
If it helps, I've been trying to find a reliable method to sync Outlook 2010 contacts with the Desire. I had similar issues with HTC Sync reversing first and last names as well as problems syncing.
Having looked at Gsyncit but not wanting to pay for it, I found MyPhoneExplorer which was originally developed for SE phones but has been updated to include Android. It works well and syncs over wifi. You install the program on your PC and the app from the Market. In the program, you then select Outlook as the source of your contacts.
In order to avoid duplicated contacts, I deleted all phone contacts prior to syncing and it copied all the Outlook contacts to my Desire. The only issue was that the Facebook contact link to the phone contacts was broken. This was resolved by removing the account from HTC Facebook for Sense, logging in again and linking a contact.
Hope this helps someone.
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This is a great explanation. Very useful. Thanks.

i had the same problem with windows mobile phones trying to sync to my computer. here is the solution : when to write a new contact in outlook say his name is ( Dave Smith ) open up contact field in outlook express and now point to new contact .where it says FULL Name ,click on this icon usually you would put the first name ,in this instance (Dave) in the box where it says First and (Smith) in the box where it says Last .Don't do that .where is says First just put the whole name in there i.e Dave Smith . save all info ,when you have synced your phone ,it will say Dave Smith in your phone.
hope this helps and you understand.

The free sync tool MyPhoneExplorer works fine for me and you can set the first,last option as well.

[Q] How many want the ability to DISABLE contact sync from main Live account?

Hey
I was just wondering how many of you would like the ability to disable contact and calendar syncing from your main Windows Live account linked to your phone? When I first realized this was the case I immediately hard-reset my phone and made a new Windows Live account just for the phone so I would not have my 300 Live Messenger contacts in my People Hub however, this is not the case for everyone, and this solution has disabled my ability to find my phone from the internet if it is ever lost or stolen.
The point of this thread is sheer curiosity as too how many xda-dev members are affected by this poor choice of implementation.
What is your make-shift solution?

I read so much about all these extra contacts from Facebook e.a., but really don't experience it as a problem whatsoever. I have some 600+ contacts on Exchange, don't know how many on Facebook, and my Windows Live account pulls data from several sources including LinkedIn, totalling some 700.
I have yet to have a single instance where it's a problem. I mean, scrolling through the contact list would certainly be a pain, but there's search.

Before I even got a WP7 phone, I read that there wa sno way to disable contact sync from your Windows Live account so I just created a new one and using that for the time being. It would be nice to have the option to actually disable that part because I wouldn't mind using my normal Live account which is also linked up to my Xbox account, as I don't believe you can change the email on them?

I wish there was an option to do this

It doesn't bother at all. On the contrary that was the opportunity to get rid of all the rubbish contacts I had on Live Messenger and those that I kept I gave their proper ID, not some random childish name they've been using on Messenger. My contacts list actually looks like an adult list now.
There's no way I would create a new Live ID just for that reason as I've been using it for too many years and it's tied to my Xbox and Zune accounts.
I'm fine with the way it is.

By the way I cleaned up my Facebook contacts the same way. No points having hundreds of contacts I don't care about or barely know. My Facebook friends are actual friends and it's much better like that.

Peew971 said:
It doesn't bother at all. On the contrary that was the opportunity to get rid of all the rubbish contacts I had on Live Messenger and those that I kept I gave their proper ID, not some random childish name they've been using on Messenger. My contacts list actually looks like an adult list now.
There's no way I would create a new Live ID just for that reason as I've been using it for too many years and it's tied to my Xbox and Zune accounts.
I'm fine with the way it is.
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By the way I cleaned up my Facebook contacts the same way. No points having hundreds of contacts I don't care about or barely know. My Facebook friends are actual friends and it's much better like that.
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I think that the implementation is great. With calendar and contacts everything gets synced and you can always set the facebook account to only show data for those in your phone or live account.
About the Facebook settings, its great to have it set like I mentioned above and being able to search them at the same time even without them showing on the All section in the contact list.
I took he same approach as you and went to clean both my Live and Facebook accounts. I have everything synced and working flawlessly for my contacts.

I did the same as others and after realizing how many useless contacts I had in Live I just deleted a bunch. However, that should absolutely not be what Microsoft makes you do if you want to manage your Live contacts with WP7.
I really wish they just gave the same filtering option that Facebook's sync provides. Now I still have some 100 people extra that I want to keep but don't want to see on my phone that I am stuck with.
I assume they do this because of the way email works--if you hid the contacts in the People Hub then you may not be able to email those people using your phone.

OGCF said:
I assume they do this because of the way email works--if you hid the contacts in the People Hub then you may not be able to email those people using your phone.
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yea but answer this, how many times have you emailed a friend for a NON-BUSINESS related subject as opposed to IM'ing them or posting on their facebook wall/inbox.
email is dead.

ME!! ME!!!
I don't want to sync ANYTHING from the live account but xbox live stuff and email. I don't want contacts, calendar, etc, etc.
I have an exchange account for that.
It's annoying to see two calendars listed even though I only use the one in my exchange account. It's also useless for me the photos, feeds, etc, etc.
I wish that every single account would let me pick what I actually want to sync.

Downside to syncing contacts with Live

I've had a hotmail account for more than a decade. Probably 13 or 14 years. But I didn't use it often, and never stored contacts online (I use Outlook for my mail, and sync it with gmail, and don't store contacts online there). But now, in order to sync Outlook contacts with Windows Phone 7, I set up hotmail to sync with Outlook, and now all of my contacts have been sent a spam email through my hotmail account. Spam is why I rarely used hotmail to begin with. GRRR!
Thumbs down to MS for making us use Live.com!

looks like you have a trojan on your PC. Check your anitvirus and check if you have all the Windows and Outlook updates installed.
Sorry, but this is not a problem with live.com it is with your computer.
BTW, you can sync your contacts without configuring/syncing mail etc... check out http://www.soocial.com/

You also may want to change your hotmail password to something you don't use (and have never used) elsewhere.

GRRR...
Ok... I guess I was too quick to blame Live... Malwarebytes is running now, for about 15 minutes, hasn't found anything yet, but we'll see. Password changed as well.

My Live contacts contain the same amount of contacts as my gmail account for many years and never got spam emails for that. It is typically caused by malware on your PC that uses your outlook (or even worse, outlook express) as gold mine to send out spams.

One thing I've noticed is that in my call log all the entries are numbers. Numbers don't seem to match up to names and show the Names and Pictures - like... ever... They're just a bunch of numbers and who the hell remembers all of everyone's phone numbers (some people have home work and two mobiles ).

Almost done with the second scan - still nothing found. :/

Probably caused by one of your emails that contains malware and you clicked on it. The embedded malware will execute (sending out emails from your address book) and it will be gone afterwards. I'll be supprised it can be detected by any software. Besides, a few trojan I encountered in the past can't be detected by anything either. But those are much more dangerous than just sending out the spam mail.

I find Live Service is really helpful on Storing my contact. I don't have to worry about backing 'em up on my simcard. I can have all my contact number even i change the simcard...

hopmedic said:
Almost done with the second scan - still nothing found. :/
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try Microsoft security essentials. I have found it to be quite good with detecting things that went unnoticed with my previously installed software (mcafee)

Before I synced my info I went through and did some cleaning on my contact list on live. I love that it is all on live and I can remotely wipe my phone and have my contacts on a new phone in a matter of minutes.

i love the live sync as well, i was not for it until i got my HD7...

arkavat said:
looks like you have a trojan on your PC. Check your anitvirus and check if you have all the Windows and Outlook updates installed.
Sorry, but this is not a problem with live.com it is with your computer.
BTW, you can sync your contacts without configuring/syncing mail etc... check out http://www.soocial.com/
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Windows Phone 7 is not supported on their website yet..

Thanks for all the good input.

I see that Calendar and Contact sync is good in a way it quickly transfers necessary data to your new device.
But WL has two big down sides.
* Limitation of about 1000 contacts. If you go above that expect errors
* You can't sync separately Email, Contacts and Calendar when you want but just all at once.

Also: they *don't* force you to use Live to sync your contacts. You can sync them to Gmail or any number of similar services, as well as anything that supports the Activesync protocol. I sync exclusively to Google Contacts and have since the day I got the phone, problem free

Purple11 said:
Windows Phone 7 is not supported on their website yet..
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that's for syncing outlook contacts to Live contacts or any other service. Once you sync your contacts to live or gmail account, Windows Phone 7 can sync with them.

doministry said:
* Limitation of about 1000 contacts. If you go above that expect errors
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I've had more than 1500 contacts since day 1 and haven't had an issue. I used Outlook Connector to sync the to my Live account and my phone was automtically populated with all of them.

wspaw said:
I've had more than 1500 contacts since day 1 and haven't had an issue. I used Outlook Connector to sync the to my Live account and my phone was automtically populated with all of them.
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So you're lucky! 1000 contacts limitation is well known in Hotmail accounts.
In my case until I cleaned manually my Contacts list the phone was performing looped sync of contacts resulting in endless sync (reaching 25000 contacts synced and still going on......)

Windows Live is always evolving and like other limitations, the 1000 contacts do not exist anymore, and its going to be at least 2 years now that limitation does not exists...