I use my work email as a central source for contacts, managing them in Outlook. I sync with my Desire using HTC Sync, which works well and creates them on the phone as contacts with a type 'phone'. I would like to then sync these with gmail, but can't find a way to do it - and yes I've searched everywhere!
So the ideal would be - I add a contact in Outlook, which sync's with the phone using HTC Sync, which then wireless syncs with gmail - shouldn't be too hard, should it?
You could just export the Outlook contacts to a vCard and import that to Gmail.
That's my point - I could do it that way but it's a lot of manual effort. Surely there is some way of automating it?
Google are still working on the sync app, they've released the api to the community, unfortunately the only people working I'm it are corps wanting to make money, so until google pullover socks up. You either buy an app like 4team sync2, or manually update everything. There is a lb app called GO sync contacts, but while its free the dev has open
Sourced it, and gave up. There is an issue with it, so until someone fixes it. You need to buy one of these apps.
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That's my point - I could do it that way but it's a lot of manual effort. Surely there is some way of automating it?
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When I converted my phone contacts to Google contacts I did 3 things:
1. Exported all phone contacts to vcf file.
2. Copied the vcf file to my desktop
3. Imported the vcf file to my Google accounts (via Google contacts web UI).
It took about 1 minute.
I presume exporting all contacts to vcf in Outlook takes about the same time.
But the problem is I update my contacts daily (i'm a sales guy) so I want to keep them updated in all 3 places automatically by just updating Outlook. If either HTC Sync could create them on the phone as 'google' contacts, or I could sync 'phone' contacts to gmail, this would work.
If one of the apps mentioned above does this I'd be happy to pay for it.
Have you tried Companion Link?
chuk
If your willing to pay go for 4team sync2 it works very well, silent operation. And forwards all details you, can set sync times too. From memory its about $25
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http://www.soocial.com/
Thanks guys, Companion Link, 4team and Soocial may work, I'm going to look at these in more detail.
Shame that all I really need to do is to set the contact type to 'Google' when I sync and it would work, or sync contact type of 'phone' with Gmail.
How about making the PC the central sync point? i.e. use both GO Contact Sync and HTC Sync on the PC running Outlook.
Related
Just ahead of MS' My Phone beta this week, here comes Google Mobile Sync for WinMobile, with Exchanged-based Contacts and Calendar sync to the Google cloud. As its push based, changes in one end automatically get pushed to the other.
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
GMail Imap frustrates a lot of users, add Gmail to this Exchange-solution in the cloud, and I would never look back at Imap.
very nice i was waiting for this so long. Now only a way to download it... lol IE explorer and opera both give me: Google sync is not supported by your device. It becomes time google puts in a link to manually override this auto detecting crap, because it obviously doesnt work all to well...
This could be interesting but how well does Outlook 2003 sync with Google (in the sky)?
I use Google Calendar to Sync my outlook files so that I can share my calendar but if this does that for me, then I suppose I don't need to do that step (other than it would save my data plan!)
Regards
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very nice i was waiting for this so long. Now only a way to download it... lol IE explorer and opera both give me: Google sync is not supported by your device. It becomes time google puts in a link to manually override this auto detecting crap, because it obviously doesnt work all to well...
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There is no application to download, you just setup activesync on your phone as shown at this link
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
nice. Although i'd only use this if you could turn off the contact sync. You could end up with a contact list full of your gmail suggested contacts...
I think you can indeed turn off the contact sync. Just uncheck "Contacts" in the ActiveSync settings dialog. Haven't tested this yet, but should do, doesn't it?
I use www.nuevasync.com that offers a very similar service for some time now.
And since a few months ago it doesn't add those suggested contacts anymore because googles api can seperate them. Perhaps I'll try sync and see if it works as well as nuevasync does.
I use OggSync Pro works great for what I need
http://oggsync.com/
I'm still confused about syncing contacts. I have a Desire on Orange. I have a gmail account, and I use the htc mail app and connect to my gmail account using exchange. I sync my contacts to my gmail account using `google/sync contacts` from the sync page, and I sync my mail using `exchange activesync`. I do this because I can see/edit my contacts via the web gmail page (which is easier/faster than doing it on the phone), and because the mail app is better than the gmail app. But it seems that I have some contact information on my phone which is not visible via the gmail website. To pick one example, it's showing as a `linked contact` between 'exchange' and 'google'. Can I see my exchange contacts online? Where are they? I want them in one place, so I can back them up occasionally (I've already lost my contacts once as I set my phone up). It would seem to make sense, given that some contact info appears to be on exchange somewhere, to have them all there - then I can stop syncing with 'google' on my phone altogether, but I have to be able to see/edit/back them up first.
I've tried googling for this, but all I see is Googles own pages for other platforms, non-free apps to do exchange etc etc.
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I'm still confused about syncing contacts. I have a Desire on Orange. I have a gmail account, and I use the htc mail app and connect to my gmail account using exchange. I sync my contacts to my gmail account using `google/sync contacts` from the sync page, and I sync my mail using `exchange activesync`. I do this because I can see/edit my contacts via the web gmail page (which is easier/faster than doing it on the phone), and because the mail app is better than the gmail app. But it seems that I have some contact information on my phone which is not visible via the gmail website. To pick one example, it's showing as a `linked contact` between 'exchange' and 'google'. Can I see my exchange contacts online? Where are they? I want them in one place, so I can back them up occasionally (I've already lost my contacts once as I set my phone up). It would seem to make sense, given that some contact info appears to be on exchange somewhere, to have them all there - then I can stop syncing with 'google' on my phone altogether, but I have to be able to see/edit/back them up first.
I've tried googling for this, but all I see is Googles own pages for other platforms, non-free apps to do exchange etc etc.
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I have the same issues too
Well i don't use exchange, but i can say how i use my gmail sync:
I use Sync/google account on the definitions menu to sync my google calendar, contacts and mail.
This allows me to use mail on gmail app (not htc mail app), calendar on android calendar (i can use htc calendar widgets) and manage online contacts.
Since i previously added my "phone" contacts to phone memory and to a group on google contacts, they have linked to each other and i can mantain an online and local copy of them (this is great to add a hi res picture to contact, since i add the picture to online and local and then choose local picture to be displayed).
I do know that some fields from online google contacts and local contacts are different, and i think this is as stupid as the picture not having quality on google contacts online, but i hope they would solve it in a near future.
I hope that from now on, since google is saying that the BIG changes on Android are done, they will spend some time dealing with the little details that can be very annoying...
Same issue here.
Sync of Contacts
Google-Contacts -> Desire: works
Desire -> Google-Contacts: dosent work
If i try to add or change a birthday on the phone it does not arrive theo google-contacts account. The other way works. Biggest issue on this fine phone.
Hexxer said:
Same issue here.
Sync of Contacts
Google-Contacts -> Desire: works
Desire -> Google-Contacts: dosent work
If i try to add or change a birthday on the phone it does not arrive theo google-contacts account. The other way works. Biggest issue on this fine phone.
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Hi, that issues are from Android and Gmail and not from the Desire.
You should add birthday dates to Google contacts or else the synchronization wont work well, but i do agree these are major stuffs that really annoy me!
There could be an interesseting thing.
I have Software-Version 1.15.XXXX (T-Mobile, rooted Phone) and i found an O2 User with 1.20.XXX - he said it works at his phone.
Hexxer said:
There could be an interesseting thing.
I have Software-Version 1.15.XXXX (T-Mobile, rooted Phone) and i found an O2 User with 1.20.XXX - he said it works at his phone.
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Uau! How can he have an 1.20.xxx? I have unlocked Desire also with 1.15.XXX and no updates for me!
Well I now have 1.21.405.2 updated from ota.
Hi I was wondering if anyone knows if you can merge together google contacts you've linked together using your desire. So the contacts would be merged in gmail and not just on my phone.
I've searched and haven't found anyone even raise the issue, so I was hoping someone knew if you could do this and if so how?
Thanks for any help.
No luck here either, it drives me crazy that I have contacts for people in 5 different places and I'm too lazy to manually merge them. The damn thing should just automerge and sync them all to google.
Thanks for your response,
I'd wrongly assumed there must be an option to sync the merges back to Google, as like you say that's what it should do, at least now I know to give up looking for the option, cheers.
And unfortunately I'm to lazy to do it manually too (took me long enough to do on the phone)
Once you sync contacts so long as you sync with Outlook/Google it should keep the links. Might take a while at first but once done it should be permanent
Yea I understand that, but I would have liked them to be merged if I looked at the contacts through Gmail on a computer, or if I updated to Froyo without Sense.
So rather than just keep the links, actually merge the contacts, for if I using something other than an HTC phone with Sense.
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Yea I understand that, but I would have liked them to be merged if I looked at the contacts through Gmail on a computer, or if I updated to Froyo without Sense.
So rather than just keep the links, actually merge the contacts, for if I using something other than an HTC phone with Sense.
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Exactly, I use multiple devices and I want all my contacts centralized and not duplicated.
Ahhh, got ya! So it'd have the info without linking to Facebook you mean?
Suppose you could just update the contact with all info you want on it and sync this with your devices...
Could try using Thunderbird as your pc email client (it has a duplicate contact add on) and something like Zindus to sync with gmail. This way you use your pc to sort your contacts and then sync to gmail, and then gmail to your phone. I've found this to work as long as you keep all of the contacts on Thunderbird under the default group (I created a group/email list and have spent the last two days working out why everyone in the group had disappeared from my phone:|)
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Ahhh, got ya! So it'd have the info without linking to Facebook you mean?
Suppose you could just update the contact with all info you want on it and sync this with your devices...
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Yea so for example, because some of my contacts are quite old, they were set up when you could only have one number with a contact so for some i have:
x mobile
x home
x work
so as HTC made it relatively easy I decided to merge these all into one contact.
Likewise for a lot of them I had email addresses stored on my gmail account, and HTC made it relatively easy to link these the email to a contact.
So I now have a set of nicely constructed contacts on my phone, but multiple entries for them in my google account, so would have liked an option to just make the links a permanent merge.
And yea I know I can do this manually, but it took long enough to do this on my phone in the first place, and as I've already said I'm too lazy to do it again. This thread wasn't meant to me moaning, just checking to see if there was a merger option or trick I was missing.
Edit: Thanks Iain I'll have a look at that when I have some spare time
Lol, I know it wasn't a moaning thread - don't think there is the option at the moment. TBH I bite the bullet and have a good prune session every now and then and get Outlook fully up to date and sync off that. I don't sync with Google
Damn, I loved the contact merging on my HTC Diamond, gmail was always up-to-date. Why the hell is HTC not doing the same on Android but just linking.... It looks good on the phone but is a mess in gmail...
If you have multiple Google contacts it's pretty easy to merge them online:
http://mail.google.com/mail/contacts/ui/ContactManager
(have to be logged into gmail to access it )
THX for that hint. But what I loved in TouchFlo was that my gmail conacts got automatically updated with info from Facebook, like the birthdays for example which then also showed up in the Google Calendar. Or when somebody changed mail adress or phonenumber, via TouchFlo these were automatically propagated to the Gogle Contacts.
Think this a FB issue, know they recently changed API access to prevent apps pulling down Birthdays automatically and saving of phone numbers has always been a no no for any apps.
Droid gets around this by preventing saving the number permanently or amending on the device.
Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.
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Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.
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Thanks, I'll try this later. It's still a problem that's bugging me to death. I keep getting returned 5 or 6 of the same number for a contact. Hopefully this will help.
Geekybiker said:
Old thread I know, but I was looking to do this and solved it.
-Export your address book on the phone to vcard.
-Email yourself this file. (You may need astro to find it. I used k9 mail and astro)
-Save this file on your PC.
-Goto your google contacts list on your PC.
-Import a vcard. Direct it to this file.
-Google automagically merges the contacts for you.
The unfortunate part is that you still have to manually delete the contacts that were on your phone, but at least everything is in the cloud now. You could just blow away your contacts entirely and resync.
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Bit of a necromance but ran into this issue with my Desire HD.
Thanks for the solution, can't believe there's not a better way....
I have all my contacts in Gmail. All their numbers and email addresses are in there.
So whenever I edit a contact, it's edited in Gmail. It's pretty much all 'in the cloud'.
I use Outlook categories to keep my contacts clean and manageable. For syncing I am currently using MyPhoneExplorer after coming to grief with HTC Sync.
I've done some research now.
I found the app in the market called: GO contacts
this app can export ALL your contacts, also the ones that your HTC or android found with syncing with facebook, hyves, twitter, whatsapp, linkedin etc.
exported and imported in my gmail, so I have all the contacts in my gmail.
If they now remove their phone number (from facebook in example)
I still have it
ok i have an outlook email account but its not part of activesync. I can of course get my email on the phone but on one of my older phones the mogul I could set up my outlook on it and i used it to receive vcf files, and my calendar, appts, and reminders.
is their any app or way to get it like that on my evo?
Moxier mail works for me
does moxier mail read vcf files? and can it pull in contacts? also isnt it 30$
samrozzi said:
ok i have an outlook email account but its not part of activesync. I can of course get my email on the phone but on one of my older phones the mogul I could set up my outlook on it and i used it to receive vcf files, and my calendar, appts, and reminders.
is their any app or way to get it like that on my evo?
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The HTC Sync software actually works really well for me. I have Outlook 2003, and between it, and my google calendar, and work calendar, it all shows up fine on the Evo.
HTC Sync will take some tweaking, though. Your contacts (google in my case) will appear doubled - you'll have 'phone' and 'google' contacts - just link them and they'll sync either way - up to google or down to your outlook. The phone will act as the bridge between them.
but does that enable you to view vcf files? and import info?
Are there any apps which will sync a non-HTC phone with Outlook. Note: This is not exchange, just a local copy of outlook, which is where my calendar and contacts are stored.
I do not wish to wash my contacts/calendar through GMAIL so I am wondering if an app exists.
I am currently on a HTC phone so I have access to HTC Sync which automatically sync's to a local copy of Outlook; something I suspect will not work if I move off of HTC.
Thanks!
that is a positively no
to an Exchange Server yes, to Office Outlook, no
you can install Outlook to Google Sync
Then Sync everything to your Gmail account
Odd
HTC gives that functionality for free with their phones, so it is clearly possible.
Would be a great app for a developer; no idea why it does not exist.
jdmba said:
HTC gives that functionality for free with their phones, so it is clearly possible.
Would be a great app for a developer; no idea why it does not exist.
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Probably because most people either sync it with Exchange or Google already. Tethered sync is a thing of the past.
With that said, nothing is stopping someone from developing it but I don't think that many people use that.
Email client should be synced with servers, not other clients. I never understand why people want to sync with outlook.
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Ahhhhh but there is the issue. I am not seeking to sync an Email client.
I am seeing to sync a pim.
In other words, my calendar and contacts are all in outlook, and HTC phones come with a program to sync contacts and calendar with outlook. I an looking for that functionality in an app.
Answers are appreciated.
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[Q] SIMPLE Sync with Outlook?
I don't store my contacts online, only in Outlook and on my phone. I used to use HTC Sync with my Desire HD.... hows the hell do I do this simple thing on the Nexus!? Searching seems to bring up that I should install some crappy Google tools (that I don't want) to sync to the net.
I tries Kies, as it's a Samsung, but predictably it didn't work.
jdmba said:
Ahhhhh but there is the issue. I am not seeking to sync an Email client.
I am seeing to sync a pim.
In other words, my calendar and contacts are all in outlook, and HTC phones come with a program to sync contacts and calendar with outlook. I an looking for that functionality in an app.
Answers are appreciated.
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Run an Exchange server?
MyPhoneExplorer might work, if the client runs on ICS. http://www.fjsoft.at/en/home.php
Look for the client in the market.
Why not use Moxier? Search Android Market.
I only know Moxier Mail and that's an exchange client. Can one of the Moxier products really sync directly with Outlook via USB or bt?
Hi,
I currently use HTC Desire and Im order Galaxy Nexus. I have all my Contacts, Calendars in outlook and I synch them with HTC Sync application(Both way: Phone->PC & PC->Phone). I need same functionality on my new Galaxy Nexus.
1.) Is there some free application which can do this?
2.) It can be some plugin for outlook 2007/2010 which automatic sync with google when I make some changes on PC or when I press sync button on phone(I don't have enabled automatic sync). Do exist something like this?
If exist something like I searching can someone post link to PC app(For phone I don't want any application because it will use google contacts, calendar, notes...)
Thanks for any help.
_Dejan_ said:
Hi,
2.) It can be some plugin for outlook 2007/2010 which automatic sync with google when I make some changes on PC or when I press sync button on phone(I don't have enabled automatic sync). Do exist something like this?
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Google Apps Sync? Click here for further info
Google Calendar Sync supports 2 way syncing - Click here
What about funambol? Click here
apd said:
Google Apps Sync? Click here for further info
Google Calendar Sync supports 2 way syncing - Click here
What about funambol? Click here
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Hi,
Thanks for your help.
Im already try "Google Apps Sync" few weeks ago when Im try sync Nexus S(Which Im have on test and Im return it) with google...
Im try it again now but I still have same problem:
When I install it it ask me for google account and password. I write both but return me error:
Google Apps Sync is not enabled for your email account. Please ask your domain administrator to enable it.
Im look search for solution and find few but I don't want link any domain to Google Apps.
Im also try "Google Calendar Sync" and it work normaly.
I don't want sharing my personal and bussines data to Google but because I don't have other option I will do that but sharing data to some 3rd company like funambol is not option.
So now I must find solution for Contacts.
I am in the same boat as the OP, Nokia does it with PC suite, HTC does it with HTC Sync, Samsung does it with KIES, I have a Nexus one and have not been able to sync outlook with the nexus or outlook with Google, I Keep getting errors, my HTC Desire Z I just plug the cable to the phone and laptop it connects syncs everything is fine, all I want is to sync Contacts and Calendar, the only solution I found to sync with the Nexus one and it looks like I have to do the same with the Galaxy Nexus is to export Outlook files than import them with Google and sync from there, with contacts its no big problem once a week or month is fine but with Calendar to do this daily and sometimes a few times daily as schedule changes its a pain, why Google or any develop has never thought of making an app for easy sync is beyond me, if HTC Samsung Nokia and Apple can do it why not Google ?
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I am in the same boat as the OP, Nokia does it with PC suite, HTC does it with HTC Sync, Samsung does it with KIES, I have a Nexus one and have not been able to sync outlook with the nexus or outlook with Google, I Keep getting errors, my HTC Desire Z I just plug the cable to the phone and laptop it connects syncs everything is fine, all I want is to sync Contacts and Calendar, the only solution I found to sync with the Nexus one and it looks like I have to do the same with the Galaxy Nexus is to export Outlook files than import them with Google and sync from there, with contacts its no big problem once a week or month is fine but with Calendar to do this daily and sometimes a few times daily as schedule changes its a pain, why Google or any develop has never thought of making an app for easy sync is beyond me, if HTC Samsung Nokia and Apple can do it why not Google ?
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Wait, you update your calendar several times a day and you want to manually sync it each time by connecting the phone to a computer? Even with things like HTC Sync that does it quickly, that doesn't sound like a good idea...
This is why Android supports Exchange ActiveSync, so Microsoft products users can get instant updates on their Android handsets. Users who need to manually sync their Microsoft products offline is such a corner case, I doubt they will ever provide a good solution for it. That was something that made sense back in the Pocket PC days when phone and PDA were separate things. But it doesn't make much sense in today's world of smartphones. What you need to do is just run an Exchange server.
jdmba said:
Are there any apps which will sync a non-HTC phone with Outlook. Note: This is not exchange, just a local copy of outlook, which is where my calendar and contacts are stored.
I do not wish to wash my contacts/calendar through GMAIL so I am wondering if an app exists.
I am currently on a HTC phone so I have access to HTC Sync which automatically sync's to a local copy of Outlook; something I suspect will not work if I move off of HTC.
Thanks!
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try this, http://www.companionlink.com/android/outlook/
I'm not sure if they support android 4.0 yet, but I have used it to sync palm desktop to android, outlook to android, and everything else in between. It isn't free, but if you really only need to do it once, you get a 14 day trial.
arimus said:
I am in the same boat as the OP, Nokia does it with PC suite, HTC does it with HTC Sync, Samsung does it with KIES, I have a Nexus one and have not been able to sync outlook with the nexus or outlook with Google, I Keep getting errors, my HTC Desire Z I just plug the cable to the phone and laptop it connects syncs everything is fine, all I want is to sync Contacts and Calendar, the only solution I found to sync with the Nexus one and it looks like I have to do the same with the Galaxy Nexus is to export Outlook files than import them with Google and sync from there, with contacts its no big problem once a week or month is fine but with Calendar to do this daily and sometimes a few times daily as schedule changes its a pain, why Google or any develop has never thought of making an app for easy sync is beyond me, if HTC Samsung Nokia and Apple can do it why not Google ?
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For calendar try "Google Calendar Sync" and set it both way and 120 minutes. It will sync outlook to google calendar every 120minutes. then you just click sync(if you don't have enabled auto sync) on phone and phone will sync calendar automaticly...
Only issue for me now is Contacts. Currently I have on Desire contacts synced by outlook and linked them to facebook that I have people images does Nexus support linking contacts?
Im long time ago try CompanionLink to sync contact's to HTC TyTn II with Android(If I remember right version 1.6) and it is fu*** all my contacts in outlook(remove international calling codes and some other things)... Also Im need to install some application on phone and sync take loooooong(It is pack all contacts, calendars on phone and transfer them by usb to pc, then pc analyze data and send back updates)...
If Im right this app from CompanionLink will be right for us:
http://www.companionlink.com/google/outlook/
All we need is sync Outlook to google. But this app cost 50USD. This is to much. Im spend €644 EUR(£530.27 GBP) for phone and now I must buy app to sync contacts? No way Cheaper HTC Desire(It cost £407 GPB) more than one and half year ago have Sync functionality with outlook included...
Chirality said:
Wait, you update your calendar several times a day and you want to manually sync it each time by connecting the phone to a computer? Even with things like HTC Sync that does it quickly, that doesn't sound like a good idea...
This is why Android supports Exchange ActiveSync, so Microsoft products users can get instant updates on their Android handsets. Users who need to manually sync their Microsoft products offline is such a corner case, I doubt they will ever provide a good solution for it. That was something that made sense back in the Pocket PC days when phone and PDA were separate things. But it doesn't make much sense in today's world of smartphones. What you need to do is just run an Exchange server.
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yes I do sync calendar a few times a day, not every day but few days a week I have to do it, (busy schedule with many people with to many bloody meetings lol) yes I do have a cable to sync like the old days of pocket PC (am I that old ?) OK I have no idea how to do it with Exchange ActiveSync, I am going to Google it, if you have any links to some good sites I would a appreciated it,
thanks
Question ...
I thought of a possible solution but would love confirmation.
For purposes of at least a one time transition of the data from outlook (contacts / calendar) to GMAIL which would then be used on the Nexus, is there a way I can use my Droid Incredible as the middleman?
Since the data is already in the Incredible, is there a way to push it onto GMAIL, and then have the Nexus (if it ever comes out, and I don't get the Rezound instead of waiting for inifinity) pick it up?
Thanks