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Hi Guys,
There are so many threads and so many responses on those threads that it is really hard to zero in on what is working and what is not.
I would like to get the answer to one of these simple questions:
Is there a link to an official AT&T 8525 WM6 ROM flash?
If not, what WM6 download is available for the 8525?
I am looking for a download that you all feel is working well.
I see links that say official, but if it aint on the HTC site how official is it?
Thanks
VSGMan said:
Hi Guys,
There are so many threads and so many responses on those threads that it is really hard to zero in on what is working and what is not.
I would like to get the answer to one of these simple questions:
Is there a link to an official AT&T 8525 WM6 ROM flash?
If not, what WM6 download is available for the 8525?
I am looking for a download that you all feel is working well.
I see links that say official, but if it aint on the HTC site how official is it?
Thanks
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To answer your questions....
1. no
2. There are many.
3. This topic has been discussed time and time again. No one can tell you what the best rom for for your device is, because your rom choice is dependent on how you use your device. You have to read the posts in the forum and make your choice. Download and try a few.
4. I can not answer that question, but I can assure you the roms that say that are official are indeed that.
When the word "official" is used for the AT&T ROM, it is meant as one that was sent from HTC to AT&T for consideration and testing. It is not official in the sense that it is released to their customers.
In my test of many WM6 ROMs from this site, I have come across a few that worked really well for the 8525. Most of the Schap ROMs are good. My latest one is from another "cook" and this one is living up to all the hype of very fast and stable. Only 12 hours of testing so far, so too soon to pass judgment.
Check the posts and read for which one you may like best.
There is an unofficial official cingular wm6 Rom, it also increaces the cameras resolution to four megaoixels and increases the storage to 2 gigabytes.
Thats my point...too many choices.
Is there a WM6 flash that works well on the 8525, and is considered stable?
Is the flash for TYTN II appropriate for 8525?
VSGMan said:
Thats my point...too many choices.
Is there a WM6 flash that works well on the 8525, and is considered stable?
Is the flash for TYTN II appropriate for 8525?
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you cannot really tell what is best because everyone here has their own taste. youd have to try one ROM to another until you find one that you like best..
For the last 2 weeks, I've been reading the forum and waiting delivery on a unlocked/unbranded HTC TYTN with WM 5.0.
It appears the disadvantage of the AT&T release ROMs are speed and bloatware. I haven't seen any comments on the advantages or disadvantages of the official HTC WM 6.0 ROMs versus the cooked 6.0/6.1 ROMs.
Can anyone provide any comments on the official HTC ROMs? Sorry, if I missed it, but, I've been trying to cram as much knowledge as possible about this device and trying to make a decision on a cooked ROM or the official HTC one.
Thanks!
interesting
PJBHermes
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
NEW THREAD on​ Opinions on the default HTC TYTN WM 6.0 ROM
I bet you didn't read anything on the open forums and you just asked your humble question...
GUIDE: on this website there is something called WIKI which has all answers to all Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
I kindly ask the moderators to do 2 important things for our forum to keep it updated:
1- open a new thread and give it the name "SPAQ" (Seldom and Personal Asked Questions) to avoid openning new threads for questions like this one.
2- we have now 258 threads opened for Hermes and that makes searching for a solution never easy unless we delete the dead and inactive threads which exceed the 150 threads... unbelievable, isn't it?
thanks
PS sorry mate, I have nothing against you personally
Wow, it took all of 18 posts to obtain that attitude? I have bookmarked and read over 50 threads. I read the wiki, I read the AT&T HTC forums, I read the Howardforums, Aximsite/MobilitySite, this site and even joined HTC Club.
Many threads, tell you how fast a cooked ROM is or what apps are in the ROM, I don't see anyone saying anything about the performance of the default HTC ROMs besides AT&T ROMs stink. I haven't seen any threads on why some people actually prefer the default to cooked ROMs or vice versa.
Nothing against you, but if searching for a solution is never easy for a savvy veteran like yourself, what makes you think every visitor or new member will find exactly what they are looking for? Even in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390603&page=4, you mentioned sticking to the default HTC ROM, you didn't go into details? If you would have just given the reasons why you picked the default ROM, that would have been extremely helpful, instead you assume I'm lazy and went on your soapbox.
I hope you gain some tolerance by your 25th post.
Cheers
I've been running the default 6.0 since November. I've been thinking of going to a cooked 6.0 or 6.1 ROM but have not taken the plunge. I have yet to see one thread regarding any that did not have several "It HR every XXXX days/hrs/min etc.. "
As of now I've had my share of lockups but nothing that a soft reset did not fix. While the AT&T 6.0 may be full of bloat it is the most reliable as I have not seen anyone complain that it Hard Resets.
Hope that helps.
HeyKrop, thanks for the feedback. ExactlyThat was my concern and wondering if the default HTC ROM would be better than AT&T, but not equal to a cooked version.
Right now, I'm leading to HTC's ROM and was hoping to find a definitive difference between that version and any cooked ROM. I'll continue "searching the threads" before making my final decision.
Thanks for taking time out to help a newbie.
(sigh) yes another thread on noob flashing.. guess it's my turn!
Hello,
i've been flashin my hermes for a year now and my advice would be.:
JUMP IN! the water is great my friend.
if your into flashin roms and learning from (experience). This is a good place to be.
There is wonderful talent here in xda, and the share their findings for us to learn and try out.
Don't be scared man! Just flash away!!
I recommend start with stock rom.. the move up to cooked wm6, theeeennn to 6.1's.. by then you should know the in's and outs
of your phone.
check some of the older schaaps roms. also search for my personal fav blackdragon.. he did a masterful job on a wm6 rom.
then graduate to 6.1..
-peace and happy flashing!
also...
If i remember correctly if you do flash the official ATT rom, you can soft reset the device right before the Carrier specific customization begins and interrupt all the att bloat.
I repeat again my dear friend/brother/... I really have nothing against you personally, and I am myself not that expert to answer all questions from everybody. I have a device and I'm trying almost everything on it because I know I'm dealing with software issues and I can reset whenever I want... so no risk at all in "jumping into the water" (thanks Joshkoss) as long as you read the necessary step-by-step guides.
I'm sorry for my intolerance, I surely didn't mean it to be.
PS I'm not counting my posts
Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later
joshkoss said:
Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later
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I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs
all htc rom
htc tytn i want htc tytn 200
update rom plz help
farres said:
I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs
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he he he he , same here. i also did the same and after i installed hard spl. bcoz i wasn't aware of hardspl and i didn't read the deatils available in wiki section of hermes at that time.
also i agree with josh koss quote "jump in, water is great". i really do agree with him. but in my opinion there are alway some sort of bugs available in cooked roms and they are not perfect but the official roms are perfect and there is rare chance that there will be any bug in it. i've tried many cooked roms of 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5, but rite now i am using official HTC rom from last 3 weeks and i haven't face any problem yet.
but the decision is yours, so cheers
Sorry to waste a thread but I guess I have a point here:
Coming from Hermes and then Kasier communities (and flashing hundreds of SPL/Radio/Rom on my Hermes & Kaiser for many months) I thought that at least I am able to upgrade HardSpl or Radio or Rom on any PDA.
Now I've got my Diamond and entering the Diamond Rom dev I feel as if I've entered a new website.
What's going on here ? Chefs and developers have teamed up together and are divided into various groups competing with each other. Diamond rom dev is not having the cooperative feeling of Kaisr community at all.
There's no unified (bipartisan) thread for HardSpl. Each group is saying that our HardSpl is the best.
I understand that different ROM developers make different roms. But what about HardSpl and Radio ?
ROM threads are turned to Stickys???
Isn't it something new to this community?
Even HardSPl threads (directly or indirectly) direct us to certain ROM dev teams.
Am I the only person confused here ?
What happened to the bipartisan Moderators ABOVE rom chefs ?
In fact, as far as I can see, Chefs have become Mods and this weakens the unified and bipartisan feel we used to see in Hermes or Kaiser ...etc. communities and throughout the entire xda forum.
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
you are right
i am "just" a junior member, but if you check my account you can see i am here for a "longer" time.
so..
i came here from ARTEMIS threads and i feel the same as you but i did not want to mention it as a "junior member"
Old, well known, clever and cool guys went mad here in this section..
i am not sure why.
it "threatens me" a little bit, makes a pressure on me (sorry for poor english, i hope you can understand me.) i feel a little bit unconfortable. something like that.
This is why i made an own ROM based on STOCKs (thanks for HardSPL, for everybody who dumped the ROMs, etc..) and useing tweakapps.
(i don't want to use names....):
As i can see the guys who are makeing the tweaking apps are ok, but some of the guys who are cooking the ROMs has changed in this section.
anyway: ALL RESPECT for those who make DIAMOND better!!!!
wontcachme said:
I don't know how it was before, but i agree with you. Rom teams are popping like mushrooms and the threads keep getting bigger and bigger. For a newbie like mee i needed a couple of days just to read in to everything because of the lack of clearnes.
If the Rom Chefs just worked together and share idea's than this would be just great. Then it's also easier to make different languages. Now it salmost all the time WWE en nothing more because if someone wants to do that, they loose the competition of the fastest release.
Also the topic starts can be clearer. Enormous pictures, lettersize 18, etc.... does not help. I think there are some moderators needed here that restore order and are not Rom Chefs
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I'm afraid my point was not about lack of multilanguage roms ...etc.
I do NOT even want chefs to work together and make a brilliant rom for ME. The beauty of any Free Society is in its competition , diversity and plurality.
My point was something else - well I guess i mentioned it in my post
Yea I agree . I have been on these forums a while and this is a bit messy and I guess very daunting if you are a newbie.
1) Please Sticky the ROM Threads
2) Please sticky the RADIO Threads
3) Please Sticky the SPL Threads
Oh and please, please, please, lets start pulling our resources together . I love to try out all the ROMS and if we share our knowledge aren't we in a better position to get what we al want . The Pefect ROM !!
I know I'll probably get shot down in flames for this and my software dev knowledge you can right on a postage stamp but I do know about winning teams.
Bardia Garsha said:
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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You are not alone.
I Agree...
absolutely agree.
personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
Hear die well
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
I started with XDA Trion - Moved to TytnII and was pretty happy with the set directions- Mod support -bashing of newbies (myself included).
The Diamond ROM forum is "different":
- Not enough Mod's to have a closer look on garbage posted (Oliver- Mark...you do have my PM's )
- A lot of Newcomer's on the Diamond- a lot of reduntant threads.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already - But hey, we need them! So let's not complain - Competition is not bad bewtween them.
I called it already the "War of the Chefs" in a thread , so let us benefit of it though....---> TOO MANY Roms with mostly spin-off's of one build
I saw a message on BePe's thread from a guy asking for less ROM's but Final ones with bug's sorted out. For sure, no one is forced to Flash anyway, but it just fill's the thread's with 100.000.000 time WOW -Downloading now ! etc.
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback - advice and we don't ask for too much, cause it is free.
Anyway, again, I follow your reasoning and do hope first of all to see better Mod support on the Diamond forum. I know the guys are under-manned, so they should maybe look into a few new mod's (my time zone is very favorable to clean dirt between Australia and Birmingham - tip)
Cheerio
I do believe that we are only at the beginning of a Forum which will grow a LOT seeing the possibilites the Diamond can offer.
Bardia Garsha said:
Is it only me ? Are there any other confused members noticing that Diamond ROM Dev is taking an unusual direction?
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agreed. i started with Artemis, then TYTNII, now Diamond... and i have to say the Diamond part of the forums is a whole new beast
too many roms, so little time, are people forgetting that they purchased their devices so they can be used... its turning out that they are just being flashed constantly on a daily basis.
back in the hermes days, when roms were developed, updated roms would generally be released on a monthly basis after feedback was collected from peoples experiences with the current rom.
i still peek over here now and then to see whats up and it is a bit of a mess.
well, if the diamond forum is a mess, the touch pro will even be worse once wm7 beta is avail for it.
btw. im waiting for the touch pro and will be developing roms for it, but not wm6.1 roms as the kernel and OS itself is a pos.
I think the problem is the lack of structure. It's hard to tell which rom is new from which dev group. Everything is mixed up. A couple of rom devs started to put the date in front of a post with a new rom. I think that's the first step in the good direction.
Hmmm....
Listening........!
where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
ceevee369 said:
You got another yes behind your remarks- Said but true.
- INDEED, confusing HardSPL - ROM signed vs. non signed messages. Pointed out the (smallest) finger to the Chefs already
I believe that it is our duty as older dweilers to support the chefs in terms of newcomers direction set-up. They cook, we taste, we give feedback -
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haven't we been doing this in Kaiser & other communities ? just look how attentively we (as a little bit more senior members) try to reply and solve brand-new n00bs in other threads.
this thread is different. how can i help a n00b when i myself am too confused what HardSpl to flash ?
this seems to be the beginnig of a commercial rom movement. it's not mentioned directly anywhere, but throught the whole thread I can hear this loud & clear :
We left things complicated , jumbled and unclear so that if you want to know what the whole thing is about , you pay for it.
I tried to seach "How to Hard Reset Diamond" for an hour. couldn't find anything. it's my personal feeling : it's beginning to get commercial.
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personally i'd like to see one thread of hard-spls instead of 4 haha.. its quite cluttered..
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everybody like to see that. But don't you think there's a reason behind this confusion?
Unlike all the other threads, there's an apparent lack of Authoritative Voice in diamond thread.
i coul'dnt agree more, this forum so so messed up.
Even DEV-teams has split an releasing roms as team members of that dev-team, and another member of that team is filling that thread with content...WHUUUTT, i cant explain it properly so hard is it to understand.
I think we need mods to take control and tidy things up a bit.
My vision of the ideal Diamond forum
Sticky:
- SPL's(soft, hard), just one, not a dev and a signed.(al spl's work great so why have many of them)
- Radio's(thread starter sums them up in order of release date and build number)
- Rulez of engagement for everyone who want to post here
Rest:
- For each rom dev team(or single person) one thread with rom info and downloads and the thread title started with a date.
- For questions and such, search first and then ask(NOOBS)
Ill inform some mods here.
gr
If you've ever been in Kaiser's forum then you'll know what's the diff between many versions of SPL. I dont' see why it has to be one SPL only if others make some differences. JockyW2001 knows better. He's been cracking and modifying SPL versions for Kaisers' users. It doesn't mean that Oli is not a good developer. He's the one who started it. Only that now we have our options. It's not their fault if noobs get into trouble trying to understand all of the purposes.Do you know why? Laziness is not tolerable. Lazy to read...Lazy to search...bla..bla..bla...
Yeah! I like this forum clean but not to the extend of " You should not develope any alternative for us! We already have one here!" Now, go to Kaiser Forum and read. Go to Hermes forum and read. Go to other forums and read. This is XDA-Developers Site
Sorry, I said what I want to say.
Cyphol.
liamhere said:
where are the mods
we need someone to tidy the forum up
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No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
P1Tater said:
No-one has reported that it is needed.
I am willing to do the job, but I do not have a Diamond and will need some input as to what should be deleted, kept, stickied or whatever the case may be.
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Maybe a good topic to discuss "downstairs" first..
Isn't there a dedicated mod for the diamond-forums?
Or aren't there dedicated mods for the forums?
Nice job here, what can i say : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470757
But, i hope to not be miss understanded, all users need something like a 1-10 number of every rom.
For me , for example Natay 2.2 is counted like 10+ ( rapid, light ( 140/60 Mb free) from me, best battery life time > 3days , with radio DiamondRadio 1.09.25.23 ).
Hope down , it will be opinions for all the roms, from different users.
Have a nice day all, who read this.
Shaks.P v4.10 UC 5.2.21042 Light
i think it will be udk's and NATALY's rom
before this thread is locked, wanted to say It's this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498873
hands down
First a couple of guys will say "there's no best, dude, you have to try all by yourself", then a moderator or admin will pop out saying the same and lock the thread.
Cloudy v1.0 is very good. Stable and fast !!
For me it are AZATOR and NATALY.
The others are too far away from stock.
Dutty
Hi, I have tried some, but Dutty's latest is the one I settled with.
It's proven, reliable, and stable. From the numbers of replies and view on Dutty's thread, I am guessing it's the most used ROM. I am sure there are faster ones, but I got many programes on my device already, I am too lazy to switch now.
It would be gerat if we could take a poll. It shouldn't say WHAT IS THE BEST ROM? but WHAT ROM DO YOU LIKE (or USE)? is enough.
K
kennyk09 said:
Hi, I have tried some, but Dutty's latest is the one I settled with.
It's proven, reliable, and stable. From the numbers of replies and view on Dutty's thread, I am guessing it's the most used ROM. I am sure there are faster ones, but I got many programes on my device already, I am too lazy to switch now.
It would be gerat if we could take a poll. It shouldn't say WHAT IS THE BEST ROM? but WHAT ROM DO YOU LIKE (or USE)? is enough.
K
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Thats where the UC roms come in. Flashing a new ROM doesnt get any easier with restoring everything in the process.
New roms are what keeo the Diamond alive, why would u not want to keep something fresh and updated?
Im takin bets on how long b4 this thread is closed :d
PEOPLE USE THERE DIAMONDS FOR DIFFENT THINGS SO OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE OPINIONS ARE GUNNA DIFFER, THERE ARE A FEW ROMS I LIKE, SWTOS'S NAKED ROMS ARE GREAT AND SO IT UdK'S R4 ROM, makeveral'S BsB 6.5 ROM HAS ALL THE MARKINGS OF BEING THE FIRST GR8 WINMOB 6.5 ROM ON THE DIAMOND
The best rom for me to take the manila and menus rhodium, so for me the best have not yet released, if itje fixes bugs your rom 4.3 will undoubtedly be the best.
Very Stupid!
Hi all....
I just want to say that there is a reason why you all think this thread is going be closed, and so it should be!
There is NO BEST ROM! If you named the thread: 'Which ROM do you prefer and why', then you may get some good replies and some good pointers as to why people prefer certain ROMS - Speed, reliability...etc...
This thread is pointless!! I hate it when there is a reply saying 'Duttys ROM is the best' - How does this help anyone???
Why do you think it's the best? If people gave a decent reply then it would be much better.
nataly 2.5 ftw
simple, fast, best battery, lots of space and ram, customizable
rafabad said:
The best rom for me to take the manila and menus rhodium, so for me the best have not yet released, if itje fixes bugs your rom 4.3 will undoubtedly be the best.
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I agree. I like the Xbmod Manila, and the Touch-it 4.3 is super fast and stable. If all the small bugs can be fixed in the next release, it would be my favorite ROM for sure.
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this question is not welcome here...always ends in fighting.
thread closed.
Request for Mods
Would there be any chance of splitting this thread up into 3 sections
ie
Diamond rom development
+6.1 Roms
+6.5 Roms
+common rom development
I Personlaly think this would benifit everyone as not everyone Wishes to use 6.5 roms at the moment as they are not 100% stable and still in BETA
I suggest the common rom development for thing like packages/cabs file for things that work under both 6.1 and 6.5, kitchens Without any rom in the download (6.1 rom kitchens to the 6.1 thread etc)
Users please post your thoughts and maybe the mods might reorganize the thread to make it more user friendly for us thats if they don't agree with my thoughts.
I agree...
I'm up for this idea too. It's a pain trawling through so much info about the different ROM's. I think it would be great to have seperate forums for 6.1 and 6.5 - it would certainly make things a bit clearer and cleaner!
i think it would be awsome
Although the search button alleviates the need to divide and concur the threads, it is however a good idea for the times one surfs without provoking a specific topic....
If it's not too much work for the mod's, it would promote a more pleasurable surfing experience.
+1 from me
+ 1 here also.
Diamond roms are just so goddamn popular, and the chef's just keep rocking them out, so it is getting a little crowded in here!
+1 Here too.
Yes, definitely yes.
if using strictly syntax of threads than not needed.
to much themes that contains both will be lost.
and i think who can cooks etens pda ... they have really not needed differences between differences?!
what a good idea +1 from me
i'm with okokur,
as long as thread titles are properly named there shouldnt be an issue...
Well I do agree a seprate section would be good a lot of ROM's are coming out and it wud be a gud way to clean up the Diamond Forum.....
+1
@garymeg
I think a poll would be nice idea for your thread...
+1
I'd love separation 6.1 and 6.5
+1 from me too
Maybe create a poll?
Can we also have a thread for those users who keep asking the same old questions to post in pls? Wheat from the chaff and all that.
+1 here I was thinking the same thing
please remember
now 6.5 is here....all the 6.1 threads will drop down of the radar soon.
most will move onto 6.5.....so i its worth doing...IMO
all the chefs will move on and up....and old threads will drop down and off.
this is whats happened on all other threads and phones.
just let time take it course.
thank you
Great..!!
It will bring together people with similar interests.
So this will make it easier to develop n share things with more ease.
XDA ROCKS..!!
In my opinion the best thing to do would be to create a universal naming convention for ROM releases eg:
[ROM][Languages][Win *.*][UC][Title]
or something along those lines.