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which wm6 is the best? most oem"ish"

So I have a bone stock 8525, well its been unlocked, but thats it. Ive been told the actual phone control on wm6 is better than wm5. Which in your opinion is the best? Most non programer friendly and is oemish in other words stable. Im not looking to hot rod it just basic apps.
Thanks in advanced!!

they are all good in their own right. you will have to try them out for yourself to see which one you like. As many will tell you here. before you go doing anything, read the whole thread for that rom. then read the guides and wiki. Then you will be ready to try them out! good luck and enjoy. i m sure you will love whichever rom you choose!

Black Shadow is very good for me (Vario II, T-Mobile UK). Very stable and reasonably fast.

hondaguyjoe said:
So I have a bone stock 8525, well its been unlocked, but thats it. Ive been told the actual phone control on wm6 is better than wm5. Which in your opinion is the best? Most non programer friendly and is oemish in other words stable. Im not looking to hot rod it just basic apps.
Thanks in advanced!!
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another useless thread - they all have different pros and cons - delete the thread

just close the thread...better, delete it so its not visible

Your answer is here
Check this thread for the easy answer you seek:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313701
We all discussed this seriously only a few days ago. I'm surprised the search function screwed up again.
Sleuth ... if you would ... kindly ... again?
Thanks,
-pvs

Black Majik, the most stable and fast-responsive ROM, with HTC Home plug-in.

wow some of you guys are pretty harsh. Thanks to the others for there in site. I did do a search of words like best and favorite and stable and I didnt come up with much. Im new to the board so just a few days ago was non existent to me.
I figured they did have pros and cons hence asking which were like oem and stable.

If you are on Cingular VP3gs rom is outstanding. Otherwise read all the threads a few times and do about a few days of research before upgrading. If you don't follow the instructions properly don't be surpised if you brick your phone. Follow them and you shouldn't have any problems.

Thanks Aridon thats the first one I will start with.

Buth VP3G and Custel do awesome ROMs for Cingular, they are both very stable, and really comes down to personal preference between the two. If you're going to be using bluetooth devices I would look at VP3G's 2.0h which is a hybrid of other ROMs to incorporate better bluetooth performance.

Advice On Rom Please

Hi guys im currently using the Athena @ the moment and no much choice in ROMS ive just upgraded the contract for my misses and got a o2 xda orbit will be running with Vodaphone Sim and a 1GB mico SD its a great phone and theres an amazing amount of ROMS on here she isnt as technically minded as me and i want a Rom thats Cool, functional and with a simple interface she's by no means stupid as uses mine every now and then but dont want a Rom thats buggy etc Any one advise a good simple stable Rom to use I Know its a personal choice but i would appreciate some advice... Thanks Guys

It's all a matter of preference as they are all good, except the official O2 ROM. Meschle's look the nicest and have some really good toys especially his new Vanilla (with cherry) release, but I personally prefer Tom Codon's Black and Blue series.
I'd would wait for his 4.2 release, but if you can't wait, then 4.0 is great. I tried 4.1, but the infamous 'storage card' bug did put me off a little. I try most of the ROM's, but I am getting counseling for this addiction.

thank you for the advice the touch and black and blue roms took my fancy so will probably try one of these... Thanks again

mike996 said:
It's all a matter of preference as they are all good, except the official O2 ROM. Meschle's look the nicest and have some really good toys especially his new Vanilla (with cherry) release, but I personally prefer Tom Codon's Black and Blue series.
I'd would wait for his 4.2 release, but if you can't wait, then 4.0 is great. I tried 4.1, but the infamous 'storage card' bug did put me off a little. I try most of the ROM's, but I am getting counseling for this addiction.
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what do you mean with cherry? and which rom you talking abotu can you link to it please

magpie2000k said:
what do you mean with cherry? and which rom you talking abotu can you link to it please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531

athanaso77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531
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Thanks for that but what is Cherry?
cheers mate

magpie2000k said:
Thanks for that but what is Cherry?
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Just read the linked thread and you will find the answer there.

ctibor said:
Just read the linked thread and you will find the answer there.
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Mate having gone through pages on pages I can only see cherry referred to in POLL but it is closed, Please help
am I blind
or just mad

In this case 'cherry' means that Meschle took the original WM6 OEM rom, made by Microsoft and --instead of adding a lot of fancy and sophisticated progs-- just added the fresh versions of some really useful utilities (as he put it in the first post of the related thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531 See the bullet points!)
So, it's a quite simple rom, but enhanced with his cherry picking amongst the wide variety of apps that make the usage of our Artemis easier and more effective.
At least I see this way... (I'm far from being an expert).

The official HTC Europe WM6 rom has just been released (see a lot of fresh thread abuot it).
So, if you are cautious (I am), I suggest you to flash your Orbit with this rom. It must be stable and more or less bug-free (but certainly there is no guarantee...)
And later you can switch to a cooked one, if you wish so.
But be aware: first you should run USPL! See thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403

ctibor said:
The official HTC Europe WM6 rom has just been released (see a lot of fresh thread abuot it).
So, if you are cautious (I am), I suggest you to flash your Orbit with this rom. It must be stable and more or less bug-free (but certainly there is no guarantee...)
And later you can switch to a cooked one, if you wish so.
But be aware: first you should run USPL! See thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403
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thank you but dont worry im no noob when it comes to flashing, im on my 5th pda device, i had one when the format was 1st released back in the 90's ive installed the touch 2.1 rom and it is superb thanks for all your help and guidance every one.... loving this phone and the great choice in roms just have to hand it over to my wife...

Opinions on the default HTC TYTN WM 6.0 ROM

For the last 2 weeks, I've been reading the forum and waiting delivery on a unlocked/unbranded HTC TYTN with WM 5.0.
It appears the disadvantage of the AT&T release ROMs are speed and bloatware. I haven't seen any comments on the advantages or disadvantages of the official HTC WM 6.0 ROMs versus the cooked 6.0/6.1 ROMs.
Can anyone provide any comments on the official HTC ROMs? Sorry, if I missed it, but, I've been trying to cram as much knowledge as possible about this device and trying to make a decision on a cooked ROM or the official HTC one.
Thanks!

interesting
PJBHermes
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1
NEW THREAD on​ Opinions on the default HTC TYTN WM 6.0 ROM
I bet you didn't read anything on the open forums and you just asked your humble question...
GUIDE: on this website there is something called WIKI which has all answers to all Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
I kindly ask the moderators to do 2 important things for our forum to keep it updated:
1- open a new thread and give it the name "SPAQ" (Seldom and Personal Asked Questions) to avoid openning new threads for questions like this one.
2- we have now 258 threads opened for Hermes and that makes searching for a solution never easy unless we delete the dead and inactive threads which exceed the 150 threads... unbelievable, isn't it?
thanks
PS sorry mate, I have nothing against you personally

Wow, it took all of 18 posts to obtain that attitude? I have bookmarked and read over 50 threads. I read the wiki, I read the AT&T HTC forums, I read the Howardforums, Aximsite/MobilitySite, this site and even joined HTC Club.
Many threads, tell you how fast a cooked ROM is or what apps are in the ROM, I don't see anyone saying anything about the performance of the default HTC ROMs besides AT&T ROMs stink. I haven't seen any threads on why some people actually prefer the default to cooked ROMs or vice versa.
Nothing against you, but if searching for a solution is never easy for a savvy veteran like yourself, what makes you think every visitor or new member will find exactly what they are looking for? Even in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390603&page=4, you mentioned sticking to the default HTC ROM, you didn't go into details? If you would have just given the reasons why you picked the default ROM, that would have been extremely helpful, instead you assume I'm lazy and went on your soapbox.
I hope you gain some tolerance by your 25th post.
Cheers

I've been running the default 6.0 since November. I've been thinking of going to a cooked 6.0 or 6.1 ROM but have not taken the plunge. I have yet to see one thread regarding any that did not have several "It HR every XXXX days/hrs/min etc.. "
As of now I've had my share of lockups but nothing that a soft reset did not fix. While the AT&T 6.0 may be full of bloat it is the most reliable as I have not seen anyone complain that it Hard Resets.
Hope that helps.

HeyKrop, thanks for the feedback. ExactlyThat was my concern and wondering if the default HTC ROM would be better than AT&T, but not equal to a cooked version.
Right now, I'm leading to HTC's ROM and was hoping to find a definitive difference between that version and any cooked ROM. I'll continue "searching the threads" before making my final decision.
Thanks for taking time out to help a newbie.

(sigh) yes another thread on noob flashing.. guess it's my turn!
Hello,
i've been flashin my hermes for a year now and my advice would be.:
JUMP IN! the water is great my friend.
if your into flashin roms and learning from (experience). This is a good place to be.
There is wonderful talent here in xda, and the share their findings for us to learn and try out.
Don't be scared man! Just flash away!!
I recommend start with stock rom.. the move up to cooked wm6, theeeennn to 6.1's.. by then you should know the in's and outs
of your phone.
check some of the older schaaps roms. also search for my personal fav blackdragon.. he did a masterful job on a wm6 rom.
then graduate to 6.1..
-peace and happy flashing!

also...
If i remember correctly if you do flash the official ATT rom, you can soft reset the device right before the Carrier specific customization begins and interrupt all the att bloat.

I repeat again my dear friend/brother/... I really have nothing against you personally, and I am myself not that expert to answer all questions from everybody. I have a device and I'm trying almost everything on it because I know I'm dealing with software issues and I can reset whenever I want... so no risk at all in "jumping into the water" (thanks Joshkoss) as long as you read the necessary step-by-step guides.
I'm sorry for my intolerance, I surely didn't mean it to be.
PS I'm not counting my posts

Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later

joshkoss said:
Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later
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I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs

all htc rom
htc tytn i want htc tytn 200
update rom plz help

farres said:
I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs
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he he he he , same here. i also did the same and after i installed hard spl. bcoz i wasn't aware of hardspl and i didn't read the deatils available in wiki section of hermes at that time.

also i agree with josh koss quote "jump in, water is great". i really do agree with him. but in my opinion there are alway some sort of bugs available in cooked roms and they are not perfect but the official roms are perfect and there is rare chance that there will be any bug in it. i've tried many cooked roms of 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5, but rite now i am using official HTC rom from last 3 weeks and i haven't face any problem yet.
but the decision is yours, so cheers

Opinions regarding The best WM 6.1 ROM ??

Hi Everyone,
Can you kindly share your opinions about the best WM 6.1 ROM out there please ? Is there a 6.1 cooked ROM which comes close to the ROMS Schapps produced ? Personally I would prefer a stable , fast and bug free ROM rather than a glossy one with a plethora of 3rd party applications.
I have tried the Starbase S64 Manilla 2d rom but after a few hours of usage realise that it is not one I could keep for long due to problems with stability , speed and memory usage and several language bugs (German instead of English in Calendar, Maps etc)
Cheers !

the only way
To come up with an opinion is trying every single one, and decide what fits your needs.
We have benchmarks that has been done by Veyka on the sticky. And I have come up with two of my favourites on my signature, until you have flashed every single one (and I may add a good flash takes time) you won't be able to come up with any opinion at all!
Edit also there is an FAQ thread on the sticky.
Cheers and happy flashing!

Flash flash flash and compare, There's not much else to say.
We all do different things with our phone, I like CRC's, other people like PDAcorners, the almostnaked and anryl roms are good as well!
There all good! Just aim for a lite rom if your looking for something empty.
Also dont forget to flash a shipped rom if your going between Bigstorage roms.

please state your favourite
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.

[email protected] said:
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.
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the exhaustive comparison has been done right here.

Zocster is right, I have flashed many of the roms on this great site and the ones in his signature are top notch. although I really like MRH 8.4 sun shower as well due to its design and fit and finish. every rom is good though and I find it thoroughly enjoyable to test them out.

[email protected] said:
Hi,
If you have tried a few 6.1 ROMS please simply state your favourite. Or if you are just happy with any particular ROM share its identity with us. An exhaustive comparison is not necessary
Cheers.
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Ill retread my own work..
Myself, Im a CRC fanboy
PDAcorner if you like the icons
Dvha, good, fast, not always sure what they are upto though!
The newer chefs are as good as the pros in many respects!
Almost naked or Starbase64's new roms have TF2D in them! (Just as easy to cab install though)
Loaded roms are slower.
Bigstorage roms are faster but need more care.

quick question
I havent tried Anyrl roms yet because they are czech only, is this correct?

rileyd5 said:
I havent tried Anyrl roms yet because they are czech only, is this correct?
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Nope, there not, his kitchen is WEE, and as is his older roms.
I tested them all, they where very good!
Hes just currently actively working on the Czech roms thats all.

rileyd5 said:
Zocster is right, I have flashed many of the roms on this great site and the ones in his signature are top notch. although I really like MRH 8.4 sun shower as well due to its design and fit and finish. every rom is good though and I find it thoroughly enjoyable to test them out.
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yeah well the traitor has left us mind you DVH is getting better and better.
Oh hang on here is Anryl's WWE

veyka said:
Nope, there not, his kitchen is WEE, and as is his older roms.
I tested them all, they where very good!
Hes just currently actively working on the Czech roms thats all.
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thanks for the clarification, I will do some searches for older Anyrl roms.

zocster said:
yeah well the traitor has left us mind you DVH is getting better and better.
Oh hang on here is Anryl's WWE
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cool! I will check it out.

yep, the above are correct...flash away
oh, and be prepared to answer the same question tomorrow

galaxys said:
oh, and be prepared to answer the same question tomorrow
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lol you funny

Install Tilt WinMob 6.1 on 8525 what if?

What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.

nismo00 said:
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.

i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?

first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.

well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.

You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know

GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye

nismo00 said:
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!

Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.

I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!

Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
nismo00 said:
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.

I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....

Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!

Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...