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IPL.SPL help!

Ok my screen broke today. Took it out of my pocket and it had cracked
Is there any app I can install on my phone to see the IPL and SPL versions? Or is there any other way I can fine out what I have?

yes there is an app called wiki search and i heard it works perfectly
anyhow press and hold left ok key + da power button and then use ur stylus to press down the soft reset key that should take you to da bootloader screen

Going into the bootloader to see this info is pointless. Screen is cracked and I cant see anything.

Go to the bootloader screen. Uncheck "allow USB" in Active Sync. Connect your unit with USB cable. (Download and) run MTTY program, choosing your unit, (not a comm port) for connection. Hit ENTER, to get a cmd prompt. Type "info 7" without the quotes. It will show you the bootloader info.
Examples:
USB>info 7
HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.50a
Device Name: H, Bootloader Version : 1.04
Built at: May 26 2006 20:17:35
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
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Have you tried "My Mobiler"? I got it from pocketpcfreewares - I'm sure it can be found elsewhere too. It includes the ability to view your phone screen right on your desktop PC, and should help you get through your current dilemma.

HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.50a
Device Name: H, Bootloader Version : 1.04
Built at: May 26 2006 20:17:35
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
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That is what I get. I downgraded from oli pro to SPL 1.04 so I am guessing this is correct?

is it safe to downgrade? Can I get my warranty if I downgrade to the original SPL?

Good luck having a cracked screen covered by warranty...

Yeah I know. Maybe I wont tell them the screen is cracked and just say it wont come one anymore that there is no light. I disabled the back light so it wont turn on except only on a reset. If it wont come on then how will I know its cracked?? Worth a shot I guess.

Phantisy said:
Yeah I know. Maybe I wont tell them the screen is cracked and just say it wont come one anymore that there is no light. I disabled the back light so it wont turn on except only on a reset. If it wont come on then how will I know its cracked?? Worth a shot I guess.
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It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
Zuckron said:
is it safe to downgrade? Can I get my warranty if I downgrade to the original SPL?
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Well, we would need some more info, like what your Hermes' problem is, but read the MrVanx downgrade guide and it is pretty safe. It is definitely best to downgrade back before sending it in, if you have a warranty replacement issue.

todd_jg said:
It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
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Well I was hoping that they would just send me a replacement and not ask many questions since "I can't see anything" on the screen. I have no idea how the warranty works on these things.

todd_jg said:
It is a good bet that a reset will be part of their diagnostic procedure.
If you are feeling really daring, just brick it before sending it back. One way to ensure that they cannot boot it is to overwrite the IPL/SPL with a bad file. I would certainly not ADVOCATE such things, but it would probably be highly effective to ensure they do not get the thing booted. Of course, you never will either.
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You wouldn't happen to have a "bad" file anywhere that I could download. I am daring enough to try this. I got the phone from wirefly (don't bash me please) and they are sending me a replacement. I don't know what kinda techs they have. They said all they check for when they receive the phone is all the contents in the box and nothing else but I don't trust that. Bricking it would be a good way to ensure they don't see the screen.

Phantisy said:
You wouldn't happen to have a "bad" file anywhere that I could download. I am daring enough to try this. I got the phone from wirefly (don't bash me please) and they are sending me a replacement. I don't know what kinda techs they have. They said all they check for when they receive the phone is all the contents in the box and nothing else but I don't trust that. Bricking it would be a good way to ensure they don't see the screen.
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Well, the easiest way is to make sure that HardSPL is not on there and then build your own file using Dutty's god NBH tool. Just create an NBH for a IPL.SPL flash and reverse the files. In other words, instead of putting the SPL.nb in where the IPL should be and vice versa. I assure you, they would not be able to boot the phone. I know this because I did this *on accident* one time and completely bricked the phone. Completely unrecoverable! To the point that the LED did not even come on to indicate that the phone was plugged in. It was well and truly dead. Again, I would not really advocate doing this type of thing, only pointing out that it will most certainly render your phone completely and irretrievably dead.

Alright. I am thinking hard about this because if they can see the screen is cracked (Can be done in the right light at the right angle) then they might send it back and I don't want to be stuck with the bricked phone. Would be cheaper to void the warranty and replace the screen on my own. Thanks for the info though.

I have to push my qwerty keyboard bottons REAL hard to make them working. This is a problem that came resently. Please, can someone give me a link to the spl downgrade guide? I can't find it. And to be honest, i do not understand how i should use the wiki correct yet.

Zuckron said:
I have to push my qwerty keyboard bottons REAL hard to make them working. This is a problem that came resently. Please, can someone give me a link to the spl downgrade guide? I can't find it. And to be honest, i do not understand how i should use the wiki correct yet.
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Follow this guide EXACTLY and you will be able to downgrade.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27

but my original spl was 1.11 . . What should I do? Downgrade to 1.06 and then upgrade? And where do I find the files I need?

Zuckron said:
but my original spl was 1.11 . . What should I do? Downgrade to 1.06 and then upgrade? And where do I find the files I need?
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Your IPL was not 1.11 - i was prolly 1.01.
There are links to necessary files in the guide.

The original IPL and SPL on my AT&T 8525 was:
IPL-1.03
SPL-1.11
These were the original on 2 8525's I have had.

Do As I Did
I had a qtek 9100 with a smashed screen that i could not recur to the warranties because of the ROM plus other things, the only way was to change the screen was on my own, using the service manual (and it was easier than i thought) now i have a tytn but my old 9100 still works at 100% ps: GOOD LUCK

Diamond dead after free unlocker

I tried to unlock MDA compact IV (DIAM200) with free software and now phone totally dead. Can't enter bootloader mode and can't detect by USB. Anybody can help me?

it sounds like youre phone is bricked do you have warranty left?

I would make somthing up like you plugged it into the wall to charge, it turned off and never came back on and send it back to Tmobile they are stupid in the UK cs team.

Try This...it worked for Some
Step 1:
If dead try…holding the power button, volume down and hard reset button at the same time...
Step 2:
If you can see the bootloader again and (you have to quickly flashed it because it will only sync for few secs)
Step 3:
Quickly flashed a fresh copy of olipro hardspl and it will be back to life
Step 4:
Now u can flashed your new rom as a you did before
Hope this works for you...

99% you flashed the unlocker from PPCgeeks, which is an spl for CDMA phones and it bricks the GSM Diamond SOLID. If it; on guarantee send it promptly - in most cases they can't see the reason why it is bricked, and replace the mainboard.
Good luck.

shove 240v up the usb then they'll never see what you did to it

your diamond is as dead as it could be
i also tried the ppcgeeks software for cdma and my phone was completely bricked. i didnt know the differende then between the cdma and the gsm phone. we'll.... now i know!!!

I´ll bet he did not read the warning or the instuctions right,like they say ""They all wanna ride the bicycle ,but some don´t know where the brakes are"" Geeks forum is any how just about cmda phones ,well to 95%

There might be another option, now or soon, for bricked diamonds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434535&page=2

In Desperate Need of Shipped ROM for HTC Touch Diamond

Hi I have recently tried to flash my Touch Diamond ROM, messed the hell out of it and, the only way to fix it is to flash it with the original stock ROM that it came with. Could anyone please help me with this.
HTC Touch Diamond P3700
Rom SPL 1.93
CID HTC_017
The phone was not branded straight from the manufacturer.
The problem is that I tried to flash the phone without doing hard SPL
Cleaned the whole phone and the only thing working now is the connection to the computer Trough mtty. I tried using other ROMS but they stop at 1% and gave me a vendor incorect error or something.

just download it from htc site

I tried but when I select the Serial number it says that the update is not for my phone and doesn't let me download it. and the ones that they have are only updates.

Does anyone have a valid Serial Number that i can use to download update ROM from HTC?

Have you tried any official roms posted around here? like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720

I did that but it started to load the roam into the phone and crashed at 1%,
it gave "Invalid Vendor Id" error and it turns off. Is there like a unversal HTC rom that at very least gets me access to the NANd Memory
I just want to HArd_spl the phone and install a new ROm
Dont even care about the original ROM any more

ekirakosyan said:
I did that but it started to load the roam into the phone and crashed at 1%,
it gave "Invalid Vendor Id" error and it turns off. Is there like a unversal HTC rom that at very least gets me access to the NANd Memory
I just want to HArd_spl the phone and install a new ROm
Dont even care about the original ROM any more
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Try that one HT828GN27034 and let me know the result.

Oh very nice, thank U very much, I'll try it right now.

All of the Upgrade ROMs just give me invalid Vender ID error message
Doesn't make sense to me though, i tried flashing the Phone With Hard-SPL but for some odd reason it hangs at 0%.
Is my phone dead for good or there might be a way to fix this issue

did u installed OLINEX first?
If ur phone is in 3 color screen try to install Olinex 1.4 and after that flash it with stock ROM.

No thats the thing, I Just Cleaned the phone with Mtty and tried to flash it with WM6.5. but after the cleaning nothing really work out. and i cant even go back to the the old Rom cose I did not back it up.

ekirakosyan said:
No thats the thing, I Just Cleaned the phone with Mtty and tried to flash it with WM6.5. but after the cleaning nothing really work out. and i cant even go back to the the old Rom cose I did not back it up.
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not even hard reset? did u tried?

yeah man i tried hard reset too, that was no go, I wish there was a way to remove the CID Lock

ekirakosyan said:
yeah man i tried hard reset too, that was no go, I wish there was a way to remove the CID Lock
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What windows are you using?

I am using windows 7, but i tried the same process on vista and XP, same result, the phone connects to the pc, and right as i try to load one of the ROMs from HTC's website, the thing crashes at 1% and says invalid vendor ID error.
IS there a universal ROM that can be loaded, or my phone is bricked for good?

Perhaps you want to have a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
Succes!

Oh wow this place has every ROM type but mine, so not fare, u think if i download and try every one of these other ones I might have some sort of luck?
I used HTC's MTTY and figuered that My CID is HTC__017, and the 1.93 Spl
and mine is not listed there.

Hey, I have the EXACT same problem. My diamond is the US 3G Unbranded phone (DIAM110, CID=HTC__017). I've both called and emailed HTC asking for the ROM, but they say that they do not have it. The only way to get it would be to request it from the vendor you bought it from. I got mine as a gift so I can't really do that. Oh, and if you want them to flash it for you, you have to pay like $160. Not cheap. And you know HTC, they'll make up that your main board's fried, and ask you to pay $300. If you have WARRANTY, send ASAP. Mine expired a week ago.
As for flashing random ROMs, most likely this will not work (although you can try). The way your phone determines if it's allowed to install the ROM is by looking at the beginning of the file. If you open up the NBH with an editor, you can see and even change the ID. The problem is, HTC "signs" the file with a 2048 RSA key (2^2048), and if you even change one digit then the signature will be invalid.
So yes, I have the exact same problem, my thread is at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623320, so if you have any luck, or I do, check out that thread.
At this point, the only things that are left to do are to beg HTC or a vendor for the ROM update (I might find HTC developer's mailing address and ask them); find a way to get into Soft SPL, or in other words load into memory a bootloader that would allow flashing of unsigned code; or find a vulnerability that would allow flashing unsigned code (has been done with Trinity).
Also you can try contacting Olipro, cmonex, and pof, but I so far have had no luck.
Hopefully we'll find something.
~codeslicer

Hey man, thanks for the reply, we are pretty much on the same exact boat, am gonna try to contact HTC see if my warranty is still up, and the phone i got it as a gift, I don't have a recipt of a proof of purchase, what do u think i should tell them. And if that doesn't work, I think I am going to try every single 1.93 ROM
in this site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
And also what is your CID. if its HTC_017 then its not here, but there are a lot of them in here so u might get some luck.
let me know how it goes man.

I think i have the solution
can u please confirm clearly as what has happened , hope i have the specific solution .

Afrter fake HardSPL, Phone is dead

I've mistakenly upload HardSPL from Mega-Touch2 ...
Phone is not react on nothing
i've try soft and hard reset, phone is dead ...
is there any solution ?

JFH said:
I've mistakenly upload HardSPL from Mega-Touch2 ...
Phone is not react on nothing
i've try soft and hard reset, phone is dead ...
is there any solution ?
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Use it as a paperweight?
Seriously, though, the only way to recover from that, if it won't do anything, is a JTAG recovery. See if any of your local electronics dealers can do it for you. Otherwise, it might be better for you to get a new one...

i've try to do something with mtty usb
but "ub port can not open".
i disabled usb connection in w7pro

JFH said:
i've try to do something with mtty usb
but "ub port can not open".
i disabled usb connection in w7pro
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It isn't going to work. You have the wrong SPL flashed to it. The SPL is what loads up EVERYTHING in the device and makes it all play nicely together. You won't be able to recover via USB. JTAG is the only option, but it isn't something you will be able to do, I would imagine.

service said,procesor is fake
they said, "we try few times with 3 different recovery tools, in 75% phone go down"
is this possible, procesor is death ?

JFH said:
service said,procesor is fake
they said, "we try few times with 3 different recovery tools, in 75% phone go down"
is this possible, procesor is death ?
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I've already said that your problem is that you flashed the wrong SPL. The device is dead. Get a new one.

Think of this as an opportunity to get a new phone and a lesson learned.
I gave my old broken Nokia to my nephew and he plays with it all the time. Silly kid thinks he can make calls from it.

JFH said:
service said,procesor is fake
they said, "we try few times with 3 different recovery tools, in 75% phone go down"
is this possible, procesor is death ?
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This is the ugly truth that you have to face with it. I'm sorry to hear that.
Try a new phone right now, use the old dead one as a paperweight like others have said.

Replace the mainboard, you bricked the device.

Okay, i can not understand this guy.
Can someone translate to proper english if you understand?
What has he done?

ryannathans said:
Okay, i can not understand this guy.
Can someone translate to proper english if you understand?
What has he done?
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He flashed the Hard SPL from the HTC Mega (Touch 2) to his HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro2). Doing this bricked his device. The only solution is to either J-TAG it to recover directly, replace the mainboard, or replace the whole device. Since the OP flashed the wrong SPL, I am assuming that he is probably not qualified or capable of J-TAG or mainboard replacement (I mean no offense to the OP). This is why I simply stated that he just get a new one.
The moral of the story is to read carefully before doing any of this stuff for this very reason. He now has a $300 paper weight.

cajunflavoredbob said:
He flashed the Hard SPL from the HTC Mega (Touch 2) to his HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro2). Doing this bricked his device. The only solution is to either J-TAG it to recover directly, replace the mainboard, or replace the whole device. Since the OP flashed the wrong SPL, I am assuming that he is probably not qualified or capable of J-TAG or mainboard replacement (I mean no offense to the OP). This is why I simply stated that he just get a new one.
The moral of the story is to read carefully before doing any of this stuff for this very reason. He now has a $300 paper weight.
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Ahh, makes sense now.
As long as you sit in the right forum you should be fine OP

Didnt realise there was no way to recover it once it is bricked. I tend to be really careful but I still worry when flashing my phone. Makes me scared to do it on my next phone now knowing its game over if I do something wrong.

fade2black101 said:
Didnt realise there was no way to recover it once it is bricked. I tend to be really careful but I still worry when flashing my phone. Makes me scared to do it on my next phone now knowing its game over if I do something wrong.
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You'll be just fine if you read carefully before flashing. The OP's problem was that he flashed a SPL from a completely different device. If he had done something wrong with the Rhodium software, then we could have helped him recover. As long as you stick to stuff to your device, you should be fine.

fade2black101 said:
Didnt realise there was no way to recover it once it is bricked.
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That's what a brick is, a paperweight. Useless and unrecoverable, that's the main point in calling it a "brick". Some have defined a brick as unrecoverable w/o opening up the phone. And some use terms like "semi-brick". But the "semi-brick" distinction in particular seems silly. If you can recover from it fairly easily, than its not a brick. You just hit a roadbump,and then you figured it out.
The OP is screwed because he messed with the SPL, and as cajun said, the SPL is what loads EVERYTHING else. If you are just flashing ROMs and whatnot, even a bad flash is easy to recover from. As long as you can get into bootloader, you're fine. Just flash a known good ROM.

redpoint73 said:
That's what a brick is, a paperweight. Useless and unrecoverable, that's the main point in calling it a "brick". Some have defined a brick as unrecoverable w/o opening up the phone. And some use terms like "semi-brick". But the "semi-brick" distinction in particular seems silly. If you can recover from it fairly easily, than its not a brick. You just hit a roadbump,and then you figured it out.
The OP is screwed because he messed with the SPL, and as cajun said, the SPL is what loads EVERYTHING else. If you are just flashing ROMs and whatnot, even a bad flash is easy to recover from. As long as you can get into bootloader, you're fine. Just flash a known good ROM.
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Is this covered in the warranty? lol

I can recover hard bricked phones including the TP2 and many other devices using JTAG. PM me with any questions about a bricked Tp2.

[Q] Possible to brick phone without root???

SWIM wants to know if there is a way to brick an unrooted AT&T HOX that is on 2.20 firmware purposely. And if so, how? Thanks in advance fellow xda members...

i think yes but you would need an s-off(doesn't break warranty) phone or unlocked bootloader(breaks warranty) in s-on, how ?
im not sure, but pulling usb out while flashing an ruu will most likely do it.
The real and interesting question would be why ?

Vcek said:
i think yes but you would need an s-off(doesn't break warranty) phone or unlocked bootloader(breaks warranty) in s-on, how ?
im not sure, but pulling usb out while flashing an ruu will most likely do it.
The real and interesting question would be why ?
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S-OFF is still a WIP so that's a no and it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader either. It's stock, brand new out of the box from AT&T and the HOX the rep gave us had 2.20 already on it...
Me n my pal are working on a little experiment, if it works, we'll tell you guys all about it. Also, been reading thru the thinktank trying to brainstorm some ideas for root also...
the lack of a removable battery makes bricking it a less of a possibility.. =/
pulling the usb mid disk transfer of a file wouldn't do anything but make the file corrupt and unusable, right?

doubledrake20 said:
S-OFF is still a WIP so that's a no and it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader either. It's stock, brand new out of the box from AT&T and the HOX the rep gave us had 2.20 already on it...
Me n my pal are working on a little experiment, if it works, we'll tell you guys all about it. Also, been reading thru the thinktank trying to brainstorm some ideas for root also...
the lack of a removable battery makes bricking it a less of a possibility.. =/
pulling the usb mid disk transfer of a file wouldn't do anything but make the file corrupt and unusable, right?
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What level of "bricked" are you looking for ? 1- can't be fixed by just a personal computer or 2-as useful as a piece of rock ?
Type 1: Removing the usb while flashing a radio/kernel update(using ruu.exe flasher from htc) will cause a corrupt bootloader/kernel and the phone might not be able to start the hardware (and hence bricked i guess)
to brick it you would have to make the bootloader(hardware) unable to recover itself,
Type 2:
if you really want it hard-bricked you can just connect all connectors on the motherboard randomly with a metal foil/wool.(tryed it on my laptop and worked)
EDIT: the bios chip was already soft-bricked due to a non-compatible feature that didn't allow my RAM to start, although motherboard WAS powering on)
You know its almost impossible to brick a phone as long as the hardware is ok, whether rooted or not. As manufacturers can flash stuff directly onto the chip.

Vcek said:
What level of "bricked" are you looking for ? 1- can't be fixed by just a personal computer or 2-as useful as a piece of rock ?
Type 1: Removing the usb while flashing a radio/kernel update(using ruu.exe flasher from htc) will cause a corrupt bootloader/kernel and the phone might not be able to start the hardware (and hence bricked i guess)
to brick it you would have to make the bootloader(hardware) unable to recover itself,
Type 2:
if you really want it hard-bricked you can just connect all connectors on the motherboard randomly with a metal foil/wool.(tryed it on my laptop and worked)
EDIT: the bios chip was already soft-bricked due to a non-compatible feature that didn't allow my RAM to start, although motherboard WAS powering on)
You know its almost impossible to brick a phone as long as the hardware is ok, whether rooted or not. As manufacturers can flash stuff directly onto the chip.
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hmm.. good info, the case is fairly easy to remove without doing any physical damage to it. So just some foil to the connectors touching each other should short circuit it... that might work.
I can't flash a kernel or anything because it isn't rooted and can't root it either cause there isn't an exploit yet.
I'll try the foil out n see how that works.
Thanks dude.

doubledrake20 said:
hmm.. good info, the case is fairly easy to remove without doing any physical damage to it. So just some foil to the connectors touching each other should short circuit it... that might work.
I can't flash a kernel or anything because it isn't rooted and can't root it either cause there isn't an exploit yet.
I'll try the foil out n see how that works.
Thanks dude.
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I think you can flash an RUU without rooting (you CAN'T flash an ruu with the bootloader UNLOCKED, not sure will work with "locked" but definitely will work with "relocked")
And for trying out the foil, i recommend you to be very careful as the warranty can be void by just opening the case(says so in manual)