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Should Black 3.x version be in a sub forum

There are lots of people who use black and are huge fans. For the sake of good order would it be better to have its own forums even for each release to have their own forums?
That way instead of having a single thread with 750ish posts to read, it could be ordered nicely with a seperate thread for bug posts, feature requests, compliments, etc.

omfg. Are you nuts...

eagle 1 said:
omfg. Are you nuts...
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Well said

used to hear about leaving the moderation to the moderators.. does it need to be spelled out that we ought to leave the administration to the admin/s?
..bro..if u have a suggestion..why not forward a PM to the admin/mod.. but then again, it's a free world ..my 2cents worth..

So much love in this thread...
I think it's a good idea. Actually all the production WM6 ROMs could have their own subforums. It would be a lot easier for everyone to find the information they need. Afterall, that's what subforums are for right?
Don't pay attention to the guys above this post...
They're just upset they didn't think of this simple solution first.
(No cookie for you! )

euth said:
So much love in this thread...
I think it's a good idea. Actually all the production WM6 ROMs could have their own subforums. It would be a lot easier for everyone to find the information they need. Afterall, that's what subforums are for right?
Don't pay attention to the guys above this post...
They're just upset they didn't think of this simple solution first.
(No cookie for you! )
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A: yes it might be a good idea.
b: even if you lay out a trail of bananas the dumb monkey wont find the tree.
c: im amazed at how folks post issues about roms outside of their threads.
d: there is still going to be users posting romA issues in romB forum
e: CHICKEN IN A BUCKET....

The forum would be much less cluttered if:
a. Unnecessary, irrelevant, duplicated and erroneous posts could be deleted. Happens in other forums to good effect.
b. Posts could be moved to a more appropriate thread. Again, happens in other forums.
c. Flamers would have the balls to PM noobs directly rather than seeking brown-nose points by more than doubling the noob's effect on already burgeoning threads by posting their own replies in addition to the OP's.
d. Everyone use sigs of 1 line or less. This IS a PDA / Smartphone forum!
Apart from that, I think that a more 'user friendly' dynamic Wiki-type sub forum for things like JJ's WM6 would be a good thing, with separate threads for bug reports, congrats, moans and spin-off topics.

This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.

ChaoticDruid said:
This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.
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You have thumbs?

Hyperbaric said:
d. Everyone use sigs of 1 line or less. This IS a PDA / Smartphone forum!
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Did you even stop and look how much useful stuff is linked in peoples signatures..etc, and hey what a coincidence..its usually pda/smartphone related, plus it helps when ppl ask questions needing help, and they don't include their device info.
wow, pretty nifty huh?
And yes, I do have thumbs..they are even opposable.

Yes! it by all means should.
And in order to post in it, one has to past a test that shows they have read the wiki.
By the way - I didn't vote
I see the concern, I just don't see any effective solution.
Berd.

As of this post there are over 800 replies in the ProBlack3.0.1 post. 800. That's a lot of crap to churn through. Any more efficent form of organization is welcome imo.

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This is just retarded, I don't see Faria on the Wizard side with his own forum, and plus what about LVSW...both also quality chefs.
All you're doin is creating more useless posts to thumb through.
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That's my point exactly. All production ROMs should have their own subforums.
Also, side note... being a vBulletin admin, I know the capabilities of these forums. It wouldn't be too difficult to have the chef moderate his own subforum (or let them appoint their own moderator(s)).
I think it's funny that a very good suggestion is pissing so many people off. If you don't like the idea, just vote no... don't light your panties on fire in protest.
Keep in mind this is just a "Poll" to see what people think.
Long live JJ and Black! (and other hard working chefs and ROMs)

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Did you even stop and look how much useful stuff is linked in peoples signatures..etc, and hey what a coincidence..its usually pda/smartphone related, plus it helps when ppl ask questions needing help, and they don't include their device info.
wow, pretty nifty huh?
And yes, I do have thumbs..they are even opposable.
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Yep, all very useful info that could be shrunk down to 1 line or... hmmm.. I dunno, maybe put into the user's profile, rather than repeated ad nauseum throughout every thread?
I'm not moaning about the info, just the way its put forward. I have a sig in another forum which lists 10 items in my HTPC setup... in 1 line. It is a (IMHO) genuine point that the one forum that I use most for my PDA, is the least readable one on my PDA.
But anyhoo, anough about item d on my list. Actually, having re-read the original post, I reckon if there was a more hands-on moderation process on the forum, i.e. points a and b, then we wouldn't need a sub forum at all.
Congrats on the thumbs, BTW.

i guess you beeter start my own subforum in here as my hermes rom is coming.... ...could not resist....
in a serious note.... sub forum or not it still wont make a difference how people post etc...plus i would not be fair to others chefs.

Hey, can someone link me to the sub-sub-superduper-sub forum for the Black 3.0.8 forumz0orz? Dee tah deeee! Just when you think the threads can't be any funnier, BAM!

faria said:
i guess you beeter start my own subforum in here as my hermes rom is coming.... ...could not resist....
in a serious note.... sub forum or not it still wont make a difference how people post etc...plus i would not be fair to others chefs.
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That's a good point. What this forum needs is strict moderation. Jees, even my last couple of posts would have been binned... followed by a 'friendly' warning from the mod... on other forums.
Don't think that we need to be overly concerned about the fairness to 'other' chefs, though. I'm sure they will step up to the oche.. plate, or whatever, and do their own stuff.

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That's a good point. What this forum needs is strict moderation. Jees, even my last couple of posts would have been binned... followed by a 'friendly' warning from the mod... on other forums.
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Good point... Thread is closed, its useless and not going to happen..

(New) hTC p3600i is out!

After HTC announced Trinity not included between WM6 devices, H3G Australia sell the WM6 Professional based version HTC P3600i, obviously HSDPA-enabled, including handwriting recognition!
Specifics:
- Samsung 500 MHz processor;
- 256 MB.
For further informations click here: http://www.three.com.au/cs/ContentS...1618&cid=1155886580937&MobileId=1185943301498
Who's the 1st's goin' to extract the ROM

cool!!!
very nice device!!!
i`d like to have one

there are already two threads that speak about p3600i

Are you a moderator, Guybrush ?
This is my thread, so please don't be boring little boy

vysus said:
Are you a moderator, Guybrush ?
This is my thread, so please don't be boring little boy
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Don't be a spoilt little boy yourself vysus. If everyone creates a thread because they " feel like it" the forum will be unuseable. Guybrush was politely and simply stating a fact. He should have said " mods close this bloody thread down it's completely useless".
This information should have been posted in one of the other 3600i thread instead of polluting the forum with yet another useless thread.

nealed said:
Don't be a spoilt little boy yourself vysus. If everyone creates a thread because they " feel like it" the forum will be unuseable. Guybrush was politely and simply stating a fact. He should have said " mods close this bloody thread down it's completely useless" .
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Why don't you just do your own business, spoilt, little, cryin' child ?
Did you know that H3G Australia is selling the HTC P3600 ?
Well, other people no, we're in a forum about Trinity and it's my right to write according to the topic

vysus said:
Why don't you just do your own business, spoilt, little, cryin' child ?
Did you know that H3G Australia is selling the HTC P3600 ?
Well, other people no, we're in a forum about Trinity and it's my right to write according to the topic
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Yes, we knew this already from other - way more informative - threats.
Like the ones mentioned below by Guybrush...
So what is your message, other than lower yourself with your wordings?

I think this thread needs closing now, it's changed from a repeat topic to a bit of a flame.

the rom in mobile in H3G used to be older than you think.
the os may be one of the first wm6 releases.it is very possible,i am not kidding.

This thread should have been a point of start on doin' something good, I think, but due to your unwanted comments, became useless, as somebody said.
I'm not used to be impolite, somebody was before me, I've only replied.
I suppose from now I'll only read what I'm interested in, holy rollers

vysus said:
This thread should have been a point of start on doin' something good, I think, but due to your unwanted comments, became useless, as somebody said.
I'm not used to be impolite, somebody was before me, I've only replied.
I suppose from now I'll only read what I'm interested in, holy rollers
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What a spoiled little boy!!!
Why can't you be just a little more humble and admit that everyone that made you the warnings are just trying to improve this forum.
I'm sure that you with ~90 posts already been in some threads without any interest.
If there's already 2 threads about this, why don't you make your post's inside them!!!

vysus said:
I'm not used to be impolite, somebody was before me, I've only replied.
I suppose from now I'll only read what I'm interested in, holy rollers
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Nobody was impolite before you. It was you who started being bad mannered on this thread.
What you did was bring an argument you had with Guybrush on another thread onto this one. An argument which YOU started in the first place on his thread.
Look if you're looking for someone to insult and have an argument with, don't do it here, find somewhere else.

I repeat, you're such a sect of supposed supermen, the problem is yours, I feel sadness for everyone of you, will not reply even if you keep on being so disgusting people

vysus said:
I repeat, you're such a sect of supposed supermen, the problem is yours, I feel sadness for everyone of you, will not reply even if you keep on being so disgusting people
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Ok! so all of us are wrong and you are wright?
For my side I think we should all say SORRY for this guy!!!
This is a open forum and sometimes we have to face guys like this

we apologise for being right?
I can do that
I doubt he'll apologise for being wrong though

After his reply to me earlier I was sorely tempted to reply and thought that he didn't even warrant it. I was right. However, I wanted to thank everyone for confirming what I already thought. Mods - does this thread have any use to any one? One other thing - (sound hypocritical, I know but) if you're reading this, please don't post to this thread any more - it's just giving it credance it should not have - and keeping it on page 1 of Trinity Mobile 6.

vysus said:
Why don't you just do your own business, spoilt, little, cryin' child ?
Did you know that H3G Australia is selling the HTC P3600 ?
Well, other people no, we're in a forum about Trinity and it's my right to write according to the topic
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Why don't you stop posting in a rude and assaultive manner. You can be replaced ...

Software review forum....

Dear Moderator et al,
It seems to me that it would be beneficial to have a forum where sofware applications get described, reviewed and rated only. This means no problem/solution discussion. Questions about which SW is best and what should I use, etc. get repeated and difficult for noobs to figure out how to search. It would be great if we could bury "keywords" in the thread to make it easier for them to figure out as well.
Just a thought..... Cheers!

tomsenna said:
Dear Moderator et al,
It seems to me that it would be beneficial to have a forum where sofware applications get described, reviewed and rated only. This means no problem/solution discussion. Questions about which SW is best and what should I use, etc. get repeated and difficult for noobs to figure out how to search. It would be great if we could bury "keywords" in the thread to make it easier for them to figure out as well.
Just a thought..... Cheers!
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See the General forum. It's there that all software reviews should be done. At least I post my reviews in there.

Menneisyys said:
See the General forum. It's there that all software reviews should be done. At least I post my reviews in there.
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Thanks for your quick reply. I guess my point was really a specific forum with a title "Software Reviews" or "Kaiser Software Reviews" (for specific platforms if that made sense). The "General" forum is too - well - general! If the Forum had Software Reviews as the name, it's clear. Then, a thread is dedicated to a specific application with people giving their opinion. The key words would help those who may not know precisely what to search for in that forum.

a big request,so big that it can't be in requsts thread

request to mods/admins
please,please,please
I GET SICK WHEN I SEE THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD
the general discussion is full of LG,Samsung,Sony-Ericsson threads and posts about roms,apps,whole bunch of stuff which we don't support because they aren't htc
some guys/girls asked for separated threads for those listed above,but they didn't get them because they aren't htc products
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
PLEASE STOP THIS by removing those threads or by giving them a section,either ways let's keep the forum clean and cool....and easy to use and navigate
the third option is to give us shovels to dig our way out of omnias,i780-s,x-perias and whole bunch of crap
please think about this and let's do something
thanks
faruk

Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.

JimmyMcGee said:
Off-Topic is the Apropos Place for this.
Ultimately though, General is a good place for non-HTC products. Most people stay within their own section.
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well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...we aren't support for wm devices,but for htc,as it's said in the welcome screen nad short "site about"
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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and samsung is not htc so the place for them is off topic

farukb said:
well we aren't windows mobile developers,at least it's not our name...
and samsung is not htc
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Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.

JimmyMcGee said:
Oh I know. If you look back at all the non-Htc Subforum request threads you will see me telling people no. But They still seem to think General is ok. I don't know what Admin's stand on this is.
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that is my point,i also say no, but they keep posting...but one moment i saw general full of non-htc crap and i got really pissed off

hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.

fzzyrn said:
hateful child....
just kidding.
i think it's ignorant and somewhat elitist to completely deny non-HTC devices service here. We do have a forum for the XDA atom, which was NOT made by HTC. It was, however, carried by XDA. The world isn't static, and it's ignorant to say that the internet isn't either. We've opened forums for even the least used HTC devices, so we should definitely consider giving non-htc devices their own forums, especially given the number of people who have them.
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personally,i'd give them their sections,and i wouldn't mind to have omnia,but the general thread thing bugs me...if you know what i mean

well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"

fzzyrn said:
well, you know....
to quote some inexplicably famous guy "the best place to find order is in disorder"
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????self-quoter

caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.

fzzyrn said:
caught me!
i guess this means that i'm inexplicably famous.
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...no...
i only saw your signature...doh!

haha i keep trying to get one of the mods to say it so people don't present that reaction to me.
hint hint wink wink

anyone...please....the situation is getting bad really bad

admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar

Flar said:
admin opinion:
I have no issues whatsoever with the thread but I agree that off-topic might be a better place. Though this forum is for HTC made devices it doesn't stop us of discussing any other trivial matter as long as it's in the right section (whether that be the best brand of coffee, the speed of our dsl line, the color of my avatar or a different device)
We will not at any moment open forums for non htc made devices on this forum, it would open the floodgates for way too many devices and make this forum too general and unmanageble.
Best regards,
Flar
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i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
quote from my first post
and now they are clearly allowed to post about those devices in general discussion
(because you don't stop them)
so when we look it in technical way...it is spamming,as talking about cars,pc's, estates is
in general or any other thread (except for off topic thread)
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farukb said:
i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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Unfortunately the life of a mod can be overwhelming at times, we can't be everywhere all the time. If you have a problem with a thread and want to bring it to our attention, you could send a PM.
We will evaluate the options and take the action we feel is best.

farukb said:
i totally agree with you
i am a htc user so i don't have problems with the forum
but as an admin you could do something to prevent general development or any other thread being full of "off topics"
mods don't clean it up,go now and you will see more non-htc threads than eg. application development threads
and that drives me crazy
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As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar

Flar said:
As jimmy says mods do have their own lives and can't be everywhere all the time, it helps if you help point out stuff like this.
Consider the fact that some of our mods spend up to 14 hours per day here, most of that time spent moderating...
Also consider this is vacation season and for a lot of the mods (and users) this time of day is the time you start thinking about going to bed, with mods being on vacation all of us have a hard time coping with all the mod work as it is, a bit of patience will get you a long way.
Best regards,
Flar
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yes i know that and i fully appreciate it,they are people too
but there is a dozen of mods,not only one
i'm not rushing anyone,just asked everyone to consider it
this thread is almost a month old (7-25-08) so it won't make a difference now or next week or whenever
thanks again for your patience and dealing with some sometimes pissed off guys

i'll help,make your job easier
i'm starting to provide links of all non-htc threads in a new "report non-htc" thread
so someone could just delete them,without searching and reading the whole forum
is it ok with you?
thanks

By delete, you mean move to Off Topic?
Also, if this is the desired plan, should the General forum have a annoucment, and maybe change the description, informing users of this?
Oh and BTW, I have PM'd Meniesys about making a Roll up Sticky for all his guides, he said he is looking into it
Ta
Dave

Questions for Mi Max 3 owners

Looking to get some feedback from the actual device owners. Someone, who has this phone, the box and documentation that came with in their possession. I'm not interested in links to any websites, including official Xiaomi / Mi sites, or any specifications, pasted from a web source. I just want to hear back from device owners. If you do not own the device and have thoughts/opinions to share, please create another thread for that purpose. Thank you for understanding
Does the phone variant you have support wireless charging? If not - have you tried using wireless charging receiver with it, something like this one?
Can you list FDD-LTE bands your phone supports? They should be published either on the product box or inside the documentation that came with (again - no web links or sources, please)
If you don't mind sharing - where did you buy yours from?
TIA

Sir, please know if this thread turns into this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3819107
It will be quickly closed too, and there won't be a third. And I'll be subbed to this one. :good:
Keep it civil and respectful folks.
Thanks!
Darth
Senior Moderator
Edit : And again, you cannot control who posts here. You'll need to open your own site for that. Not sure why you'd start out on the wrong foot again?

Darth said:
Sir, please know if this thread turns into this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3819107
It will be quickly closed too, and there won't be a third. And I'll be subbed to this one. :good:
Keep it civil and respectful folks.
Thanks!
Darth
Senior Moderator
Edit : And again, you cannot control who posts here. You'll need to open your own site for that. Not sure why you'd start out on the wrong foot again?
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Since you closed the other thread, I replied to your comments and your decision to close it in private, but if you want an answer here - I'm absolutely fine with that. The answer to your question is: I don't consider having started anything on the wrong foot, either now or ever. Targeting specifically device owners with questions is not unprecedented, not against forum rules and is actually quite common on XDA. There are hundreds of threads, where people ask owners for device review, or ask questions like "where did you buy it from?" or "How is the battery life?" - all of these can only be answered by someone, who owns the device. On the other hand, your notion or "suggestion" that there is something wrong with asking for owners' feedback is rather uncommon, and unprecedented in my 10+ years of experience as XDA member (and a lot longer as unregistered reader). I am sincerely hoping you will reconsider your position and retract your comments. In other thread, which you closed, I provided details explanations why I want feedback from owners (even though I didn't owe anyone explanation about target audience for my questions), so I'm not gonna repeat it here. There is really, absolutely nothing wrong with asking for owners feedback/advice and it is done all the time - let me know if you want some examples of such other XDA threads.

Apo11on said:
Since you closed the other thread, I replied to your comments and your decision to close it in private, but if you want an answer here - I'm absolutely fine with that. The answer to your question is: I don't consider having started anything on the wrong foot, either now or ever. Targeting specifically device owners with questions is not unprecedented, not against forum rules and is actually quite common on XDA. There are hundreds of threads, where people ask owners for device review, or ask questions like "where did you buy it from?" or "How is the battery life?" - all of these can only be answered by someone, who owns the device. On the other hand, your notion or "suggestion" that there is something wrong with asking for owners' feedback is rather uncommon, and unprecedented in my 10+ years of experience as XDA member (and a lot longer as unregistered reader). I am sincerely hoping you will reconsider your position and retract your comments. In other thread, which you closed, I provided details explanations why I want feedback from owners (even though I didn't owe anyone explanation about target audience for my questions), so I'm not gonna repeat it here. There is really, absolutely nothing wrong with asking for owners feedback/advice and it is done all the time - let me know if you want some examples of such other XDA threads.
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I won't reply to anything above here. That can be discussed privately.
All I've asked is for this thread to remain respectful for every one, unlike the last one, or it's fate will be the same. Never once did I imply the topic is invalid, only the senseless arguing was.
Thank you. :good:

As a suggestion: you could contact Xiaomi support. I'm sure they'd give you a more trustworthy answer than anything you read posted here, as you can't verify the poster is telling the truth. So, as the saying goes, get it from the horse's mouth - and then you could inform the community of your findings.

Nope no wireless charging.. have a whole bunch of wireless chargers from my Nexus 6, LG G3, S7 Edge and S9 Plus. It's physically impossible to have one too.
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From the Moderator
This is going no where as such
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