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Hi,
I was reading a thread on the 4GB SD Cards and am still unsure if the 4GB Transcend 150x SD Card works on the O2 Exec/Universal/Dopod 900? I would like to confirm with someone who has used this SD card in their Exec/Universal.
According to the Transcend Tech Support, they replied... "First of all, thank you for considering Transcend product. O2 series support SD memory up to 2GB.(Please refer to the website for compatibility list)
http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/Search/index.asp .f you have any other question, please feel free to let us know"
I've looked at their site and the stated max size supported is 2GB... This is confusing as other people have mentioned it kindof working..
Would love to know before I jump out and buy it!
Cheers!
RE
There're some discussions here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd
I bought this card and used for about 2 weeks in my jasjar without any problems. I'm now using/testing in my dopod 818 pro /jamin and again no problems thus far. The size is awesome.
Mike
I've used that card in my XDA Exec for a month or so and had no problems whatsoever. The only catch is that the photo camera app won't save photos and videos to it, giving you an error when you try.
Now I've moved it to my Axim. I'm using a 1GB card on my Exec and the photos can be saved to the memory card without problems.
It is so cool,Without any problem.......Work very well with my Qtek9000~~~~
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
cktlcmd said:
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
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Thanks all for the replies... Just wondering if what everyone said about putting 2GB of stuff on the 4GB card, then leaving less than 2GB free, the the camera app will work is true or not?
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
makuk said:
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
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It is OK to take the risk, as long as you research if you can return it and get a refund if all does not go well.
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
foxnolds said:
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
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Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
foxnolds said:
cowoktajir said:
Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
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How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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makuk said:
How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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Yes that sound like it has a bearing... According to the discussion on http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd. If you have more than 2GB of free space on your SD Card, then the camera app will not work. I think that you will have the same problem with your 4GB SD Card as others brands 4GB SD Card.
I don't know if this has been said yet, but I think I might know what's causing the trouble.
2GB = 2.048MB = 2.097.152 KB = 2.147.483.648 Bytes
A DWORD (32-bit number, used in loads of windows apps) can handle up to
2^32 = 4.294.967.296, which SHOULD be enough
However, if the number is treated as signed (means it can be positive and negative), one of the bits is used to keep track of the sign, and thus the maximum becomes:
2^31 = 2.147.483.648
If you go over that, the number will be negative.
What I think that's happening is that the camera app calls something to get the free space, gets a DWORD, treats it signed, and thus if you have more than 2GB free, it thinks it's a negative number and will thus not allow you to shoot more pictures
The fix is simple: Get more than 4GB and the sign will probably change to positive again Downside, once have less than 4GB but more than 2GB free it'll show the same symptons
Just kidding
Anyway, as I see it, there might be two fixes:
- An app that keeps a file on your card, and keeps it at a size so that you have just under 2GB free.
- A patch for the camera to either fix the signed-ness, or hook into the API and return 1.99GB if the free size exceeds that.
Unfortunately, I don't have a 4GB Card *yet*, so I can't look into it
I'll see if I can somehow fake a filesystem with more than 2GB free, else you'll have to look at vijay55 or someone else nicely
I might buy a 4GB card, but then again, I might decide not to because of these compatibility issues :/
RE
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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FOSA said:
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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Might want to read my post just one before yours
I highly doubt it's a problem with Transcend as other apps and the OS itself works perfectly with it, I think it's the fact that it crosses the 2GB boundary of free space and thus the Camera ****s up
How about partioning the SD? If you partioned it to half the size of the the 4GB you would have 2 2GB parts minus the space you always loose on SD cards...
Hmm I saw that was also mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=214020#214020
Hi All,
Just to let you know. I bought the Transcend 4GB 150x SD Card today for my O2 Exec phone. As expected everything works except the camera app if you store photo/videos to storage card when you have more than 2GB of data free. I have therefore put over 2GB of files on the card leaving only 1.8GB free at the moment and heh presto the camera app works. (as everyone has been saying!).
Well I'm chuffed I have a working 4GB SD Card now!
Only issue is the SD Card access seems to be slow. This seems to be the case for any SD Card I use in my O2 Exec (512MB, 1GB 60x, 4GB 150x). Anyway of speeding things up? Registry hack??? Pocket Mechanic states that it's only 0.16mb/s!
Also another issue was the card is not recognised by my laptops built-in SD Card reader! Luckily I have a external one which worked ok! Anyone know how to solve my SD Card Reader issue? I've emailed Benq tech support hoping they have a new driver or something like that. But no reply yet.
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Hi makuk,
Which Pocket Mechanic version are you using on your EXEC? Is it Wm5 compatible?
Hello
I would like to know if the xda2i is compatible with 4Gb SD cards
Thanks
I would assume so as its a standard fit. Wont be very fast though?? Where and what kind of price are you looking at??
gingerchristopher
bit of an update. the 2i wont work with all 2g cards. so I am asuming that it wont work with the 4g. if anyone else finds out it would be good to know.
gingerchristopher :roll:
I have alpine with 2Gb Transcend card... All is OK.
I have just seen an ad for a 4Gb card on EBay advertised as compatable with the XDA 2i, I use a 150x 2Gb myself but noticed this card was also a 150x and good value at £65
As posted here I'll try the 4gb SD card we have at work tomorrow.
Yep, worked fine. It was a 4gb 150x card (£120 >.<) and it worked fine.
The XDA IIi employs the Intel's PXA272 as its core processor. The SD controller of the PXA272 currently supports one SD or SDIO card based on the standards outlined in the SD Memory Card Specification Version 1.01 and SDIO Card Specification Version 1.0 (Draft 4). Unfortunely, the maximum capacity of SD card defined in version 1.01 is only 2GB.
frankrick said:
The XDA IIi employs the Intel's PXA272 as its core processor. The SD controller of the PXA272 currently supports one SD or SDIO card based on the standards outlined in the SD Memory Card Specification Version 1.01 and SDIO Card Specification Version 1.0 (Draft 4). Unfortunely, the maximum capacity of SD card defined in version 1.01 is only 2GB.
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If you're saying the XDA IIi does not support 4Gb SD cards, you're wrong, since I tested the one that is sitting on a shelf where I work and it was fine.
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If you're saying the XDA IIi does not support 4Gb SD cards, you're wrong, since I tested the one that is sitting on a shelf where I work and it was fine.
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Actually, I really don't know whether the XDA IIi is able to support 4GB SD card or not. I found the technical info in Intel PXA27x Processor Family Developer’s Manual and SD Specifications part1. Version 2.0 SD spec can support up to 32GB SD card but Version 1.01 only 2GB. And, the SD controller of PXA27X is built on Version 1.01.
p.s. Here are references:
1) page 16, "2. System Features", SD Specifications part1 Physical Layer Specification Version 2.00 Draft
2) page 737, "15.1 Overview", Intel PXA27x Processor Family Developer’s Manual
32Gb? How much is that going to cost?
I thought a 4Gb card was a bit excessive!
As I know, everything is ok with 4Gb.
Just bought a 4Gb Zynet 150x SD card and it seems to work fine, although I have not tried copying a whole 4Gb to it.
That was on my XDA II (since my IIi is currently having it's screen repaired!)
Incidentally, does anyone know what the max transfer speed of the II and IIi is to the SD card?
Thanks
Steve
P.S. My Casio Exilim EX-S600 can't see all 4Gb, but can write to it.
4GB sd card shows wring usage information
Hi,
I have just bought 4GB SD card for my XDA IIi, I copied all my music on them. But surprisingly enough, music and some data I have copied is total 1.9 GB, but the memory tools shows only 245MB free. where has another 1.7 GB gone? Does this mean it doesn't support 4GB?
Regards!
Narayan
Edit: Q answered
unfortunately not
hi
I bought a 4gb SD card in order to try it with my alpine.
unfortunately it isn't compatible.
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Hello
I would like to know if the xda2i is compatible with 4Gb SD cards
Thanks
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I can verify 4Gb works well, I have been using a TOPRAM 4Gb 150x in my XDA 2i for the last 9 months or so and no issues at all currenly it has about 3.2Gb of data on but is just the same stpeed to use as my old 1Gb 150x SD. TomTom works fin, movies play well and no issues with software or MP3s just dont put any today plugins on your SD as that will affect performance.
hy guys.
i would like to know if xda IIi supports 8gb SD cards?because on ebay those are really cheap(like 15€ = cca. 20$), i know its not lots of money, but i dont want to buy something it wont work...now i have 2gb RS MMC card in it with adapter from my old nokia 6630, and works fine, just not big enough for divx movies etc
regards
Sadly 4gb is the largest non HC cards I have seen, wether micro or SD anything above 4 gb seems to be an HC and HC cards will not work (Or so everyone tells me I believe them as it is a different interface standard)
so it also work on xda II?
Hi guys,
I'm thinking of upgrading my 512mb SD card to 2gb, but I'm not certain that the phone (Qtek 9090) will be able to work with such a large card.
Does anyone here have a 2gb card working? Any brands/models that are known to work or fail?
Thanks in advance for your help.
2gb SDCard...
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!
2gb SDCard...
Hi there, I also have a 2Gb Sandisk card in my XDAIIs, I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!
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I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!
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Hi! Do you have a brand name or model number of the card reader you mentioned so I can search for it on the Internet? So far I've purchased 2 different readers and neither can speak "2gb" :shock: The one I can use for 1gb cards but not 2gb cards is Belkin F5U248 rev.2, so I know that one wont work!
Thanks in advance!
Does anyone know what speed the BA supports for its SD cards?
The transfer speed is limited by the SD card type
The transfer speed should be contained within the card specification sheet
As I understand it, the maximum transfer speed is 22.5MB per second
This is for a 133X SD card, so compare accordingly
thanks for the reply. I just wanted to make sure that there wasnt a limit on the SDIO bus on the BA.
I'm planning to buy a 2gb Sandisk, but i'm not too sure whether the ultra version will work, as the compatibility list on their website only shows the standard. So i might just get the standard one to be on the safe side.
I currently use 4Gb SD card! I had only hard time finding flash card reader for my PC, which can read such a big card
I believe PPC devices has no problem with big SD cards. At least my Mio 168 PPC with GPS (PPC 2003) understand 4G card too.
But I do not believe flash manufacturers X rating. I NEVER seen real speed more than 3 Mb/s on any type of device. My card have rating x133 (22.5Mb/s). And I have no idea on what device and how did they measure that speed?
From the 2g->4gb reports it sounds like sd card size is not so much an issue for the BA, more for the SD->USB adaptor.
I have the same awful USB activesync file transfer rates reported on this thread, despite running WM5, so it sounds like my current adaptor might need upgrading.
Anyway, thanks for helping out, and I now have a 2gb 133x SD on order for next week ;-)
The typical transfer rate is 2MBps
Quotes like 133X and 150X are NOT a multiple of this but the coefficient comparison between the read and write speed
As an example for a 2MB SD card
Uploading 2MB data takes 1 second
Reading data, for that same setup, takes 1 second
For the 133X the write speed is the same, but the read time is 0.4 seconds and for the 150X card it is 0.33 seconds
This also assumes the SD interface meets SDIO v1.01
If not then the 133X and 150X cards take the same time to read as the standard card
2gb Card Reader
Hi there ottGalaen,
My card reader is made by PC Line, I think it's PC World's own brand, the Model number on the back is PCL-CR400.
Here's a link to it...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=818835&category_oid=
If that doesn't work just go to www.pcworld.co.uk and search for PCL-CR400
I hope this helps
Kind regards
Terry
4GB SD here with a cheapie card reader/writer. No problems at all.
2gb sd
i use a 2gb sd card sandisk with no problems
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ottGalaen said:
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!
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Yo, what type of SD card that you using now (Sandisk Ultra II) ?
Just so you guys know my 4GB SD card is a Transcend 150x.
I had a 2GB SD card from Kingston and I was quite satisified with it up until I realized I could record VGA video on my TP2, so I figured an upgrade would be good. So, I bought a Transcend SDHC 8GB class 6 card and I thought all was well in the universe.
Until I ran the camera application. On an empty 2GB card with the camera set to 3MP Super Fine, I can get 3711 shots. On an empty 8GB card, I can get 7114. 4 times the space, but just barely twice as many pictures? Something isn't adding up right here. Could somebody explain this to me?
Both cards have been formatted to FAT32 and the full 7,700ish MB are seen by the phone in the memory tab.
Thanks!
I have 3 micro SD cards, the 4GB that came with the Desire, an 8GB which came with my Touch HD and a 6GB which I bought for my old Vario III. Will the speed of these cards make much difference to the running of the Desire, especially with apps on the SD card. Also is IO performance more important that transfer rates?
Would like to put a higher capacity card in the phone but not if it'll slow things down.
Done some quick testing of the various cards and the 4GB card that comes with the Desire is a lot slower than the other two cards. Seems the 8GB is actually the fastest at transfer speeds and has the highest IOps so I'll swap it over for that one.
Ok, well I transferred all the stuff to the other SD card and now my phone doesn't recognise any of the installed apps. Is it not as easy as transferring the files between the 2 cards?
Check The SD Class WQritten On THe Card
My 4 GB is lot faster then another 8 GB i am using