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Hi,
I was reading a thread on the 4GB SD Cards and am still unsure if the 4GB Transcend 150x SD Card works on the O2 Exec/Universal/Dopod 900? I would like to confirm with someone who has used this SD card in their Exec/Universal.
According to the Transcend Tech Support, they replied... "First of all, thank you for considering Transcend product. O2 series support SD memory up to 2GB.(Please refer to the website for compatibility list)
http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/Search/index.asp .f you have any other question, please feel free to let us know"
I've looked at their site and the stated max size supported is 2GB... This is confusing as other people have mentioned it kindof working..
Would love to know before I jump out and buy it!
Cheers!
RE
There're some discussions here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd
I bought this card and used for about 2 weeks in my jasjar without any problems. I'm now using/testing in my dopod 818 pro /jamin and again no problems thus far. The size is awesome.
Mike
I've used that card in my XDA Exec for a month or so and had no problems whatsoever. The only catch is that the photo camera app won't save photos and videos to it, giving you an error when you try.
Now I've moved it to my Axim. I'm using a 1GB card on my Exec and the photos can be saved to the memory card without problems.
It is so cool,Without any problem.......Work very well with my Qtek9000~~~~
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
cktlcmd said:
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
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Thanks all for the replies... Just wondering if what everyone said about putting 2GB of stuff on the 4GB card, then leaving less than 2GB free, the the camera app will work is true or not?
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
makuk said:
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
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It is OK to take the risk, as long as you research if you can return it and get a refund if all does not go well.
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
foxnolds said:
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
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Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
cowoktajir said:
Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
foxnolds said:
cowoktajir said:
Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
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How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
makuk said:
How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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makuk said:
How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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Yes that sound like it has a bearing... According to the discussion on http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd. If you have more than 2GB of free space on your SD Card, then the camera app will not work. I think that you will have the same problem with your 4GB SD Card as others brands 4GB SD Card.
I don't know if this has been said yet, but I think I might know what's causing the trouble.
2GB = 2.048MB = 2.097.152 KB = 2.147.483.648 Bytes
A DWORD (32-bit number, used in loads of windows apps) can handle up to
2^32 = 4.294.967.296, which SHOULD be enough
However, if the number is treated as signed (means it can be positive and negative), one of the bits is used to keep track of the sign, and thus the maximum becomes:
2^31 = 2.147.483.648
If you go over that, the number will be negative.
What I think that's happening is that the camera app calls something to get the free space, gets a DWORD, treats it signed, and thus if you have more than 2GB free, it thinks it's a negative number and will thus not allow you to shoot more pictures
The fix is simple: Get more than 4GB and the sign will probably change to positive again Downside, once have less than 4GB but more than 2GB free it'll show the same symptons
Just kidding
Anyway, as I see it, there might be two fixes:
- An app that keeps a file on your card, and keeps it at a size so that you have just under 2GB free.
- A patch for the camera to either fix the signed-ness, or hook into the API and return 1.99GB if the free size exceeds that.
Unfortunately, I don't have a 4GB Card *yet*, so I can't look into it
I'll see if I can somehow fake a filesystem with more than 2GB free, else you'll have to look at vijay55 or someone else nicely
I might buy a 4GB card, but then again, I might decide not to because of these compatibility issues :/
RE
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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FOSA said:
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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Might want to read my post just one before yours
I highly doubt it's a problem with Transcend as other apps and the OS itself works perfectly with it, I think it's the fact that it crosses the 2GB boundary of free space and thus the Camera ****s up
How about partioning the SD? If you partioned it to half the size of the the 4GB you would have 2 2GB parts minus the space you always loose on SD cards...
Hmm I saw that was also mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=214020#214020
Hi All,
Just to let you know. I bought the Transcend 4GB 150x SD Card today for my O2 Exec phone. As expected everything works except the camera app if you store photo/videos to storage card when you have more than 2GB of data free. I have therefore put over 2GB of files on the card leaving only 1.8GB free at the moment and heh presto the camera app works. (as everyone has been saying!).
Well I'm chuffed I have a working 4GB SD Card now!
Only issue is the SD Card access seems to be slow. This seems to be the case for any SD Card I use in my O2 Exec (512MB, 1GB 60x, 4GB 150x). Anyway of speeding things up? Registry hack??? Pocket Mechanic states that it's only 0.16mb/s!
Also another issue was the card is not recognised by my laptops built-in SD Card reader! Luckily I have a external one which worked ok! Anyone know how to solve my SD Card Reader issue? I've emailed Benq tech support hoping they have a new driver or something like that. But no reply yet.
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Hi makuk,
Which Pocket Mechanic version are you using on your EXEC? Is it Wm5 compatible?
I'm running the ARTIMES 4.02 Rom.
With Tom Tom 7 i was forced to buy atleast a 4gb SDHC card.
My 2gb was working perfect. I replaced it with a 4gb SDHC from scandisk.
My P3300 can read this card without any problems. Works fine i thought.
The first time i noticed a problem was when i was playing a movie (.WMF) from my new card. On the 2gb these movies were playing fine, but on my new 4gb card the movies are hardly playing at all. Sound is ok with my windows mediaplayer, but video can bearly keep up and stutters....
So i thought that my new card could be slower. After some research it seems that all these MICRO SD card are CLASS 2. So why is my movie playing a lot slower from my 4gb than with my 2gb ??????
Now here's a question for all of you:
What is the MicroSD Card that is included with your phone? I know it's a 16GB, but does yours have a company branded on it, and also what class is your SD card?
The reason I ask this is because I want to know if they switched the SD Card on my phone with a crappy one and took the good one just before I picked it up. The SD card that came with my phone is just a plain generic Class 2 card. CLASS 2!! It doesn't even have where it is made at. I'm thinking, are you serious?!?! The transfer rate is so horrible, averaging only at 1.5MBps. Takes me over 30 minutes to transfer about one 1GB of files.
My friend who got the rezound at least got a Class 4 card, even though it's generic and made in Taiwan. But his transfer rate is averaging at 15MBps.
So I just wanna double check with all of you and make sure we all have the same type of SD card.
p.s. Also, this could be the reason why the phone sometimes perform sluggishly. I have a feeling when it pulls anything from the SD Card, may it be a large app, music or videos etc, it will have to wait to read from it.
OH! could this be the MAIN reason behind the slow response when taking pictures? I read that this phone has a horrible camera speed, but it might be due to the SD Card being slow and can only write at very low speed to the card.
I also noticed the slow performance of the included micro sd card, and I can't even access it from my card reader, but only through the phone's "mass storage" mode. Anyway just ordered a Sandisk class 4 32GB card from amazon...
The default card that came with mine is a Class 4 8GB made by Kingston. It doesn't say Kingston on it, but I have an actual Kingston SD card to compare it to.
aquariuz23 said:
Now here's a question for all of you:
What is the MicroSD Card that is included with your phone? I know it's a 16GB, but does yours have a company branded on it, and also what class is your SD card?
The reason I ask this is because I want to know if they switched the SD Card on my phone with a crappy one and took the good one just before I picked it up. The SD card that came with my phone is just a plain generic Class 2 card. CLASS 2!! It doesn't even have where it is made at. I'm thinking, are you serious?!?! The transfer rate is so horrible, averaging only at 1.5MBps. Takes me over 30 minutes to transfer about one 1GB of files.
My friend who got the rezound at least got a Class 4 card, even though it's generic and made in Taiwan. But his transfer rate is averaging at 15MBps.
So I just wanna double check with all of you and make sure we all have the same type of SD card.
p.s. Also, this could be the reason why the phone sometimes perform sluggishly. I have a feeling when it pulls anything from the SD Card, may it be a large app, music or videos etc, it will have to wait to read from it.
OH! could this be the MAIN reason behind the slow response when taking pictures? I read that this phone has a horrible camera speed, but it might be due to the SD Card being slow and can only write at very low speed to the card.
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If that's the default save spot, then yes, that could possibly be the issue. How big are the pictures?
LiViD said:
The default card that came with mine is a Class 4 8GB made by Kingston. It doesn't say Kingston on it, but I have an actual Kingston SD card to compare it to.
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8GB class 4?? wow that is small in size, although it is a class 4 card. Livid, is it because you are on Bell? Could this be carrier related? Also, how is your camera? Is it having that speed issue in between pictures?
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If that's the default save spot, then yes, that could possibly be the issue. How big are the pictures?
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bmxant, I took some pics and at full res, they average at around 1.3-1.5 MB, which is just right there with the speed, giving it a second or 2 delay in storing/saving them onto the sd card.
Sandisk Class4 16gb in mine. Mine was ordered and sent directly from AT&T site...I'm leaning toward them swapping out the card on yours.
If you're only writing at 1.5Mb's, that would definitely cause an extra second of lag. Would be nice if we could see a comparison between the Class 2 SD card vs Class 4.
How much cheaper could they get? It's bad enough the phone has 4GB of internal storage. They should of included either a 32GB Class 2, or 16GB Class 4.
Edit: Just read Namuna's post. Why would they swap out the card?
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Sandisk Class4 16gb in mine. Mine was ordered and sent directly from AT&T site...I'm leaning toward them swapping out the card on yours.
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Alright thanks, I just need some more confirmations and I can visit the store again and confront them with it. I will make them open a fresh box in front of me and check it, unless of course they've swapped all in that store lol!
@aquariuz23: It probably is carrier related. You guys got double on the SD storage and RAM storage versus what we got. I feel a little screwed in that regard, but meh.
For photo taking, it only took one second to snap the picture and store it on the card. The gallery took 5 seconds to read 84 pictures that were stored on the SD card.
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@aquariuz23: It probably is carrier related. You guys got double on the SD storage and RAM storage versus what we got. I feel a little screwed in that regard, but meh.
For photo taking, it only took one second to snap the picture and store it on the card. The gallery took 5 seconds to read 84 pictures that were stored on the SD card.
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That sounds pretty good, what does Antutu say your write speed is?
Topram Class6 16GB here. SD Tools report 18.5MB/sec read and 5.5MB/sec write, which is pretty accurate for C6. (btw, card manufactured in 2009)
This phone I bought used, can't confirm the card is the original.
6.3 MB/s write and 13 MB/s read. It's about average for a Class 4 SD card.
what do u guys use to test the read/writes of the sd card? I wanna do a test on mine as well.
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what do u guys use to test the read/writes of the sd card? I wanna do a test on mine as well.
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I always used Antutu
Tested with SD Tools
http://www.amazon.com/KOMPUTERBAY-C...&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325197909&sr=1-11
Think this is worth it?
I am getting an average of 2.9MB/s Write and 11.1MB/s Read. Seems like a typical class 2 card. Took it a while to run the test too since it's so slow lol.
I got 5.4MB/s write, 15.5MB/s read (Antutu) on the 16GB Class 2 card from my Captivate that I wiped and stuck in the Nitro and gave the one that came with it to my Captivate (running hacksung's ICS). Is the included card that bad?
According to AnTuTu:
3.4 MB/s write
>50 MB/s read
According to SD Tools:
5.7 MB/s write
20 MB read
Nothing like some consistency between utils.
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According to AnTuTu:
3.4 MB/s write
>50 MB/s read
According to SD Tools:
5.7 MB/s write
20 MB read
Nothing like some consistency between utils.
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That just crippled my trust in AnTuTu's tests...sorry but there is no microSD card with >50mb/sec read speed, it's impossible.
Although not a question dedicated solely to the OGP, i figured others with this phone might also want to know....
I'm looking to get a 64gb card for the phone to store music and whatever else can be put there (I realize apps can't go on the SD). I've seen class 10 cards and other slower classes for sale online. Does the speed of the card make that much of a difference for the uses that we need? I'm assuming that any class of card would be sufficient for music, but then again maybe I'm wrong. Someone please educate me!!!
I realize that with a digital camera, you want a faster card to quickly store the image you just took, so you can get on to snapping the next picture, but with our phones do we need the faster storage that class 10 provides? How much does it matter?
Also, I understand there are apps that swap the built in memory location for the Micro SD location (sorry, I'm an Android newbie and I'm just learning), so that I could have 64gb of "built-in" storage for apps (minus the OS), and 23gb for "external storage", then would the speed class of the card then come into play much? How fast is the built in memory compared to a class 10 SD card?
the thing i can say is class 10 helps a lot for "scanning media" process which comes :
every time you boot the phone
every time you move some media or add some new
before i had a cheap one and it was long....
Built in memory will typically be faster than even a Class 10 card. The other day I picked up a 64GB MicroSD card from Best Buy (half price at $50) and put a ton of ripped movies into it so I can show of that 5.5" screen. It scanned the 50GB of files in a few seconds and I haven't noticed any stuttering, even as I scroll through the videos.
All of the 64GB MicroSD cards I have seen have been Class 10 anyway, so don't worry if you pick up a 64GB. This is the one I purchased (same price as Best Buy):
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...e=UTF8&qid=1371505587&sr=1-1&keywords=microsd
And I do see a few non-branded cards on Amazon, but I would stick with a name brand. There is a reason they are selling for $16.
And, to make it more confusing, I've seen Micro SD and Micro SDHC cards. Can the OGP use both types, and is one better than the other?
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And, to make it more confusing, I've seen Micro SD and Micro SDHC cards. Can the OGP use both types, and is one better than the other?
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MicroSD is anything under 4gb, 4-32= SDHC above 32gb = SDXC. The OGP can accept any of them (up to 64gb).
Hi all,
I've been using my MOTO G5 for almost a month now and I'm pretty satisfied with it tho I've encountered some small annoyances with this phone.
But just yesterday I bought a Lexar MicroSDHC UHS-I 32GB for my phone and tried to format it as an internal storage replacing my Sandisk MicroSD Class 4.
After formatting it as an internal storage in my surprise the phone prompts that the memory card that I've used was "too slow" (considering this is a class 10) then reverted it back to portable storage, restarted my phone and then tried the same procedure but still the "too slow" message prompt was showing.
I felt frustrated with it, re-inserted my Sandisk MicroSD Class 4 then formatted it as my internal storage but the message "too slow" never prompt.
I just want to know if there is someone who had experience this unfortunate thing? what did you to solve this issue? or should I stick with my class 4 sd card or better yet stick with the 16gb internal storage of my phone?
Thanks!
yes, i tried to use an A-Data class 10 uhs-1 32 gb and i received the same message, but i thought my card is defect, it was used in my dvr camera and after 10 sec it stopping to recording, i think is broken. On the phone after 2 days, it blocked my phone, no one app working, everything was blocked. I remove the card and restart the phone and everything was fine. Sorry for my english, but i think that specs of the card its lies
Try running this app. Tests if the card is fake or not. There are quite a few around online that are have MUCH less than advertised capacity / speed and i'm pretty sure that the internal storage option on Nougat requires a proper fast card.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.humanlogic.sdi&hl=en