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4gb sd card?

Will it work on the xda IIs?

It may. A user on another forum just reported succesfully using a Tanscend 4gb card in his XV6600 even though he was told it would only support 2gb...http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61612

Have tested with 2GB SData SD card myself, works fine. Didn't have 4gb but it should work as well.
The SX66 supported SD list was created back when the highest SD card was like 512meg or 1gig, that's why the supported lists are different

hi, thanks for the replies. i see it everything should be fine using a 4gb sd card.

due to the nature of the BA, and as far as i kno all other fairly recent PDAs they will support all current and future SD cards as they don't suffer the limited memory addressing of smaller less complex devices such as normal mobile phones like nokias and digital cameras
i've read somewhere the SD card standard will theoretically go up to 16gb, lets hope they arn't too far away, and that the BA will support it.
Still hoping some random company will develop and release an SDIO USB host though. Damn the BA not having Compact Flash.

http://www.everythingusb.com/news/index/5929.htm

http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
Much cheaper, and from SanDisk...
1 GB SD which doubles as a USB thimbdrive w/o need for adapter. MSRP $134.99

Are 2gb SD cards compatible with BlueAngel?

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of upgrading my 512mb SD card to 2gb, but I'm not certain that the phone (Qtek 9090) will be able to work with such a large card.
Does anyone here have a 2gb card working? Any brands/models that are known to work or fail?
Thanks in advance for your help.

2gb SDCard...
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!

2gb SDCard...
Hi there, I also have a 2Gb Sandisk card in my XDAIIs, I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!

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terryd1980 said:
I also have a card reader which I purchased from PC World for £10.
Works a treat!!
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Hi! Do you have a brand name or model number of the card reader you mentioned so I can search for it on the Internet? So far I've purchased 2 different readers and neither can speak "2gb" :shock: The one I can use for 1gb cards but not 2gb cards is Belkin F5U248 rev.2, so I know that one wont work!
Thanks in advance!

Does anyone know what speed the BA supports for its SD cards?

The transfer speed is limited by the SD card type
The transfer speed should be contained within the card specification sheet
As I understand it, the maximum transfer speed is 22.5MB per second
This is for a 133X SD card, so compare accordingly

thanks for the reply. I just wanted to make sure that there wasnt a limit on the SDIO bus on the BA.
I'm planning to buy a 2gb Sandisk, but i'm not too sure whether the ultra version will work, as the compatibility list on their website only shows the standard. So i might just get the standard one to be on the safe side.

I currently use 4Gb SD card! I had only hard time finding flash card reader for my PC, which can read such a big card
I believe PPC devices has no problem with big SD cards. At least my Mio 168 PPC with GPS (PPC 2003) understand 4G card too.
But I do not believe flash manufacturers X rating. I NEVER seen real speed more than 3 Mb/s on any type of device. My card have rating x133 (22.5Mb/s). And I have no idea on what device and how did they measure that speed?

From the 2g->4gb reports it sounds like sd card size is not so much an issue for the BA, more for the SD->USB adaptor.
I have the same awful USB activesync file transfer rates reported on this thread, despite running WM5, so it sounds like my current adaptor might need upgrading.
Anyway, thanks for helping out, and I now have a 2gb 133x SD on order for next week ;-)

The typical transfer rate is 2MBps
Quotes like 133X and 150X are NOT a multiple of this but the coefficient comparison between the read and write speed
As an example for a 2MB SD card
Uploading 2MB data takes 1 second
Reading data, for that same setup, takes 1 second
For the 133X the write speed is the same, but the read time is 0.4 seconds and for the 150X card it is 0.33 seconds
This also assumes the SD interface meets SDIO v1.01
If not then the 133X and 150X cards take the same time to read as the standard card

2gb Card Reader
Hi there ottGalaen,
My card reader is made by PC Line, I think it's PC World's own brand, the Model number on the back is PCL-CR400.
Here's a link to it...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=818835&category_oid=
If that doesn't work just go to www.pcworld.co.uk and search for PCL-CR400
I hope this helps
Kind regards
Terry

4GB SD here with a cheapie card reader/writer. No problems at all.

2gb sd
i use a 2gb sd card sandisk with no problems

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ottGalaen said:
Hi!
I'm currently using a 2gb SanDisk SD Card, everything works great. Oddly enough, I cannot find a card reader to connect to my PC that can read them!?!? I'm still using 2003SE and transfer movies and MP3's to the phone by using the painful multi-hour process of Exploring via ActiveSync. Uggh! This is fixed in ActiveSync 4.1 but ONLY if you are running WM5... Just having 2003SE and 4.1 will still be totally laggy for file copy.
Enjoy!
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Yo, what type of SD card that you using now (Sandisk Ultra II) ?

Just so you guys know my 4GB SD card is a Transcend 150x.

What is the best 2G SD form my Jamin?

Sandisk, Panasonic or ....?

I recommend Transend 150x (fast) 4gb for about £55

What is the max sd size I can put on my Jamin? Is it 4G the max size?

In theory there is not a maximum size, but until you buy a particular brand and try it, you never fully know...

Noony said:
I recommend Transend 150x (fast) 4gb for about £55
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Ha, I have the same and I think it's pretty good too. Don't hesitate to buy a 4GB card - the space is never enough

4gb microSD or SD
Now I use Transcend 1Gb MMCmobile and I decide to buy card with more space.
Which one 4Gb card are complitable with Qtek S200 - microSD or SD?
I want microSD because of microSD is complitable with lastest Nokia and Benq-Siemens mobile phones so it's more universal.
So, which 4Gb microSD with adapter is fully complitable with Qtek S200? Anybody test it? Or better to buy standard (full phisical size) SD?

SD is the right choice for the Prophet, but if you intend to change your phone/PPC soon you are better off with a microSD.
I myself had a 4GB SD for my Prophet but I swapped it for a Herald/P4350. Nice device but it uses microSD. That sucks
microSD so far is only available as 2GB max. If you need 4GB of space take a SD-Card if you can live with 2GB than definitly go for microSD.
It usually comes with an adapter to be used as a SD-Card.
btw 4GB is the maximum size for the Prophet.

I am always wondering about this because I use a Dopod 818 pro, and the manufacturer's website says it supports up to 1GB SD Card. So it can support a 4GB on that model? Can any verify this for me, thanks!

centralman said:
I am always wondering about this because I use a Dopod 818 pro, and the manufacturer's website says it supports up to 1GB SD Card. So it can support a 4GB on that model? Can any verify this for me, thanks!
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Yes, 4GB SD-Card can be used by Prophet devices. I for myself used it for the last ten months without a problem. anything above 4GB I cannot guaranty. I'm not sure about SDHC-Cards if they are working in those devices.

Thanks Kelvin for your info. I will try to buy a standard 4GB SD card then. One more question, do you think the speed rating of the SD card has any effect on the performance? Would getting a 150x card be better?

Thanks Kelvin for your info. I will try to buy a standard 4GB SD card then. One more question, do you think the speed rating of the SD card has any effect on the performance? Would getting a 150x card be better?

I checked my old SD card and it was a 133x Speed. I was pleased with it. I'm not sure if the 150x performes better/faster on the Prophet, actually not even sure about the Prophet SD slot read/write performance. But in general it won't hurt going for the 150x if the price doesn't differ much from a 133x. SO GO FOR THE 150x

Thanks for your answer. Will buy it at the weekend!

It would be faster, But not on the prophet
The prophet can't use the speed since it cannot write data on a memory card so fast, Actually, Today the only speed limit is the device itself, The cards are allways getting faster and faster and faster and...........

Hello again!
I have choise between two 4Gb cards for my Prophet:
1. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card [MLC, 30x] (43$)
or
2. Transcend 4Gb mini Secure Digital card SDHC miniSD (43$)
or
3. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card 150x (50$)
Which of them is the best for Prophet (Qtek S200)?
My choise - 2nd or 3rd card (prefer 2nd because more universal) but I would like to read people's opinion. Can i feel real difference between this cards onn Prophet?

vitalis said:
Hello again!
I have choise between two 4Gb cards for my Prophet:
1. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card [MLC, 30x] (43$)
or
2. Transcend 4Gb mini Secure Digital card SDHC miniSD (43$)
or
3. Transcend 4Gb Secure Digital card 150x (50$)
Which of them is the best for Prophet (Qtek S200)?
My choise - 2nd or 3rd card (prefer 2nd because more universal) but I would like to read people's opinion. Can i feel real difference between this cards onn Prophet?
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Not sure if Prophet can cope with SDHC technology, probably not.

So, 4GB SD Card will recognize in my Dopod 818 Pro with still original WM5 shipped ROM?

I tried a 4gb SDHC card with my prophet today, it didn't work. I wonder if there's a patch for sdhc support.

4GB SD Card

Hello,
I am a new Blue Angel user (bought it used) and so excited to get the best out of it.
Well, I am trying to upgrade the storage, and trying to buy 4GB SD Card...
I have seen a lot of
"Dane Elect 4GB SD Cards" on Ebay and
"Transcend 4GB SD Cards" on Amazon, and
trying to buy either one of them.. but I am wondering,
-Are they both compatible? and..
-Which would be a better choice?
Your replies much appreciated.
Best regards,
J.

xcellent said:
"Transcend 4GB SD Cards" on Amazon,
J.
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Goto www.newegg.com or get it from amazon

4GB SD Cards are compatible with Blu Angel?
I read that 2GB is the max value...

hmm
Yeah, after searching through the forum, found out that BA takes 4GB...

xcellent said:
Yeah, after searching through the forum, found out that BA takes 4GB...
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Can you write your experience? have you use a 4GB SD card on Blu Angel?

4gb card
i have a topram 4gb card 150x and all is working ok on my xda 2s with tomtom 6 and mp3s, movies

4GB
I bought a D-Tec 120x 4GB SD Card, had a bit of doubt as I have never heard of D-Tec.
However, I received it today, and so far it works fine! It recognises as 4GB.

To clarify this a bit more for people -
There are two types of SD cards right now:
SD (1.1)
SDHC (2.0 - HC stands for high capacity). A good primer on the changes can be found here: http://www.sandisk.com/sdhc/SDHC.pdf
Basically, what you need to know - any card that is regular 1.1 (8mb -4GB) will work in the BA. Any card that is 2.0/SDHC (4gb -32gb) will NOT work, as 2.0 is NOT backwards compatible.
The problem here, as you may notice, is that some 4GB cards are teh 1.0 version, and some are the 2.0. If you are not careful, you may buy the wrong card, and end up with something you can't use.
Now, it is possible that some SD devices can only address values smaller than 4.0GB. But, assuming the device is FULLY 1.1 compliant, a 4.0 1.1 card should work just great.
Here is an example of the differences -
This is a 1.1 card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820183017
This is a 2.0 card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820211067

Maximum Size Of a MicroSD (XDA Orbit)

Hello! I called the customer service of O2 today. It says that a storage-card (MicroSD) for the XDA Orbit cannot bei bigger than 512 MB. I cannot believe that but is this correct? Does anybody know the maximum size for a storage card?

Not true - my Orbit runs fine with a 1Gb card, as does my MDAC3.

I am happily running a 2Gb card in my Orbit

Where's the limit?
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?

SunDrop said:
What about 2GB or 4GB? Will they work with the XDA Orbit?
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Hi,
I'm not as experienced as some others on this forum... I'm sure they'll correct my info
I spent a day or so seraching for info before I got my card, and FWI here are my notes:
2GB fine.
4Gb may be problematic.
Thickness of SD card may be a problem. The latch/Phone card has to be correctly clicked into place around the card.
Some makes of card seem better. Sandisk HIGH SPEED seem to be good.
I've got a 2Gb version and it's ok, but read others experiences in the forums.
I got both Lexar and CNex tools to check formatting could be done with full control and also to provide recovery possibility.
Hope that may help.

damned micro sd card
please can someone help?
i have a 1gb sandisk micro card which is being reported by my orbit as 512mb(minus FAT). i put it into my computer and it is clearly 1gb. i have tried putting more onto the card via the orbit, and it says "no more space", but it is fine via the pc. what's going on?!?
thanks in advance,
Tom

Maybe you should try WM5Storage and format SD card on PC. There is detailed instruction how to do it on forum.

afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm

I sell 2gb micro sd for the orbit on a daily basis and had no problems with them, I even use one myself.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/In-Shops-XDA-Accessories

Ice_mephi said:
afaik there are no 4gb micro sd cards. 2gb is max for them atm
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not true i have one and its working!

Mobile 2007 .... what make and how I was under the impression 4GB were not compatible?

I'm currently using a 2GB Sandisk microSD card and it is perfectly working.
Regarding 4GB microSD cards, they are called microSDHC (High Capacity) and as far as I know, the Artemis is not able to read from of write to them.

That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?

I've got a 1gig with all sorts on it. I think 2gig is the biggest at the moment.

Stephen.Gazard said:
That's what I thought but it appears mobile2007 has got it to work?
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it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.

mobile2007 said:
it works you can be sure
i tried some micro sd cards 4gb at the cebit
not all were working
i can also not tell you which card i have
i bought it at one of the thousands chinese stands (cebit 2007)
(cost 25€!)
how can i help you to find out what card i have
written on the card is sandisk, but i am not sure if this is right,
because i doesn't look like original sandisk.
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If what you say is true, you'd have made my day