I'm really wanting to get this sprint touch on the verizon network. I've loaded a verizon rom on the phone and a verizon PRL what i'm wanting to know is what to do next. Verizon won't add the esn to their database or do anything for me. I'm wondering if I change to esn number of the touch to the phone I have now on my verizon account will it work?
Note: I walked into the verizon store asking about this and they told me it would never work because sprint uses SIM cards and Verizon doesn't. I about laughed so hard in her face. Then she told me she wasn't gonna debate it.
Justin9825 said:
I'm really wanting to get this sprint touch on the verizon network. I've loaded a verizon rom on the phone and a verizon PRL what i'm wanting to know is what to do next. Verizon won't add the esn to their database or do anything for me. I'm wondering if I change to esn number of the touch to the phone I have now on my verizon account will it work?
Note: I walked into the verizon store asking about this and they told me it would never work because sprint uses SIM cards and Verizon doesn't. I about laughed so hard in her face. Then she told me she wasn't gonna debate it.
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Yes it will. But you AFAIK the verizon radio firmware won't let you supercid to change the ESN.
Besides, there are ways to get verizon to add the ESN (head over to ppcgeeks, and do some searching). Also... I have not yet gotten the roaming indicator to work on my sprint HTC touch. It always says "preferred network", and displays the roam warnings on incoming calls.
-Tom
Yeah I got verizon to add the esn with no trouble.
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Yeah I got verizon to add the esn with no trouble.
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Can you pls tell me "us" how u did it.. cuz i want to give my friend who's on verizon network to use my touch...thks
Read my post here for all the info http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090.
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I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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AFAIK, this is impossible because Sprint will not activate a phone from outside their network.
I believe the CDMA frequencies are incompatible, but don't quote me on that.
Are you sure the Evos are in Verizon? I've heard of them on Cricket and other smaller carriers that use the Sprint network, but not Verizon.
I do not believe this is possible due to Sprint being a jerk. You COULD buy the Droid Razr unlocked and plead with a Sprint rep, but I would say you have next to no chance of getting them to activate it for you. Sprint will only activate a phone that has an ESN number that is in their database, they COULD activate it, but that is against their TOS and no rep even has the power to do it for you, you would have to practically get Dan Hesse on the phone to do it
My advice would be to wait a little bit (unless your current phone is on the fritz and you need a new one now, and in that case, go with the Epic 4G Touch, I love mine!!) and see what is out there, the Galaxy Nexus MAY or MAY NOT come to Sprint, but I would expect at least 2 or 3 top of the line Android devices by the end of Q1 2012...... Ultimately the choice is up to you... Best of luck!!
It is being done you have to unlock the phone so the freg can be changed to work on a different carrier. You do not tell what type of phone u just give the ESN number after you hack the hardware info. You would be surprised how often this is being done. Most of your local cell phone providers have the software to make this happen and when i mean your local cell phone provider. I am talking about the ones that offer service cheap or have the phone in the store that you can buy. the mom and pops.
I have to "lol" at some of the replies. Sprint and Verizon use the same cdma frequencies, 800mhz/1900mhz. Why do you think Sprint phones can voice and data roam on VZW?
Anyway, what the OP wants to do is achievable via *wink* *wink* methods, and it's not easily done anyway but possible.
Google is your friend.
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I thought there was a law against them not allowing this?
When I was with T Mobile (GSM) they were required by federal to give you the subsidy unlock code and could not deny the usage of any other GSM phone on their network so long as the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for being stolen/lost. I could call AT&T to unlock one of their phones to use on T Mobile - obviously data was a nogo because of the AWS band.
So there's nothing like that for CDMA carriers?
Like what newalker91, none Sprint ESN will not work. But any Verizon phone will work on Sprint. You will have to do the same thing as they are doing to the EVO's.
Look for a broken or older Android phone with a good ESN.
huh? Google it!
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For one, the 3G frequencies on Sprint are locked out to phones not registered in the ESN database and the phone will NOT work on Sprint's network. Calling Sprint a jerk for this is ridiculous and shows how little research has been done by the complainant.
For two, this has nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, therefore this thread is being reported as spam/incorrect section.
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If that's the case, how can we load certain PRL's and roam on Verizon's network using 3G? Or is roaming a different story? It would seem we're not exactly "lock out" due to the ESN not being registered, maybe mildly restricted?
There seems to be some major gaps in what you said but I could be wrong, care to elaborate?
As far as reporting this thread, that's a douchey move. The OP has a legitimate question, it just seems people have heard different *facts* about the topic so there's a few different answers. That's no reason to report the thread and try to have it deleted - obviously there's an information issue on this subject that needs to be resolved. Even more of a reason to keep this thread open.
CDMA phones are essentially unlocked. You can get your SPC/MSL, for my Vogue and Mogul, I called sprint ant they gave the MSL even though at the time I was under contract. Now I just use CDMAWS. Everyone knows Verizon's MSL code, 000000. With your msl you can change configurations to your hearts content, provided you have the software.
The problem is that Verizon and Sprint will not activate a meid/esn that is not in their system. Yes they are both protecting their interests by making sure you live up to your agreement but I also think they do not want to take the to time trouble shoot every stinking phone that some yahoo wants to put on their network. Keep in mind every phone they release has been tested and configured to work on their network, they don't some strange phone coming from a Korean/Chinese CDMA network with who knows what settings configured on their network. There are a ton of configuration options that other carriers can use. Thankfully Verizon and Sprint keep the configs on the simple side.
Getting a E4GT on Verizon/MetroPC/Virgin/Boost is a piece of cake. Its one of the easiest phones to do. Many HTC phone are harder to do but can be done. LGs look simple but the Optimus seems to require using LGNPST to unlock some entries before you can get changes to stick. I was using a Droid Incrdible on my Sero plan for 6 months before I changed phones. Going in to details on how is discouraged and I have been warned against doing so by a mod.
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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It's not that simple. You have to use programs to swap the ESNs. As in take the ESN from the Pre and put it on the Droid Razr. And then you give them the Pre ESN (which is really the Droid Razr) and it'll work on Sprint. You'll still need to change some stuff like the APN/MMS settings, among other things, but out of the box, it should make calls/SMS texts.
A little bit of a downer...
Theres only one problem with that... Droid Razr uses a Sim card for network identification. I know its CDMA, but all LTE phones on Verizon require a sim card, also it has no ESN number. So, until Sprint gets LTE, then no Razr on Sprint, unless someone hacks the sim card to have an ESN number (which I have seen with the HTC ThunderBolt), but if Sprint does get LTE, then you have to change the IMEI number with a 4G LTE phone on Sprints Network, and even then, you still only get Sprint 3G, unless they plan to use the same bands as Verizon, but good luck trying to get it on Sprint!
ok here's the breakdown.. because 90% of the info in here isnt correct. few guys said some worthwhile stuff tho.. so everyone dont hate
the droid razr isnt getting on sprint... youre not editing the moto meid. not possible. there are some scripts out there that edit the moto meid on bootup but its buggy and does not work on all motos. unless youre super mobile hacker.. youre not touching this method.
other phones... samsungs/htc/lg... as gedster314 said... can all be easily edited. each individual phone may have its quirks but in general.. they all generally use the same methods to edit meid/3g profiles.
now... as for what Jayjaymac said above about it not being able to work without a sim card. generally this is correct.. when doing everything by the book. but you can remove the sim card and rewrite the serial built into the phone and rewrite it as the meid.. and then youre on cricket/metro/boost etc. now again... youre not editing the moto meid... but its because of how moto locks down their phones.. NOT because of the lte sim. the samsung charge has a weird chipset so no one has interfaced it with QPST yet.. so no meid change there either. the htc thunderbolt can easily be put on any cdma network.. that has a sim. any htc device wouldnt be a problem putting on other networks... vzw gnex would work as well.
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the moto cant be done... but not for the reasons people specified in this thread. if u wanna edit meid's.. dont ever choose moto.
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
Korey_Nicholson said:
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices...
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I can Vouch
check this out
or this or this or this if your lazy
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
Why didn't you just reply to the thread this was in?
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So rumors have been popping up about being able to activate the VZW nexus on Sprint..
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...vate-verizon-galaxy-nexus-on-the-now-network/
I just went through the chat with two tech people, and a phone call with one other, here's the result:
You: I heard that Sprint is agreeing to activate the Verizon Galaxy Nexus on their network, is there any truth to that? I really want the phone but love sprint service and don't want to change providers.
Vincent K.: I am sorry, it's not possible to activate the any other provider phone in Sprint.
You: So... if I got the phone and called up with the ESN (clean) and went to activate it, they wouldn't allow me to?
You: Even if I had changed the settings on the phone
Vincent K.: Yes.
Vincent K.: The system doesn't allow to other provider phone activate in Sprint.
You: Alright
Vincent K.: Had it been possible, I would have done it for you.
You: Good to know
So I guess that really puts the rumor to rest, ey? Unless you work for Sprint or have someone that works for Sprint do it for you I don't think they will even consider it.
Shouldn't this be in the General Section seeing as this isn't Development? Mod please move.
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So rumors have been popping up about being able to activate the VZW nexus on Sprint..
I just went through the chat with two tech people, and a phone call with one other, here's the result:
You: I heard that Sprint is agreeing to activate the Verizon Galaxy Nexus on their network, is there any truth to that? I really want the phone but love sprint service and don't want to change providers.
Vincent K.: I am sorry, it's not possible to activate the any other provider phone in Sprint.
You: So... if I got the phone and called up with the ESN (clean) and went to activate it, they wouldn't allow me to?
You: Even if I had changed the settings on the phone
Vincent K.: Yes.
Vincent K.: The system doesn't allow to other provider phone activate in Sprint.
You: Alright
Vincent K.: Had it been possible, I would have done it for you.
You: Good to know
So I guess that really puts the rumor to rest, ey? Unless you work for Sprint or have someone that works for Sprint do it for you I don't think they will even consider it.
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Thanks for confirming what we've already known for years. Care to explain your thought process in deciding that this should be posted in the development sub-forum?
Why is this in development and I haven't heard this rumor. Seems very far fetched.
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There was a chat log that accompanied the rumor that indicated the representative was positive that it could be activated.
Given that tech, plus your chat log, I'm led to believe neither of these techs can be taken at face value. Someone needs to actually try doing it by calling Sprint or going into a store for us to get any solid indication, and even then I'm sure there are reps that won't even try and tell you that they can't, even if it's actually possible.
I actually switched from Sprint to get the Gnex. I'm a little perplexed since I'm not sure how good this phone would be stuck @ 3g speeds on Sprint.
you can swap sprint / virgin mobile phones, but you cannot swap sprint / verizon phones.
reason being is the sublock/msl programming is hard coded into each phone and not directly swappable between the 2 networks.
Sorry to the devs of the GNX Forum, just so used to posting/browsing in the Development section over at Evo3D that I hit it habitually
Thanks for moving!
I highly doubt this is going to happen.
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if the radio's where compatable then technically it couple be possible, althrough no LTE till sprint activates it late last year. Just a case of them activating it as the is no sim card in CDMA if am wrong correct me.
Well i know we used to ESN clone the xv6700 and xv6800 and swap between sprint and vzw. I know alot of guys frown at ESN cloning but all im saying is we used to do it and use them on Sprint as well as use Sprint radio softwares on the verizon phones
Hi guys, need some help.
If I switch carrier then phone automatically get bad Sprint ESN, right? If so, thats ok, because I dont want to use Sprint.
I've got Sprint L710 but I never used CDMA before, so little bit confused with how to get rid of that Sprint and make it work with Boost even w/o 4g.. perhaps 2g or 3g if possible. Or Virgin, doesn't really matter, the most important is prepaid plan w/o contract.
I'll make a root and even if then I install custom ROM then still will be using Sprint? Or after flashing custom ROM I can go to Boost and ask them to flash their codes?
Nobody else will help me, I hope for your understanding.
As far as I know. You won't get bad esn as long as you don't have any pending balances pending.
And if you pay the early termination fee.
But I'm not sure. As far as the s3 on another net work then it would have to be flashed with whatever company your gonna use it with.
But your probably better off just selling it on craugslist or eBay and buying an unlocked international version.
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When I switched from ATT contract to TMobile prepaid I just unlocked phone, pulled out ATT sim card and go forward with TMobile. I didnt make any notifications to ATT, TMobile just transferred my number in few secs.
I mean how could I make same on CDMA? Could by example Cricket take my phone to their network? Is it possible to delete all related to Sprint from my phone, make it clean as from factory? And then come to Cricket or another CDMA carrier? In that case if I terminate Sprint contract without any notification I think ESN would be bad.
escknx said:
When I switched from ATT contract to TMobile prepaid I just unlocked phone, pulled out ATT sim card and go forward with TMobile. I didnt make any notifications to ATT, TMobile just transferred my number in few secs.
I mean how could I make same on CDMA? Could by example Cricket take my phone to their network? Is it possible to delete all related to Sprint from my phone, make it clean as from factory? And then come to Cricket or another CDMA carrier? In that case if I terminate Sprint contract without any notification I think ESN would be bad.
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Well if your gonna flash the phone to another carrier like cricket. Then bad esn or clean esn don't matter. Just go into a cricket store and tell them you need to flash your phone and they'll put other on their network.
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And am I be able to get at least their Cricket's 3G?
Or for that I need to go through special procedure with donors?
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And am I be able to get at least their Cricket's 3G?
Or for that I need to go through special procedure with donors?
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What? lol
they should have a cricket store where they flash phones. Idk how the procedure is done, or how it affects the phones. But there might be something screwy with MMS, but you can always ask before you do it. and there might be a fix for that sort of stuff here at XDA
Cricket said that they flash only their phones and I cant keep my existing.
BTW finally we've switched it to Verizon prepaid
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Cricket said that they flash only their phones and I cant keep my existing.
BTW finally we've switched it to Verizon prepaid
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weird, down here where I'm at, they flash any phone really.
well if your S3 is just a brick there you can always sell it.
If the price is low enough i can buy it from you, or also ebay
They said that in New York area they flash only Cricket phones.
But even good, cause because of I that I got Verizon.
I have a Sprint Galaxy S3 that I got from a friend. He was with Sprint but went to another carrier so he unlocked the phone and used it with them. Now I want to use it on my Sprint acct but when I tried to activate it Sprint told me the the ESN is not in their database anymore so they can't activate it. The ESN does not show up as bad, they just say they have no record of this ESN at all.
It this point I'm not sure what to do. This phone is a better phone (it's 32 gb, mine is 16) and it's in better shape than mine so I would settle on cloning my ESN to this phone but I have not been able to find any way to do that.
Does anyone have any ideas about how I can activate this phone?
Thanks!
bhood9 said:
I have a Sprint Galaxy S3 that I got from a friend. He was with Sprint but went to another carrier so he unlocked the phone and used it with them. Now I want to use it on my Sprint acct but when I tried to activate it Sprint told me the the ESN is not in their database anymore so they can't activate it. The ESN does not show up as bad, they just say they have no record of this ESN at all.
It this point I'm not sure what to do. This phone is a better phone (it's 32 gb, mine is 16) and it's in better shape than mine so I would settle on cloning my ESN to this phone but I have not been able to find any way to do that.
Does anyone have any ideas about how I can activate this phone?
Thanks!
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well sprint doesn't have the ESN in there database cause it was literally moved to the other company......unless they went to a sub company of sprint cause then it would still be alright
I am trying to change carriers from AT&T to Sprint I went into the Sprint store. they said that the phone is not able to be hooked up to sprint. It was something with the IMIE do any of you have your phone on sprint if so what did the reps do to activate it please any help would be greatly appreciated
It totally is. I bought mine unlocked and am on Sprint. You just need the right SIM card. They should know better. Go to a store that does repairs and services.
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I am trying to change carriers from AT&T to Sprint I went into the Sprint store. they said that the phone is not able to be hooked up to sprint. It was something with the IMIE do any of you have your phone on sprint if so what did the reps do to activate it please any help would be greatly appreciated
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bradmill08 said:
I am trying to change carriers from AT&T to Sprint I went into the Sprint store. they said that the phone is not able to be hooked up to sprint. It was something with the IMIE do any of you have your phone on sprint if so what did the reps do to activate it please any help would be greatly appreciated
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You need a special SIM card from Sprint and not all stores have it, what i did was call many Sprint stores in my area and i had to drive like 50 miles to go to the store that had it, let me tell you sprint people are just too stupid and often don't know wtf they saying lol
Hey thank you guys for the response. I'm going to go back up there tomorrow.
Sprint is one of Project Fi's carriers. So their network will work with this phone. I've never dealt with Sprint directly but I had the same situation with Verizon when I was on the 6P. All I had to do was activate one of their Sims in a Verizon phone and swap it out. I showed the sales people in the Verizon store this and they were amazed.
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You need a special SIM card from Sprint and not all stores have it, what i did was call many Sprint stores in my area and i had to drive like 50 miles to go to the store that had it, let me tell you sprint people are just too stupid and often don't know wtf they saying lol
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You are 100% correct, my friend. From telesales to corporate stores, they have no clue what they're doing, and the idiotic right hand has no clue what the moronic left is doing.