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1500 high capacity battery P3300

Who can tell me if such batteries really make a difference? I have found many to replace the standard 1200 but I wonder if they are really 1500 and last longer.

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1500>1200, no?

I could work that out myself. I just wanted to know if anybody has any experience and suggestions. The high capacity battery I bought for my previous PDA was supposed to last longer but I hardly noticed any difference.

ghiatti1 said:
I could work that out myself. I just wanted to know if anybody has any experience and suggestions. The high capacity battery I bought for my previous PDA was supposed to last longer but I hardly noticed any difference.
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where you bought it ? can you tell us more about the mark of such battery? and the specs?

I am interested in buying a new one and not in the high capacity battery of my old PDA, which I no longer have.
The one I would like to buy is described as follows: "1500mAh Akku f. HTC P3300/T-Mobile MDA compact III#37. These batteries are made from high Quality Japanese cells of extended Capacity and have no memory effects".

I had an iPaq rx3715 with a 1440 mAh battery and bought the 2880 mAh version. It trippled (!!!) my running time. The battery would last 40 hours with minimum backlight, 24 with medium, 12 hours for video playback with very big power consuming headphones, 10 hours surfing with WLan and playing power draining games and 30 hours of mp3 playback. That pda already has almost unbeatable battery uptime, but with that battery it was perfect.
I got it from akku.net, a German store. They sold me good quality batteries up to now but they don't have that "high" capacity battery. I don't think that you can call 1500 mAh actually high capacity. 2400 would be minimum for me. 1500 mAh at the same size would be an option but not if it is bigger than the actual battery.

Registerme said:
I don't think that you can call 1500 mAh actually high capacity. 2400 would be minimum for me.
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I agree, 1500 is still a "low" capacity, i have 8.2V 7200 mAh batteries at home. I wouldnt bother changing from 1200 to 1500, you really wont notice a difference. After a while batteries will stop holding their charge so well anyway.
I'm waiting for 7200 mAh lol

just for the records,
There are 2400 mAh Batterys for the Artemis available. But they are, as one would expect bigger than the ones shipped with your device. So when purchaising a high capacity Battery you'll get a new Battery Cover shipped with it so the biger battery will fit into your device.
Greetings
Jabami

that sounds horrible lol. pictures anyone?

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more details here: http://www.batteryupgrade.com/
[EDIT: btw, there is also a forum thread about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322744]

excellent, thanks very much dam ugly tho!

wow, just had a look at this website: http://www.batteryupgrade.com/products.php?categorieId=93442175
£17.44 with shipping for a 2400mAh battery!! might even be tempting...

EXTENDED 2400MAH Battery+Cover For Orange HTC P3300
EXTENDED 2400MAH Battery here, whith +Cover For Orange HTC P3300 price 19.90 dollars :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...loc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget

Software to test 3500 mah battery capacity?

I have a 3500 mah battery I bought from the dark side of the moon. It "looks" real and it will operate my phone, but is it REALLY 3500 mah?
Is there some sort of software that I can download that will tell me the battery's capacity?

Thinking about this.
The 1500 mah stock battery charges at a max rate of 650 ma's (even with a 1 amp charger) and takes roughly 2.3 hours to fully charge.
I suppose I could charge it from 50 to 60%, determine how long that takes and multiply by 10 to get the approximate charging time. I say approximate because EVO batteries take less and less juice as they approach 100% charge.
So anyway, once I have the approximate charging time I can multiple that by 650 and get the approximate mah of the battery:
So, if it the total charging time is 4.5 hours I would just multiple 4.5 x 650 and get 2950 mah as the capacity.
I'll try this and see if it works.

try batteryboss.org, i think he had ordered one from hong kong to test, the seidio only did 2810 mah when he tested it, I got one of the 3500's from the states but it is the same as the hong kong version lasts the same as seidio ... way better than the stock 1500, but your method should work as a rough estimate i think.

Did a quick first pass. It took about 13 minutes to charge 10%.
That's 13 x 10 = 130 / 60 = 2.16 x 650 ma = 1408
So, on first blush it would appear that my 3500 mah chinese battery is actually a 1500 mah battery stuck in a 3500 mah battery case.
Sucks, but on the other hand, I got 2 1500 mah batteries for $20 which isn't a bad deal. That being said, do I want to have a big heavy phone for a battery that is no better than my stock?
On the other hand, not being a stock EVO battery, this battery may actually be charging at a full amp. That being the base, I am closer to 2500 + which wouldn't be bad at all. Have to download a amperage testing program and see how many amps it is drawing while charging.
** They never tested the chinese battery at batteryboss.org

OK, installed Current Widget from the Market. It will log my average amperage during the test and we'll find out what's what. I think the answer will be that this chinese battery with 3500 mah written on it is really just a 1500 mah battery.

Well, based upon my Current Meter, the charging amperage is all over the place, mostly between 450 and 550 ma. If that is true, then my calculations change:
13 x 10 = 1300 / 60 = 2.1666 x 500 (avg) = 1083 mah.
Just keeps getting worse.

Omg? I hope that battery isn't from GorillaGadgets.com
Edited: I bought one last night, gonna arrive 10 days.

alekosy said:
Omg? I hope that battery isn't from GorillaGadgets.com
Edited: I bought one last night, gonna arrive 10 days.
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Well, these tests I am running arent exactly accurate. However there is no way a true 3500 mah battery would charge 10% in 13 minutes. Not possible.

Ok, I have two of these 3500 mah batteries. I decided to sacrifice one to science since it was so cheap. I tore it apart and here is what I saw:
Instead of one battery, it looks like two batteries kind of jerry-rigged together. There seems to be connections on both batteries top and bottom. I have no idea if a true 3500 mah battery is supposed to be one solid cell, but these are not.
The batteries have a serial code on them: 044060A JK30
I traced these to a company in China by the name of: Dongguan Delon Power Co., Ltd. They do, in fact, make these batteries; however, there is NO MENTION anywhere on their webpage whatsoever of what the mah is for this particular battery.
In order for this to be a 3500 mah battery, these would have to be two 1750's. I seriously doubt they are. I'm calling BS.
Here are some pics:
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P.S., Lol, sorry for the dirty fingernails. Just got done mulching my garden out front

mitchellvii said:
Well, these tests I am running arent exactly accurate.
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i was about to say the same thing. your best bet is to charge completely, then run it to zero while logging current. then you can import the log to a spreadsheet, and calculate the capacity from there. this wont be perfect, but it will eliminate a lot of variables, and give a fair comparison with stock battery.

Well, at this point the most interesting thing is that this is NOT one battery but two soldered together.
The odd thing is that on every site I checked that sells these, it does NOT list the mah, only the voltage. How the hell are people supposed to buy them if they dont know the mah?

first sorry about bumping such an old post but again i think someone may visit and not get good info so i will add some words,,
these lion batteries charge extremely fast initially only after reaching 90 percent their charging becomes hell slow,,
so to test a battery first take ur oem batter drain it until ur phne shuts offs,,
now put it on charge and after 10 minutes turn it on dont use it ,, just leaveit,, let it fully charge,, fully charge means when ur cell prompts charging completed. or done or 100 % done etc,, note all this time,,,from the time u put the attery till it became full,,
now look at ur charger for output current and multiply that with the amount of time in hours ,, e.g if it took 2.3 ( 2 hours approx 20 minutes) hours and ur charger current otput was 1 amp,, then the ans is 1 x 2.3 =2.3 AH,,, or 2300 mili amps,, now the charging process is not eficient ,, its 30 % loss so get 30 % of 2.3 and subtract it from 2300 mah,, that is ur rough capacity,,,
do same experiment for the high capacity 3500 mah battery as well,,
als weight is another factor which can alone tell u at least if the high capacity battery is having more capacity then current oem or not..
repeat that process...2 or 3 times get the mean u got some good figures,,,,
remember that batteries capacity is not accuratly advertised ,, it may be off by at least 5-10 % for good quality cells ,, poor cellls may be 50 % off from rated capacity,,in that case u can weight the batteries to get an idea,,,
so what r ur results ?
r those batteries still alive

External Battery Pack - your pick?

Long story, but need to urgently place an order for an external battery pack. I personally need something that is compact and gives me at least three full charges on a single charge.
The hunt has led me too this one, has loads of positive reviews as well - New Trent ifuel IMP500 5000mAh External Battery pack.
Apologies if mistaken, but I don't think there's a thread dedicated to external battery packs... thought this one one could help a lot of people discuss their experience and also seek help on deciding the right one for them.
Coming back to my case, anyone here used the above model? Any other recommendations?
TIA.. Cheers!

I just bought this one when it was on sale for $49 over Memorial Day.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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I'll let you know how it goes when it gets here.

Testing my new S2 with Energizer XP8000 works very well so far
Energizer XP8000 Tech Specs:
Battery Cell: Lithium Polymer
Power Capacity: 8000 mAh
Rated Input: DC 12V, Max 3500 mA
Rated Output:
DC 5V, 1000 mA
DC 10.5V, 2000mA
DC 19V, 2000mA
Recharge Time: ~4 Hrs
Weight: 0.5 lbs / 0.22 kg
Dimensions: 4.3(L) x 2.9(W) x 0.9(H) inches / 11(L) x 7.3(W) x 2.3(H) cm
XP8000 Tips
AB03 tip = Acer 3810 Timeline notebook
CB31 tip = Samsung Galaxy S/S2
will be posting up a results thread later
So far with stock S2 optus brand KE2 at 26+ hrs uptime after letting battery run down to 24% once and ~50% twice so far. 100% wifi enabled all the time with 5-6+hrs of Angry Birds hehe

@BarryH_GEG
The Zagg one for $49 sounds like one sweet deal... too bad I'm a few days late !!
@connectandroid
Checking out the energizer... btw, awesome battery performance u got there mate!

Have read several issues with these external power packs not charging the GS2... can anybody confirm successfully using this/any Trent product?

XP8000 ain't even half empty yet.. i probably estimate get a total around 40-50hrs with S2 battery + XP8000 on KE2 firmware.. alot longer on KE7 i suspect. Folks jumping from 8hrs to 24hrs with KE2 -> KE7. So 120-150hrs with S2 + XP8000 on KE7 ?? I hope so LOL
Yeah some external batteries aren't charging. The XP8000 to initiate the charging your press the check battery/on button (you can see in photo above to right of blue led status indicator).

I use a ZaggSparq and an XP18000. The XP18000 usually charges my laptop, but it works hella well in charging the SGSII.

Sleepycat3 said:
I use a ZaggSparq and an XP18000. The XP18000 usually charges my laptop, but it works hella well in charging the SGSII.
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indeed, XP8000 @52hrs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115104

connectandroid said:
indeed, XP8000 @52hrs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115104
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So with my XP18000, I should be able to get close to 100 hours!

Yup probably more with 2.3.4/KE7, say 120-150hrs

The Proporta Turbocharger 3400 and 5000 are the best price/performance packs, and very small in size too. The 3400 will charge the device 1.5-2x, and the 5000 3-4x.
Proporta Turbocharger 3400 http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4662&t_mode=des
Proporta Turbocharger 5000 http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?
I have the 3400 and it has saved my life many times. I will be buying the 5000 soon too. t_id=5287&t_mode=des

Fry's sells this 5000 mAh pack for $30. Of course for that price, you have to supply your own charge cable.

Interesting, I've got a no name brand 5000 mAh, and it works great!

QCell Galaxy Note i9220 4150mAh Extended Battery / i9220 2800mAh Slim Battery

QCell 4150mAh Extended Battery / 2800mAh Slim Battery
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SK5FO2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SK5I44
This is the highest mAh Rating battery I found on Amazon for Galaxy Note.
Will update on results as soon as friend who i got this for uses it
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4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast

Wow! Thanks for the heads up on this. Ordering one of each.

Would love to hear the results on the slim battery - wonder if it really reads higher than the stock 2500mah battery.

These seem awfully cheap. Is QCell a reputable manufacturer of batteries?

omg it looks so ugly and for sure it will burn your galaxy note... have fun ^^

Waiting eagerly for reviews of both ...
Somewhat dubious at that price though

Can you please post some picture with the extended battery and cover attached to the Note

Here's pretty accurate picture

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Here's pretty accurate picture
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Haha oh dude

kdskamal said:
4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast
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Voltage * capacity = total power
Your laptop battery is around ~15V, which is 4 to 5 times higher than the battery in the note.

the lack of the polarity signs on top, and the price , and the fact that they are chinese batterys http.. etc etc ..superexporter.com/suppliers/quality111699398794775225-ningbo_qcel_battery_co_ltdDOThtml (can´t post links) makes me believe that they are just like all the others chinese fakes in ebay, worth the buy .. but don´t be expecting big mah numbers.. in fact don´t even expect 80 % of the mah of stock battery

heavylift said:
the lack of the polarity signs on top, and the price , and the fact that they are chinese batterys http.. etc etc ..superexporter.com/suppliers/quality111699398794775225-ningbo_qcel_battery_co_ltdDOThtml (can´t post links) makes me believe that they are just like all the others chinese fakes in ebay, worth the buy .. but don´t be expecting big mah numbers.. in fact don´t even expect 80 % of the mah of stock battery
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Agreed. I get about 50% of 'stated' mAh on my Chinese batteries. Still a good buy, don't get me wrong, but I am going to pay the extra $15 to get a stock battery now.

Did the 2800 give you more time or its fake?

isn't those chinese batteries harmful for the device .... and can any one post an image for the battery usage

kdskamal said:
4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast
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4150mAh @ 3.7 volts though. I bet your laptop battery runs closer to 15 volts! THe more important figure is how many watt/hr's the battery can supply.
4150mAh @ 3.7v = 15.2625 watt/hr (4.125*3.7)
4150mAh @ 15v = 61.875 watt/hr (4.125*15)

anyone with the test reports of the same

not worth it.
I bought one of each and the slim one did not even last a day. And the thick one lasted exactly a day. I was surfing the net for about one hour constantly texting maybe a 2hr phn call total. And some games like temple run and asphalt. I still recommend the mugen 3400mah this lasted me a day and a half doing the same things.

dominiciselga said:
I still recommend the mugen 3400mah this lasted me a day and a half doing the same things.
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Link to this one please?

Anker 2700mah battery (yep, not 2500)

Just saw that Anker released a 2700mah version battery for the note, an extra 200mah ain't much but it's still a bit more... The price is also good, just ~10$
Ebay Link

updated label

Anyone have a link to site that'll ship internationally?
I can't seem to find anyone that ship this or the original 2500mAh Anker to South Africa

Awesome just ordered one!

please, update the weight when you receive it....

Ordered one from Amazon.com for less than the 2500.

Here`s 2X for $16.99 / £10.99, I add them to my watch list a week or two ago.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330697603014?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Here`s 2X for $16.99 / £10.99, I add them to my watch list a week or two ago.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330697603014?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648
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Do they ship world wide? I cant find it on the website....

It does not look like it.
John.
"Do you offer international postage?
This seller doesn't offer international postage."
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Do they ship world wide? I cant find it on the website....
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How is the battery performance?
And how long does the external charger take to charge a batt fully?

I just bought the Anker 2700mAh combo from a local dealer in Singapore. 2 batteries and charger at SGD40. Charging the battery at the moment... Cant wait to test the batteries!

Take the total average time your phone lasts until it dies
So if your phone lasts only 6 hours on average do this
60 * 6 = 360 minutes
Then do 2500(mah)/360(minutes) = 6.94(mah per min)
So the stock 2500 mah battery should last for 360 minutes
While the anker 2700 mah will last you 389.04 minutes
So for $10-13 dollars will get you an extra 30 minutes
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sonkameja said:
Take the total average time your phone lasts until it dies
So if your phone lasts only 6 hours on average do this
60 * 6 = 360 minutes
Then do 2500(mah)/360(minutes) = 6.94(mah per min)
So the stock 2500 mah battery should last for 360 minutes
While the anker 2700 mah will last you 389.04 minutes
So for $10-13 dollars will get you an extra 30 minutes
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No, for $10-13 you get a secondary battery which can potentially go 30 minutes more than the stock battery

So you will get, say 6 hours from the stock battery and 6.5hours for each anker battery (of which you get 2?)
So thats 6 + 6.5 + 6.5 = 19hours ! (19 Hours of usage, Not 19hours standby)
pretty awesome for $<15

azzledazzle said:
So you will get, say 6 hours from the stock battery and 6.5hours for each anker battery (of which you get 2?)
So thats 6 + 6.5 + 6.5 = 19hours ! (19 Hours of usage, Not 19hours standby)
pretty awesome for $<15
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panyan said:
No, for $10-13 you get a secondary battery which can potentially go 30 minutes more than the stock battery
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I'm in the camp of people who don't want to carry extra devices and constantly removing the back cover
It is not 19 hours of constant usage.
The oem gives me on average 6 hours in the day which also includes Standby.
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Someone Have the Ebay Link To get Anker 2700mAh in Italy?
Thanks

I have the Anker 2500mah and 2700 mah. Battery life for the 2700mah is similar to 2500mah and the interesting thing is that the 2700mah weighs 2 g lesser than both the Original and Anker 2500mah. Taht's disappointing costhey stopped selling the 2500mah and sold the 2700mah at a higher price.

I bought the dual pack with charger. I have been very happy with the battery life a bit better than stock, but now I have a working 3250 mah battery so I keep the Ankers as spare.
Frankly the price is not high considering the quality of the product.
Sent from the great Note

sudisk said:
I bought the dual pack with charger. I have been very happy with the battery life a bit better than stock, but now I have a working 3250 mah battery so I keep the Ankers as spare.
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is that 3250 mah that gold stock size battery?
is it legit? does it actually provide 3250?
on the battery showdown or the 3250 review, they said it was a load of crap and the battery died after a short while or something.

sudisk said:
I bought the dual pack with charger. I have been very happy with the battery life a bit better than stock, but now I have a working 3250 mah battery so I keep the Ankers as spare.
Frankly the price is not high considering the quality of the product.
Sent from the great Note
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well 2700mah pack costs more than the 2500mah pack with same performance. anyway they have increased the price again after my purchase, so for any new buyers I would recommend others maybe the gold battery.
The separators at the battery contact point has has broken for all my anker batteries and also the top edges seemed to have been cracked too. It is minor nonetheless.