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Batteries - 1620, 3200 and 4800 mAh real photos (tests soon)

I've made some pics of original and extended 3200 and 4800 mAh batteries (compared).
Separated in 3 posts (image limit).
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Original - 1620 mAh
Extended 3200 mAh

Extended - 4800 mAh
All batteries compared

Soon as I can will post some tests, thanks

Win_XP said:
Soon as I can will post some tests, thanks
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Great Win_XP!!
Exelent comparative!
I think I`ll stick to original size

good info. thanks!

waiting for tests.very interesting

I'm not sure about the tests at the moment, but DO NOT BUY 4800 mAh battery for Uni, it's a crap! 3200 mah is the best of all batteries (perfect life about 4-5-6-7 days) .
4800 mAh life = original 1620 mAh battery life

Win_XP said:
I'm not sure about the tests at the moment, but DO NOT BUY 4800 mAh battery for Uni, it's a crap! 3200 mah is the best of all batteries (perfect life about 4-5-6-7 days) .
4800 mAh life = original 1620 mAh battery life
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I bought 4800 & 3200 batteries two years ago and i totally agree with Win_xp conclusions.

3800mAh
I have this one http://www.expansys.de/p.aspx?i=139188 since November 2005 and it is still the best you can get as it is just one pice.

I've just bought a 3150mAh battery from SuperGPS.co.uk and ran a simple test. Playing a 352x240, 30fps Divx, at low brightness, I reckon I'll see over four hours - exactly what I wanted!

tailazoom said:
I bought 4800 & 3200 batteries two years ago and i totally agree with Win_xp conclusions.
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I have all 3 batteries, too.....and Win_xp is absolutely right, the 4800mah is crap, compared to the 3200.
....guys, if you charge 4800 SLOWLY (10-15H) in uni through usb and not with the 3200 charger (or not with 3200charger+final 30% in uni, as I was doing before) you'll get much better result (not 3200, but similar....).
Probably you already know, but charging 4800mah batteries with the stand alone usb charger gives green light and stops charging as soon as they hit 3200mah.....

really? ive read on some other sites about the 4800 batts being good but it was up and down, my girlfriend ordered me one and its on its way and i was wondering what kind of battery life to expect and what is the right way to charge it, so this means that i can only charge it via usb? i just wanted a good high life battery as i have an old original 1600batt that wont last4 hrs at standby and 1 hour active, so how should i use it & charge it and out of who has this batt what kind of life should i expect?

6 houres of continuos use from full (100%) to flat (5%). Never charged on usb: i'll try tonight.

Where is a trusty site on USA to buy the original battery?
Thanks in advance

orb3000 said:
Where is a trusty site on USA to buy the original battery?
Thanks in advance
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I can't tell you about USA site, but don't buy Uni battery from DealExtreme, I've got one that not works at all, be aware

Hello
I can get you original DYNA HTC 1620mAh battery for HTC Universal. The price is 18.95 USD with free shipping.
If you are interested, send me the payment to my paypal account: [email protected]
The battery will arrive your destination within a week, or maybe few days later because of the Holiday season...

Win_XP said:
I can't tell you about USA site, but don't buy Uni battery from DealExtreme, I've got one that not works at all, be aware
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Thanks for the advice
I just bought from Duke Nukem the original 1620 battery
I´m waiting to recieve it
Cheers,

dianotea said:
I have all 3 batteries, too.....and Win_xp is absolutely right, the 4800mah is crap, compared to the 3200.
....guys, if you charge 4800 SLOWLY (10-15H) in uni through usb and not with the 3200 charger (or not with 3200charger+final 30% in uni, as I was doing before) you'll get much better result (not 3200, but similar....).
Probably you already know, but charging 4800mah batteries with the stand alone usb charger gives green light and stops charging as soon as they hit 3200mah.....
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What is meant by this? I normally charge the 4800mah via USB with the battery in my qtek.
I have the same problem with the 4800mah battery; it does not contain 4800mah, that's for sure! So, I would like to know:
what is the best way to charge a 4800mah battery?

Bright.Light said:
What is meant by this? I normally charge the 4800mah via USB with the battery in my qtek.
I have the same problem with the 4800mah battery; it does not contain 4800mah, that's for sure! So, I would like to know:
what is the best way to charge a 4800mah battery?
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Always the best way to charge a battery is using the power wall charger

Software to test 3500 mah battery capacity?

I have a 3500 mah battery I bought from the dark side of the moon. It "looks" real and it will operate my phone, but is it REALLY 3500 mah?
Is there some sort of software that I can download that will tell me the battery's capacity?

Thinking about this.
The 1500 mah stock battery charges at a max rate of 650 ma's (even with a 1 amp charger) and takes roughly 2.3 hours to fully charge.
I suppose I could charge it from 50 to 60%, determine how long that takes and multiply by 10 to get the approximate charging time. I say approximate because EVO batteries take less and less juice as they approach 100% charge.
So anyway, once I have the approximate charging time I can multiple that by 650 and get the approximate mah of the battery:
So, if it the total charging time is 4.5 hours I would just multiple 4.5 x 650 and get 2950 mah as the capacity.
I'll try this and see if it works.

try batteryboss.org, i think he had ordered one from hong kong to test, the seidio only did 2810 mah when he tested it, I got one of the 3500's from the states but it is the same as the hong kong version lasts the same as seidio ... way better than the stock 1500, but your method should work as a rough estimate i think.

Did a quick first pass. It took about 13 minutes to charge 10%.
That's 13 x 10 = 130 / 60 = 2.16 x 650 ma = 1408
So, on first blush it would appear that my 3500 mah chinese battery is actually a 1500 mah battery stuck in a 3500 mah battery case.
Sucks, but on the other hand, I got 2 1500 mah batteries for $20 which isn't a bad deal. That being said, do I want to have a big heavy phone for a battery that is no better than my stock?
On the other hand, not being a stock EVO battery, this battery may actually be charging at a full amp. That being the base, I am closer to 2500 + which wouldn't be bad at all. Have to download a amperage testing program and see how many amps it is drawing while charging.
** They never tested the chinese battery at batteryboss.org

OK, installed Current Widget from the Market. It will log my average amperage during the test and we'll find out what's what. I think the answer will be that this chinese battery with 3500 mah written on it is really just a 1500 mah battery.

Well, based upon my Current Meter, the charging amperage is all over the place, mostly between 450 and 550 ma. If that is true, then my calculations change:
13 x 10 = 1300 / 60 = 2.1666 x 500 (avg) = 1083 mah.
Just keeps getting worse.

Omg? I hope that battery isn't from GorillaGadgets.com
Edited: I bought one last night, gonna arrive 10 days.

alekosy said:
Omg? I hope that battery isn't from GorillaGadgets.com
Edited: I bought one last night, gonna arrive 10 days.
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Well, these tests I am running arent exactly accurate. However there is no way a true 3500 mah battery would charge 10% in 13 minutes. Not possible.

Ok, I have two of these 3500 mah batteries. I decided to sacrifice one to science since it was so cheap. I tore it apart and here is what I saw:
Instead of one battery, it looks like two batteries kind of jerry-rigged together. There seems to be connections on both batteries top and bottom. I have no idea if a true 3500 mah battery is supposed to be one solid cell, but these are not.
The batteries have a serial code on them: 044060A JK30
I traced these to a company in China by the name of: Dongguan Delon Power Co., Ltd. They do, in fact, make these batteries; however, there is NO MENTION anywhere on their webpage whatsoever of what the mah is for this particular battery.
In order for this to be a 3500 mah battery, these would have to be two 1750's. I seriously doubt they are. I'm calling BS.
Here are some pics:
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P.S., Lol, sorry for the dirty fingernails. Just got done mulching my garden out front

mitchellvii said:
Well, these tests I am running arent exactly accurate.
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i was about to say the same thing. your best bet is to charge completely, then run it to zero while logging current. then you can import the log to a spreadsheet, and calculate the capacity from there. this wont be perfect, but it will eliminate a lot of variables, and give a fair comparison with stock battery.

Well, at this point the most interesting thing is that this is NOT one battery but two soldered together.
The odd thing is that on every site I checked that sells these, it does NOT list the mah, only the voltage. How the hell are people supposed to buy them if they dont know the mah?

first sorry about bumping such an old post but again i think someone may visit and not get good info so i will add some words,,
these lion batteries charge extremely fast initially only after reaching 90 percent their charging becomes hell slow,,
so to test a battery first take ur oem batter drain it until ur phne shuts offs,,
now put it on charge and after 10 minutes turn it on dont use it ,, just leaveit,, let it fully charge,, fully charge means when ur cell prompts charging completed. or done or 100 % done etc,, note all this time,,,from the time u put the attery till it became full,,
now look at ur charger for output current and multiply that with the amount of time in hours ,, e.g if it took 2.3 ( 2 hours approx 20 minutes) hours and ur charger current otput was 1 amp,, then the ans is 1 x 2.3 =2.3 AH,,, or 2300 mili amps,, now the charging process is not eficient ,, its 30 % loss so get 30 % of 2.3 and subtract it from 2300 mah,, that is ur rough capacity,,,
do same experiment for the high capacity 3500 mah battery as well,,
als weight is another factor which can alone tell u at least if the high capacity battery is having more capacity then current oem or not..
repeat that process...2 or 3 times get the mean u got some good figures,,,,
remember that batteries capacity is not accuratly advertised ,, it may be off by at least 5-10 % for good quality cells ,, poor cellls may be 50 % off from rated capacity,,in that case u can weight the batteries to get an idea,,,
so what r ur results ?
r those batteries still alive

Mugen Power batteries in early 2011?

According to a rep I emailed, Mugen Power is making extended life batteries for our battery eating HTC Glacier that should be released sometime early 2011. For those who don't know Mugen Power, they have a reputation for making extended life batteries for every popular smart phone on the market.
Typically they'll make 2 different batteries for each phone, one that aims to fit like a stock with an added 400 or so mah, the second tends to require a custom backing and can often be double the stock mah.
Honestly? I can't wait. ^.^

WakeArray said:
According to a rep I emailed, Mugen Power is CLAIMING TO MAKE extended life batteries for our battery eating HTC Glacier that should be released sometime early 2011. For those who don't know Mugen Power, they have a BAD reputation for making extended life batteries for every popular smart phone on the market.
Typically they'll make 2 different batteries for each phone, one that aims to fit like a stock with an added 400 FICTIONALLY or so mah, the second tends to require a custom backing and can often be LESS THAN double the stock mah.
Honestly? I can't wait. ^.^
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Okay Fixed
http://batteryboss.org/

greenstuffs said:
Okay Fixed
http://batteryboss.org/
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Fvckin Vultures

greenstuffs said:
Okay Fixed
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In the tests I see Mugen did absolutely terrible. In my experience they *can* make good batteries, but have terrible Q.C. The 1st batt I received for my N900 only lasted about half an hour when fully charged. The second lasted over two days on a charge, when stock couldn't even last one.
They seem to be very much a "luck of the draw" kind of company.

posted this in the seido innocell thread as well:
dunno where i saw it (somewhere here on xda prolly N1 forum) but some guys put every aftermarket battery for MANY phones up against HTC's stock batteries the astounding results:
NO aftermarket battery from ANY mfg. has EVER beaten HTC's stock battery...
(this is referring to batteries that fit in stock battery enclosure)

I disagree fella, I myself can verify that Mugen power LiIon battery is superior comparing mAh to mAh against stock HTC batteries. I mean its not just BS they do have respected branch in the market when it comes to manufacturing batteries which is durable and long lasting which is tested by many. But for it to work you have to completely discharge it few times I normally do it for 2-3days before actual use for optical performance.
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This SS is of Mugen Power 1300 mAh right after fully charged.
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HyperNode said:
Okay so this morning after I replaced the Mugen battery with stock battery I fully charged it and took this screenshot.
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Now keep in mind the stock battery is 1230 mAh and the Mugen power stock size battery was 1300 mAh. So the only difference here was 70+ extra mAh yet after extended test and usage I can respectfully say I got 3-4hours extra with Mugen than the stock size which is alot when you compare the batteries and its only 70 mAh extra which is nothing.
Now keep in mind from those SS the TBattery 0.60 does not verify the actual full mAh as its preset to the max of stock battery which is bug in the program. At the beginning to me it did seem the stock battery was superior as time went on and after many full discharges, Mugen power battery come on top.

It's here
Mugen Power has the Extended battery with door listed on their website now....
ww.mugen-power-batteries.com/t-mobile/t-mobile-mytouch-4g.html

Hobbit1968 said:
Mugen Power has the Extended battery with door listed on their website now....
ww.mugen-power-batteries.com/t-mobile/t-mobile-mytouch-4g.html
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I checked the site out but couldn't get a good picture up close to look at the battery and cover. Have you purchased this yet?
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Both battery's are listed but aren't shipping till Feb. 18th. They could be manufacturing them. 1650mah is the normal sized one. I think I will get that one.

~~Tito~~ said:
Both battery's are listed but aren't shipping till Feb. 18th. They could be manufacturing them. 1650mah is the normal sized one. I think I will get that one.
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I think I might also. Not sure about the extra bulk of the big one.
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Wait for sometimes as 1650mAh is selling for $47 ATM which is a lot considering mAhs per dollar count, also they are out of stock. Trust me guy I am pro mugen fella as you can see my SS few post above, ill wait till it hits 30s.
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QCell Galaxy Note i9220 4150mAh Extended Battery / i9220 2800mAh Slim Battery

QCell 4150mAh Extended Battery / 2800mAh Slim Battery
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SK5FO2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006SK5I44
This is the highest mAh Rating battery I found on Amazon for Galaxy Note.
Will update on results as soon as friend who i got this for uses it
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4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast

Wow! Thanks for the heads up on this. Ordering one of each.

Would love to hear the results on the slim battery - wonder if it really reads higher than the stock 2500mah battery.

These seem awfully cheap. Is QCell a reputable manufacturer of batteries?

omg it looks so ugly and for sure it will burn your galaxy note... have fun ^^

Waiting eagerly for reviews of both ...
Somewhat dubious at that price though

Can you please post some picture with the extended battery and cover attached to the Note

Here's pretty accurate picture

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Here's pretty accurate picture
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Haha oh dude

kdskamal said:
4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast
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Voltage * capacity = total power
Your laptop battery is around ~15V, which is 4 to 5 times higher than the battery in the note.

the lack of the polarity signs on top, and the price , and the fact that they are chinese batterys http.. etc etc ..superexporter.com/suppliers/quality111699398794775225-ningbo_qcel_battery_co_ltdDOThtml (can´t post links) makes me believe that they are just like all the others chinese fakes in ebay, worth the buy .. but don´t be expecting big mah numbers.. in fact don´t even expect 80 % of the mah of stock battery

heavylift said:
the lack of the polarity signs on top, and the price , and the fact that they are chinese batterys http.. etc etc ..superexporter.com/suppliers/quality111699398794775225-ningbo_qcel_battery_co_ltdDOThtml (can´t post links) makes me believe that they are just like all the others chinese fakes in ebay, worth the buy .. but don´t be expecting big mah numbers.. in fact don´t even expect 80 % of the mah of stock battery
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Agreed. I get about 50% of 'stated' mAh on my Chinese batteries. Still a good buy, don't get me wrong, but I am going to pay the extra $15 to get a stock battery now.

Did the 2800 give you more time or its fake?

isn't those chinese batteries harmful for the device .... and can any one post an image for the battery usage

kdskamal said:
4150mAh? That is more than my laptop's battery. I would love to see what kind of runtimes you get with that beast
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4150mAh @ 3.7 volts though. I bet your laptop battery runs closer to 15 volts! THe more important figure is how many watt/hr's the battery can supply.
4150mAh @ 3.7v = 15.2625 watt/hr (4.125*3.7)
4150mAh @ 15v = 61.875 watt/hr (4.125*15)

anyone with the test reports of the same

not worth it.
I bought one of each and the slim one did not even last a day. And the thick one lasted exactly a day. I was surfing the net for about one hour constantly texting maybe a 2hr phn call total. And some games like temple run and asphalt. I still recommend the mugen 3400mah this lasted me a day and a half doing the same things.

dominiciselga said:
I still recommend the mugen 3400mah this lasted me a day and a half doing the same things.
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Link to this one please?

A8 Battery for Samsung Galaxy 3 (1500mAh)

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Price: £1.77 (+ £0.64 shipping)
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Battery For For Samsung i5800, quality is guaranteed, but not Original.
Cell type: Lithium Ion.
Stay connected with families and friends by getting extra battery power today!
Keep an extra battery charged and handy for those long meetings and conversations.
This replacement battery has an integrated microchip that prevents overcharging and lengthens battery life.
Best replacement for the original battery with comparable standby and talk time. Great bargain with excellent quality guaranteed!
Voltage: 3.7V.
Battery has a Power Rating between 1250mAh - 1500mAh.
Charging time is about 4-5 hours.
Integrated microchip prevents overcharging & lengthens battery life.
The battery operation time depends on conditions such as: Transmitting power level; Signal (distance between the phone and the base station); Network parameters defined by the operator.
You Never need to condition your battery after the first 3 cycles! Charge the initial 6-hour battery charge with the cell phone turned off.
Note that a new lithium ion battery's full performance is only achieved after 3 complete charge and discharge cycles.
Note: NO Retail Box. Packed Safely in Bubble Bag.
My Opinion
-I bought it and it lasts more than my 1.5 year's old Samsung's battery. Its cheap. I recommend it.
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where to buy ???

Didn't you already bought 1650 mah Battery from ebay? I am confused now which one to buy??

kyrillos13 said:
-I bought it and it lasts more than my 1.5 year's old Samsung's battery. Its cheap. I recommend it.
Ebay link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-A8-Re...ltDomain_3&hash=item2eba32dd43#ht_2279wt_1270
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@kyrillos
i am looking for a new battery should i go for this or the 1650 one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450440
which one is better.
will buy after confirmation frm u....
Or shld i go for a samsung original ???

Shankermk said:
@kyrillos
i am looking for a new battery should i go for this or the 1650 one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450440
which one is better.
will buy after confirmation frm u....
Or shld i go for a samsung original ???
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+1 for this. Anyone?

Shankermk said:
@kyrillos
i am looking for a new battery should i go for this or the 1650 one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450440
which one is better.
will buy after confirmation frm u....
Or shld i go for a samsung original ???
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Buy this. Lower price, same quality (with the 1650mAh, not with the Samsung's one) ...

Thanks Kyrillos, I just brought two of theses. I will give a feedback after some days of use ^^

ordered one myself but they hint at 30 days for delivery :S will let you knw how they turn out when i get these,,,

Shankermk said:
ordered one myself but they hint at 30 days for delivery :S will let you knw how they turn out when i get these,,,
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I got it within 15 days

Would I be better off buying a third party, supposedly high capacity battery like this one or buying an original Samsung battery? I'm looking for an extended battery life, but I read none of the "high capacities" perform substantially better?

I received my new battery a few days ago, it last less than my old one, I hope this is only due to calibration time and things will get better in a few day...
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My battery last quite more after a week of use. And the one I gave to my girlfriend is also quite better than her old one.
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Also ordered one, shipped yesterday to Belgium, let you know when it arrives and if it makes a difference. .....
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even i can vouch for the battery... using since a week now definitely better back than my 1 yr old original samsung...

What's the price of this battery in India? And where can I buy it in India?
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Battery arrived yesterday, into the phone and left it switched off for first 8hour charge. Battery is already way better than my old one, going to let it drain completely and recharge overnight for the next 3 days,then I'll report back.
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Ordered a A8 battery for INR 254/- including shipping and Foreign currency exchange charges, now waiting for it to arrive. shipped already.

Already first charge lasted 2 days, sometime I was charging 2-3 times in one day with old battery, now on second charge cycle...
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sameer.pur said:
Ordered a A8 battery for INR 254/- including shipping and Foreign currency exchange charges, now waiting for it to arrive. shipped already.
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Where u have ordered? how is the battery back up?

Darn, only excluded european country
But, lol, it ships from china and china is on the excluded list!