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Which rom is better? Imate Jasjar or Ivan

Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.

stanip said:
Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.
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On my mda pro, ivan's beta 13 works very good. the imate rom does not work so good, it is slow and sometimes my device freezes.

stanip said:
Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.
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I'v tried Ivan's beta 8, 10, 12, 13, and both roms from Jwrightmcps; on my qtek9000 Jwrightmcps's Jasjar rom works definitively better.

Hi Xanadu, could you please more specific on where you see as better? Just a general comment on "better" does not really help me to decide... Thanks.

Hi stanip !
Try both ROMs and you will see which ROM works better on YOUR Universal.
That's the best way to make a decision...

Understand your point re testing it out.
Each rom update took me a fair bit of time (2-3 hours) as I need to reinstall about 10 softwares to my Universal and I need to reenter all the password, settings...etc.
Getting tired of keeping on refreshing... Hope to leverage the experience of other forumers.
Thanks.

My own experience...
I have not used Jwrightmcps's as much (just started playing with it in the last couple of days), but it seams better overall for me. I'm using a MDA Pro on T-Mobile.
It also seams quicker. It's all very subjective at the moment. Biggist factor is probably simply that I have not 'fully loaded' it with tonnes of apps yet.
Things I've noticed which I don't think would be effected by all teh apps being installed.
For Jwrightmcps's :
It does not freeze/loose signal with phone like it did with Ivan's Beta 13. But then I have also switched to Radio 1.11. I don't tink this is the reason though (old radio was fine prior to AKU3.2)
The camera software does not have as much noise on the Screen.
I don't like the Battery Icon on Today screen at the bottom. It shows full till battery is down to around 60%.
Love having USB Drive mode
Laptop finds more BT Profiles.
I'm hoping the competition drives both forward. But since nobody is actually being paid to do anything, don't see why it should. Many thanks to both for all the efforts they are making.
Zuber

stanip said:
Hi Xanadu, could you please more specific on where you see as better? Just a general comment on "better" does not really help me to decide... Thanks.
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I agree with Zuber, plus I need smartdialer for my 1200 contact, but Ivan's beta 13 rom don't have smartdialer; as I installed it separetely, it took 6 MB RAM.
Sure, the best way is testing both then you can decide....

Jwrightmcps's has more thing than I-Van's but sometime It freezes

Zuber said:
My own experience...
I have not used Jwrightmcps's as much (just started playing with it in the last couple of days), but it seams better overall for me. I'm using a MDA Pro on T-Mobile.
It also seams quicker. It's all very subjective at the moment. Biggist factor is probably simply that I have not 'fully loaded' it with tonnes of apps yet.
Things I've noticed which I don't think would be effected by all teh apps being installed.
For Jwrightmcps's :
It does not freeze/loose signal with phone like it did with Ivan's Beta 13. But then I have also switched to Radio 1.11. I don't tink this is the reason though (old radio was fine prior to AKU3.2)
The camera software does not have as much noise on the Screen.
I don't like the Battery Icon on Today screen at the bottom. It shows full till battery is down to around 60%.
Love having USB Drive mode
Laptop finds more BT Profiles.
I'm hoping the competition drives both forward. But since nobody is actually being paid to do anything, don't see why it should. Many thanks to both for all the efforts they are making.
Zuber
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Can you receive MMS with the new MMS Composer included? Would you mind sending yourself one and confirming you can receive and download it?

[BENCHMARK] - LVSW vs. WM Black 1.1 vs. WMXL 0.2

Hi Everyone,
To give xda lovers an idea on the performance characteristics of the most popular 3 WM6 releases, i have just spent the last few hours doing a benchmark using SPB.
The test set up was:
1. OS Flash only
2. No additional Apps after fresh Hard Reset (except SPB Benchmark)
3. Imate Jasjam HT647
4. Main test completed only (no storage card or battery life)
The results speak for themselves (the highest achieving score is marked in red)
EDIT: I forgot the Vanilla ROM. Will update tomorrow, time for sleep, its 5am GMT+10. and only 5 hours sleep in the last 2.75 days.

Thanks,
I know everyone was looking for something like this. Now I know I choose the right OS flavor

Excellent work!!! the dark side wins! wow... maybe I should try it after all

I have a request for all rom cooker and publisher:
PLEASE, once relased a rom, write in the FIRST post:
All possible information about used memory at HR (RAM & Programs).
All reg tweaks included
All external programs installed
Other tweaks like video drivers etc.
All new issues resolved (like VoIP & others)
Someone has done it, someone not. Please post yours cooked rom in this way, so we all can do the right choice, in base at our necessity.
regards

Every time I think I have seen just how resourceful this group is someone comes out of the woodwork and does the yet another thing to surprise me.
(That and a friendly act of one-up-manship )

Many thanks i've been wondering if there was much difference in the speed of the ROMs, now i know. Does any one know how the WM6 ROMs compare to WM5 ROMs speeds?

Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!

Izzard-UK said:
Yeah - the results do speak for themselves. In my humble opinion, they demonstrate that there is almost nothing to choose between the ROMs in this test because the differences are really tiny. I wonder if you'd even get the same results if you ran the tests a second time?
Thanks for running the tests - interesting stuff!
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Sanity! A valuable exercise, but no meaningful difference. Is there en equivalent table for some WM5 ROMS? I keep hearing that WM6 is quicker.

The tables we saw for the different WM5 roms (especially comparing the stock TyTN rom with the south africa and AKU3.3 test roms) were VERY helpfull and the differences were quite noticeable (stability-wise aswell as speed), the WM6 comparisons are all pretty much the same, did the Vanilla rom get a mention at all??
Once we see a full Hermes WM6 rom (from iMate, HTC, Dopod et all) cooked for LVSW,Black or WMXL i predict we may see a noticeable difference from these current ones.
Good thread

What's really frackin kewl about this whole thing is
1. All the roms kick arse.
2. We have a WM6 ROM
3. Have multiple WM6 roms to choose from
4. Start @ 1. and repeat
Don't you just want to laugh! XDA LIVES and it is livin in WM6!

now i personally havent tried any of the wm6, as me and a few others are currently cooking a rom with PTT, i cant go without this feature so i am being patient... I have loaded a few up on my test phone, but havent fully given them a test drive yet... so im not putting anyone or any rom down with this comment, but its something you must realize... fastest doesnt necessarily mean its the most stable. and even if you find one that is stable with your apps doesnt mean its going to be stable for the next guy, its all trial and error

LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.

Penske MB said:
LSVW seems to be the one that runs the most stable without issue and pretty speedy
WM Black runs the fastest, but most unstable for me. Maybe it just the applications I installed having issues. I will works on it again tonight. (After 5 flash......)
WMXL 2.0 has really good features and runs pretty stable too, but somehow it runs slower than other two. A very good custom ROM.
Again, I am not a preofessional give a fair overview. This is just my experience with all 3.
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i completely agree with you...i tried all three and lsvw seems to be the most stable

Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk

Hi guys,
the benchmarks I did last night for the 3 roms were done after a clean HR with no additional hacks patches, hence, as they were release by the chef's.
There isnt a significant difference in speed between the three but you will notice that WMXL has around 20mb of free RAM on a fresh HR as it loads more UI data etc in RAM to provide a faster response (this was checked with SKTOOLS).
It will be interesting to see how these roms compare against an official WM6 hermes ROM if one will ever be released.
Nonetheless, as these roms are cooked, expect to find bugs or undisclosed features. If bugs are found, the chefs will try and resolve them etc. Also remember that even though our HERMES are essentially the same, some ROMS wonts work on som devices, so you might have to see what works for you. luckily my JASJAM is compatible with all the roms posted so far so it is pretty universal.
Enjoy the contributions guys and if you can, please donate the xda-developers for the help it has iven you.

I agree that LSVW ROM is the most stable among 3 WM6 ROMs

hatori said:
Same OS, the test results didn't show any significant different..........just a little bit.
It will be better and perfect test ,if u compare with WM5.
Thk
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i will do this soon, give ma an hour....or so.....
mtty is getting a work out.
I will flash SA1.35 and an AKU3.3 ROM.
and then post the results in the first post.

Ping Jasjammin, did you do the WM6 v WM% benchmark? Be good to see how they compare on a fresh comparable install

Most stable firmware?

Hi,
You guy's have to bear with me...
I am waiting for my MDA Pro. It is a german model, so when it arrives I want to get a portuguese or english firmware on it.
So far so good.
What I would love to know is which ROM-releases are considered the best, with "best" meaning:
- every aspect of the device works
- the software is stable
- good speed
- less battery consumption
Which ROM would you guy's recommend?
I don't care that much about good looks and "state of the art". What I want is a working device. It should work fine with my bluetooth carkit and my bluetooth GPS-receiver. I do make much use of WLAN as well.
Thanks,
vma

vma said:
Hi,
You guy's have to bear with me...
I am waiting for my MDA Pro. It is a german model, so when it arrives I want to get a portuguese or english firmware on it.
So far so good.
What I would love to know is which ROM-releases are considered the best, with "best" meaning:
- every aspect of the device works
- the software is stable
- good speed
- less battery consumption
Which ROM would you guy's recommend?
I don't care that much about good looks and "state of the art". What I want is a working device. It should work fine with my bluetooth carkit and my bluetooth GPS-receiver. I do make much use of WLAN as well.
Thanks,
vma
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If it's in that order (with almost complete stability), stick to the manufacturer's ROM. Alternatively, I find Jwright's 2.02 almost perfect and use my uni for the same things as you. Read the thread on his ROM before you dive in, though.

Most stable firmware!
This is the most stable fimware for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298020
I have also tested all other ROM's and some times it freezes or it's slower or some programms cannot run.
Helmi's ROM is also an good option, but I have problems with my bluetooth Parrot 3200 LS-Color carkit.
Since I have installed it (a week ago), all my problems are fixed!!!
No freeze, verry fast, my own language, all programs work.
It is PERFECT.....
So i can recommand the DarkForce ROM for Qtek 9000.
Regards,
**** Zevenbergen

I think jwrights ROM 2.02 is the most stable one i have ever used .

Thanks!
vma

I'm using Helmi's AKU3.3 ROM 2.50.00 and for last is the one that is working the best for me so far. I tried AKU 3.5 but with the issue of the speed dial made me stay away from it.
But maybe soon I will be trying upgrading to WM6... just need to be sure it's behaving at least as good as the one I have now

vma said:
What I would love to know is which ROM-releases are considered the best, with "best" meaning:
- every aspect of the device works
- the software is stable
- good speed
- less battery consumption
Which ROM would you guy's recommend?
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Well mine is best... As in the one I made in the kitchen; well it suites MY needs
Seriously, you will never know by just asking on here, people have come to metaphorical blows over which ROM is best.
It really does seem to come down to factors like what you use it for and how you use it, there are too many variables and what is good for me may not be for you.
I wouldn't even say that the official ROM you get with your device is the best for stability; I found the O2 Exec ROM was painfully slow and constantly requiring a reset.

[Q] WM6.1 that's similar to Schaps'?

It seems that schaps has fallen behind with releasing the latest 6.1 (due to personal things that he has to deal with), and I've been looking to install a new release on my phone. Which version out today comes closest to what schaps had?

I'm currently using Pays v3.05 lite and I would say its pretty close to schaps ROM's.

MrDSL said:
I'm currently using Pays v3.05 lite and I would say its pretty close to schaps ROM's.
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Did you notice battery drain with Pays ROM?
Cheers

ibeqa said:
Did you notice battery drain with Pays ROM?
Cheers
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Honestly I think I need a new battery because its been messed up for awhile so I couldnt say for sure.

ive changed from schaps to pays and the battery drain is over! it's a bug from all schaps versions

My clean version is similar to Schaps'. See link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372118

tehCORE said:
ive changed from schaps to pays and the battery drain is over! it's a bug from all schaps versions
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I have to say thats a bit unfair. My battery life is much better since I upgraded from WM5 std ROM to Schaps 4.31.
It seems each of us has a different experience and that can be as simple as installed apps location or as random as brand of storage card.
The Chefs put in a lot of effort and to slate a whole series of ROMS from one Chef is unfair and quite probably unjust as I know of several people who are also using Schaps ROMS and experience no such issue.

did you noticed the WM6.1 build number of 4.40 rom by schaps ? is by far the highest ....
Not behind ... just the opposite

Schaps 4.40 - BETA!
Did you noticed, that Schaps 4.40 is not stable BETA version? There are newer and better WM6.1 ROMs. Pays and ShadoW are very good.

I've also been looking for something...waiting for Schaps really. So, should I go Pays?

Faria / Dr Puttingham WM6.1 Collaboration rom
Haven't tried K's or Pays wm6.1 roms but i have to say the Faria/Dr Puttingham collaboration has been my favourite so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368317
Currently waiting for their latest release which should be out in a couple of days.

I am waiting for a good Schaps 6.1 ROM as well, but I need something new. I might install 4.3x just to get some touchflo going. I am still on 4.0.

what's the advantage of using wm6.1 over wm6?

Diamond = Big disapointment

Hi to all
I just bought my new diamond, and i must say that i regret that i bought it.
I had a HTC P3600 and by changing to diamond i thought that i would get a really good pda.
I was wrong.
Too slow, bad gps reception...
Correct me if im wrong but P3600 (Trinity) gives 10 to 0 to diamond.
Never had any problems with gps, now i cant get gps reception.
Rom speed in P3600, even in WM3.5 is way better, diamond is tooooo slowwwww.
Please if i'm wrong tell me so, because i regreat the day i trade my Trinity for a diamond.
Sorry about my english

zenga said:
Hi to all
I just bought my new diamond, and i must say that i regret that i bought it.
I had a HTC P3600 and by changing to diamond i thought that i would get a really good pda.
I was wrong.
Too slow, bad gps reception...
Correct me if im wrong but P3600 (Trinity) gives 10 to 0 to diamond.
Never had any problems with gps, now i cant get gps reception.
Rom speed in P3600, even in WM3.5 is way better, diamond is tooooo slowwwww.
Please if i'm wrong tell me so, because i regreat the day i trade my Trinity for a diamond.
Sorry about my english
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that's only because u didnt flash the right rom. most of ppl here enjoy it.

With the ROM that i use, mine is verry fast and stable, GPS connect quite fast.

NO WAY!!
Yes.....my friends here are absolutely right....there is not even a single person here who regrets buying one (Except u of course ) Jus try flashing a good rom and try using it.....and if you dont like it even after flashing it.....god help u

I think your Diamond needs a new owner.

zenga said:
Hi to all
I just bought my new diamond, and i must say that i regret that i bought it.
I had a HTC P3600 and by changing to diamond i thought that i would get a really good pda.
I was wrong.
Too slow, bad gps reception...
Correct me if im wrong but P3600 (Trinity) gives 10 to 0 to diamond.
Never had any problems with gps, now i cant get gps reception.
Rom speed in P3600, even in WM3.5 is way better, diamond is tooooo slowwwww.
Please if i'm wrong tell me so, because i regreat the day i trade my Trinity for a diamond.
Sorry about my english
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Hi Zenga,
I'm still using both trinity and diamond. Diamond is definitely faster in most aspect compared to Trinity, especially GPS lock.
You can help list out your radio and rom version, so that we can help improve your diamond experience.
Diamond is a drag with the initial official rom and radio, but flashing to later radio and a good cooked rom can make it fly...

jason.hou said:
I think your Diamond needs a new owner.
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LOL...
hksin said:
Hi Zenga,
I'm still using both trinity and diamond. Diamond is definitely faster in most aspect compared to Trinity, especially GPS lock.
You can help list out your radio and rom version, so that we can help improve your diamond experience.
Diamond is a drag with the initial official rom and radio, but flashing to later radio and a good cooked rom can make it fly...
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The Radio is responsible in enhancing the reception of a phone. Not so much the Rom. Please make sure before flashing that you have installed HARD SPL. Then you can begin to experiment with RADIO'S and what not's.
I have to admit, that I would not keep my diamond right out of the box. XDA has made all these devices superior. So with a little patience and less crying, you too will reap the benefits of this community.....

try other ROM and other Radio ,u'll see that u was not wrong !
just only 1 bad thing on diamond that is low battery i think so

To be honest I agree witth the poster. i had an Elfin before and it was much faster. Diamond has limited storage and too little ram. With Elfin I used to try out new roms for fun now its necessity.I have tried 30+ Diamond roms and most give out of memory errors or have lots of bugs. Don Salaris romd seem to get the most out of it but its still sluggish on 6.5 where Elfin handled it fine.

Maybe buying a DIAMOND is now a mistake with all the new phones that came out since it was released.

i have to admit i was a little disappointed bout the speed too when i bought the diamond awhile ago, but on the other hand the VGA screen is really way better then the QVGA i had on my Jade.
After a few months of flashing, tweaking, flashing, tweaking..... i'm more then satisfaid with the performance, keeping in mind that this device is a little out dated already.
I'm sure that when you update the device's Radio and find the ROM that suits your needs you'll start to like it more.
Btw...the WM6.1 ROMS are a little faster in use and the 'older' TF3D interfaces don't consume as much RAM as Sense 2.5 does.
Another point for me is that i've not been able to find a better looking device yet. All the newer devices are so big and square; they all look the same and only differ in size.
And yes, lol.....i'm a woman.

The Diamond is getting a bit old! There's a lot of newer (more interesting) phones on the market. (Ever tried a Android Phone?... WOW they're nice!).
Anyway, I bought my phone a while ago - and I don't wanna spend extra money buying a new phone - since the Diamond IS working ok... If however my diamond should brick or something, I wouldn't buy a Diamond again - I would go for one of the nice HTC Android phones... HTC Hero I think would be my bet now.
There's a lot of interesting ROMs here, that give new life to the Diamond - but if you want a fast device... I would recommend using a lite rom - WITHOUT touchflo or anything fancy like that... just plain WM61 og WM65.

to be honest, i wasn't to keen on the diamond with the stock stuff, but in 30 mins, you can have a nice speedy device WITH GOOD GPS
Fast rom = L3V5Y's 28014 Light rom
although, if was buying now, i would probably choose HD2 (Leo) or Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium)
none the less
i like my Diamond

A diamond is forever

Progress.
I'm surprised the Diamond is still being sold. I've had mine for about a year now.
The gps is laggy but hardly slow at connecting. With the right rom and radio you can get a fast boot and relyable reception. I have to say that bying a Diamond so late after it's release was a bit stupid. If you did buy the phone today then you should be able to send it back for a refund or exchange. In the UK most companies give a 14 day cool-off period so if you aren't satisfied with the phone then send it back and get something more recent.
You can't compare it to phones out on the market today as technology has progressed. It's like getting a secondhand PC off your mate and wondering why it's not as fast as the one you saw at PC world the other day.
If you want fast Windows mobile phone you should do your homework first. I agree the Trinity was a good phone. It had a lot of buttons and good battery life. But it was a bit of a chubby brick in comparison.
oh and Don't let any sales rep dis-wade you. You get what you pay for.

I love my Diamond... Works a treat. Try flashing a new rom.

Thanks
Thanks for all the answers.
I didn't buy a new diamond, but an used one. In Portugal, there's still possible to buy a new one, but for the price we can almost buy a Touch HD.
The pda is beautifull, i was used to really fat and big ones (Qtek S200 and HTC P3600) and this one is really thin.
My expectations were high conserning speed, i thout that if the Trinity is fast on WM6.1 the Diamond must be faster even in the heaviest rom's.
I've tried some rom's, original WM6.1, WM6.5, someones with sense, but none of them satisfied me.
Can someone tell me a fast one? I prefer rom's with manila.
The rom i now use is L3V5Y's 28014 Light rom and my radio is 1.15.25.14
Thanks

try don salari clean basic light rom. Or use the kitchen provided by yozgatg and customize the gen y rom according to your preferences. I've done that with his R4.4A and I always have free rom around 60% (after using it for some hours).

if you like manila you could also try Donsalari's WM6.5/Sense2.5 or 2.1 rom (2.1. is quit simular to original TF3D 2.1, but with some upgrades like the weather home page)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678

I second that!
melgashop said:
try don salari clean basic light rom. Or use the kitchen provided by yozgatg and customize the gen y rom according to your preferences. I've done that with his R4.4A and I always have free rom around 60% (after using it for some hours).
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I second the recommend on Don Salari's ROM. After using the diamond on Dutty's 6.1 ROM for almost a year, I wanted to switch a 6.5 ROM. I've tried quite a few but ended up using Don's basic light ROM. I've been using it for about a month and half now without problems, which is the longest I've kept a rom since Dutty's. I have to admit the roms with 6.5 do make the diamond a little laggy. Sticking with a light rom is the best option if you're a heavy user and use memory intensive programmes.