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Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance
Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).
Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!
chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...
Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!
Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx
Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.
Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...
Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?
Dear All,
first of all....HELLO! I've just registered myself on the forum.
Yesterday I bought the HTC P3600 (Trinity, I think), english version (I suppose it's called wwe). I want to install a cooked ITALIAN ROM, but I read I'm losing the guarantee if I'll do it.
Somebody tell me there is a software that can allow me to re-install the original ROM and avoid the guarantee losing.
Is this right? can someone give me more info?
Thanks in advance for your reply and sorry for my english
Best regards
You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.
ZakMcRofl said:
You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.
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So if I install first the Hard-SPL I can install a COOKED ITALIAN ROM and after I can go back the original HTC ROM and I'll not lose my guarantee???
If I brick, how can I de-brick the HTC?
Thanks for the quickly reply
Best regards
You should try reading the WIKI and also check www.trinityguides.info
Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.
badguy999 said:
Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.
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Thanks for your answer. I installed the SPL-1.20 and I updated my Radio version (1.46.00.11------is it good?). Now I can install every unofficial ROM and in any case I can go back (how?).
Is it right?
Best regards
Hi,
I have recently purchased a HTC Touch Diamond. I purchased it from Orange UK on contract
My current ROM version is: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Ive tried downloading the ROM from HTC website it says device not supported
Can somebody tell me how to update to latest 1.93 ROM. Anyone here that has bought the phone from Orange UK
PLZ HELP!!
You need to install hardspl in order to install any other ROM than the carrier's stock ROM.
I have a Diamond on Orange UK contract which came with the same ROM.
You need to install HardSPL before flashing any ROM other than an Official Orange UK ROM. I tried the official HTC ROM however I much prefer Dutty's ROM as it yielded better performance. I currently use Dutty's 1.5 and will probably flash 1.7 when it is released this weekend.
How about teh offical 1.93 ROM will I be able to flash that
Can you give me the exact method you used also the hard spl version etc signed or unsigned
As far as I am aware Orange UK haven't released an updated Orange branded ROM yet for the diamond, so the only way to flash a new ROM, whether official HTC 1.93 or other 'cooked' rom based on the official rom is to flash HardSPL 1.4 first (unsigned). If you are not comfortable doing that (there are plenty of threads on the subject), then you will have to wait until Orange UK launch their version of an official HTC rom, probably complete with Orange branded TouchFlo 3D - yuck!.
I used the information in the WIKI useful which contains a link to the following site which gives step by step instructions -
http://www.modmydiamond.info/
You can download the latest European ROM from
http://rapidshare.com/files/1376163...igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
Trixster101 said:
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
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Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want
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Originally Posted by Trixster101
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
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mml78 said:
Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want
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No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
Windoze9t8 said:
No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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Gotcha.. Mine is SIM-Free so that will explain why it can flash without hard-spl then, at least the official roms as I've not tried another yet.
Will give it a try. Will contact orange first or go to their repair centres.
I have noticed the device does get hot with original orange stock rom.
I would recommend if admin makes this thread a sticky will help alot of people out
Newbie question and probably an obvious answer. I have installed HardSPL and upgraded my Radio with no problems. I am a wee bit nervous about a full rom upgrade. What will happen to my orange settings (voicemail etc) and if i were to restore my info and programs using spb backup will that restore everything
Windoze9t8 said:
No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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@Windoze9t8
So just to confirm, IF I was able to get the official HTC WWE ROM from their website i.e. "RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05", are you saying that CID Locked Orange UK HTC Diamonds would still be able to update using this *without* having to do the HardSPL update first?
Alternatively.. IF the HardSPL is required.. would I need the HardSPL 1.40 (unsigned) as mentioned above.. or should I be looking to use HardSPL 1.38 Signed as the Official Rom has "signed" in the filename?
Sorry for (possibly repeated) questions - I just want to be sure, and no one has replied as concisely as you before
Ok.. please ignore my previous post.
My Orange UK Touch Diamond would not update with that latest HTC Rom without installing HardSPL 1.93 Unsigned.
I couldn't find 1.40 unsigned anywhere, and the ROM *wouldn't* update with any other version (1.37unsigned, 1.38 signed or 1.24mfg)
Using DiamondCustomRUU that came with 1.37, I copied the 1.93 HardSPL into its folder (this updated the SPL via a hard reset), and then used the RUU that came with the Official Update.
Hello all,
I looked at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413910
If I want to perform Hard Rest (In order to return to clean default ROM 1.37) and then upgrade to ROM 1.93 (WWE_1.93).
Do I only have to download "RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe" from rapidshare, backup, charge device, connect cable and active "RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe"?
Or do I have to do something else before (i.e. install hard spl...)?
because it is not "signed" rom from HTC site?
Thanks,
You need to use a Hard SPL if you do not have a original HTC Diamond and want to flash a new ROM.
if you have a HTC Diamond (not CID locked, either by region or carrier) then you can flash official ROMs from HTC.
If it is locked, then you need to flash a Hard SPL, either a developers edition (which means you can flash any ROM) or a signed SPL, which means the ROMs you flash must be signed by the Diamond Team here to say it is ok.
Personally i have the Developer edition SPL, so i can Flash any ROM.
Cheers,
I do I know if I have CID locked ROM
mugglesquop said:
You need to use a Hard SPL if you do not have a original HTC Diamond and want to flash a new ROM.
if you have a HTC Diamond (not CID locked, either by region or carrier) then you can flash official ROMs from HTC.
If it is locked, then you need to flash a Hard SPL, either a developers edition (which means you can flash any ROM) or a signed SPL, which means the ROMs you flash must be signed by the Diamond Team here to say it is ok.
Personally i have the Developer edition SPL, so i can Flash any ROM.
Cheers,
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CID locked, either by region or carrier?
Where did you buy ur phone from?
For example i bought mine from Expansys, just as a handset, so it is not Carrier locked. so therefore i can flash offical HTC ROMs.
But to flash a 'custom' ROM, or a T-Mobile ROM for example, i'd have to flash Hard SPL (which i have )
I bought it from private store...
mugglesquop said:
Where did you buy ur phone from?
For example i bought mine from Expansys, just as a handset, so it is not Carrier locked. so therefore i can flash offical HTC ROMs.
But to flash a 'custom' ROM, or a T-Mobile ROM for example, i'd have to flash Hard SPL (which i have )
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That brought the phone from Orange Swiss...
Now I see the person in the store installed spl-1.40.olinex...
e_sela said:
That brought the phone from Orange Swiss...
Now I see the person in the store installed spl-1.40.olinex...
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yeh thats a Hard SPL that doesnt require the ROM to be signed, so you can flash any ROM from this site, and any HTC Official ROMs.
Let me know if u need help with anything else
HTC Touch Diamond ROM Upgrade for Hutchison ‘3’ network customers Date: 2008-12-09 Category: ROM Upgrade
An updated ROM is now available for HTC Touch Diamond users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience. ROM version:1.93.861.4 Radio Version: 1.08.25.20
can anymore upload to this forums please, thanks for any help ^^
I'll second this request.
Ive tried to download this file but its not allowing me access to it.
Hi everyone. If you want the latest 3 Australia rom then you can get it rom http://www.diamond-dazz.com/Files/Three/RUU_Diamond_Hutch_AUS_1.93.861.4_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.44.25.24_1.08.25.20_Ship.exe
I have tried installing that rom on my phone but it says that I have an invalid ID or something like that. Obviously it does not like my serial number. I tried putting HardSPL on my phone and still get the same error. It always happens at about 1 percent when installing.
Any ideas how to work around it.
dazz1975 said:
I have tried installing that rom on my phone but it says that I have an invalid ID or something like that. Obviously it does not like my serial number. I tried putting HardSPL on my phone and still get the same error. It always happens at about 1 percent when installing.
Any ideas how to work around it.
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you need to cook the rom by yourself and need to manually update your radio
dazz1975 said:
I have tried installing that rom on my phone but it says that I have an invalid ID or something like that. Obviously it does not like my serial number. I tried putting HardSPL on my phone and still get the same error. It always happens at about 1 percent when installing.
Any ideas how to work around it.
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You must flash Hard-Spl in your device, then it works!
dazz1975 said:
I have tried installing that rom on my phone but it says that I have an invalid ID or something like that. Obviously it does not like my serial number. I tried putting HardSPL on my phone and still get the same error. It always happens at about 1 percent when installing.
Any ideas how to work around it.
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http://www.badongo.com/file/12470950
dazz1975 said:
I have tried installing that rom on my phone but it says that I have an invalid ID or something like that. Obviously it does not like my serial number. I tried putting HardSPL on my phone and still get the same error. It always happens at about 1 percent when installing.
Any ideas how to work around it.
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I have Orange UK Diamond, NO HardSPL and i can flash any official roms with no issues.
I must say this 3 ROM is great, my standby time has increased greatly.
Try to unlock your phone, CID/Security than you will be able to flash any official rom, with out hardspl
Tried HardSPL and that does not work. I can put any cooked roms on there but not the official three australia firmware because of some CID or something like that. What is that 200meg file that you sent me a link to fooie.
Cheers
Darren
dazz1975 said:
Tried HardSPL and that does not work. I can put any cooked roms on there but not the official three australia firmware because of some CID or something like that. What is that 200meg file that you sent me a link to fooie.
Cheers
Darren
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Just use 7zip and unpack the ROM, Take the NBH file out and rar it together with the Diamond RUU. Then flash it.
Thanks guys and gals for everything. I ended up using 1.93 for the HardSPL and it worked. 1.40 did not work. I aslo tried the 200 meg file fooie posted that worked. So both options do work.
Cheers
Darren
Original download link direct from HTC is still working for those that still want it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458047
Hi,
Can anyone please help provide some clear guidance on the following issues and questions:
I recently purchased a HTC Touch Diamond. It was purchased brand new and unlocked from a reasonably reputable Australian store, and is branded with the Australian carrier Telstra NextG, and appears to be running a customised Telstra ROM. The phone is currently being used on the Hutchison 3 carrier in Australia.
The phone has the following hardware/firmware settings:
R 1.00.25.06 (Radio Version)
G 52.31.25.13U (Protocol Version)
D 1.38.00.00 (ROM Version)
Installed ROM Version: 1.38.841.5 WWE
ROM Date: 07/07/08
I am finding that when using the EDGE data connection, whenever I attempt to make a call, the phone instantly crashes and reboots. Everytime. Arrggghhh! I am also finding that when using the HSDPA phone connection it has quite poor signal strength that results in lots of call dropouts. For a brand new phone these issues are very annoying.
I then discovered on the XDA-Developers site that HTC has released updates for their ROM on Hutchison 3 that, according to the htc Australia website, may fix the crash issue described above. Thanks!!! I've found this site is hugely informative but unfortunately for a noob like me, it is taking a while to learn what all the HTC jargon _actually means_.
I originally tried to download the official HTC Hutchison '3' ROM Update Utility but was denied access to this from the HTC website. I'm guessing this may be because the phone is Telstra Branded with a Telstra assigned serial number.
Eventually getting past this, I obtained access to the official HTC ROM Update Utility here:
[1] HTC Touch Diamond ROM Upgrade for Hutchison ‘3’ network customers
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=451
An updated ROM is now available for HTC Touch Diamond users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience. ROM version:1.93.861.4 Radio Version: 1.08.25.20
HTC Touch Diamond ROM Upgrade for Hutchison ‘3’ network customers
Date: 2008-12-09 Category: ROM Upgrade
Download URL:
http://203.73.25.118/download/RomCo...igned_Diamond_52.44.25.24_1.08.25.20_Ship.exe
Also, for anyone interested that can't get past the HTC website serial number authentication process, also available is the latest Telstra ROM (I could access this Telstra ROM with my serial number):
[2] HTC Touch Diamond ROM code for Telstra Network
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=324
Date: 2008-08-07 Category: ROM Upgrade
HTC Touch Diamond ROM code (For Telstra Network customers) - version 1.38.841.5
Download URL:
http://203.73.25.118/download/RomCo...igned_Diamond_52.31.25.13_1.00.25.06_Ship.exe
So, my several related questions are as follows:
1. Is there an exact stepwise procedure that I can use that will definitely not brick my phone? Eg. Something really informative like this post: (http://selfmod.net/?p=7)
2. Reading the posts on the XDA Developers site seem to indicate I need to install Hard-SPL onto the phone first. Is this correct? and if yes, then which exact edition (Noob Edition, or Developer Edition) and version number should be used for the HTC Diamond specifications above? What is the official link for downloading this?
3. Will running the downloaded official HTC Hutchison 3 ROM provided above, without installing Hard-SPL at all, have the risk of bricking the phone?
4. What does Hard-SPL _actually_ do? Even after reading this: (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_HardSPL) it's still not actually clear to me what this really does, but then I'm just a noob.
5. Exactly how do I backup my original Telstra ROM, just in case I need to re-install this.
Any help with these questions is appreciated.
Thanks.
nanohaxor said:
Hi,
Can anyone please help provide some clear guidance on the following issues and questions:
I recently purchased a HTC Touch Diamond. It was purchased brand new and unlocked from a reasonably reputable Australian store, and is branded with the Australian carrier Telstra NextG, and appears to be running a customised Telstra ROM. The phone is currently being used on the Hutchison 3 carrier in Australia.
The phone has the following hardware/firmware settings:
R 1.00.25.06 (Radio Version)
G 52.31.25.13U (Protocol Version)
D 1.38.00.00 (ROM Version)
Installed ROM Version: 1.38.841.5 WWE
ROM Date: 07/07/08
I am finding that when using the EDGE data connection, whenever I attempt to make a call, the phone instantly crashes and reboots. Everytime. Arrggghhh! I am also finding that when using the HSDPA phone connection it has quite poor signal strength that results in lots of call dropouts. For a brand new phone these issues are very annoying.
I then discovered on the XDA-Developers site that HTC has released updates for their ROM on Hutchison 3 that, according to the htc Australia website, may fix the crash issue described above. Thanks!!! I've found this site is hugely informative but unfortunately for a noob like me, it is taking a while to learn what all the HTC jargon _actually means_.
I originally tried to download the official HTC Hutchison '3' ROM Update Utility but was denied access to this from the HTC website. I'm guessing this may be because the phone is Telstra Branded with a Telstra assigned serial number.
Eventually getting past this, I obtained access to the official HTC ROM Update Utility here:
[1] HTC Touch Diamond ROM Upgrade for Hutchison ‘3’ network customers
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=451
An updated ROM is now available for HTC Touch Diamond users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience. ROM version:1.93.861.4 Radio Version: 1.08.25.20
HTC Touch Diamond ROM Upgrade for Hutchison ‘3’ network customers
Date: 2008-12-09 Category: ROM Upgrade
Download URL:
http://203.73.25.118/download/RomCo...igned_Diamond_52.44.25.24_1.08.25.20_Ship.exe
Also, for anyone interested that can't get past the HTC website serial number authentication process, also available is the latest Telstra ROM (I could access this Telstra ROM with my serial number):
[2] HTC Touch Diamond ROM code for Telstra Network
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=324
Date: 2008-08-07 Category: ROM Upgrade
HTC Touch Diamond ROM code (For Telstra Network customers) - version 1.38.841.5
Download URL:
http://203.73.25.118/download/RomCo...igned_Diamond_52.31.25.13_1.00.25.06_Ship.exe
So, my several related questions are as follows:
1. Is there an exact stepwise procedure that I can use that will definitely not brick my phone? Eg. Something really informative like this post: (http://selfmod.net/?p=7)
2. Reading the posts on the XDA Developers site seem to indicate I need to install Hard-SPL onto the phone first. Is this correct? and if yes, then which exact edition (Noob Edition, or Developer Edition) and version number should be used for the HTC Diamond specifications above? What is the official link for downloading this?
3. Will running the downloaded official HTC Hutchison 3 ROM provided above, without installing Hard-SPL at all, have the risk of bricking the phone?
4. What does Hard-SPL _actually_ do? Even after reading this: (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_HardSPL) it's still not actually clear to me what this really does, but then I'm just a noob.
5. Exactly how do I backup my original Telstra ROM, just in case I need to re-install this.
Any help with these questions is appreciated.
Thanks.
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x2 ^^^^^^^^^^
I've have just done this on a Telstra phone but updating to the 1.93 HK rom.
1. Download the Telstra Rom from the link you have to your PC. This will be your backup. You can always re install this.
2. Install 1.24 Hard SPL as per instructions available on wiki and elsewhere. Basically it removes the CID security lock so you won't have vendor id mismatches etc. as this is the way HTC prevents other regional roms ending up elsewhere.
3. After rebooting, flash the 3 rom and install either using the KAISIMG.NBH from the internal storage (method as described elsewhere on this site) or by the USB method (standard exe installation).
4. Chances are this will all go through without issues if you do everything correctly and follow instructions. There is always a risk in doing all of this so there are no guarantees. Should something go wrong you should look at how to recover a bad flash.
I hope this helps.
yozhek said:
I've have just done this on a Telstra phone but updating to the 1.93 HK rom.
1. Download the Telstra Rom from the link you have to your PC. This will be your backup. You can always re install this.
2. Install 1.24 Hard SPL as per instructions available on wiki and elsewhere. Basically it removes the CID security lock so you won't have vendor id mismatches etc. as this is the way HTC prevents other regional roms ending up elsewhere.
3. After rebooting, flash the 3 rom and install either using the KAISIMG.NBH from the internal storage (method as described elsewhere on this site) or by the USB method (standard exe installation).
4. Chances are this will all go through without issues if you do everything correctly and follow instructions. There is always a risk in doing all of this so there are no guarantees. Should something go wrong you should look at how to recover a bad flash.
I hope this helps.
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Hi yozhek,
Your suggestions are very helpful. Thanks!
I found this this link (http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ht...mplete-upgrading-guide-hardspl-radio-rom.html) that seems to quite clearly explain what's involved in upgrading various sections of the phone. It also explains key pieces of the jargon/terminology so after reading this various aspects of the upgrade process are actually starting to make sense.
I also found another post on this site where 'princi' had tried to flash the HTC Hutchison 3 ROM using the Signed version of Hard-SPL (ie. Noob Edition) and it did not work. Apparently the ROM needs to be re-worked and signed by someone/grop on this site... the "Key-Master" i guess? In relation to the issue 'princi' had encountered, someone had suggested he try the Unsigned Hard-SPL (ie. Developer Edition) but there's no info posted so far indicating if this has worked.
In relation to your suggested steps:
Step 1 - done.
Step 2 - Do you mean the Unsigned Hard-SPL (ie. Developer Edition) version? The Unsigned Hard-SPL version currently available from here (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_HardSPL) seems to be a more recent version number than your suggested 1.24 Hard-SPL. Does this matter?
Step 3 - Does the 'Hutchison 3 ROM' upgrade also upgrade the Radio ROM in the same single process, or are you suggesting using KAISIMG.NBH to do this? Is upgrading the Radio ROM really necessary, and if yes, what is the best link to obtain this from? (I did try to find this).
Step 4 - Mate, I hope you're right. Thanks!
Thanks Chaps for notifying that this ROM is available. Just loaded it with no probs using the DIAMIMG.nbh method from internal memory.
For anyone you is wondering why to use this ROM. The benefits are that it adds THREE network branding and a dedicated TF3D "3" tab with shortcuts to several "3" related items. Radio included is 1.08.25.20. Will give it a run for a day or tow and report back.
Hi Guys,
I am experiencing a very similar issue.
My unlocked Telstra HTC which I use on the "3" network, the system volume periodically turns itself off (and it is not just that the volume button has been turned down) and doesn't have any volume until I power off and on again. After reading a number of threads, it has been suggested to download the new Telstra ROM for the phone, but despite having updated the new Telstra ROM, I am still having the problem. I thought maybe changing to the new hutchinson "3" ROM may help with this problem. (or will it not?)
So
1. I have installed the unsigned Hard-SPL and the phone now displays SPL-1.40.OliNex.
2. I tried to upgrade the Hutchinson "3" ROM via the PC using the exe, but it is telling me "ERROR 244: INVALID MODEL ID."
3. I then tried to install it using the DIAMIMG.ndh method, but when it reboots, it asked me to 1.Press vol up to restore man default 2. Press volDown to restore man default and format moviNAND........ I suspect this is not the screen that I am supposed to see. I don't know how to get it to boot off internal storage ROM.
Any useful suggestions gratefully received.
pkilroy,
This is an extract from my ROM reflash checklist that I use religiously. It should get you going.
5. Flash the New ROM
Place the nbh file of the ROM you want to flash in the "Internal Storage" directory, and name it DIAMIMG.nbh
To initiate ROM load, keep volume down and back keys pressed (arrow pointing to the left above call-end key) and press red reset button. Wait for the new ROM to be flashed.
6. Factory reset when new ROM load complete. [Vol Down + Enter + Reset] then [Vol Up]
I have tried it with diamimg.nbh in the internal storage. But after I press Volume down, back <--- and reset, it says loading ... no image file found!! then it stays on the tricolor screen forever.
I have rechecked a few times and have make sure i have not put diamimg.nbh.nbh in the internal storage. Even tried hard reset the phone and internal storage first.
I am able to flash Dutty's ROM on my TD now, but somehow just can't get the HTC official Hutch 3 to work! any other suggestions?