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hey guys, i'm sorry if i'm a bit slow at this, but here it is. I have a 8528, which i unlocked and am using a tmobile sim card. I am using K's rom 1.3a. I have installed the Oz instant messenger from the t-mobile extended rom i found elsewhere. Now my question is, Oz is a text message based messenger (which is why it appeals to me, i have unlimited texts) now whenever i sign on to aim, it connects to edge. I don't believe ill be charged for the edge access, but i don't want to kill my battery by being connected to edge. anyway if anyone has any ideas, it would be much appreciated. Thank you very much all.
Do you mean that OZ (give us a link to info about it) is SMS based messenger system? Or maybe you just confuse "text-based" (using letters, not voice) with SMS (Short Message System in GSM)? So far I've seen only regular data-connection messengers, so it's perfectly normal it requires data connection (like GPRS/EDGE/3G/UMTS/HSDPA) to communicate with IM servers and you are billed for data transfer (price of crouse depends on your agreement and price list).
Oz, which is the basic messenger program that comes with at&t as well as t-moile is sms based. so why would it be connecting to edge?
Does anyone know how to make WM6.1 work with the Tmoblie Trigger mail? I installed 6.1 and tried to do the WM5/6 hack that works but had no luck. I had 6.1 on my phone for a few days and liked a lot of its features, but really like the Tmobile Trigger mail so went back to 6.
nomad33fw said:
Does anyone know how to make WM6.1 work with the Tmoblie Trigger mail? I installed 6.1 and tried to do the WM5/6 hack that works but had no luck. I had 6.1 on my phone for a few days and liked a lot of its features, but really like the Tmobile Trigger mail so went back to 6.
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What is the trigger mail feature just wondering?
Trigger Mail Feature
TMobile has a hybrid push mail that was available under WM5. Basically what happens is you give TMobile.com you email address, POP & SMTP settins plus password. They then monitor you inbox. When an email is recieved thier server generates a text message that triggers you phone to check your email. The text message is invisible to the user and is automatically deleted. The advantage is that you do not have to set you phone to check email every 5min, 15 mins etc. You phone only checks when triggered to do so.
Here is probably a better discription;
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
Anyone have a solutuion for this? Anyone using this feature? Am I the only one that still does? I have 3 email addresses that TM triggers my phone for, most emails arrive in my phone within minutes of being sent.
Uses a txt message? I guess that wouldnt work for me. I dont need unlimited txts, but have unlimited data...so I just have wm 6.1 poll my inboxes every 5 minutes
Call T-Mobile and ask them?
Tmobile does not support WM6.1 on the Dash, and they don't support trigger mail on anything past WM5.
Anyone? You guys always amaze me with the way you can figure anything out, don't let me down now. Am I the only one who uses this? Is there something better out there?
Here I will look into this and get to you asap
I dont think T-Mo charges your account for the trigger mail sms.
If you don't have unlimited Text they will charge you. I am lucky and still have the Tmobile Mail and More plan that includeds unlimited data, text, sms, wifi and 1000 min for $69. I will hold on to that plan until they come up with 3G.
The trigger mail does work great though, don't know why they quit supporting it after WM5
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I dont think T-Mo charges your account for the trigger mail sms.
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How can we still get this?
You have to go to your account on Tmobile.com then goto Communications Tools. Once there you will see a section that labled "About E-Mail' Click on the learn more tab. Once here you will see a picture of your Dash, scroll down to the bottom of the screen and you will is a link that says 'Still want to continue using Windows Mobile 5' if you click here it will take you to a screen where you can set you can set up you email boxes. Basically you tell Tmobile your email addresses, passwords, and pop/smtp settings. Then turn on the alerts feature.
Now Tmobile will silently alert your phone when ever an email is received in any of your configured accounts. This SMS alert triggers your phone to sign on and retrieve then new messages.
If you are using WM6 you have to add several files from WM5 to make your phone work correctly. I have these files but wont post them here unless a moderator tells me it is ok. The files needed from WM5 are
MyEmSMP.exe
TMMEPluginEnabler.exe
InBoxDriverSrv.dll
TmMapirule.dll
TmUtil.dll
tmyemail.dll
For complete instructions on how to configure your phone goto
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
With this enabled your phone only checks email when triggered instead of every 5, 15 minutes depending on how your phone is currently set.
It works great, I would just like it to work with WM6.1 also, I am just smart enough to make it happen.
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You have to go to your account on Tmobile.com then goto Communications Tools. Once there you will see a section that labled "About E-Mail' Click on the learn more tab. Once here you will see a picture of your Dash, scroll down to the bottom of the screen and you will is a link that says 'Still want to continue using Windows Mobile 5' if you click here it will take you to a screen where you can set you can set up you email boxes. Basically you tell Tmobile your email addresses, passwords, and pop/smtp settings. Then turn on the alerts feature.
Now Tmobile will silently alert your phone when ever an email is received in any of your configured accounts. This SMS alert triggers your phone to sign on and retrieve then new messages.
If you are using WM6 you have to add several files from WM5 to make your phone work correctly. I have these files but wont post them here unless a moderator tells me it is ok. The files needed from WM5 are
MyEmSMP.exe
TMMEPluginEnabler.exe
InBoxDriverSrv.dll
TmMapirule.dll
TmUtil.dll
tmyemail.dll
For complete instructions on how to configure your phone goto
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
With this enabled your phone only checks email when triggered instead of every 5, 15 minutes depending on how your phone is currently set.
It works great, I would just like it to work with WM6.1 also, I am just smart enough to make it happen.
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Can you please PM me the files please.
Just PM'd you but I don't have the little paper clip when I try and PM. How do I attach the files?
jdoggraz said:
Can you please PM me the files please.
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I cant attach to a PM for some reason but I sent you a link a site I made with the files. It's open you should be able to get in
I still remember reading on the T-Mo site the Trigger SMS are free but it might be based on having a certain plan.
You have to read the fine print. They are free if you have a SMS plan. Each trigger = 1 text message. When they started doing this with the first Tmobile PocketPC phone the plans for that phone all came with unlimited text. I started with the original Tmobile PPC phone, then the HP6300 and had that when I went to my Dash. I still have the plan from my 6300, Tmobile would probably love me to give it up since I get everything for $69, Tzones, Data, Text, 1000min, Nights & Weekends....
I have been using this on every phone since it first came out on the T-Mobile HP IPAQ. I do not have unlimited test and it does not use text but triggers the phone to convert 701 codes to the actual email. Now you do have to have thier internet option at 19.95 a month. I too love it and have switched from 6.1 back to 6.0 because of this single application. Thats ow much I love it.. (one thing that is different is I am using a PPC)
Glad to hear that I am not the only one who loves Trigger Mail. I really want to move to 6.1, if someone could just get this to work it would be great.
Anyone else have problems with text messaging?
Scenario: I receive a text message, the notification pops up on screen. I have my phone handy, so i hit the reply button.
The phone takes me to Windows Mobile text messaging. I send my text message reply. If the same person texts me back, it is not registered as being read.
So i exit the screen back to the TouchFlo 3d menu. I have a new text message (that i have already seen and read)
So i go to the windows mobile text system to read it...again.
NOW, lets say i have a full conversation with someone. 30 messages later, I still have 30 unread messages, every time i open the windows mobile text messanger, it removes ONE new message, not all.
So, i never get to use the TouchFlo 3d messenger, which is half decent, and the WM6.1 text messenger is stupid.
Does anyone know of a setting, or a third party text program that will over ride this crap, or am i just hoping this all works out.
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
kamitsuna said:
Am i really the only one who has text messaging difficulties?
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this is a known issue my friend...
download SafeInBoxExtender... search the main forum...
it will let you "mark all messages as read" ..
it will cure your problem right up..
*nods* i have it already, it doesnt exactly "cure" the problem, UGH!
We shouldnt have to come up with stupid fixes for stuff microsoft should already have fixed.
Is 6.5 slated to fix some of this garbage?
I have another problem
i cant use the TF messaging
allot of times it tells me message not sent
and if not there is no delivery report
i found out the there is a TF delivery report i must check 1st
but its not fixed !!!
when i go out of the message it becoms unchecked !!
So at the end i used the Win messaging with no problems there
but i wish i can just click the incoming message and reply right away
hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
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hmm how odd, i don't have either of those issues.
Which version of the TP2 are you guys using?
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U mean u reply on sms from the TF thread mode with no problems and u receive a delivery report ???
without having to use the Win messaging mode ?
why me then?
hope any one can help me
my Rom version is 1.19.415.1
dated 06/12/09
im using the sprint TP2
Another partial fix here...Partial because Ive only using the new dll for a bout a week(not sure of long temr effects) & I cant make a successful backup using sprite backup etc without adding the dll files to the exclude list of files to backup.
im not quite sure i understand what you just said.
I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
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I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag. Lets say when you send or receive SMS, your phone lags for a few seconds to sometimes a minute. I have tried a few ROMs and still have this small amount of lag. I believe it might be the radio I am using.
TP2: TILT 2 from ATT
ROM: Feb 7th NRG Sense 2.5 from 21XXX
RADIO: 4.48.25.20
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I had some SMS lag on my stock 6.1 tmobile ROM, but it doesn't seem to be there anymore after I ran the fix to kill the "sent" notification. I can't find the cab for it just now, but you can find it easily in the forums here.
EDIT: I have radio 3.45.25.14, just fyi.
Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
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Thanks. I disabled that. Are you using Sense 2.5?
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I just switched to Sense 2.5. I haven't been using it enough to experience this lag, but I noticed when in a text message and switching to landscape I freeze up on occasion. I have to make sure the text screen is fully loaded before sliding my keyboard.
Energy.RHOD500.21891.Leo_07.Feb.2010
I have the sms lag with official T-Mobile WMO 6.5 and Sense 2.1. When I exit a chat it hangs for 5-10 seconds everytime. I also get lags after sending SMS's. I didn't have this problem with stock 6.1.
What are the chances we get a hotfix from HTC/WMO?
I've had the sms lag with every Manila 2.5 ROM I've tried. Starts out nice and quick and then after about 3 days it's very laggy. Deleting text messages brings it back up to speed usually.
Otherwise no lag here, specs in signature.
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I am trying to narrow down why some of us are having SMS lag....
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It's simple...the core code for the sms app is crap. Like Toleraen said, if you clear out your messages it's good for a few days...or less depending on the volume of text messages that you send/receive. I send/receive anywhere from 100 to 150 messages everyday so my tilt2 doesn't take long to start lagging. The problem is within the windows mobile code. The sms code has been crap since winmo 5. I've had the treo, mogul, tp and now the tilt2 and they're all the same...lag lag lag. That's why you still see the lag even in cooked roms. I don't believe any of the core code is re-written in any of the cooked roms (correct me if i'm wrong). The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag. Either way, you shouldn't need to constantly be clearing out your messages for your phone to work. With all the text messaging people do these days it needs to be a daily task, and who has time for that. Microsoft needs to re-write this app and make it more efficient. BTW, htc released a hotfix for this "sms freezing" for the tilt2 and I installed it on my tilt2 and it didn't make a bit of difference.
So, if anyone out there has actually found a real solution to this, please share.
BTW I have an att tilt2 with the stock 6.5 rom.
imeraz said:
The problem for me is that I need to keep all my text messages (for business purposes) so I will ALWAYS experience this lag.
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I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time. I too need to retain a lengthy history of texts, I just use a solution that stores and backs them up off-device in a way I can quickly reference via a PC...any threads I'm not actively using get backed up (manually), singly or in batches, at least once a day. There's a number of tools that can do this, I personally use MyPhone and Jeyo Mobile Companion.
If your need to keep the messages also dictates that you need them on-device at all times, then you might want to see if any of the SMS apps available for WM have the ability to save them in an accessible format elsewhere on the phone, like in a folder on the SD card (ideally).
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
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I think a lot of the reason I don't experience this is because I keep my sms storage trimmed almost all the time.
This obviously doesn't solve the root issue (which I agree is endemic to WM...the same exact issue occured on my Wizard and my dad's TyTN), but it's a fairly painless way to sidestep it
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I also use a couple of tools to back up my messages (jeyo mobile extender and mIQ live) so I guess there really isn't a need for me to keep my messages on my phone. I just don't have the time to sit there and trim down my sms storage on a daily basis. Deleting messages is also a slow process on winmo. It just annoys me that something this simple and easy to reproduce passes QA and gets released to the public. It shouldn't be up to the consumer to find workarounds for these bugs. Ultimately I think it comes down to trying to keep up with the competition. Microsoft and HTC are trying so hard to keep up with the iphone, blackberry and now the droid that they've really eased up their QA process and let things like this get passed QA just to release a phone. From my standpoint, they're not doing themselves any favors by doing this.
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Yeah I didn't have the text lag with 6.1 either. I find it quite odd and annoying.
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
I also get a lag with the latest mighty rom but its mostly a lag when replying to a text message or even trying to close the window for text messaging it takes 5-10 seconds at times to close. I thought it was something with the software < i wish there was some time of program to overclock how fast the sms software works
wpbear said:
No lag in SMS, see signature for specs.
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How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
imeraz said:
How much text messaging do you do on a daily basis and do you regularly clear your inbox?
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I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
wpbear said:
I text about 500 a month (based on my bill) and I keep a clean inbox. I delete it every few days.
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This is why you don't get any sms lag. I do 500 every two or three days and I don't ever delete. I need to keep my messages for business purposes. I have software that backs up my messages to outlook but I like some redundancy. Either way I don't have time to sit there and clean my inbox on a daily basis and I shouldn't have to. With the volume of texting that I do I would have to clean it every day to keep my phone from lagging. Winmo stores an "unlimited" number of text messages (provided there memory available), yet the phone doesn't work properly if the inbox is too large. To me, that's a feature wasted. If you're going to give a phone a feature, make it so that it works.
Tmobile 6.5 Rom Mine lags all the time. I'm not patient so i soft reset most of the time. it is pretty annoying
SlimJ87D said:
I text about 100 times a day as well. That is sending and receiving.
I was thinking that was the problem too, and as it seems a lot of us that have experienced the lag have a lot of text messages.
It sucks because I like to keep all my text!
This never happened on the WM 6.1 on my Tilt 1 though.
Coming near a conclusion that it is the major amount of text we have guys?
With my GF thread we probably have about 1000 something text messages over the past few months.
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Same here.
Is there a 3rd party application that can be used? The only thing I can do to stop the lag, is to run traditional mode, which is not what I want. (HD2)
I disable the HTC Messaging service and use the WM client.
You can still use the HTC messaging from the contact page of a person, but it sets the WM as the default
See my post here and try it out if you want.
Theres no lag at all.
I still get the lag after I send a message and exit out of the screen to go back to sms inbox, anyone find a solution yet?
Is there any free texting app for wp7?
Im coming from iPhone, so i was pretty much used to apps like TextFree or Text now.
Is there anything similar yet in Wp7? or any app on the way?
Thanks,
Abhinay
I have a question about a texting app for WP7. I don't have a plan with SMS messaging and I am wondering if there exists a free app on the market that has the ability to text a phone through internet without using the SMS feature. I know that both Android and iOS have an app of the sort.
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Look for an app called "Text Me". There's a free version & a paid version. The free version doesn't do attachments, but it works really well.
Everyone you wanna "text" has to have Text Me & it's available for iphones as well.
@ycavan
thnx dude.. cant believe i missed it.. lol.. though buggy, it does the work..
thnx
Not really a free text app then is it... if everyone has to have the application it's basically the same as the Facebook messages!
Be careful with those free text apps though - it's quite common for the receiver to be charged for the messages. I know in the US they get charged anyway (wtf) but elsewhere it's different.
CreepinJesus said:
Not really a free text app then is it... if everyone has to have the application it's basically the same as the Facebook messages!
Be careful with those free text apps though - it's quite common for the receiver to be charged for the messages. I know in the US they get charged anyway (wtf) but elsewhere it's different.
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I don't understand why people don't just email each other... it all uses data anyway...
GenkaiMade said:
I don't understand why people don't just email each other... it all uses data anyway...
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Or even call! Sometimes it's cheaper - depends if there's a connection charge on your tariff. There wasn't on my old network, and a minute's worth of call was cheaper than a SMS so... no brainer.
does the rest of the world not have unlimited text messaging? Or are y'all just too cheap?
What about google voice?
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does the rest of the world not have unlimited text messaging?
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Yeh, we do, but I don't have enough friends to justify the unlimited text package
I think in a perfect world - if everyone was an XDA nerd - we'd all email each other. Majority of my friends still don't have smartphones, though, and those that do still prefer to text. My email's set to manual check anyway because push is stressful (sometimes I like forgetting about work and who I have to pay on ebay)
What's annoying, though, is that I read somewhere that text messages are the most marked up product of all time, and yet nobody seems bothered by this.
Its because no alternative has a monopoly on it. If 70% of smartphone users used whatsapp sms would be cheaper cause most people would start cancelling their sms packages.
Im and free texting apps are fragmented, so most people have to fall back to sms, anyways.
Also, some of those apps arw battery-aggressive (on OSes that multitask).
That is why lots of BB users stay with RIM for BBM.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Tiny text is kinda similar to BBM...i use that to talk to my friends that have a wp7
Bbm preinstalled. Getting people to all install and use these apps is very difficult.
The bigger your contact list, it gets exponentially more difficult - to the point where it isn't worth it.
Was like that for me and whatsapp. No one else wants to install/buy it, so why bother keeping it installes myself?
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My app called "Free Texting" just got approved today. Go check it out
Use Google Voice. GoVoice is a great app for utilizing Google Voice for texting, voicemails, and outgoing calls. I haven't paid for SMS on my cell plan for years and I use texting through GoVoice all day. The $2.99 paid version supports immediate Push notifications too. I think the free one might support Push in the future, but $2.99 is not a bad investment in the interim... considering that the cheapest SMS plan on any cell carrier is like $5 a month and that's not even for unlimited.
pjbcool100 said:
My app called "Free Texting" just got approved today. Go check it out
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No trial or ad-supported version?
thesecondsfade said:
Use Google Voice. GoVoice is a great app for utilizing Google Voice for texting, voicemails, and outgoing calls. I haven't paid for SMS on my cell plan for years and I use texting through GoVoice all day. The $2.99 paid version supports immediate Push notifications too. I think the free one might support Push in the future, but $2.99 is not a bad investment in the interim... considering that the cheapest SMS plan on any cell carrier is like $5 a month and that's not even for unlimited.
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Does this only work in the us? I have never heard anybody here using it.