kinda confused, would appreciate some help - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

hey guys, i'm sorry if i'm a bit slow at this, but here it is. I have a 8528, which i unlocked and am using a tmobile sim card. I am using K's rom 1.3a. I have installed the Oz instant messenger from the t-mobile extended rom i found elsewhere. Now my question is, Oz is a text message based messenger (which is why it appeals to me, i have unlimited texts) now whenever i sign on to aim, it connects to edge. I don't believe ill be charged for the edge access, but i don't want to kill my battery by being connected to edge. anyway if anyone has any ideas, it would be much appreciated. Thank you very much all.

Do you mean that OZ (give us a link to info about it) is SMS based messenger system? Or maybe you just confuse "text-based" (using letters, not voice) with SMS (Short Message System in GSM)? So far I've seen only regular data-connection messengers, so it's perfectly normal it requires data connection (like GPRS/EDGE/3G/UMTS/HSDPA) to communicate with IM servers and you are billed for data transfer (price of crouse depends on your agreement and price list).

Oz, which is the basic messenger program that comes with at&t as well as t-moile is sms based. so why would it be connecting to edge?

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can't get cingular dash to use tmobile messenger

i unlocked my tmobile dash to use with cingular. i was able to use wifi to connect to the internet and surf, but when i try to use the built in T-mobile im messenger, it won't connect. aim stays one the "signing on" progress screen.
I have tried the tmobile messanger with other carriers too and have had no luck - it has something to do with txt messanging. I believe and msg sent with that program is sent via sms. A nice messanger app - that works regardless of carrier is Agile Messanger - one application for every im solution out there (aol, msn, google, icq, yahoo) http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html You can use it free for 7 days after that you have to register.
yeah, i used agilemessenger before. was just trying to get the tmobile one to work since it was built in already.
As mentioned above, T-Mobile messenger is a SMS-based service (uses text messages to communicate back and forth) and not a data service (like Agile Messenger, AIMPlus, etc.) which uses data to communicate back and forth. The reason why you cannot connect to it, is because you are not a T-Mobile customer and therefore not in their SMS network.
I use Agile Messenger and I am loving it. You will need to be connected via a data network though (EDGE, Wi-Fi, BT, etc.) for it to connect.

Text Message every time I get Voice Mail

On my unlocked Dash I get a text message everytime I get a voice mail, does anyone know how to turn this off? I get about 20 VM's per day so you can see how this would bother me.. I hate getting a Text Message for every Voice Mail.
Please Help or I may end up switching back to my Blackberry which I don't want to do..
Thanks
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Thats more of the telco problem, not the phones.
I never had this problem before when I was using my blackberry? Only since I switched phones to my unlocked Dash do I get the text message for voice mail.
crazygman said:
I never had this problem before when I was using my blackberry? Only since I switched phones to my unlocked Dash do I get the text message for voice mail.
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It's something related to your carrier, not the phone. The phone isn't sending itself a text message. Maybe the Blackberry receives a SMS notification of voicemail that is handled differently, and your Dash is receiving it as a text message... Have you signed up for Blackberry service with your carrier? Have you updated your account to non-Blackberry service? Who's your carrier? Have you contacted them at all about this?
I am using Rogers in Canada. I have a blackberry account as I am using BB Connect since my company won't allow us to connect to the exchange server directly.
I have talked to Rogers and they said it have to be the phone. We I get a VM, i get the little VM message at the top of my home screen so that is working it is just the darn text message that bothers me..
just double check.. is it a text mesage that goes into your Inbox, or just a notification bubble?
Anyway, if it is a text, a quick and dirty way to solve is temp is to have a SMS blocker in place, to filter out these messages.
Hey cool so is that is piece of software SMS Blocker? if it works like email filtering that would work.. Where can I find a SMS Blocker or is a function of the phone?
Thanks great idea!!
The reason you get a text everytime you get a new voicemail is because your "unlocked" phone does not support the the MWI ( message waiting indicator) that your mobile provider uses. I have T-mobile and they use the reel to reel icon that pops up on the top of the screen when you get a new voicemail. If you have an unlocked phone it may not support the icon your providers phones use.
I've had numerous phones with this company(by choice). I am currently using an unlocked phone that was configured for another carrier's network, some of the features do not work the same, including the Message Waiting Indicator. The goods new is you can probably stop this by having your mobile company take the Message Waiting Indicator off all together. But the Bad news is, then of course you will not be notified when you get a new voicemail.
It's a feature of the Rogers network. I have it on my account too. Still debating whether I like it or not though. I think it's part of the "WhoCalled" feature they have, but I'm not sure. It's definitely part of your Rogers service plan though.
Temp Fix for Rogers network SMS after VM
Hi, I had the same problem. It was really getting to me. Now using phone guard 1.09
Works well.
After download, DONT fill in the country code, or area code screen, just leave blank.(or you will not recieve calls, they will be send to vm, ????not sure why)
On the block screen, fill in ( [email protected] ) {for rogers} in the tel sms #, Name it what ever you want.
No more text after vm.
Later
p.s. the program runs in the back ground. Uses the least mem though.

Help Newb with Softbank SMS.

Hi all,
I have read through some threads and performed a few searches. Everything in regards to this seems to hover around MMS. I dont really care for that but do need to SMS. As I am a phone newb could someone tell me with the softbank setup would I still use MMSLite for doing SMS after slapping on one of the new WM6 ROMS?
Or, can I just dump a station setting somewhere in WM6 for Softbank that will allow me to do SMS.
Thanks,
I to use an X01HT on Softbank and have tried almost all of the WM6 ROMs and SMS works normally. You don't need to do anything special or load anything extra it just works.
Correct, SMS just works. Just pop in your SIM and that's all you need. MMS is a different story.
Thanks guys,
I worked it out now. I was not aware that Softbank could only send SMS to other vodafone/softbank users. It seems we cant send to anyone else on docomo etc. Well, at least I get an error when I try to send an SMS to anyone else on another network. How stupid is that.
Does phone to phone email work? What I mean is I used to be with vodafone and had one of their email addies for my mobile, kind of like push email I suppose. Is Softbank doing the same thing and does it work after flashing or are we stuck with just SMSing to mobile numbers on our network.
Thanks again,
Japanese telco companies are not really friendly, and tend to jealously hold onto the features/etc on their networks, so they will not design their systems to allow cross carrier SMS... it would save you too much money.
Sending SMS's to carriers abroad from Sotbank phones work, but be prepared to spend about 100 yen per message (outgoing or incoming).
Also, the "normal" mail that you were sending was MMS, so you would need to get a hold of MMSlite or the setting for Softbank MMS to get it up and running. I personally use my Gmail and a push-mail account from Mail2Web instead... it cost me $2 a month for the pushmail, but it allows you to sync you calendar, contacts, task as well (works as a backup) so it is worth it to be able to change phones, phone numbers, carrier, etc without changing my e-mail or losing my data! Also, I can check any big message/attachments on Gmail. Works out pretty well.

Tmobile Trigger Mail on WM6.1

Does anyone know how to make WM6.1 work with the Tmoblie Trigger mail? I installed 6.1 and tried to do the WM5/6 hack that works but had no luck. I had 6.1 on my phone for a few days and liked a lot of its features, but really like the Tmobile Trigger mail so went back to 6.
nomad33fw said:
Does anyone know how to make WM6.1 work with the Tmoblie Trigger mail? I installed 6.1 and tried to do the WM5/6 hack that works but had no luck. I had 6.1 on my phone for a few days and liked a lot of its features, but really like the Tmobile Trigger mail so went back to 6.
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What is the trigger mail feature just wondering?
Trigger Mail Feature
TMobile has a hybrid push mail that was available under WM5. Basically what happens is you give TMobile.com you email address, POP & SMTP settins plus password. They then monitor you inbox. When an email is recieved thier server generates a text message that triggers you phone to check your email. The text message is invisible to the user and is automatically deleted. The advantage is that you do not have to set you phone to check email every 5min, 15 mins etc. You phone only checks when triggered to do so.
Here is probably a better discription;
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
Anyone have a solutuion for this? Anyone using this feature? Am I the only one that still does? I have 3 email addresses that TM triggers my phone for, most emails arrive in my phone within minutes of being sent.
Uses a txt message? I guess that wouldnt work for me. I dont need unlimited txts, but have unlimited data...so I just have wm 6.1 poll my inboxes every 5 minutes
Call T-Mobile and ask them?
Tmobile does not support WM6.1 on the Dash, and they don't support trigger mail on anything past WM5.
Anyone? You guys always amaze me with the way you can figure anything out, don't let me down now. Am I the only one who uses this? Is there something better out there?
Here I will look into this and get to you asap
I dont think T-Mo charges your account for the trigger mail sms.
If you don't have unlimited Text they will charge you. I am lucky and still have the Tmobile Mail and More plan that includeds unlimited data, text, sms, wifi and 1000 min for $69. I will hold on to that plan until they come up with 3G.
The trigger mail does work great though, don't know why they quit supporting it after WM5
GJSmith3rd said:
I dont think T-Mo charges your account for the trigger mail sms.
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How can we still get this?
You have to go to your account on Tmobile.com then goto Communications Tools. Once there you will see a section that labled "About E-Mail' Click on the learn more tab. Once here you will see a picture of your Dash, scroll down to the bottom of the screen and you will is a link that says 'Still want to continue using Windows Mobile 5' if you click here it will take you to a screen where you can set you can set up you email boxes. Basically you tell Tmobile your email addresses, passwords, and pop/smtp settings. Then turn on the alerts feature.
Now Tmobile will silently alert your phone when ever an email is received in any of your configured accounts. This SMS alert triggers your phone to sign on and retrieve then new messages.
If you are using WM6 you have to add several files from WM5 to make your phone work correctly. I have these files but wont post them here unless a moderator tells me it is ok. The files needed from WM5 are
MyEmSMP.exe
TMMEPluginEnabler.exe
InBoxDriverSrv.dll
TmMapirule.dll
TmUtil.dll
tmyemail.dll
For complete instructions on how to configure your phone goto
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
With this enabled your phone only checks email when triggered instead of every 5, 15 minutes depending on how your phone is currently set.
It works great, I would just like it to work with WM6.1 also, I am just smart enough to make it happen.
nomad33fw said:
You have to go to your account on Tmobile.com then goto Communications Tools. Once there you will see a section that labled "About E-Mail' Click on the learn more tab. Once here you will see a picture of your Dash, scroll down to the bottom of the screen and you will is a link that says 'Still want to continue using Windows Mobile 5' if you click here it will take you to a screen where you can set you can set up you email boxes. Basically you tell Tmobile your email addresses, passwords, and pop/smtp settings. Then turn on the alerts feature.
Now Tmobile will silently alert your phone when ever an email is received in any of your configured accounts. This SMS alert triggers your phone to sign on and retrieve then new messages.
If you are using WM6 you have to add several files from WM5 to make your phone work correctly. I have these files but wont post them here unless a moderator tells me it is ok. The files needed from WM5 are
MyEmSMP.exe
TMMEPluginEnabler.exe
InBoxDriverSrv.dll
TmMapirule.dll
TmUtil.dll
tmyemail.dll
For complete instructions on how to configure your phone goto
http://www.modaco.com/content/htc-tornado-faraday-variants-tornado-modaco-com/239456/how-to-configure-us-t-mobile-push-mail-on-any-rom/#entry854119
With this enabled your phone only checks email when triggered instead of every 5, 15 minutes depending on how your phone is currently set.
It works great, I would just like it to work with WM6.1 also, I am just smart enough to make it happen.
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Can you please PM me the files please.
Just PM'd you but I don't have the little paper clip when I try and PM. How do I attach the files?
jdoggraz said:
Can you please PM me the files please.
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I cant attach to a PM for some reason but I sent you a link a site I made with the files. It's open you should be able to get in
I still remember reading on the T-Mo site the Trigger SMS are free but it might be based on having a certain plan.
You have to read the fine print. They are free if you have a SMS plan. Each trigger = 1 text message. When they started doing this with the first Tmobile PocketPC phone the plans for that phone all came with unlimited text. I started with the original Tmobile PPC phone, then the HP6300 and had that when I went to my Dash. I still have the plan from my 6300, Tmobile would probably love me to give it up since I get everything for $69, Tzones, Data, Text, 1000min, Nights & Weekends....
I have been using this on every phone since it first came out on the T-Mobile HP IPAQ. I do not have unlimited test and it does not use text but triggers the phone to convert 701 codes to the actual email. Now you do have to have thier internet option at 19.95 a month. I too love it and have switched from 6.1 back to 6.0 because of this single application. Thats ow much I love it.. (one thing that is different is I am using a PPC)
Glad to hear that I am not the only one who loves Trigger Mail. I really want to move to 6.1, if someone could just get this to work it would be great.

Slick IM Issues

Every time i open slick i get a message asking to check for updates then it say my version (.43) is up to date i press back. Click connect and the program freezes and i have to kill it. Anyone know whats going on here?
hmm well have u tired unistalling it and then installing
id have to agree with bronco boy...go to lonley cat games website and get the new one...uninstall the old and install the new...should be ok
ha ha bronco boy.. i have nothin to say you won that one.. wat is that 1-1
hey i have question, now i have an unlimited text plan with t-mobile, right now im using OZ Aim (which i believe counts as text messages, not sure im new to this). anyway OZ Aim sucks, it lags ALOT. i used parlingo for a bit before i couldnt anymore (since i didnt have the data plan). is there a way i can use slick or parlingo to make it count as mms? or will i have to stick to OZ messenger.
If I'm not mistaken...(And I could be) I thought I read there is one of the 3rd party applications that allows you to use sms for IM's or data. I would do a search "Instant Messagers" and read through the threads. No not OZ but another. Maybe someone else can reassure you this is correct.
No Palringo will only operate if you have a data plan because it does not consume your SMS unlike OZ messanger which consumes your SMS.
i think has askin for a im client that uses sms other than oz instant messenger.. and i dnt kno of any

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