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What is the best Radio for european user with WM6?
there is no one answer - because in europe there are many operators - some have had problems with some Radios while other work fine with them.
Only thing - try them yourself and stick with the one that works best for you
Hi @all
an answare ther is, my be mar_60 would like to know which is the best radio rom in italy or in the country where he lives. So if mar_60 lives in italy many italian user can answare to him.
In my opinion, 1.46.00.11 or 1.50.08.11 have the same performances.
dormone said:
Hi @all
an answare ther is, my be mar_60 would like to know which is the best radio rom in italy or in the country where he lives. So if mar_60 lives in italy many italian user can answare to him.
In my opinion, 1.46.00.11 or 1.50.08.11 have the same performances.
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The answer is that mar_60 wants to know which radio will perform best for his GPS, GSM etc in the region of Italy that he uses his phone in most (does he use EDGE / HSPDA etc - it's available in Roma - but where he lives? Does he use GPS? I don't know and don't think you do either) for the ROM he has installed (Lasagna) with the TIM operator.
See not simple.
Yes - and if you look in the thread for 1.50.08.11 you'll see plenty of people disagree with you - and have lots of problems with this radio.
Also - it depends on the frequency used by your operator. (There are several operators in each country - and they use different GMS norms. What use to be PCM1800 (now GSM 1800) - I believe is used by Bouygues in France whereas GSM 900 is used by SFR and Orange in France. Bouygues for example has big problems with 1.46 and 1.50 radios - but SFR works great with the radio 1.46 - but not with 1.50.
His question - comes despit the fact that he has 1.50 installed (signature) - so his opinion may differ from yours based on his experiences.
Then you've got the ROM version used which comes into play aw well.
So it's really not as simple as you suggest.
However - what is simple (does not require reinstalling ROM, software or data) is flashing different Radio ROMS. Which is why I say try before you buy and see which is the best for your ROM with TIM in Italia. Capisca?
sorry, i'm on SFR network and i have Rom radio 1.50 and no problem appear ^^
1.50 works great
I´ve radio 1.50 and works perfektly in T-Mobile site in czech, slovak, deutch, austria ...
beitlj said:
I´ve radio 1.50 and works perfektly in T-Mobile site in czech, slovak, deutch, austria ...
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same here in the USA
tamsomlao said:
sorry, i'm on SFR network and i have Rom radio 1.50 and no problem appear ^^
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Yes, I should have been clearer - this just goes to illustrate my point that what you use the Trinity for, what ROM you have and what you network use and coverage is makes a lot of difference.
mar_60 said:
What is the best Radio for european user with WM6?
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Like says nealed , in my opinion the only way for solving your doubt is try 1.46 and 1.50.
Personally i use 1.50.08.11 with lasagna rom , but onestly i can't say yet that is better then 1.46.30.11 or 1.46.00.11.
Ciao
Imdantes
Hi
i saw there are different type of ROM definition. Maybe they are the same but i would like to know what is the difference between WWE and WWE-ME
example:
Rom: 1.37.405.1 WWE and WWE-ME_1.37.405.1 ... why *ME*, what is the meaning of "ME" ?
I could not find anything about on internet. any expert here ?
thank you for the explanation
ME = Middle East
Not 100% sure, but most probably the difference is it has connection settings for ME mobile operators.
thank you so much for le tme know ...
if i put RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.37.456.2 on my HTC , it is possible to go back to my original ROM 1.37.405.1 WWE ..just to see and test the ME
pof said:
ME = Middle East
Not 100% sure, but most probably the difference is it has connection settings for ME mobile operators.
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I've tried some ME ROMs before and I still don't know what the difference is. The Connection Settings app is just the same as other ROMs because it has settings for countries in Europe, Australasia and even the US
I tested different Rom 1.93.xx with different language and all with Radio 1.00.25.05 inside.
Well, what i can say from my tests, even there is Radio 1.00.25.05 inside it doesnt mean "quad band" will work. Some of the firmware just show me 900 + 1800 band . Some 1.93 was very fast with Fltouch and some slow like old firmware.
So my question now: how can we see if the ROM has quad band or not ? Why on some firmware even with Radio 1.00.25.05 inside the "quad band" doesn' work
specialist help is required !!
Hi All,
I had lot of difficulty searching for different articles on how to upgrade my Indian Airtel Locked 2G Diamond to any of the NON-HTC ROMs.
Doubts were in mind as to which version of HardSpl, Radio will work with 2G Indian Diamond, whether Airtel lock has to be removed before upgrade, whether i'll brick my phone if i did not unlock it, so and so forth..
Hence i thought i'll share whatever i did to make my Diamond faster:
STEP BY STEP GUIDE TO UPGRADE INDIAN 2G AIRTEL LOCKED DIAMONDS:
Before going to any steps please note that whenever you use the RUU (HardSpl / Radio / ROM) please wait till the install is over, do not disconnect your cable / active sync connection or use the phone.. Sometimes u may not see activity on the PC/Phone, just wait and wait and all will be fine, u touch the diamond & it may get bricked!!
This tutorial has nothing to do with Unlocking from Airtel Network, and after doing a ROM upgrade your phone is still locked to Airtel only..
There is no need to unlock your Airtel Locked Diamond before going ahead with these steps:
Step1:
BACKUP:
Backup all your files, contacts, sms, PIM etc.. (I used PIM Backup v2.8)
Tip: The internal Storage does not get formatted unless you do a hard reset (anytime later after upgrade), still i recommend to backup your Internal storage.. just in case.., then use Sprite Backup, to backup in total..
Step2:
CHANGE TO HARDSPL FROM SPL:
SPL is like BIOS of your computer, HardSpl is a customised BIOS (Like HP bios may not allow u to tweak ur computer fully, the SPL does not allow custom non HTC ROMs)
To change SPL to HardSPL, use Olinex 1.40 Unsigned, also called Unsigned Olinex HardSPL Developer Edition
From this page download - Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex.zip (1.92 MB, 21113 views)
Please read details of what to do and what not to do during HardSPL on this page.
Tips:
Check whether your SPL is Changed to HardSPL by going into bootloader screen - Press [Vol Dwn] & [RESET] simultaneously to enter bootloader screen
Dont go to step3 unless you have changed to HardSPL & confirmed it on the bootloader screen
Step3:
CHANGE RADIO:
Radio is the sofware that is used to control all the connectivity (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi) & Phone (Which Band/ 3G/2G etc) functions
To change the Radio you have to do two things:
1. Download Custom RUU (A software to install your Radio - Like windows installer) 2. Selected Radio file
Dowload Custom RUU from here
2. Download radio from here, i preferred to use v1.00.25.05, now on v1.00.25.08
Please read details of what to do and what not to do while changing Radio on this page.
3. Extract both files into one single folder & install on your Diamond
Tips:
Changing the Radio is like getting a permission to install unofficial ROM, it wont remove Airtel Lock..
Check whether your Radio is Changed to desired version by doing a soft reset
Dont go to step4 unless you have changed & confirmed the desired Radio version with Soft Reset
Step4:
CHANGE ROM:
You can choose any unofficial ROM to install but as our Indian Diamonds are different (2G), you should be doubly sure that the ROM you select does not include a Radio (Coz all other radios will be 3G) Of course most of the ROM are devoid of Radios and SPL, but also most famous ROM cookers mention what their ROM contains and what it doesnt..
a. Select & Download a ROM, just install it..
b. Some ROMs need you to install it through RUU utility
c. Hard Reset the device once you have finished installing the ROM and make your Diamond a faster & cutomised machine..
Step 'c' is very important for your diamond to work properly
Please read details of what to do and what not to do while changing ROM on this page.
Tip:
I used SwiftBl 6.5... works like charm and flawless.., also used Dutty's ROM - not my cup of tea, as there were no updates of SwiftBL after 05/10/08, now i'm on Pistonripper.. Fast & Furious..!!
Step5:
RESTORE:
Restore from PIM Backup / Sprite Backup..
Thanks to many friends & posts who helped me use an XDA SITE ROM..
This post is mainly for my indian diamondwala counterparts & are only the main steps in brief, and mainly to mention what versions worked flawlessly on 2G version..
Please refer to more details espcially THIS post which gives very detailed account of upgrading..
Hope this post helps few..
Seniors / Moderators please read the article and if mistakes then point out.. I have used simple understandable words for newbies like me..
karkalanand said:
Indian Diamonds are different (2G)
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do u mean that diamonds supplied by airtel are physically stripped off of 3G or is it just a software restriction?
Yes, Indian Diamonds dont have a 3G chip itself, if you look at indian website specs, the processor is different from rest of the world i.e. MSM7206A, while rest of the world it is MSM7201A (MSM7206A = MSM7201A - 3G Chip)
So there's a clearly different hardware..
keeping aside 3G & Quad band , the indian diamond is same as international, right?
Using a 3G 900/2100 Diamond in India...
Many thanks for this thread....very helpful
For a 3G diamond 900/2100 + Tri band GSM...will the Quadband radio v1.00.25.05 work?....
Will the 3G diamond work with this Radio in Europe where UMTS 2100 exists?
What will be the best cooked ROM for such a config? SwiftBl 6.5?
Thanks in advance...
@ karkalanand
hey man i'm lil confused here......i was reading through this thread and came to see that boinger66 claims maybe the indian version has 3g capability , what do u think ?
Indian diamond => 3G?
@blufade
Check these links...found the 7201A specs but not the 7206A ones...dunno why?...
http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html
http://www.jaganath.net/content/mobile/should-you-buy-the-htc-touch-diamond-in-india/210
Surely confusing unless someone flashes using the 3G radio and goes out of India ...to check it out...very expensive test...
btw, does the airtel diamond have gps chip ?
yes it does have GPS .. all the same only its 2G ..
thanks fr the help guys
btw, has any of u guys in india managed to get a pouch for your diamond ?
thats all quickgps does... it downloads information that would help your gps get a faster fix... you need a gps software to actually use ur gps....for eg, navigating softwares for use in india - satnav (www.satnavtechnologies.com/), mapking, inav (http://inav.mapmyindia.com/) ... Or even offroad navigation softwares like Gps Tuner
is it possible to get the simlock back to the phone ???
atul.dharne said:
@blufade
Surely confusing unless someone flashes using the 3G radio and goes out of India ...to check it out...very expensive test...
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Sure enough I'll be flashing my India 2G Diamond (DIAM140) in the next few days with the info given. I think I'm ready after reading for 2 weeks straight.
I'll be leaving from Iraq in Oct. to go to Kuwait, then in Nov. will be headed to Germany, then taking my R&R Leave to the US.
I'll let you guys know how everything works out when I get to the states with it.
Got it on the first try
Hey I gotta say thanks you guys on this site rock.
I'm a N00b and came to this site reading and just getting info for 2 weeks straight and today was able to flash the unsigned hardspl, 1.00.25.05 radio, and swiftbls rom and to my suprise I had no issues. Reading and following directions is what I'm use to in the Army lol and that helped out. Thanks everyone.
Couple of things, it shouldnt matter what the red lettering says when i turn the device on right as long as the tri-color screen says olinex 1.40?
Now i will continue to look through this ROM and if i have any problems I'll read then ask questions if i can't find it.
Hooah. Thanks alot again for the indian diamond tutorial!!!
congrats justo81
now that u've upgraded , any noticable improvement in performance ?
Oh yes lots of notable improvments in performance. When switching to different screens there isnt that lag that was there. The time it use to take my calls to connect on the old radio is reduced now. Almost like I'm in the states and I'm calling people from Iraq!! lol
Still searching in the forums to get GPS working with google maps. Doesnt seem to want to locate the bird (satellite) when I know the direction of most of them cause I'm a commo guy and we log on them on the time
Overall. I'm glad I upgraded and look forward to exploring and adding some more apps with this device
justo81 said:
Thanks alot again for the indian diamond tutorial!!!
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Thanks, i'm happy it's helped atleast one mate..
hi guy pls help me to get airtel pack which came with my dimond i upgraded rrom & i missed it pls help me if posible
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hi guy pls help me to get airtel pack which came with my dimond i upgraded rrom & i missed it pls help me if posible
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No AirTel pack came with my 2G diamond. Its only Content folder in Internal Storage which contains TF3D demo and some audible files. Do you require? I mean Content folder.
HTC too much RAM processes
Guys i have a problem that Touch diamond(Unlocked Airtel )when i launch the music from Touch flow 3D the process percentage(one u can see from quick tab) goes to 70 to 80 even after stopped listening to the songs the process doesn't go down, this makes other applications to work slower ,, could u help me fix this .ROM version is 1.93.720.0 WWE and in HTC india site a new update is released dated 16-1-2009, i couldn't download that(though i had registered my phone) it says my software doesn't support this (when i give my serial number) so please guys help me in this
Thread closed. Please visit the new one.
In my experience, I have only tried 1.25.03, 1.25.05, and 1.25.08 on my MDA Compact IV with Swift's V7.0 Full Rom (recommended!)
Out of those three, .08 appears to give me the most stable (and slightly better HSDPA) signal on T-Mobile UK in the south.
I can't say I have noticed any difference in battery life between .05 and .08, both of which are approx (IMO) 30% better than .03
GPS aquisition - maybe a tad faster on .08, but I reckon it is impossible to make any reasonable judgement. I have certainly had no problems with acquisition on any of them, with all of them acquiring within 30 secs.
WIFI - I use a WPA2 encrypted network, and have never got my diamond to connect with any rom or any radio - it times out on the first key exchange so I cannot really comment at this time.
Hope that helps someone.
newby question:
Is it possible to upgrade radio without loosing all data on my phone?
tnx in advance
mofolino said:
newby question:
Is it possible to upgrade radio without loosing all data on my phone?
tnx in advance
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Yes, I believe it is
Hi you guys.
I heard someone talk about som new Raphael radios? Or wasn't that to the Diamond?
These is original Htc Diamond radios
Radio v1.00.25.08 (Quad Band)(Provided by Dutty)
-Download here
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After updating to this radio, I have get an H down in the left corner, is that normally, do you others. Have this ?
mofolino said:
newby question:
Is it possible to upgrade radio without loosing all data on my phone?
tnx in advance
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You dont lose any data if You use the Custom RUU (Look in the 1 post!!), and if i remember right its precent in all radios if you download from this diamond forum
danny_and_2 said:
These is original Htc Diamond radios
Radio v1.00.25.08 (Quad Band)(Provided by Dutty)
-Download here
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After updating to this radio, I have get an H in down in the left corner, is that normally, do you others. Have this ?[/quote]
Yes in the boot screen.
mofolino said:
newby question:
Is it possible to upgrade radio without loosing all data on my phone?
tnx in advance
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if you flash just the radio...it won't or "shouldn't" touch anything else
ill try 08 today when i get home today from work
Reverted back from .08 to .05 after a couple of days. Seems that .05 is better for me: better UMTS signal reception.
ROM: Swift 7.0
Country / Provider: NL / KPN
GPS: .05 and .08 perform similar
UMTS: .05 is better than .08
judging from these posts i think i'll have to try .08 too, i was on .03 as stock and i've changed to .05 and it was stable enough to not go back, however, an increase in HSPDA would be nice
has is ever been clearly determined if there is a Radio Rom upgrade that will take a European Diamond and get it to function on 3G with ATT/Cingular in the US? If so, which one?
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has is ever been clearly determined if there is a Radio Rom upgrade that will take a European Diamond and get it to function on 3G with ATT/Cingular in the US? If so, which one?
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has it been clearly proved? i have not seen any real proof that it works or does not work. users here say they know and it sooo obvious, but still no written proof. its been a while since that US version has been around and not 1 peep. so, i really just gave up. even with edge speed my phone still fux up any device that comes near.
I have a question what radio version need to use for 3G in 1900Mhz?, thanks..
.08 rocks!
Well, I had bought the Touch Diamond EURO version, not realizing what I was doing. I live in Anchorage, Alaska, USA, I did the Dutty Rom, HardSPL, etc..
Then I went to the .08 radio, WALLA!
Where I had 1 bar or no service, now I have 5 bars.
I am gonna make a donation to Dutty! This is AWESOME!!!
Up here in AK, soon, we will have 3G via AT&T also SUPPOSEDLY!!
These threads ROCK!!!!
a newbie question again!
i tried to upgrade from .05 to .08 but nothing happened and I think that is because I have original ROM.
what I have to do to be able to upgrade radio.
tnx
mofolino said:
a newbie question again!
i tried to upgrade from .05 to .08 but nothing happened and I think that is because I have original ROM.
what I have to do to be able to upgrade radio.
tnx
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flash it
mofolino said:
a newbie question again!
i tried to upgrade from .05 to .08 but nothing happened and I think that is because I have original ROM.
what I have to do to be able to upgrade radio.
tnx
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You can keep the original ROM and update the Radio.
You need to Hard SPL your Diamond (look in stickies for instructions) then download a radio and install.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE DONE HARD SPL FIRST!!!
otherwise you will end up with a Diamond shaped paperweight
i tried .08 Radio but it drains my battery realy fast. Reverting back to .05 again
I disabled 3G because the phone is switching all the time, bad 3G reception in my neighbor
Country: NL
Operator: T-mobile
Band: tested GPRS, tested 3G, no difference in batt usage @.08
No No No.....08.....
I WOULD ADVISE YOU NOT TO USE 08 RADIO BECAUSE I PUT IT AND WHEN THEY WERE CALLING ME I WAS LOOSING CALLS AND IT WAS MAKING 10 SECONDS TO CONNECT AND OFFCOURSE THE OTHER PERSON WAS CLOSING THE PHONE..............I WAS PUTTING BACK 05 AND EVERYTHING IS OK AGAIN...................
BE CAREFUL MY FRIENDS........DONT UPDATE YET........