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Layout Keyboard

Hi Guys, i have a question...
If i flash my WM5 TyTN (Ita) to a WM6 English Version how can i do to have a right KeyBoard layout?
Thx

dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.

well thx for the answer... I search and i found not so much just: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313814&highlight=keyboard+layout+fix
Is it the right way or does exist a .cab file?

Just install Shadowmites HTCustom1.5
It allows you to choose different kb layouts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1271619
It does sound like you need to do some more reading though.

well there is always something to learn
Thx a Lot

Well on this file you told me to download there are a lot of intrestin language but NO ITALIAN

I'm sorry ops
I 'll see if I can find something.

Will this help:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Under the Heading:
"Restore local language support for sliding keyboard after upgrade to a different language ROM"

a program called "HTCustom" would help

takaki said:
a program called "HTCustom" would help
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I guess not.
See the posts above.

mzahiri said:
dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.
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Well at the end i lear to READ and i discover this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297763

Italian layout
Does the Skizzo's cab work for you?
I installed it and now the spellchecker and the dictionary are in italian but the keyboard layout is still without the èòàù etc etc.
Wha cab did you use?
thanks M

yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?

BrigateGB said:
yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?
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No, just the one called : Italian Settings.cab on the first post of Skizzo's thread.

well yesterday and today i try 3 different ROM WWE and in all 3 i use that file for re-map the keyboard layout and all work great...every 3 times...
Bytheway what kind of TyTN are you using? I use a NO Brand Italian one...

How to get Samsung i780 Keyboard Qwerty to Azerty driver ?

Hello all,
i have read through a lot in the forum and have alerady flashed and tweaked a lot my i780 with my readings of your Forum. (after doing the same for my TyTNII !))
Bravo to all BTW.
I have a French i780 with an AZERTY keyboard.
I have flashed with the DXHC4 PDA & Phone ROM found here. Since then I have a QWERTY keyboard when the physical keyboard is AZERTY
I have tried the registry edition in order to modify the keyboard mapping to 040C code in the 3 locations described in the different posts without success as it rendres inactive the keyboard.
I tried the different combinations etc...
Here are the exact lines :
in hkey_current_user\keyboard layout\preload string default e0010409 changed to e001040c
\\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active to 0000040c
Is there an issue with a dll or someting in addition ?
Also, I do use RealVGA in 96dpi with an English pack as the french pack is trashing the i780
Any idea is more than welcome !

Hello the i780 specialists ?
Any Idea what registry key to update ? or which driver ?
do you think a cab like the one for the Kayser can be compiled ?
Thanks

While youre on it, please get us the key for Swedish keyb as well
I flashed with the english ROM as well, and....

I am pretty sure there must be a way and it would be great to know the right registry location - would like to change mine over to QUERTZ as I am having an English rom with a German keyboard...
And ideas anyone?
Thanks
Alex

AE Keyboard Mapper
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.

Juggeli said:
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.
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Yes it work but i creates a very irritating keybaord lag when using the keys that is mapped with AE keyboardmapper.

Yep, I have seen this tutorial, but I must admit that I am not at all interested in the software emulation. I 'd rather wait for a proper OS / registry / hw solution

No news guys ???

First of all, I'm no export in this and want to apologize for my english, cause I'm german.
Me too wants to change the keyboard layout as I have an english rom with qwerty and want to get back my german qwertz-layout.
As far as I've found out there is an registry entry under "HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName" which with my device maps to a dll named "zylonite_keypad_us.dll"
This file seems to be located in the ROM. I couldn't copy it for editing. Maybe someone can develop an idea how to deal with this.

solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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Do you have an I780?
If yes, which of these mentioned steps did you do?
This is not yet working for me. At the Moment the hardware keyboard doesn't work at all...
Edit: So, keyboard is working again. But "z" and "y" are still "swapped". So still not the German- QWERTZ

Same here, ive got an azerty i780, but this tip does'nt work for me

It doesn't work at all
The keyboard is rendered NON active by modifiying these reg keys / strings ...

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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When I change the settings like that thread, my keyboard stopped working
I use the code: 041d for Swedish.
Mind helping out what I need to do? I followed the instructions from that page but the keyboard just stopped working, the hardware keyb that is.

In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís

Before flashing my azerty orange fr i780, i saved HKLM sytem tree, and the dll is the same.
The only difference in HKLM tree is :
\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active
040c for azerty french
0409 for US
But doesn't work on my device

lmbranco said:
In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís
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Or a Swedish ROM since there are a few of us that would need the swedish dll then

I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?

dll is : zylonite_keypad_Us.dll
But totalcommander refuses to copy the file

entropy said:
I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?
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Do you have a registry editor on yout I780?
Then look at: HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName
There should be a .dll listed.
I guess thats the one we need. But I fear, as webise said, that you can't copy this file from your windows folder. As far as I've seen this file is in ROM.

[i780] FR rom connection fix

Hi,
I want to create a bin file with my dumped rom (HHC2 FR), with the Samsung i780 kitchen 0.2 beta, but there is a connection issue.
Like famusc wrote in his post, the problem can be fixed by use another bin with the same language for the conversion. But all the bin I found has this problem.
Does anyone have an old french rom which works fine ?
If not, do you know how to fix this issue ?
Is it possible to fix it with the use of another rom language for the conversion ?
If I find a way to fix it, I'll upload it here.
Thx.

No one can help me ?

We have the same problem with the German rom. It seems that we can't use the kitchen to cook the rom and have to find another way. But here comes the problem. Maybe someone could give us advise....

mievalt said:
We have the same problem with the German rom. It seems that we can't use the kitchen to cook the rom and have to find another way. But here comes the problem. Maybe someone could give us advise....
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I am inclined to port my WM6.1 release to "some" euro locales (Germania, Italino, French etc) I have ideas on how to do that but I don't think I have the time to selectively port the required MUIs.

I understand that, but maybe you can give us hints on how start filtering the MUIs or what you think we have to do. Just replacing the zylonite_keypad_Us.dll and the S00x files brings the result that the layout changes but the mouse and the touchscreen seem to not get along with it...
What do you think???

mievalt said:
I understand that, but maybe you can give us hints on how start filtering the MUIs or what you think we have to do. Just replacing the zylonite_keypad_Us.dll and the S00x files brings the result that the layout changes but the mouse and the touchscreen seem to not get along with it...
What do you think???
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Changing the keyboard driver alone will not be sufficient. You need to have supporting MUIs to make them work in harmony. The MUIs need to be salvaged from pure Fr (for example) rom which runs on the desired DPI. IE, the MUIs must be extracted carefully out from the donor rom and then placed in the kitchen with the proper rgus that correspond to the Lang ID. But finding intact MUIs can be a problem in itself. Was there any official release for i780 Rom in Fr?

I don't know if there was in France, but in Germany we have an official release and I have the dumped files extracted from the clear german rom too...

mievalt said:
I don't know if there was in France, but in Germany we have an official release and I have the dumped files extracted from the clear german rom too...
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So I assume that Germanic keyboard is applicable to Fr as well?

No don't think so because in France they got azerty and we here in germany have the qwertz layout. We just have to change the Y and Z... I don't know if it makes that easier... So you think that replacing the zylonite_keypad_Us.dll or editing it is not he right beginning...?????

mievalt said:
No don't think so because in France they got azerty and we here in germany have the qwertz layout. We just have to change the Y and Z... I don't know if it makes that easier... So you think that replacing the zylonite_keypad_Us.dll or editing it is not he right beginning...?????
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I think you are on the right track, just that you can't rely 100% on that alone. If you are familar with rom cooking, then you can explore with sourcing out for MUI files from other roms (not necessarily i780) and do trial and error in cooking them.

Ok thanks for helping... I will try some MUIs from other ppc. But I think the problem is that the zylonite_Keypad_Us.dll is Samsung made think...

Thx for helping.
Is there a simple way to just fix the connexion issue in an fr rom ?
I have the raw files, the bin file and I just want to make change to this rom.
The connexion issue is : there is no connexion at the first start of windows mobile, IE and WLM don't work...

I only want to correct this bug, can anyone help me ?
Can I fix that by edit reg config ??

German Keyboardmap on english WM6.1?

Hi, i flashed my device with a english wm6.1 and i want my hardware keyboard to work correctly... anybody know how i can do this?
i cant use umlauts like ä ö ü by pressing shift an space after i typed a o u. and the symbols-"box" isn't opening, if i press shift and tab... i already have a german keyboard layout (qwertz) and it works fine but the umlauts and symbols don't work....
anybody can help?

MDMC said:
Hi, i flashed my device with a english wm6.1 and i want my hardware keyboard to work correctly... anybody know how i can do this?
i cant use umlauts like ä ö ü by pressing shift an space after i typed a o u. and the symbols-"box" isn't opening, if i press shift and tab... i already have a german keyboard layout (qwertz) and it works fine but the umlauts and symbols don't work....
anybody can help?
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any custom keyboard installed? like opal keyboard o.a.
had this problem long enough, got it working now with joshs beta #2 rom
if you have a keyboard installed, hardreset and don't install it again ^^
got this problem with every keyboard except resco keyboard pro

J3ssy said:
any custom keyboard installed? like opal keyboard o.a.
had this problem long enough, got it working now with joshs beta #2 rom
if you have a keyboard installed, hardreset and don't install it again ^^
got this problem with every keyboard except resco keyboard pro
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yep next rom from me will have latest opal keyboards that are working.
If you are cooking roms you can get them from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
Also i think starbase had some information in his thread regarding changing language layout. I'm not that familier honestly! PEACe

joshkoss said:
yep next rom from me will have latest opal keyboards that are working.
If you are cooking roms you can get them from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
Also i think starbase had some information in his thread regarding changing language layout. I'm not that familier honestly! PEACe
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changing to german layout with a custom .cab or with advanced config isn't working for this... looks like the software keyboards are modifying a file which is causes that problems

Hope this works for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2572287&postcount=445

hmm nothing works, i think its like j3ssy said. i got the joshkoss's optimized manilla2d rom with the opal(?) softwarekeyboard... any solutions for this problem?

MDMC said:
hmm nothing works, i think its like j3ssy said. i got the joshkoss's optimized manilla2d rom with the opal(?) softwarekeyboard... any solutions for this problem?
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wait until the release from beta 2, there it is fully working with all symbols

MDMC said:
Hi, i flashed my device with a english wm6.1 and i want my hardware keyboard to work correctly... anybody know how i can do this?
i cant use umlauts like ä ö ü by pressing shift an space after i typed a o u. and the symbols-"box" isn't opening, if i press shift and tab... i already have a german keyboard layout (qwertz) and it works fine but the umlauts and symbols don't work....
anybody can help?
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You can install an additional german softkeyboard.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305811
(it's the standard german softkeyboard)
Hint: You have to install SIPchange before installing the softkeyboard!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008

Mapping keyboard keys for Hebrew (or any other language)

I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
P.S. As a few indicated I left a 2 inportent details out
1) The letter "ת" is mapped to the Envelope key on the bottom row.
2) Switching btween English and Hebrew - I have mapped CTRL+"." to do it but you can map you own switching combination with the AEKMapSettings app.

rbroudo said:
I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
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Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also

pitlon said:
Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
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Glad to hear that.
I have PM to all those who created Hebrew for older devices to contact me and help me with creating a Hebrew support for the TP2 but no response so far

I think you have to remove the skin first

need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links

Tourist! said:
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
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I share your pain and hate to disappoint you but there is no free Hebrew that is compatible with TP2.
With that there is no Hebrew for the TF3D that works on TP2.
If only Ben-Yehuda knew what he is getting us into
To date PDAC is the only Hebrew that would run on TP2 but I had such a bad experience with it on my old TyTN that I wouldn't even consider installing it on my new TP2...

Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?

Tourist! said:
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
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Nope. Sorry.
I understood from his posts that Yuvvi is using PDAC you can PM him and see if he has an idea.

TheBundo said:
I think you have to remove the skin first
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I am not sure what skin you refer to but unless its Human (which make sense when it comes to Hebrew support) I am not interested in the skin i.e. TF3D

check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?

Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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We need to get one of the guys who did it before (avimak, nir36, alex2003 or the_dude) to give us directions on how to replicate their work on TP2.

These guys refuse to to help us..
I dont really know what the big deal is..
PDAC Hebrew is really slowing down the device =| It doesnt support the hardware keyboard as it is..
Eyron are supposed to release hebrew for our TP2 devices.. hope they do it soon.. =|

I don't really get what you guys are saying:
first, the link I posted IS for TP2 ! or did I miss something ?
second, I didn't get the part about these guys REFUSING to help.
please explain guys

I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|

Yuuvi said:
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
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you mean you tried the method in the link I posted and that's what happenned ?

naw, the original link rboundo posted =p

Yuuvi said:
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
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so... who's the first to try...? (and than make a CAB file...)

Anyone have a cab for Taiwan Chinese Keyboard?
Looking to switch back to Taiwan Chinese keyboard. Haven't figured out AeKeyMap yet, working on it.

Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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Seeing the problem with the FUN key on the PDAC I tried it on the AEKMap and figured it wasn't working
Quickly enough I also found a solution. AEKMap supports an ALT key which doesn't exist on the TP2 keyboard so I have mapped the ALT to the FUN key code and voila we have a working FUN key in Hebrew which means you can write in Hebrew and still use the FUN key to produce "?", "-", "+" etc.
All you have to do is unzip the attached, place it in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory (overwriting the existing file), Unload and reload the AEKMap using the AEKMap-Settings app and you are good to go.

thanks man~!!
i really needed it! you done a great job!
continue like that
well done!