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Layout Keyboard

Hi Guys, i have a question...
If i flash my WM5 TyTN (Ita) to a WM6 English Version how can i do to have a right KeyBoard layout?
Thx

dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.

well thx for the answer... I search and i found not so much just: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313814&highlight=keyboard+layout+fix
Is it the right way or does exist a .cab file?

Just install Shadowmites HTCustom1.5
It allows you to choose different kb layouts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1271619
It does sound like you need to do some more reading though.

well there is always something to learn
Thx a Lot

Well on this file you told me to download there are a lot of intrestin language but NO ITALIAN

I'm sorry ops
I 'll see if I can find something.

Will this help:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Under the Heading:
"Restore local language support for sliding keyboard after upgrade to a different language ROM"

a program called "HTCustom" would help

takaki said:
a program called "HTCustom" would help
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I guess not.
See the posts above.

mzahiri said:
dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.
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Well at the end i lear to READ and i discover this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297763

Italian layout
Does the Skizzo's cab work for you?
I installed it and now the spellchecker and the dictionary are in italian but the keyboard layout is still without the èòàù etc etc.
Wha cab did you use?
thanks M

yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?

BrigateGB said:
yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?
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No, just the one called : Italian Settings.cab on the first post of Skizzo's thread.

well yesterday and today i try 3 different ROM WWE and in all 3 i use that file for re-map the keyboard layout and all work great...every 3 times...
Bytheway what kind of TyTN are you using? I use a NO Brand Italian one...

Keyboard issue

hi everybody, i've just updated my ROM to WM6 Dopod WWE 3.54.707.3 posed by mrvanx, a big thanks for the sweet release, however im experiencing a kinda unique issue with the keyboard. whenever i press 'y' on the keyboard it types "z" and vice versa. I've already tried to google as well as searched thru the forum but i haven't find anybody with this problem. i was wondering if there is any way to somehow manually fix this issue without installing any cab files because everything else are working fine. i also tried to change regional settings but no luck so far. i appreciate any comments !!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=40234&d=1180417683
download and install that.

Madcap180 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=40234&d=1180417683
download and install that.
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i just did it but it didn't fix the problem !

y z Y Z
works on mine.
wait my _ ? # are all mess up.
What's going on here- (see, that was supposed to be a question mark)

soft reset after install

danik said:
soft reset after install
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i tried that to but the problem is still there

The keyboard fix should have done it... I dont understand why you still have the problem.. What kind of device do you have? 8525?

berdinkerdickle said:
y z Y Z
works on mine.
wait my _ ? # are all mess up.
What's going on here- (see, that was supposed to be a question mark)
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Using X01HT ? I faced the same problem before . It is the keyboard layout problem . Use HTCustom to change the keyboard layout to Japanese will work fine after setup and reset .

ohhh is that what he is using? Well, that explains why the keyboard fix didnt work

Madcap180 said:
The keyboard fix should have done it... I dont understand why you still have the problem.. What kind of device do you have? 8525?
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im using O2 xda trion

Keyboard Layout
If you had google for it you would have found it also, I have an x01ht (softbank) hermes
so I have to do it after every rom update. anyway check to see the the keyboard layout setting is fitting your needles
I use the jpn layout:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hex) (this is for the keyboard itself, try changing this first and soft reset, remember to exist the regedit first)
hope it will work for you
(when jj will realse the fixed satin????? im wating all day for it)

set this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=dword:00040409

Thanks everybody for their inputs. i got it fixed, i used HTCustom to change the keyboard layout to German

luv_my_hermes said:
Thanks everybody for their inputs. i got it fixed, i used HTCustom to change the keyboard layout to German
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German didn't fix it for me. I used HTCustom and changed it to Japanese..
I'm happy now

what a good software!!! I flashed Dopod 838Pro CHT WM6 and do this app to change keyboard to english

I have XDA Trion, I must set up german keyboard layout, but i wan't switch y and z letters. Anybody know how?

tomme45i said:
I have XDA Trion, I must set up german keyboard layout, but i wan't switch y and z letters. Anybody know how?
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I had a similar problem on my Dopod. It has a 'bad' keyboard with the X and the Z keys swithched: XZC instead of ZXC.
I 'fixed' it with an application called AEK mapper, that loads at the start up and bypasses the problem for all the programs.
Michele

carezza said:
I had a similar problem on my Dopod. It has a 'bad' keyboard with the X and the Z keys swithched: XZC instead of ZXC.
I 'fixed' it with an application called AEK mapper, that loads at the start up and bypasses the problem for all the programs.
Michele
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Thank You! It works This is what I made(if someone need this in future):
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Layout German with Y & Z letters switched
Hint Pl
key 005A c0079 ;y
key 015A c0059 ;Y
key 0059 c007A ;z
key 0159 c005A ;Z
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
read carefully, it tellu how to fix the key problem

How to get Samsung i780 Keyboard Qwerty to Azerty driver ?

Hello all,
i have read through a lot in the forum and have alerady flashed and tweaked a lot my i780 with my readings of your Forum. (after doing the same for my TyTNII !))
Bravo to all BTW.
I have a French i780 with an AZERTY keyboard.
I have flashed with the DXHC4 PDA & Phone ROM found here. Since then I have a QWERTY keyboard when the physical keyboard is AZERTY
I have tried the registry edition in order to modify the keyboard mapping to 040C code in the 3 locations described in the different posts without success as it rendres inactive the keyboard.
I tried the different combinations etc...
Here are the exact lines :
in hkey_current_user\keyboard layout\preload string default e0010409 changed to e001040c
\\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active to 0000040c
Is there an issue with a dll or someting in addition ?
Also, I do use RealVGA in 96dpi with an English pack as the french pack is trashing the i780
Any idea is more than welcome !

Hello the i780 specialists ?
Any Idea what registry key to update ? or which driver ?
do you think a cab like the one for the Kayser can be compiled ?
Thanks

While youre on it, please get us the key for Swedish keyb as well
I flashed with the english ROM as well, and....

I am pretty sure there must be a way and it would be great to know the right registry location - would like to change mine over to QUERTZ as I am having an English rom with a German keyboard...
And ideas anyone?
Thanks
Alex

AE Keyboard Mapper
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.

Juggeli said:
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.
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Yes it work but i creates a very irritating keybaord lag when using the keys that is mapped with AE keyboardmapper.

Yep, I have seen this tutorial, but I must admit that I am not at all interested in the software emulation. I 'd rather wait for a proper OS / registry / hw solution

No news guys ???

First of all, I'm no export in this and want to apologize for my english, cause I'm german.
Me too wants to change the keyboard layout as I have an english rom with qwerty and want to get back my german qwertz-layout.
As far as I've found out there is an registry entry under "HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName" which with my device maps to a dll named "zylonite_keypad_us.dll"
This file seems to be located in the ROM. I couldn't copy it for editing. Maybe someone can develop an idea how to deal with this.

solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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Do you have an I780?
If yes, which of these mentioned steps did you do?
This is not yet working for me. At the Moment the hardware keyboard doesn't work at all...
Edit: So, keyboard is working again. But "z" and "y" are still "swapped". So still not the German- QWERTZ

Same here, ive got an azerty i780, but this tip does'nt work for me

It doesn't work at all
The keyboard is rendered NON active by modifiying these reg keys / strings ...

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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When I change the settings like that thread, my keyboard stopped working
I use the code: 041d for Swedish.
Mind helping out what I need to do? I followed the instructions from that page but the keyboard just stopped working, the hardware keyb that is.

In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís

Before flashing my azerty orange fr i780, i saved HKLM sytem tree, and the dll is the same.
The only difference in HKLM tree is :
\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active
040c for azerty french
0409 for US
But doesn't work on my device

lmbranco said:
In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís
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Or a Swedish ROM since there are a few of us that would need the swedish dll then

I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?

dll is : zylonite_keypad_Us.dll
But totalcommander refuses to copy the file

entropy said:
I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?
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Do you have a registry editor on yout I780?
Then look at: HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName
There should be a .dll listed.
I guess thats the one we need. But I fear, as webise said, that you can't copy this file from your windows folder. As far as I've seen this file is in ROM.

Hebrew WM6.1 for Tytn/Jasjam/Hermes(Touch, Trinity, Universal)15/05/09 fix

Hebrew WM6.1/WM6
for Tytn and Jasjam
NEW VERSION!!!!!
SUPPORTS:HTC Trinity P3600, HTC Touch, Universal (Xda Exec aka JasJar)
Includes:
- Superfast and Superlight.
- No backwards hebrew bug reg. problems.
- No Booting issues (No freezes, dead on wake etc.)
- No Longer based on commercial hebrews.
- Works on Tytn and Jasjam or any hermes with FULL hardware
keyboard support.
made from scratch hence no problems
This version has NO menu or interface translation
just full on hebrew support including
hebrew localization in regional setting.
there is no embedded SIP keyboard (YET) thus there's a keyboard cab with hebrew support also attached but this
is only temporary till the next version is out.
IF YOU USE ANY DEVICE OTHER THAN HERMES:
this version will (probably) work but it will install
a not needed hardware keyboard support
a version without hardware is here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/93234549/e12c7004/Badnimits_Hebrew_nohardkeybrd.html
please test this versions and let me know if theres any unknown issues
this was made after many requests and most of them were taken into consideration
the main plus is that its not pdac eyron or paragon related.
**COMING SOON:**
*Hebrew SIP Keyboard Embedded
*Optional interface translation
*Hebrew Smartdialing
DOWNLOAD HERE (Fixed keyboard symbol bug) :
http://www.4shared.com/file/105397815/e09727e4/Hebrew.html
Soft Keyboard:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173473&d=1239047052
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3575714
Thanks to pickiki
****** FIX ***********
Theres is a problem with some symbols in the hardware keyboard layout
if u want to repair this without uninstalling
download this file:
http://www.4shared.com/file/105397086/a64f9caf/Hebrew.html
and overwrite the one in \Program files\AEKMap\
or just reinstall with the fixed version posted above .
if you like my work:

thanks
thanks! sounds great! will try when i get back from the gym...

Working awesome!! on wM6.1!!
WM6.5 is on the way...
do we need serial for hikeyboard ??
please also notice that it is not Hardware keyboard (for that you will need AEKEYMAP)
Master nimits -you are the ONE!

pickiki said:
Working awesome!! on wM6.1!!
WM6.5 is on the way...
do we need serial for hikeyboard ??
please also notice that it is not Hardware keyboard (for that you will need AEKEYMAP)
Master nimits -you are the ONE!
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hey man, what do you mean? aek is embedded with hebrew layout so you dont need to set it up or install it yourself..maybe you downloaded the wrong version? there are two, the bottom one with hardware and the upper one without..
and as for hikeyboard, i didnt wanna post with no SIP so its just temporary untill my next version, but i think the trial is unlimited, if not let me know

i meant that i used your:
1) Hebrew cab for Hebrew fonts and regional settings
2) hikeyboard for the hebrew letters keyboard
3) AEKeymap for the hardware keyboard
when i installed the hikeyboard he asked me if i want to use it as the hardware keyboard but it didn't worked so i reinstalled the AEKeymap again.

pickiki said:
i meant that i used your:
1) Hebrew cab for Hebrew fonts and regional settings
2) hikeyboard for the hebrew letters keyboard
3) AEKeymap for the hardware keyboard
when i installed the hikeyboard he asked me if i want to use it as the hardware keyboard but it didn't worked so i reinstalled the AEKeymap again.
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ok now i understand, thanks man
but as i mentioned next version will have sip embedded so
until then let me know if theres anything else you need me to change or add

corection!!
the badnimits_hebrew.cab does includes AEKmap!!
my bad!
this works great!
thanks a lot man!

What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?

works great

rbroudo said:
What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?
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yes and pretty much every new rom thats circulating in this forum.
its a very simple support(unlike eyron or pdac) so i guess unless someone finds out a rom in which it doesnt work will go with any.

rbroudo said:
What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?
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yes and pretty much every new rom thats circulating in this forum.
its a very simple support(unlike eyron or pdac) so i guess unless someone finds out a rom in which it doesnt work in we'll go with any.

I am sooo glad to post this!
Your hebrew works great on the WWE3 for the Magician-still didn't realize if it is a 2003SE with wm6.1 theme or a completely new cooked ROM.
the ROM was taken from :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490948
Haleluya

sounds great, I am on a vogue though (no keyboard) so I will be waiting for the next release,
Just a thought, if it works on several models, you should probably consider posting it in the general hacking and development forum section, it will get much more exposure.
Thanks for your great work.

motorola q9c
I tried installing it on Motorola q9c smartphone but shows hebrew in wrong direction. Also how do i switch keyboard layout from english to hebrew

moshe5738 said:
I tried installing it on Motorola q9c smartphone but shows hebrew in wrong direction. Also how do i switch keyboard layout from english to hebrew
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i dont really know that phone but this is pda based so dll wise
smart phones are not fully compatible to anything in this forums.
to change the key setting u can use AEKMapScan in \program files\aekmap\ press the key/s that u want to use to switch layouts find out the "key code" then edit AEKMap.cfg and change the line
SwitchKey 007A to
SwitchKey ****=your code
goodluck

Motorola Q9c
Are there any settings to play with that may get it to work.
Thanks alot

Happy to inform that the recent version works great on all Hermes ROMs I tried so far!
Is this an indication that the keyboard is the main cause of previous failures? (that's the only visible difference I could see).
Anyway - great work!
Obviously a soft keyboad would be nice, but this is already very nice!

SURE!
every ROM i have tested till mr. nimits showed up was dramatically decreased on performance after ANY Hebrew installation i tried.

moshe5738 said:
Are there any settings to play with that may get it to work.
Thanks alot
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my guess is that INBiDi20.dll doesnt self register properly, if u got any version of hebrew that did work maybe u can try replacing it with any dll that has bidi in its name from the working version
otherwise i cant really help cause i dont have that phone to test on so it will be a waste of time.. GL

ygeller said:
Happy to inform that the recent version works great on all Hermes ROMs I tried so far!
Is this an indication that the keyboard is the main cause of previous failures? (that's the only visible difference I could see).
Anyway - great work!
Obviously a soft keyboad would be nice, but this is already very nice!
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Glad to hear and to add that it also works on the new wm6.5 21189 builds flawlessly..
the previous failures are cause eyron pdac and paragon are a bunch of greedy
bastards that dont like to work but like to take our money so they did as less as possible whilst developing their hebrews

Mapping keyboard keys for Hebrew (or any other language)

I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
P.S. As a few indicated I left a 2 inportent details out
1) The letter "ת" is mapped to the Envelope key on the bottom row.
2) Switching btween English and Hebrew - I have mapped CTRL+"." to do it but you can map you own switching combination with the AEKMapSettings app.

rbroudo said:
I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
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Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also

pitlon said:
Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
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Glad to hear that.
I have PM to all those who created Hebrew for older devices to contact me and help me with creating a Hebrew support for the TP2 but no response so far

I think you have to remove the skin first

need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links

Tourist! said:
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
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I share your pain and hate to disappoint you but there is no free Hebrew that is compatible with TP2.
With that there is no Hebrew for the TF3D that works on TP2.
If only Ben-Yehuda knew what he is getting us into
To date PDAC is the only Hebrew that would run on TP2 but I had such a bad experience with it on my old TyTN that I wouldn't even consider installing it on my new TP2...

Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?

Tourist! said:
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
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Nope. Sorry.
I understood from his posts that Yuvvi is using PDAC you can PM him and see if he has an idea.

TheBundo said:
I think you have to remove the skin first
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I am not sure what skin you refer to but unless its Human (which make sense when it comes to Hebrew support) I am not interested in the skin i.e. TF3D

check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?

Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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We need to get one of the guys who did it before (avimak, nir36, alex2003 or the_dude) to give us directions on how to replicate their work on TP2.

These guys refuse to to help us..
I dont really know what the big deal is..
PDAC Hebrew is really slowing down the device =| It doesnt support the hardware keyboard as it is..
Eyron are supposed to release hebrew for our TP2 devices.. hope they do it soon.. =|

I don't really get what you guys are saying:
first, the link I posted IS for TP2 ! or did I miss something ?
second, I didn't get the part about these guys REFUSING to help.
please explain guys

I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|

Yuuvi said:
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
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you mean you tried the method in the link I posted and that's what happenned ?

naw, the original link rboundo posted =p

Yuuvi said:
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
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so... who's the first to try...? (and than make a CAB file...)

Anyone have a cab for Taiwan Chinese Keyboard?
Looking to switch back to Taiwan Chinese keyboard. Haven't figured out AeKeyMap yet, working on it.

Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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Seeing the problem with the FUN key on the PDAC I tried it on the AEKMap and figured it wasn't working
Quickly enough I also found a solution. AEKMap supports an ALT key which doesn't exist on the TP2 keyboard so I have mapped the ALT to the FUN key code and voila we have a working FUN key in Hebrew which means you can write in Hebrew and still use the FUN key to produce "?", "-", "+" etc.
All you have to do is unzip the attached, place it in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory (overwriting the existing file), Unload and reload the AEKMap using the AEKMap-Settings app and you are good to go.

thanks man~!!
i really needed it! you done a great job!
continue like that
well done!