I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
P.S. As a few indicated I left a 2 inportent details out
1) The letter "ת" is mapped to the Envelope key on the bottom row.
2) Switching btween English and Hebrew - I have mapped CTRL+"." to do it but you can map you own switching combination with the AEKMapSettings app.
rbroudo said:
I found "AE Keyboard Mapper" extremely useful to make my TP2 keyboard produce Hebrew characters.
It first provides you with a simple utility to scan the keyboard for the code produced by a key (or key combination) press.
It then lets you update a config file to make each key code to a corresponding Unicode character code.
and thats about it.
I've used it to create a mapping of the keys to Hebrew but you can do it to any other language.
The attached contain two files:
1) "EA Keyboard Mapper" installation cab
2) Hebrew config file for TP2
First install "AE Keyboard Mapper"
Once the "AE Keyboard Mapper" is installed/
Place the Hebrew config file in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory
Run "AEKMap Settings" utility and select the new layout from the list
Reload AEKMap
Enjoy
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Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
pitlon said:
Hi thanks, it works great on my TP2 also
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Glad to hear that.
I have PM to all those who created Hebrew for older devices to contact me and help me with creating a Hebrew support for the TP2 but no response so far
I think you have to remove the skin first
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
Tourist! said:
need some help, PDAC hebrew is driving me nuts !!!
need latest & most compatible free hebrew for TP2.
also latest heb for TF3D
please give me some links
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I share your pain and hate to disappoint you but there is no free Hebrew that is compatible with TP2.
With that there is no Hebrew for the TF3D that works on TP2.
If only Ben-Yehuda knew what he is getting us into
To date PDAC is the only Hebrew that would run on TP2 but I had such a bad experience with it on my old TyTN that I wouldn't even consider installing it on my new TP2...
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
Tourist! said:
Eliezer would do it better...
anyway - Since I installed PDAC the "fun" key stopped FUNctioning.
do you know this problem ?
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Nope. Sorry.
I understood from his posts that Yuvvi is using PDAC you can PM him and see if he has an idea.
TheBundo said:
I think you have to remove the skin first
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I am not sure what skin you refer to but unless its Human (which make sense when it comes to Hebrew support) I am not interested in the skin i.e. TF3D
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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We need to get one of the guys who did it before (avimak, nir36, alex2003 or the_dude) to give us directions on how to replicate their work on TP2.
These guys refuse to to help us..
I dont really know what the big deal is..
PDAC Hebrew is really slowing down the device =| It doesnt support the hardware keyboard as it is..
Eyron are supposed to release hebrew for our TP2 devices.. hope they do it soon.. =|
I don't really get what you guys are saying:
first, the link I posted IS for TP2 ! or did I miss something ?
second, I didn't get the part about these guys REFUSING to help.
please explain guys
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
Yuuvi said:
I installed this method together with PDAC, It works great as I type the first 4 letters.. then it just doesnt work anymore =|
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you mean you tried the method in the link I posted and that's what happenned ?
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
Yuuvi said:
naw, the original link rboundo posted =p
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so... who's the first to try...? (and than make a CAB file...)
Anyone have a cab for Taiwan Chinese Keyboard?
Looking to switch back to Taiwan Chinese keyboard. Haven't figured out AeKeyMap yet, working on it.
Tourist! said:
check this out:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/cgi-bi...malaya;action=display;num=1248001803;start=15
what do you think ?
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Seeing the problem with the FUN key on the PDAC I tried it on the AEKMap and figured it wasn't working
Quickly enough I also found a solution. AEKMap supports an ALT key which doesn't exist on the TP2 keyboard so I have mapped the ALT to the FUN key code and voila we have a working FUN key in Hebrew which means you can write in Hebrew and still use the FUN key to produce "?", "-", "+" etc.
All you have to do is unzip the attached, place it in the \Program Files\AEKMap directory (overwriting the existing file), Unload and reload the AEKMap using the AEKMap-Settings app and you are good to go.
thanks man~!!
i really needed it! you done a great job!
continue like that
well done!
Related
Hi Guys, i have a question...
If i flash my WM5 TyTN (Ita) to a WM6 English Version how can i do to have a right KeyBoard layout?
Thx
dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.
well thx for the answer... I search and i found not so much just: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313814&highlight=keyboard+layout+fix
Is it the right way or does exist a .cab file?
Just install Shadowmites HTCustom1.5
It allows you to choose different kb layouts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1271619
It does sound like you need to do some more reading though.
well there is always something to learn
Thx a Lot
Well on this file you told me to download there are a lot of intrestin language but NO ITALIAN
I'm sorry ops
I 'll see if I can find something.
Will this help:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Under the Heading:
"Restore local language support for sliding keyboard after upgrade to a different language ROM"
a program called "HTCustom" would help
takaki said:
a program called "HTCustom" would help
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I guess not.
See the posts above.
mzahiri said:
dont worry about the keyboard layout too much. just READ the forums and you will see that there are keyboard fixes for all of the known layout issues. some like the ROMs from Custel even allow you to change the layout through a built in application in the setting.
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Well at the end i lear to READ and i discover this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297763
Italian layout
Does the Skizzo's cab work for you?
I installed it and now the spellchecker and the dictionary are in italian but the keyboard layout is still without the èòàù etc etc.
Wha cab did you use?
thanks M
yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?
BrigateGB said:
yes for it was working great....
have you try to install other italian input .cab files?
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No, just the one called : Italian Settings.cab on the first post of Skizzo's thread.
well yesterday and today i try 3 different ROM WWE and in all 3 i use that file for re-map the keyboard layout and all work great...every 3 times...
Bytheway what kind of TyTN are you using? I use a NO Brand Italian one...
Hi,
Is there a version of Dictionary Editor that works with WM6? And... how I can change the Dictionary language, I need to change only the dictionary, not any other thing, I mean, keyboard layout, etc. Is there a .ca for that?.
Regards,
Taguapire.
I am using the program/cab file I obtained from this site and it seems to be working well on vp3G's 3.0.
http://mobile-sg.com/ppc/apps/
Gator5000e said:
I am using the program/cab file I obtained from this site and it seems to be working well on vp3G's 3.0.
http://mobile-sg.com/ppc/apps/
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Thanks for the app, but it didn´t show any dictionary, Like the other soft I don´t know if WM6 have other kind of file for Dictionaries...
Is there a well known app for edit Dicts on WM6?
May be I miss using this app, but it didn´t work.
Regards,
Taguapire.
taguapire said:
Hi,
Is there a version of Dictionary Editor that works with WM6? And... how I can change the Dictionary language, I need to change only the dictionary, not any other thing, I mean, keyboard layout, etc. Is there a .ca for that?.
Regards,
Taguapire.
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Hi!
What dictionary u mean? WM6 has build in Eng. Dictionary “Input”. If u looking after x language I thing its best to search in this forum u can find it. Search X input X= your lang. I searched after Scandinavian input I got it
I hope u find it
I´m talking about new words added to dictionary throught the keyboard.
Regards,
Taguapire.
taguapire said:
I´m talking about new words added to dictionary throught the keyboard.
Regards,
Taguapire.
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shoot
http://pdassi.de/util/getdownload.php/TextPlusPPC12.zip?id=59861
SORRRY taguapire the link is down. try this
http://www.smartcell.com/Web/pc-17-4-textplus-for-pocket-pc.aspx
Isn't this custom behavior? All words I write in Norwegian seems to get added to the dictionary, even phrases. This has been the same for all WM6 roms I've tried (Black Satin isn't one of them though).
laaban said:
Isn't this custom behavior? All words I write in Norwegian seems to get added to the dictionary, even phrases. This has been the same for all WM6 roms I've tried (Black Satin isn't one of them though).
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I know it save and add all u typing. The issue is that the prgm ask u if u wona save the word or not u can always ignore that. “Det gäller skriva rätt ord”
Abo Forat said:
SORRRY taguapire the link is down. try this
http://www.smartcell.com/Web/pc-17-4-textplus-for-pocket-pc.aspx
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I´ll try it, thank you very much!!!
Taguapire.
Great free program
Dictmgr, lets you edit and add to a number of ppc dictionaries
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/dictmgr.shtml
MHC48 said:
Dictmgr, lets you edit and add to a number of ppc dictionaries
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/dictmgr.shtml
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Unfortunately DictEditor does not support WM6 yet. And WordCorrector will support WM6 only in the next version (which I hope to release soon). SpellChecker works with WM6 without changing anything.
Currently, one WM6 user is helping me to do some "detective" work and hopefully find out what file/database actually contains the word completion dictionary in WM6. Too bad I don't own a WM6 device yet, else the hunting/development process should be able to speed up.
i forget the name of the file in the rom but its a .txt file and its located near the preconfig.txt if you search a rom dump sorted by type. i have edited the text and it worked its pretty easy just need to dump the rom thats all.
austinsnyc said:
i forget the name of the file in the rom but its a .txt file and its located near the preconfig.txt if you search a rom dump sorted by type. i have edited the text and it worked its pretty easy just need to dump the rom thats all.
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I hope you are referring to the word completion dictionary rather than the auto correct dictionary.
Dictionaries in WM5 and earlier:
1) Word Completion: dyncompdict.dat
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.txt
Dictionaries in WM6:
1) Word Completion: ???
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.0409.txt (for English ROM)
I hope someone figures out the "missing link" so that I can work on an update for DictEditor soon.
vicott said:
I hope you are referring to the word completion dictionary rather than the auto correct dictionary.
Dictionaries in WM5 and earlier:
1) Word Completion: dyncompdict.dat
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.txt
Dictionaries in WM6:
1) Word Completion: ???
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.0409.txt (for English ROM)
I hope someone figures out the "missing link" so that I can work on an update for DictEditor soon.
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It would be really handy to find out which file holds the Word Completion dictionary - I've got a few duff entries in mine (on my Universal), so I'd like to delete the whole lot.
Cheers,
Steve.
vicott said:
Unfortunately DictEditor does not support WM6 yet.
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I hadn't gotten a chance to work with your program since I recently flashed. I just automatically installed it since it was always so helpful in the past. I hope you will keep us up to date when you get it working for WM6
vicott, I'm using HTC Touch and I installed HTC PhonePad. I also installed your T9Editor, but when I run it, it always says "HTC Phone Pad is not installed in your device." I have already did a soft reset, chose PhonePad as SIP and the error message still pops up.
boybi said:
vicott, I'm using HTC Touch and I installed HTC PhonePad. I also installed your T9Editor, but when I run it, it always says "HTC Phone Pad is not installed in your device." I have already did a soft reset, chose PhonePad as SIP and the error message still pops up.
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It will be fixed in the next version. It's already completed actually, but I'm not releasing it yet due to other reasons. If you wish to have the file now, you can e-mail me here.
vicott said:
It will be fixed in the next version. It's already completed actually, but I'm not releasing it yet due to other reasons. If you wish to have the file now, you can e-mail me here.
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I received quite a couple of irrelevent e-mails regarding this post lately, so I have to clarify here once & for all.
Firstly, I was only referring to an update for T9Editor (I was only responmding to a query if you guys have read the earlier posts), which is one of the 6 "sub-programs" in the DictMgr suite.
Secondly, T9Editor is only used for modifying the dictionary used by HTC Phone Pad.
Thirdly, 5 of the 6 "sub-programs" in DictMgr suite are already compatible with WM6 all the while. The only one that is not compatible is DictEditor.
Next, the update for T9Editor (which is also included in the latest version of DictMgr) has already been released. Please go to my website to download it.
Lastly, DictEditor (used to modify the word completion dictionary in WM5 and below) is not compatible with WM6 because the word completion dictionary file is a different file (different filename and location) in WM6. To add on to the misery, the file structure is totally different. That makes it highly challenging to develop a dictionary editor for it since I haven't read about anybody "deciphering" how the file works YET.
vicott said:
I hope you are referring to the word completion dictionary rather than the auto correct dictionary.
Dictionaries in WM5 and earlier:
1) Word Completion: dyncompdict.dat
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.txt
Dictionaries in WM6:
1) Word Completion: ???
2) Spell Checking: custom.dic
3) Auto correct: autocorrect.0409.txt (for English ROM)
I hope someone figures out the "missing link" so that I can work on an update for DictEditor soon.
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Update:
Word Completion Dictionary for WM6: compimeh.0409.dat
Does any one know how to get japanese input and output on the ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 (8925 running WM6, 8525 will be running WM6)? I currently have a free program that does this on WM5 but it doesn't want to work on WM6 (See Link). When I install it on WM6 it makes the keyboard not work.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
I tried this however it only has support for input, not output, which I need.
Any recommendations. Keep in mind I would like to stay on the free side of things. I'm cheep
For the Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333507
For the Hermes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298919
It is possible and free. Read read read!
Edit: Just read your thread. Looks like you are having trouble because it is a Kaiser, right? Check that Kaiser thread. One reg edit is all you need. Also, don't install that Bagoj stuff. Stick to the original WM5 input. It is running smooth on my WM6 Hermes.
i have the hermes. Thanks ill take a look.
Wow, you've got a Hermes and it is still messing up the keyboard!? Well, when and if you have trouble, I will be watching this thread.
yea the hermes doesn't have WM6 on it yet cause ATT hasn't released it. I have it working on it now but my testing with the TYTN 2 tells me that im going to run into this problem when i upgrade the phone.
pwnage said:
Does any one know how to get japanese input and output on the ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 (8925 running WM6, 8525 will be running WM6)? I currently have a free program that does this on WM5 but it doesn't want to work on WM6 (See Link). When I install it on WM6 it makes the keyboard not work.
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
I tried this however it only has support for input, not output, which I need.
Any recommendations. Keep in mind I would like to stay on the free side of things. I'm cheep
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I build my own ROM with Japanese input/output using Pandora Kitchens with 3.62 ROM. I have made some packages for this with all files from Japanese WM5, not from any commercial third parties. If you are interested in it, I can send you a private message with the packages. Let me know.
thank you for the offer, however voiding the phones warranty of the phone is out of the question. The warranty is very important to the company that I work for.
If you can separate the Japanese input/output from the ROM that would be ok by me. One more thing the Japanese input/output needs to work on Windows Mobile 6, as i already have a program that dose this on WM5.
I have yet to try the previous suggestions. I will be trying these most likely tomorrow.
pwnage said:
thank you for the offer, however voiding the phones warranty of the phone is out of the question. The warranty is very important to the company that I work for.
If you can separate the Japanese input/output from the ROM that would be ok by me. One more thing the Japanese input/output needs to work on Windows Mobile 6, as i already have a program that dose this on WM5.
I have yet to try the previous suggestions. I will be trying these most likely tomorrow.
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there are a few things you have to do to implement east asian language functions on windows mobile. actually, you can do this without rom cooking.
1) you need to replace wince.nls in windows folder because it is only for western languages. however, it is a rom system file, and simple copy&paste does not make it work.
2) download reloadnls.exe and put it in \Windows\Startup. This makes the new wince.nls work properly. you can download reloadnls.exe from this link:http://www.geocities.jp/hou_ming_2/reloadnls.zip
3) you also need a Japanese font. (for example, msgothic.ac3 from japanese wm6 or windows xp) You can retrieve a font and wince.nls from this zip. http://x01ht.ratn-leaf.com/files/customizer/packages/Japanize_Tiny.zip
4) You also have to change the registry for viewing Japanese texts.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls]
"LegacyLocaleMode"=dword:00000001
"DefaultLCID"=dword:00000411
"DefaultACP"=dword:000003a4
"DefaultOCP"=dword:000003a4
"SystemLCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"MS PGothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"MS Gothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"MS UI Gothic"="\\windows\\tahoma.ttf,Tahoma"
"Courier New"="\\windows\\msgothic.ac3,MS UI Gothic"
"Tahoma"="\\windows\\msgothic.ac3,MS UI Gothic"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SkipTable]
"Tahoma"="005c,00a5,007e,0391-03c9,2026,2116,221a,25a0-25ff"
"Courier New"="005c"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\International]
"ACP"=dword:000003a4
"LCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI]
"DisableFarEastWordBreak"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\International]
"Default_CodePage"=dword:c6f4
5) After soft rest, you can view Japanese text now.
6) To use MS Japanese IME, you need to copy following files into \Windows. You can find them in Japanese WM5 or you can download from here. http://x01ht.ratn-leaf.com/files/customizer/packages/MSIME.zip
hwxjpn.dll
imjp31.dll
imjp31dx.exe
imjp31k.dll
imjp31s.dic
imjp31s.grm
mboxjpn.96.dll
mboxjpn.dll
msimj.96.dll
msimj.dll
mskana.96.dll
mskana.dll
(You don't need to copy any files in the zip other than files listed above.
7) In the zip above, there are two registry files, defaul.txt and user.txt. Just import them using your favorite registry editor.
8) Soft reset, and you now have a Japanese input function (MS IME) installed in your hermes. However, there is no way to call this function from your keyboard since it is not a japanese keylayout.
9) To call MS IME, you need to assign this function to a key by freeware called PQz. http://1942.rocketspace.net/PQzII/PQzII_20070725_HTC_Hermes.cab
English manual: http://www.nicque.com/PQz/DOC/index_e.htm
Hope you will figure out the way!
Your post is helpful however I am unable to read Japanese. (wish I could) The geocities site you referred me to appears to throw an error but, again, since I cant read Japanese I cant be sure.
I'll give this a shot though
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
larsuck said:
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
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i know about LetsJapanNo5.zip, but did not introduce it since i am not sure if usemynls.exe included in the cab is freeware.
as for the ime part, i suppose IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip does exactly what i explained above automatically, and i recommend this way.
as for the keyboard part, if your device has a keyboard with non-japanese layout, you cannot call ime as i explained above since there is no key assign for this function by default. you still need PQzII to map ime function to a key on your keyboard.
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i know about LetsJapanNo5.zip, but did not introduce it since i am not sure if usemynls.exe included in the cab is freeware.
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Heh, heh. I'm not real sure about that myself, but I don't think Asukal would pull anything funny. AFAIK, he is on the level.
What exactly does usemynls.exe do? Does it redirect use of the wince file in Windows to another one? Cause you can just use TotalCommander (or whatever file explorer) to copy over the one in Windows and then do away with usemynls, no?
qtotter said:
as for the keyboard part, if your device has a keyboard with non-japanese layout, you cannot call ime as i explained above since there is no key assign for this function by default. you still need PQzII to map ime function to a key on your keyboard.
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You sure the tab key (or whatever is just left of the space bar) doesn't function this way if you let the ime cab do its work? What if you edit the registry thusly: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hexadecimal base)
Looking at the X01HT and the 8525, the hardware looks exactly the same to me - same number of keys with the same placement.
qtotter, I have a X01HT, so I'll believe you if you say its so, but it just seems weird to me that HTC would make different hardware which looks the same. If you've never tried it yourself, then perhaps pwnage can be our guinea pig.
BTW, which Hermes rendition are you using, pwnage?
larsuck
Im a R-tard. I have a TYTN and a TYTN II.
Sorry about that.
larsuck said:
While I am sure qtotter's method works fine, there are easier ways. I myself have a WM6 tytn and get Japanese output/input simply by installing the following two .cabs.
Fonts and wince
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
Install and soft reset.
Input, fully accessable from the keyboard
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
Install and soft reset.
You may run into troubles depending on which physical keyboard your tytn has, but these can be solved by a simple registry edit to the keyboard layout key.
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I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
larsuck said:
Heh, heh. I'm not real sure about that myself, but I don't think Asukal would pull anything funny. AFAIK, he is on the level.
What exactly does usemynls.exe do? Does it redirect use of the wince file in Windows to another one? Cause you can just use TotalCommander (or whatever file explorer) to copy over the one in Windows and then do away with usemynls, no?
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i don't remember well, but i think usemynls.exe comes with ce star...
it ignores the original wince.nls and make the system refer to your own wince.nls stored somewhere else than /window. as i explain before, simple overwrite does not work with rom system files.
larsuck said:
You sure the tab key (or whatever is just left of the space bar) doesn't function this way if you let the ime cab do its work? What if you edit the registry thusly: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty] "Layout"= 30411 (Hexadecimal base)
Looking at the X01HT and the 8525, the hardware looks exactly the same to me - same number of keys with the same placement.
qtotter, I have a X01HT, so I'll believe you if you say its so, but it just seems weird to me that HTC would make different hardware which looks the same. If you've never tried it yourself, then perhaps pwnage can be our guinea pig.
BTW, which Hermes rendition are you using, pwnage?
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there are many keyboard layouts. check blue silk-printed characters on the keys.
pwnage said:
I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
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no, you are not doing anything wrong. LetsJapanNo5 forces keyboard layout change.
this is what i explained above. 10409 is for the english keyboard layout, and 10411 is for the japanese keyboard layout. since you are using an english keyboard, you need to keep the value 10409. however, it does not have a key assigned to ime call. you simply need to use PQzII to map this function to any key you want.
pwnage said:
I tried this and the input seems to be fine however the keyboard refuses to work. I did try a few reg settings in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]
Under the preload key I changed "(Default)" from e0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Under the preload\1 key I changed "(Default)" from ee0010411 to e0010409 (the original reg value).
Now when I switched the values from ee0010411 to e0010409 in both the Japanese input stopped working. When I changed them back they started working (no keyboard).
Am I inputing the wrong reg keys or what?
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When you say the keyboard stopped working, do you mean that it just doesn't respond at all, no matter what buttons you press?
Is this on the Tytn or the TytnII?
If this is the TytnII, check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333507&page=2
That guy had problems with his keyboard AND buttons responding, but got everything working with the two .cab files I posted above with one regedit.
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there are many keyboard layouts. check blue silk-printed characters on the keys.
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Yeah, but isn't that just paint? I don't want to sound pendantic, but if the hardware below the paint is the same, then I don't see what the problem would be.
qtotter said:
it ignores the original wince.nls and make the system refer to your own wince.nls stored somewhere else than /window. as i explain before, simple overwrite does not work with rom system files.
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You can't use the File Explorer built into WM to overwrite system files, so I use GSFinder. Others use Total Commander. These can copy, delete, whatever to system files.
Anyway, now thanks to your info about usemynsl.exe, I have another 350kb or so free as I was able to overwrite my wince file in Windows (which allows .NET programs to function! YEAH!) and delete the usemynsl and the redundant wince in my Temp folder.
larsuck said:
Anyway, now thanks to your info about usemynsl.exe, I have another 350kb or so free as I was able to overwrite my wince file in Windows (which allows .NET programs to function! YEAH!) and delete the usemynsl and the redundant wince in my Temp folder.
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i am not saying you cannot copy and paste different rom system files to your device. even if you copy and paste another wince.nls, the system does not refer to the new wince.nls.
this is the reason why people use usemynsl.exe to force the system to refer to another wince.nls in a different location or reloadnls.exe to force the system to refer to the overwrote wince.nls in /windows.
if you wanna save disk space, i recommend you build your own rom burned with east asian wince.nls like i do.
qtotter said:
i am not saying you cannot copy and paste different rom system files to your device. even if you copy and paste another wince.nls, the system does not refer to the new wince.nls.
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Uh oh. So what did I do to my tytn?
I copied over the original wince in Windows with the one from LetsJapan in Temp.
I deleted the wince in Temp and moved usemynls so that it wouldn't run on startup.
Everything seems to be running smoothly, and I have soft reset (for other reasons) a few times between now and then...
No problems so far (its been a couple of days), but can I expect them?
Hello all,
i have read through a lot in the forum and have alerady flashed and tweaked a lot my i780 with my readings of your Forum. (after doing the same for my TyTNII !))
Bravo to all BTW.
I have a French i780 with an AZERTY keyboard.
I have flashed with the DXHC4 PDA & Phone ROM found here. Since then I have a QWERTY keyboard when the physical keyboard is AZERTY
I have tried the registry edition in order to modify the keyboard mapping to 040C code in the 3 locations described in the different posts without success as it rendres inactive the keyboard.
I tried the different combinations etc...
Here are the exact lines :
in hkey_current_user\keyboard layout\preload string default e0010409 changed to e001040c
\\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active to 0000040c
Is there an issue with a dll or someting in addition ?
Also, I do use RealVGA in 96dpi with an English pack as the french pack is trashing the i780
Any idea is more than welcome !
Hello the i780 specialists ?
Any Idea what registry key to update ? or which driver ?
do you think a cab like the one for the Kayser can be compiled ?
Thanks
While youre on it, please get us the key for Swedish keyb as well
I flashed with the english ROM as well, and....
I am pretty sure there must be a way and it would be great to know the right registry location - would like to change mine over to QUERTZ as I am having an English rom with a German keyboard...
And ideas anyone?
Thanks
Alex
AE Keyboard Mapper
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.
Juggeli said:
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.
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Yes it work but i creates a very irritating keybaord lag when using the keys that is mapped with AE keyboardmapper.
Yep, I have seen this tutorial, but I must admit that I am not at all interested in the software emulation. I 'd rather wait for a proper OS / registry / hw solution
No news guys ???
First of all, I'm no export in this and want to apologize for my english, cause I'm german.
Me too wants to change the keyboard layout as I have an english rom with qwerty and want to get back my german qwertz-layout.
As far as I've found out there is an registry entry under "HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName" which with my device maps to a dll named "zylonite_keypad_us.dll"
This file seems to be located in the ROM. I couldn't copy it for editing. Maybe someone can develop an idea how to deal with this.
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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Do you have an I780?
If yes, which of these mentioned steps did you do?
This is not yet working for me. At the Moment the hardware keyboard doesn't work at all...
Edit: So, keyboard is working again. But "z" and "y" are still "swapped". So still not the German- QWERTZ
Same here, ive got an azerty i780, but this tip does'nt work for me
It doesn't work at all
The keyboard is rendered NON active by modifiying these reg keys / strings ...
webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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When I change the settings like that thread, my keyboard stopped working
I use the code: 041d for Swedish.
Mind helping out what I need to do? I followed the instructions from that page but the keyboard just stopped working, the hardware keyb that is.
In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís
Before flashing my azerty orange fr i780, i saved HKLM sytem tree, and the dll is the same.
The only difference in HKLM tree is :
\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active
040c for azerty french
0409 for US
But doesn't work on my device
lmbranco said:
In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís
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Or a Swedish ROM since there are a few of us that would need the swedish dll then
I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?
dll is : zylonite_keypad_Us.dll
But totalcommander refuses to copy the file
entropy said:
I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?
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Do you have a registry editor on yout I780?
Then look at: HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName
There should be a .dll listed.
I guess thats the one we need. But I fear, as webise said, that you can't copy this file from your windows folder. As far as I've seen this file is in ROM.
Hebrew WM6.1/WM6
for Tytn and Jasjam
NEW VERSION!!!!!
SUPPORTS:HTC Trinity P3600, HTC Touch, Universal (Xda Exec aka JasJar)
Includes:
- Superfast and Superlight.
- No backwards hebrew bug reg. problems.
- No Booting issues (No freezes, dead on wake etc.)
- No Longer based on commercial hebrews.
- Works on Tytn and Jasjam or any hermes with FULL hardware
keyboard support.
made from scratch hence no problems
This version has NO menu or interface translation
just full on hebrew support including
hebrew localization in regional setting.
there is no embedded SIP keyboard (YET) thus there's a keyboard cab with hebrew support also attached but this
is only temporary till the next version is out.
IF YOU USE ANY DEVICE OTHER THAN HERMES:
this version will (probably) work but it will install
a not needed hardware keyboard support
a version without hardware is here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/93234549/e12c7004/Badnimits_Hebrew_nohardkeybrd.html
please test this versions and let me know if theres any unknown issues
this was made after many requests and most of them were taken into consideration
the main plus is that its not pdac eyron or paragon related.
**COMING SOON:**
*Hebrew SIP Keyboard Embedded
*Optional interface translation
*Hebrew Smartdialing
DOWNLOAD HERE (Fixed keyboard symbol bug) :
http://www.4shared.com/file/105397815/e09727e4/Hebrew.html
Soft Keyboard:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=173473&d=1239047052
Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3575714
Thanks to pickiki
****** FIX ***********
Theres is a problem with some symbols in the hardware keyboard layout
if u want to repair this without uninstalling
download this file:
http://www.4shared.com/file/105397086/a64f9caf/Hebrew.html
and overwrite the one in \Program files\AEKMap\
or just reinstall with the fixed version posted above .
if you like my work:
thanks
thanks! sounds great! will try when i get back from the gym...
Working awesome!! on wM6.1!!
WM6.5 is on the way...
do we need serial for hikeyboard ??
please also notice that it is not Hardware keyboard (for that you will need AEKEYMAP)
Master nimits -you are the ONE!
pickiki said:
Working awesome!! on wM6.1!!
WM6.5 is on the way...
do we need serial for hikeyboard ??
please also notice that it is not Hardware keyboard (for that you will need AEKEYMAP)
Master nimits -you are the ONE!
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hey man, what do you mean? aek is embedded with hebrew layout so you dont need to set it up or install it yourself..maybe you downloaded the wrong version? there are two, the bottom one with hardware and the upper one without..
and as for hikeyboard, i didnt wanna post with no SIP so its just temporary untill my next version, but i think the trial is unlimited, if not let me know
i meant that i used your:
1) Hebrew cab for Hebrew fonts and regional settings
2) hikeyboard for the hebrew letters keyboard
3) AEKeymap for the hardware keyboard
when i installed the hikeyboard he asked me if i want to use it as the hardware keyboard but it didn't worked so i reinstalled the AEKeymap again.
pickiki said:
i meant that i used your:
1) Hebrew cab for Hebrew fonts and regional settings
2) hikeyboard for the hebrew letters keyboard
3) AEKeymap for the hardware keyboard
when i installed the hikeyboard he asked me if i want to use it as the hardware keyboard but it didn't worked so i reinstalled the AEKeymap again.
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ok now i understand, thanks man
but as i mentioned next version will have sip embedded so
until then let me know if theres anything else you need me to change or add
corection!!
the badnimits_hebrew.cab does includes AEKmap!!
my bad!
this works great!
thanks a lot man!
What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?
works great
rbroudo said:
What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?
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yes and pretty much every new rom thats circulating in this forum.
its a very simple support(unlike eyron or pdac) so i guess unless someone finds out a rom in which it doesnt work will go with any.
rbroudo said:
What build version was this tested on?
Does this version works with any of the new builds? 21176, 21189?
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yes and pretty much every new rom thats circulating in this forum.
its a very simple support(unlike eyron or pdac) so i guess unless someone finds out a rom in which it doesnt work in we'll go with any.
I am sooo glad to post this!
Your hebrew works great on the WWE3 for the Magician-still didn't realize if it is a 2003SE with wm6.1 theme or a completely new cooked ROM.
the ROM was taken from :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490948
Haleluya
sounds great, I am on a vogue though (no keyboard) so I will be waiting for the next release,
Just a thought, if it works on several models, you should probably consider posting it in the general hacking and development forum section, it will get much more exposure.
Thanks for your great work.
motorola q9c
I tried installing it on Motorola q9c smartphone but shows hebrew in wrong direction. Also how do i switch keyboard layout from english to hebrew
moshe5738 said:
I tried installing it on Motorola q9c smartphone but shows hebrew in wrong direction. Also how do i switch keyboard layout from english to hebrew
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i dont really know that phone but this is pda based so dll wise
smart phones are not fully compatible to anything in this forums.
to change the key setting u can use AEKMapScan in \program files\aekmap\ press the key/s that u want to use to switch layouts find out the "key code" then edit AEKMap.cfg and change the line
SwitchKey 007A to
SwitchKey ****=your code
goodluck
Motorola Q9c
Are there any settings to play with that may get it to work.
Thanks alot
Happy to inform that the recent version works great on all Hermes ROMs I tried so far!
Is this an indication that the keyboard is the main cause of previous failures? (that's the only visible difference I could see).
Anyway - great work!
Obviously a soft keyboad would be nice, but this is already very nice!
SURE!
every ROM i have tested till mr. nimits showed up was dramatically decreased on performance after ANY Hebrew installation i tried.
moshe5738 said:
Are there any settings to play with that may get it to work.
Thanks alot
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my guess is that INBiDi20.dll doesnt self register properly, if u got any version of hebrew that did work maybe u can try replacing it with any dll that has bidi in its name from the working version
otherwise i cant really help cause i dont have that phone to test on so it will be a waste of time.. GL
ygeller said:
Happy to inform that the recent version works great on all Hermes ROMs I tried so far!
Is this an indication that the keyboard is the main cause of previous failures? (that's the only visible difference I could see).
Anyway - great work!
Obviously a soft keyboad would be nice, but this is already very nice!
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Glad to hear and to add that it also works on the new wm6.5 21189 builds flawlessly..
the previous failures are cause eyron pdac and paragon are a bunch of greedy
bastards that dont like to work but like to take our money so they did as less as possible whilst developing their hebrews