What different between singed hardspl and unsigned hardspl - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development

What different between singed hardspl and unsigned hardspl?

Come on... read the topics with the signed and unsigned SPL and you will find out. It's in the first post.
If an admin could close this thread it would be perfect.

There are a lot many threads in Diamond forum which refers to and provides support for tom's hspl for diamonds. Check that one. Please dont open a new thread for something that is available off the shelf
Thank You

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[UPG]HardSPLs 1.23, 1.24 and 1.34

Those who have troubles with other HardSPL versions can give the attached 1.23 (shipped), 1.24 (mfg), 1.34 (shipped) HardSPLs a try.
To flash any of these, first establish an activesync connection via usb. Then run diamond-sspl.bat and confirm execution on touchscreen. The screen will turn black. Now run DiamondCustomRUU from either the HardSPL-1.23, HardSPL-1.24 or HardSPL-1.34 folder.
I have tested these versions on my diamond and did not have any issues with them. I prefer 1.24 because it is a mfg spl. A mfg spl includes additional commands for the manufacturer (htc) to test a device as opposed to the shipped spl which is installed on stock devices.
A particular spl may fix bugs, may be needed to support new hardware (e.g. lcd or touchscreen) or is required to optimally support a particular version of the OS and/or radio. Only try another spl if you have issues with your currently installed one. If you have no issues then don't flash another spl.
Further questions about spl are answered here
Credits:
1. cmonex for the wonderful relocation hack in sspl
2. pof for JumpSPL
perhaps my memory is bad, but the MFG we based Hard-SPL on is the same version as this or newer possibly, I'll find out later.
closing the stable door after the horse already bolted?
Thanks.
Good to see you here on the diamond forum, jockyw2001
After the great work you did for the kaisers hope it will be the same for the diamond.
Great works again Jocky..
Thanks u so much..
Installed 1.24.Hard version.Working fine in my device
Olipro said:
perhaps my memory is bad, but the MFG we based Hard-SPL on is the same version as this or newer possibly, I'll find out later.
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no they're different, and possibly 1.24 is older if u left the version# untouched
closing the stable door after the horse already bolted?
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no, for sure not
will try later
i have tryed others...and they just sit at 0%
im no n00b.....i do know what i am doing
Hey! JockyW is here!
Yey, JockW is here. I love your works in Kaiser sections. Welcome, friend.
jockyw2001 said:
Those who have troubles with other HardSPL versions can give the attached 1.23 (shipped) and 1.24 (mfg) HardSPLs a try.
To flash any of these, first establish an activesync connection via usb. Then run diamond-sspl.bat and confirm execution on touchscreen. The screen will turn black. Now run DiamondCustomRUU from either the HardSPL-1.23 or HardSPL-1.24 folder.
I have tested both versions on my diamond and did not have any issues with them. I prefer 1.24 because it is a mfg spl.
Credits:
1. cmonex for the wonderful relocation hack in sspl
2. pof for JumpSPL
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Hi man, happy to see you here ( i still owe you from radio from hell!!!)
i have a noob question: whats the difference between this hardspl and Olinex version? and do i hjave to change it?( i already have olinex developers edition)
Thanks jocky bro..!
It works just fine
i installed 1.24... it works although i can't see anything special.
@JockyW2001
Can this HSPL be overwritten for warranty returns with original SPL or it also must be signed by your special certificate first? I am referring to OliNex-unsigned "back-to-original-SPL" method.
SecureGSM said:
@JockyW2001
Can this HSPL be overwritten for warranty returns with original SPL or it also must be signed by your special certificate first? I am referring to OliNex-unsigned "back-to-original-SPL" method.
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You can flash any signed spl with this sspl. Which signature is used doesn't matter: self-signed, olinex, or htc it doesn't make a difference.
works thank you
this now lets me flash what ever i want
before i was getting stuck at 0%...grrrrrr
thank you for this...you are a star!
Great release Buddy still using your first beta
HardSPL v1.34 added to first post.
jockyw2001 said:
HardSPL v1.34 added to first post.
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thanks for update.I looking for 1.37 and 1.93 SPL in next times
I am confused which one to install?
What is mfg?
Which is better?
Sorry for all questions at once but i am really confused.
BTW i have olinex 1.40 dev edition.
Mfg spl version includes additional commands for the manufacturer (htc) to test a device as opposed to the shipped spl which is installed on stock devices.
A particular spl may fix bugs, may be needed to support new hardware (e.g. lcd or touchscreen) or is required to optimally support a particular version of the OS and/or radio. Only try another spl if you have issues with your currently installed one. If you have no issues then don't flash another spl.
Further questions about spl are answered here
jockyw2001 said:
Mfg spl version includes additional commands for the manufacturer (htc) to test a device as opposed to the shipped spl which is installed on stock devices.
A particular spl may fix bugs, may be needed to support new hardware (e.g. lcd or touchscreen) or is required to optimally support a particular version of the OS and/or radio. Only try another spl if you have issues with your currently installed one. If you have no issues then don't flash another spl.
Further questions about spl are answered here
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Thanks for the quick answer. It explained everything that i needed to know.
so many hard-spls, so little time
k sorry this sounds so noobish but i've never seen so many hard-spl's in one forum before ha..
so you're basically saying if people are having trouble flashing with the other hard-spl (do you have any explanation as to why this is?) they should just try each of these and see which one works?
i guess what i'm wondering is why would 1.23hard-spl work better for someone than 1.34? what i'm guessing right now is, 1.24 is MFG so should work better in most instances, but technically the best 'fit' would be a hard-spl based on your shipped spl?

olinex 1.40 signed upgrade

hi guys
to save my sanity the orignal thread on this has become so long with so many serparate queries.
I am currently running signed olinex 1.30 but need to upgrade to signed 1.40 so i can upgrade the radio
please can someone post here the direct link to the olinex 1.40 signed file
and finally any ohter factors i should be aware of in this process
many thanks in advance
i will be keeping the ROM as current on RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
help as per :
as per guide on signed upgrade on racerx site :
http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
this semms to link to older files.. if the duirect file in question her could be linked in this thread i would be very grateful
I have made signed radios available here:
http://htcroms.aplace4u.biz/signed/radio/
Will work fine with your signed 1.30 Hard-SPL
hi
thanks
are you sure though as in the guide it says
Do not proceed to flash your Radio without Hard-SPL on your device! You can follow the guide here for more info. Currently, there are no signed Radio ROMs so you must have unsigned Hard-SPL to flash one (at your own risk!)
mine is the signed 1.30 olinex
:S
porkmince said:
hi
thanks
are you sure though as in the guide it says
Do not proceed to flash your Radio without Hard-SPL on your device! You can follow the guide here for more info. Currently, there are no signed Radio ROMs so you must have unsigned Hard-SPL to flash one (at your own risk!)
mine is the signed 1.30 olinex
:S
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I'm positive, i signed them myself, and have used them on my own Diamond
indeed you are correct sorry for questioning you
radio upgraded and ready to rock
thanks for the confirmation
a bit new to all this so thought always better to check with someone that knows
cheers
Sure, no worries.
Thank you very much Corian, very useful !!
Worked perfectly with my Olinex 1.30 signed Hard-SPL.
I think global perfomances (TF3D) have been improved.
Bye
hi, sorry for reviving an old thread but i gotta know, if i want to upgrade my 1.30 signed to 1.40 or .193 unsigned, should i just run the ruu or jump spl first? thanks!

tutorial/description/info/guide

Hi everyone!
Here's the deal! I'm no noob to flashing, cooking and HardSPL as I'm positive there are plenty of users who are swimming in the same pool.
Moving from another device's forum (Trinity) to the Diamond forum is quite a shock. So many posts, so many threads.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
For instance:
I'm running an old version of Radio and Official Diamond ROM (Stock), 1.00.25.03 Radio and 1.37.479.3 WWE ROM.
Bootloader version is:
Code:
DIAM100 64M
SPL-1.37.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
PSOC-Diam STAGE_PVT v0x30
I'd like to first upgrade to another Official ROM, like RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.
No info on following:
- changing an original to another original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- changing a supposed EU original to an Asia original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- if there is need for it when upgradin ROM, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
- if there is need for it when upgradin Radio, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
etc.
I can live with my new device with stock ROM, I can tweak it, no problem.
But it is my strong belief that a detailed tutorial/description/info/guide thread could get a nice sticky.
Something that would make new users like:
"Oh, I just bought a Diamond, I read this sticky, compared my bootloader info with the ones stated in the thread, checked my ROM and Radio, checked my new ROM and Radio which I want to flash, so I need this/I don't need any HardSPL and it worked"
Yes, call it spoon-feeding, but while looking at the Forums and reading and searching, there's so much clutter some can't even find the Search button!
My two cents!
I totally agree !!! We are needing that "tutorial for dummies"
Im new to the Diamond forum too, had a tytn for ages though.
I found everything i needed to know on the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help
geistteufel said:
Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help
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Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?
tnyynt said:
Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?
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You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps
andy2111 said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps
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I know that, remember, I'm not a n00b.
First, I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account.
Second, this is what I am talking about: You said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM.
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Other peoples opinion:
omaga said:
You need hardspl on every one, and all are offcial roms as they were downloaded
only the rom you can download from your own HTC e-club site dont need hardspl.
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Contradictory information?
Now since I don't have any updates in my own e-Club, there's the HardSPL option with other (even Official) ROMs.
Question is: which one? (1.23, 1.24, 1.34, Developer edition, Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex, HardSPL_OliNex138_Signed or RUU_Signed_1_93OliNex_HSPL_UnsignedEdition).
This is crazy!
Maybe that's the difference then - perhaps ROM downloads via the e-club are treated differently, although I can't think how.
Seems that Cmonex and Olipro are the SPL experts here (I'm sure you've already seen this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402) so maybe they're the best ones to help.
If it helps I updated to HardSLP 1.4 and ran quite happily on my stock ROM before upgrading to Dutty's ROM. I guess it's down to how adventurous/risky you want to be.
Good luck.
1. look at the next posts, i blew it on this answer..
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
here, an answer from THE expert:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2484533&postcount=143
2. if i convinced you to hardspl then go to the unsigned version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950.
i am using it from the beginning (2 month at least) and i flashed my diamond 4 times without any problem at all.
3.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
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already there, in almost each ROM thread.
i think all cooks start their thread with the warning (hardspl first!) and a link to the recommended hardspl.
bepe is "all signed" so he never mention which hardspl.
others, for example:
dutty's choice of hardspl: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
[WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V5.0 - CE OS 5.2.20273 (BUILD 20273 AKU 1.3.3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2312249&postcount=2 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2412201&postcount=1first
DIAMOND PROJECT ROM Release V3.2 [WWE/GER/ITA/FRE/RUS/ESN]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
i wonder what happened to you.... learn from post #3!! you are a ROM cook...you are the "uber" user! we should ask you questions
I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.
vrstu said:
I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.
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i think you are right. never thought at this scenario.....
usually i don't buy my pda branded. no plan, no 3 years, free as a bird!
thanks for bringing it to my attention.
yeah, hard-spl to allow you to flash ROMs from other regions..
technically you shouldn't need it to 'protect' your device since its an official ROM upgrade, but then again you're trying to flash an upgrade that's not from your region so not too sure how that affects your warranty.. i would stick with hard-spl no matter what.
Although you may experience better results with certain ROMs using a certain SPL (this hasn't been clearly shown on the diamond to my knowledge) seems like the SPL is more tied to your hardware (why certain people get screen flicker and fuzzy fonts after flashing.. wrong SPL). so it stands to reason if your hardware doesn't change, you *shouldn't* have to change your SPL just cause you're flashing a new ROM
KukurikU said:
1. you don't need hardspl when you want to flash an official ROM.
if you should need one then HTC should release it with the ROM. no such thing!
HTC release official ROM "like it is" for all ppl even for the ones that never heard of hardspl. simple logic.
if you buy it branded look at the next two posts!
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
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I have experince now with 3 HTC devices: 1. i had Trinity with wwe rom when i bought it-> try to put it to my language (Finnish ROM) didnt work, used hardspl-> it worked
2. Polaris with wwe 6.0 rom, tried to update to the latest wm6.0 rom which was a rom from Singapore, no succes-> put hardspl in device->it worked
3. In my Diamond i put hardspl right away(after 2 hour use), so that one i didnt test at all, based on my previous experience I didnt even try to flash the official 1.93 rom witout hardspl
So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience
[/QUOTE]So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience[/QUOTE]
From my experience from the diamond, you have to flash hardspl onto your handset before you can use 'other region' roms even when it is 'official'.
I have a HK WWE handset and tried to flash my rom with the first upgrade rom from SEA, and it wouldnt flash. it would say my handset is not from the correct region.
i flashed a hard spl afterwards and it worked.
So from pak1234 experience we can make some conclusion? its the same experience I got with Polaris and Trinity
Noob Agony
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.
bluntyeyedfool said:
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.
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congrats on yr first successfull step (english language on yr swiss locked diamond)! perseverance and good reading skills pay back.
welcome to our forum!
from yr post i can understand that you started as an intelligent user/member of this forum (as opposed to noob) by using this forum accordingly with it's rules.
there are stupid questions. if one of the next is called by somebody "arrogant response" then he'll have to adjust or just grow elephant skin (i can name a few that already did):
1. "search, this was already posted". (most used)
2. "read the manual." (almost an insult)
3. "read wiki." (friendly, useful advice)
4. "most of the polls are useless." (no comment necessary)
5. "comparisons between any other ppc and diamond does not belong here, this a diamond only forum." (sadly not enough enforced)
a noob is not somebody with a low count of posts. a noob is somebody with a noobish attitude (total disregard of the forum's rules and it's members, wanting everything now, ready, chewed and put in his mouth).
respect the forum and it's members and you'll get respect and help beyond yr wildest dreams.
yr PS only confirm all from the above.
i prefer not to comment yr horses-payback threat
noob here
Hello all, noob here, just got my diamond via vodafone NL.
The device is sim locked contrary to what the agreement with was.
The current rom running on it makes this device incredibly slow, my brother has an p3300 which works way faster than my diamond (but does not look so nice).
This made me start looking for a solution. I've been reading this site for three full days and I'm still very confused, everything and it's contrary is written here, how is one supposed to draw a conclusion?
With that said I would like to see a well written tutorial in plain english and that does not assume the reader is a techie.
It should explain:
- How to backup the original ROM and hardSPL
- How to flash a new rom and avoid issues with screen flickering and so on
- How to restore the original ROM and hardSPL in case the device needs to be send back for repair
- Clarify what to do with radio roms
- How to unlock a device to be used with any sim card (ok this already exists, i've seen the sticky)
Thanks
One more question to be added
- Why would you need a CID and security unlocker?
I thought it was just another name for sim card lock but apparently not.
tnyynt said:
I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account
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You should go to Support section of their site, that is where they post ROM updates apparently. e-Club has only ringtones.

please help us newbies to safely flash our phones

im a newbie to all this flashing and stuff but what i need is
a guide on how to install
[WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V7.0 FULL - CE OS 5.2.20753 (Build 20273 AKU 1.3.3)
yea its easy to say read the phucking manual *RTFM* and all those
Godly phrases but to tell you the true im struggling
im trying to follow this giude and im already stuck at the begining
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408109
just to get the Hard-SPL is a blinking nightmare
OliNex Unsigned Hard-SPL (Developers Edition) or jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24
on the OliNex Unsigned Hard-SPL (Developers Edition) he says
TO FLASH THE NEW Hard-SPL, Select Force-SPL, you should only choose otherwise when recovering your device from an old Hard-SPL version!
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i have downloaded all software and cant find the Force-SPL
jockyw2001's HardSPL 1.24
the diamond-sspl.bat does not run on my phone
i would love to get this rom on my phone as there is so much good words about it but im a newbie and need an easier guide.
i am hoping some one can show some light and help me (us newbies)
get passed this by providing a simple how to, on how to get this all up
and running
thank you
PS. if you are going to reply with an high and almighty attitude then please
just move on as it requires less muscle energy and provides no solutions
Take a look here:
www.modmydiamond.info
Think it can be helpfull.
Take unsigned HardSPL just to save hassle, just be carefull what roms you flash.
If 20 people succesfully flashed it, so you can.
thanks Riel i be checking that out today
HD
you "newbies" should have just opened your eyes to see the obvious:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
i think it's pretty well explained and any new questions should have already found their answers in that thread.
p.s. when i first joined there wasn't such a thread, and i still came through. you don't have to think flashing your rom is mission impossible
@Riel
Can you offer a WWE Rom for us?
Like you said installed by people and working?
Thanks

Inquiery for a Hermes Rom

I'm posting this up for a friend of mine. She has a Hermes htc 8525 on T-mobile. I need to find a 6.1 Rom for her that is just bare bones. Just plain works. No flashy stuff. She wants to add on to it after the install through cabs. So just something that is tried an true, flash an go. Thank you all. Also, if someone wouldn't mind, I'm used to flashing cdma devices, The process is the same, correct? Fi someone wouldn't also mind pointing me to the Hard spl I need, pretty sure the one I have for my mogul won't work for her hermes.
hi, just check out the chef's utra-lite or naked cooked WM6.1 roms in the same section u posted u'r thread...
also, here's the hardspl & flashing info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
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Hello,
Please search before posting.
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