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WM6 German Keyboard (Space to change a ->ä)

Help needed
Using VW6 (Vanilla) on a Germen Hermes. Hardware Keyboard works fine except the space key to change a -> ä, u ->è etc.
Does anybody solved this issue ?
Didn't found any solution on the forum.
Thx

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279158

belinea said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279158
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Thanks, but that's what i already tried

hi don't know if this work in wm6 ... i have made it in aku33 test (englisch too) and it works...
change the reg key in oem/qwerty to 3 at the end (dec.)
also look in the wiki there are more things explained...

futureshock said:
hi don't know if this work in wm6 ... i have made it in aku33 test (englisch too) and it works...
change the reg key in oem/qwerty to 3 at the end (dec.)
also look in the wiki there are more things explained...
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Already tried, also followed the wiki.... Keyboard is OK. just the space key doesnt change to äöüéàè

You can try to duplicate the file sym.0409.txt in the windows folder and name this new file sym.0407.txt. It worked for me for the french keyboard (sym.040C.txt in french).

What Atmis said, I simply modified the sym.0409.txt file in /Windows so I easily could type Swedish characters such as å,ä & ö with a/o + space. You need to copy it over to your computer with active sync, edit the file then move it back.

shandar said:
What Atmis said, I simply modified the sym.0409.txt file in /Windows so I easily could type Swedish characters such as å,ä & ö with a/o + space. You need to copy it over to your computer with active sync, edit the file then move it back.
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Already tried to copy the origional sym.409.txt to sym.407.txt (german) but when i press the "blue" space nothing happens.

You need to replace the sym.0409.txt file if your OS is in English.

shandar said:
You need to replace the sym.0409.txt file if your OS is in English.
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Actually i've 3 files (for testing) sym.0409.txt, sym.0407.txt, sym.txt and it does not work.
Having Hermes with QWERTZ keyboard (switzerland) and English WM6 (Vanilla)

That's interesting. I had the same issues when upgrading my device to AKU 3.3. After some changing forward backward between English and German Keyboard it suddenly worked.
I also upgraded a second device and I cannot get the space key working to change between the special letters.
I know it does not help but maybe it's an device bug. I will downgrade the device the other device when I can get it back again and see if it works with the original image.

It was working flawlessly for me, I just had to reboot the device after creating the new file.

Atmis said:
It was working flawlessly for me, I just had to reboot the device after creating the new file.
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... After HardReset, installing the "German Input Cab", modifiying sym.0409.txt and a reboot everything is working fine...
Probably some manipulation described in the wiki i made before installing the cab made the changes...
finally it works. thanks to all

Ehm. I am not trying to sound stupid or anything. but how do I find this"sym.409.txt"? I would like to change some of the keys into norwegian symbols like æ, ø and å.
I have just heard something about the root folder.
But in that case. where is it, I assume that I am just being blind or something but.
THanks for your help

ukon said:
Ehm. I am not trying to sound stupid or anything. but how do I find this"sym.409.txt"? I would like to change some of the keys into norwegian symbols like æ, ø and å.
I have just heard something about the root folder.
But in that case. where is it, I assume that I am just being blind or something but.
THanks for your help
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Not blind, the file is hidden, at least on my system with Josh Manulla2D.
To see the file in Windows, using File Explorer, click on "Menu/Show All Files".
My problem is that I have made changes for my German keyboard on an English language install, but I cannot replace the file in \Windows. All I get is an Access Denied message.
Anybody know how I can get past this to replace the sym.409.txt file?
Task Manager is installed so surely it must be some service that needs killing to free up the file.
Regards
Peter

Not sure what's the issue.
You might want to try solution from Josh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3218396&postcount=774

Keyboard - please help on Scandinavian settings

Hep. Have been looking around the forum to find a way to change the keyboard layout (Hardware), to Danish.
I simply cant make it work. I have the Live 0.2 rom, and have tried the reg. editing as written in the forum..but no go.
Can someone please give a guide to which rom that I can use if I want a Danish Keyboard - or can someone do anything about the Keyboard issues. (Make some kind of a cab or??) I cannot do it myself, but would really be thankfull.
And - great thing with all this rom biz. I know nothing about it - but loves to jazz up my phone...hehehe
Greatings from Viking Land

Isnt that avalible in the extrom?

stinger32 said:
Isnt that avalible in the extrom?
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I dont know??

I'm using LVSW version and somehow every softreset reverts \oem\qwerty registry back to uk mapping, manual edit and/or nordic keymapping.cab is useless, it have to be something with LVSW version, because xda live was working with nordic cab...

kha said:
I'm using LVSW version and somehow every softreset reverts \oem\qwerty registry back to uk mapping, manual edit and/or nordic keymapping.cab is useless, it have to be something with LVSW version, because xda live was working with nordic cab...
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I have tried to change the registry, but i does not seem to do anything for me. I wonder if the settings somehow can be extracted from wm5?

Look at this post Norwegian Keyboard on WM 6?, it has the cab file for the keyboard attached, this is used for all nordic tytn.

I've just installed xdalive keyboard fix cab-> softreset -> nordic keymap cab -> softreset and now the mapping is correct!

kha said:
I've just installed xdalive keyboard fix cab-> softreset -> nordic keymap cab -> softreset and now the mapping is correct!
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HAHAHAAAAA - its working. Yaaahuuuuuuu. Lets get som ROMs.... I cannot tell you how glad this made me..
TyTn Rules - The King Of Phones
Go Chefs, Go - lets get som roooommmmsss

Where can I download xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?

callahan said:
Where can I download xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?
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I am wondering the same thing, have tried to search the forum with no luck

are there some who got the xdalive keyboard fix cab and nordic keymap cab?

when you guys find all the solutions to the mapping add them to the wiki, or pm me the list of fixes all nice and neat and i will put them on there

This works on XDA-Live & Black (at least)
Here's the one I use and it works on most of them anyways. Remember to soft reset afterwards.

Whenever I flash a new ROM or do a hard reset I just change the following ONE registry setting.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
"Layout"=132116
Why not make a fix_my_qwerty_mapping.reg file and save this on your storage card, content like this (I have no idea how to make a .cab file, but this works fine for me):
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty\]
"Layout"=dword:20414
This is the Norwegian settings, but it doesn't matter for Finnish, Swedish and Danish users - it's all the same mapping. I got a TyTN/Herm 200 and for all I know this could be firmware dependent.
The number "132116" is decimal and found by:
20+countrycode, country code for Norway: 0414. That will be 20414. Converting this hex to dec gives 132116.
(When using the .reg file it writes in hex and therefore 20414, but you can manually enter the number directly into the register using hex if you like.)
Country codes:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx
Remember to power down/up after applying this registry change - not just a stylus soft reset.

shadoefrizon said:
Here's the one I use and it works on most of them anyways. Remember to soft reset afterwards.
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Thanks man it worked on my HTC TyTn. No im typing in swedish

How do i get the æøå maped to a key so i don't need to go in to sym?

Shauge said:
How do i get the æøå maped to a key so i don't need to go in to sym?
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You have of course searched, found og tried:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
"Layout"="132116"
So then I dont know....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry

after running the cab file in this forum my h button is now a + when i am in contackts searching for a person?

Hi fellow Scandinavians.
Try these attached files.
They work perfectly in both WM5 and WM6.
Both should be installed on the device at the same time.

thx Torben schould i do a reset first now that the other things are ****ed up?
and how will i get the æøå maped to a key?

How to get Samsung i780 Keyboard Qwerty to Azerty driver ?

Hello all,
i have read through a lot in the forum and have alerady flashed and tweaked a lot my i780 with my readings of your Forum. (after doing the same for my TyTNII !))
Bravo to all BTW.
I have a French i780 with an AZERTY keyboard.
I have flashed with the DXHC4 PDA & Phone ROM found here. Since then I have a QWERTY keyboard when the physical keyboard is AZERTY
I have tried the registry edition in order to modify the keyboard mapping to 040C code in the 3 locations described in the different posts without success as it rendres inactive the keyboard.
I tried the different combinations etc...
Here are the exact lines :
in hkey_current_user\keyboard layout\preload string default e0010409 changed to e001040c
\\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active to 0000040c
Is there an issue with a dll or someting in addition ?
Also, I do use RealVGA in 96dpi with an English pack as the french pack is trashing the i780
Any idea is more than welcome !

Hello the i780 specialists ?
Any Idea what registry key to update ? or which driver ?
do you think a cab like the one for the Kayser can be compiled ?
Thanks

While youre on it, please get us the key for Swedish keyb as well
I flashed with the english ROM as well, and....

I am pretty sure there must be a way and it would be great to know the right registry location - would like to change mine over to QUERTZ as I am having an English rom with a German keyboard...
And ideas anyone?
Thanks
Alex

AE Keyboard Mapper
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.

Juggeli said:
While we are waiting for better solution the buttons can be mapped to right letters wit AE Keyboard Mapper program. I've mapped my samsungs ä and ö buttons with that and they are working as they should.
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Yes it work but i creates a very irritating keybaord lag when using the keys that is mapped with AE keyboardmapper.

Yep, I have seen this tutorial, but I must admit that I am not at all interested in the software emulation. I 'd rather wait for a proper OS / registry / hw solution

No news guys ???

First of all, I'm no export in this and want to apologize for my english, cause I'm german.
Me too wants to change the keyboard layout as I have an english rom with qwerty and want to get back my german qwertz-layout.
As far as I've found out there is an registry entry under "HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName" which with my device maps to a dll named "zylonite_keypad_us.dll"
This file seems to be located in the ROM. I couldn't copy it for editing. Maybe someone can develop an idea how to deal with this.

solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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Do you have an I780?
If yes, which of these mentioned steps did you do?
This is not yet working for me. At the Moment the hardware keyboard doesn't work at all...
Edit: So, keyboard is working again. But "z" and "y" are still "swapped". So still not the German- QWERTZ

Same here, ive got an azerty i780, but this tip does'nt work for me

It doesn't work at all
The keyboard is rendered NON active by modifiying these reg keys / strings ...

webise said:
solution here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290967
For now my keyboard does more, but I hope
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When I change the settings like that thread, my keyboard stopped working
I use the code: 041d for Swedish.
Mind helping out what I need to do? I followed the instructions from that page but the keyboard just stopped working, the hardware keyb that is.

In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís

Before flashing my azerty orange fr i780, i saved HKLM sytem tree, and the dll is the same.
The only difference in HKLM tree is :
\\HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout\Active
040c for azerty french
0409 for US
But doesn't work on my device

lmbranco said:
In my humble opinion the problem is that when we change the registry keys we are telling windows to use a different dll that simply is not there, and so the keyboard becomes inactive. The solution is that someone with a German WM6 gets the german dll and shares it with us.
Regards,
Luís
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Or a Swedish ROM since there are a few of us that would need the swedish dll then

I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?

dll is : zylonite_keypad_Us.dll
But totalcommander refuses to copy the file

entropy said:
I still got the German phone and intend to upgrade to UK ROM. What dll exactly do you guys need?
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Do you have a registry editor on yout I780?
Then look at: HKLM/Hardware/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/DriverName
There should be a .dll listed.
I guess thats the one we need. But I fear, as webise said, that you can't copy this file from your windows folder. As far as I've seen this file is in ROM.

How to disable/remove Keytouch from Kavana's 6.1?

Hi everybody.
The kavana 6.1 rom works great on my phone, yet the keytouch IME is giving me a lot of headache.
Could anyone tell me how could I uninstall Keytouch, so that I can switch to other IMEs, such as et9 and MSPY?
I've searched the forum and some other places too, but information on removing keytouch is found.
Thanks!

Ya no kidding it was kinda cool at first but now its just annoying and it's laggy. if i knew Chinese it would be great but for English you don't need anything fancy like that.
So Someone help can it be removed or disabled?

shenfy said:
Hi everybody.
The kavana 6.1 rom works great on my phone, yet the keytouch IME is giving me a lot of headache.
Could anyone tell me how could I uninstall Keytouch, so that I can switch to other IMEs, such as et9 and MSPY?
I've searched the forum and some other places too, but information on removing keytouch is found.
Thanks!
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What do you mean by keytouch? predictive text.

What do you mean by keytouch? predictive text.?
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Kinda it's in one of Kavanas new roms it's for chinese and english but frankly i don't need it. I did find something out though.
To make it so it's English only goto and change registry to whats bellow
HKEY_Current_User\Software\HTC\KeyTouch
SupportedLang EN
SupportedLangCount 1
That will remove the Chinese functionality. Which helps alot but doesn't make it perfect.
To remove it all together You'd have to change the registry to the following
HKEY_Local_Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File compime.dll
Layout Text COMP IME
BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM
there is no compime.dll in the rom which means we would have to find the english one from another rom and install it to our windows directory. I am not quite sure it that is right so please con someone help out with this file XD

Press Fn+Space or CAP+Space will give you the choice of 'abc' mode.

Press Fn+Space or CAP+Space will give you the choice of 'abc' mode.
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dude no it wont. this is Keytouch it hijacks that menu it isn't your original rom setup.

lmao i dont know why it took so long for me to think of this.
Go to this forum download and install Tegic T9 then you can do the Fn + Space thing. It makes key touch go poof.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397723&highlight=Tegic+T9

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lmao i dont know why it took so long for me to think of this.
Go to this forum download and install Tegic T9 then you can do the Fn + Space thing. It makes key touch go poof.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397723&highlight=Tegic+T9
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yes for sure, wasn't this link in the forum above called my tab/o button doesn't work? this link is like in almost every single thread now

[Samsung i780] Keyboard layouts for all languages - PLEASE ATTACH HERE!

I'm building a tool to hot switch between different keyboard language layouts with a simple soft reset. Can you help me by giving all different keyboard language dlls here? The two files i need are the zylonite_keyboard_xx.dll and sym.xxxx.txt files from your corresponding language.
Please add all these here, and i'll support those many languages! I currently have russian, swedish, german, english with me right now.

here
msn: [email protected]
mail:[email protected]
I will give you the korean .dll

I'm interested with having a i780 rom with french keyboard.
I have a windows 6.1 rom and I found zylonite_keypad_Us.dll and sym.040C.txt but I was not able to copy these file from the phone.
The files are read only and it's impossible to change status with totalcommander program.
Any idea to copy files?

poirelotto said:
I'm interested with having a i780 rom with french keyboard.
I have a windows 6.1 rom and I found zylonite_keypad_Us.dll and sym.040C.txt but I was not able to copy these file from the phone.
The files are read only and it's impossible to change status with totalcommander program.
Any idea to copy files?
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yes man its possible. you need to install resco file explorer http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/ this one works, or SOTI http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=MC

here's a picture from WIP....
currently paused development until i get some time...
Right now, the app switches all registry settings to point to different dlls....so a rom cook needs to embed different language dlls into the rom as modules, and users will have access to different keyboard languages by simply selecting what lang to use
cheers

Thanks for your help Heineken78, I will try.
dreamtheater39, can you give me all registry settings necessary to change keyboard layout?
regards,

poirelotto said:
Thanks for your help Heineken78, I will try.
dreamtheater39, can you give me all registry settings necessary to change keyboard layout?
regards,
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ufortunately Poirelotto, you will be not able to make it work by replacing only file and cheanging registry settings, replacing can be done only in ROM before cooking.
There is another idea to rename desired zylonite_keyboardUS.dll driver and change registry whereever this filename found to new filename.
Should be working.

Hi Heneken78,
I installed RescoExplorer but it's impossible to copy zylonite_keypad_us.dll because it's properties are : readonly,system,ROM
Any idea to change properties of the file and allowing it to be copied?
Thanks,

poirelotto said:
Hi Heneken78,
I installed RescoExplorer but it's impossible to copy zylonite_keypad_us.dll because it's properties are : readonly,system,ROM
Any idea to change properties of the file and allowing it to be copied?
Thanks,
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Then install S O T I http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d86fc601ac0d83010de4fc1039a01674e04e75f6e8ebb871. It does total remote control of PDA. Usefull program

I dump the rom so I can get files from the french ROM.
Please tell me when french keyboard is available on your tool.
regards,

I dump the rom so I can get files from the french ROM.
Please tell me when french keyboard is available on your tool.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4f45fd5d4cbfe9f341446e35a78dc463e04e75f6e8ebb871
regards,

almost done with the keyboard DLL switcher
heres a pic!

so when we can test it ?

will release a new rom with this tomorrow....hang tight

hmm so u can make a cab file too ?

ssr_german said:
hmm so u can make a cab file too ?
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hmm...at the moment, it has to be cooked into the rom in a special way to get it to work.....still working on getting it to simply install as a cab file....
so at the moment, it'll go into the rom....and maybe the next version will be just a cab installer
cheers

oh ok so i wait for the cab
thnx
ssr

so this will change both soft and hardware keybord? or only one of them?
if it will be in cab later would that work on 6.0 6.1 and 65 builds as well as offical realeases of 6.0 and 6.1?

ElVikin said:
so this will change both soft and hardware keybord? or only one of them?
if it will be in cab later would that work on 6.0 6.1 and 65 builds as well as offical realeases of 6.0 and 6.1?
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hardware keyboard. For software, theres anyway FingerKB that i embed in roms....which has all keyboard layouts.

i780 spanish keyboard
Hi,
I've got an i780 with Original Spanish ROM (WM 6.0 sadly)
I've searched the files you are looking for, and I found the txt file, but the Zylonite_keyboard_xx.dll doesn't exist on my rom... I found another file called "zylonite_keypad_us.dll", and I've attached it with the txt file.
Hope it will help you.