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any of you guys come across this app.. it's for getting push e-mail without an ms exchange server.
question: has anyone got a way round applying this to hotmail? i think the trick is to get outlook to accept hotmail and then use this app.
also, i'm running on vista so this isn't yet compatible.. anyone aware of a similar app - i can use with my hotmail - that'll do the trick?
thanks guys..
Free push email
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
palmbluetooth said:
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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But this doesn't support Hotmail does it?
I'm looking for a Hotmail solution... anyone?
Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
xaoc said:
Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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sorry to be a pain... don't think i can forward my hotmail messages... can i?
are you able to explain how to do this and any implications?
cheers...
I have had a quick look at this app and it seems like a good thing to me - bearing in mind I've seen other push email accounts charging £15 a month.
I have a couple of questions though, someone here might know the answer.
AIUI the email is delivered over GPRS so you need to be connected all the time.
so the first question is what sort of data gets transferred if you are connected all the time but not actually downloading anything? for example if you look at your broadband connection, even when you are not using it, small amounts of data are sent/received periodically. over the course of the day this could quite easily add up!!
next question is, although I have an O2 Orbit, I'm not actually on O2. I have a temporary T-Mobile sim card while I wait to start my new job and they give me my new phone (I'll just take the sim out and put it in my orbit). I have only seen an option to set up the configuration for O2. Can the GPRS settings for other networks be entered manually? or will I have to remove all the O2 settings that are installed after a hard reset to enable me to do this? (not something I really want to do)
In answer to the other comments about mail2web and mail2wap. I have been using this site for years and years, the only thing is you have to connect to the web and then check your mail....you might not have any but you still have to pay to connect and transfer data. Hence the push email is a better idea as you KNOW you have mail as opposed to checking in case you MIGHT have some with mail2web.
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Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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My understanding is that the free Mail2Web Live product uses the older Always Up To Date technology. i.e. it sends you a silent text message when new email arrives which triggers Pocket Outlook to connect by POP or IMAP and get your mail.
That is not a push mail product. It is a triggered pull. Not bad for free, but one should be clear it does not include Direct Push... unless something has recently changed (please feel free to correct me)
Mail2Web also offer Personal Exchange, a paid hosted exchange service which has Direct Push. I personally did not like their service as I was unhappy with the Junk mail filtering they use, but their most basic hosted exchange service with Direct Push is extremely cheap... though not free.
so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes? (assuming I am somewhere where I have wifi or internet access)
that doesn't sound too bad....as basically what I am after is something that tells me I have an email when it arrives in my inbox. All I need is a text message telling me who it's from and the subject. That way I can decide whether I want to connect to the net and pick up the email or whether it's something that can wait.
is there anyone who offers a service like that? (I think hotmail do but I don't want to use hotmail)
many thanks
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so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes?
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Sorry to the Mods if this is getting off-topic (realize this is an Artemis - Emoze thread... please move if appropriate!)
Goota be honest, it is a few months since I used any Mail2Web service so I can only report on my past experience. I recall they had fairly responsive/informative support by email and recommend you ask them directly.
I think Always Up To Date (AUTD) doesn't work quite the way you describe... not that it is bad at all, and it may well do what you need. Anyway, how it works is you would be installing a little application on your device which can recognize a special hidden/silent text message from the Exchange Server (you cannot see or read this message). It just tells you device that there is new email, that is all, Then your device switches on (screen goes on, comes out of suspend) and does a an email logon as if you had opened the relevant Pocket Outlook email account and hit the send/receive choice. It then logs on from scratch and retrieves your email (just headers or everything will based on your settings).
The good is this is may be free and can work on a pre-WM5 device. The downside is that it is much slower than true Direct Push and uses more battery. With Direct Push a handshake is already established with the Exchange Server and when you new mail arrives it drops into you mailbox within seconds without your device even needing to come out of standby. You just hear the audio alert of email arriving (depending on your prefered settings).
I tried the least expensive paid Exchange Service from mail2web. It was only about 2 USD a month with no contract so I am not complaining. I personally didn't like that, for me, it incorrectly marked almost every single message as Spam and I could not adjust this adequately unless I upgraded to their most expensive Exchange offering... which costs about the same as other similar services.
I am trying out the 1 and 1 Exchange service at present. OK, not fantastic. Probably we should have a thread specially for a good email round up... likely there is one already and I should probably be posting there....
HTH
What you need is WM6 with Windows Live!
I have a Wizard running WM6... just got my XDA Orbit on O2, WM5 :-(
On WM6, the MSN service is replaced with Windows Live, and that allows you to configure a hotmail account to sync up automatically or at specific intervals.
You can do it in WM5 using the MSN messageger with an ID linked to your hotmail acocunt, but you have to be logged in to messgencger for it to work.
If anyone can extract the Windows Live component form a WM6 rom....
I recently tried another application from qore.
The idea is that you get your emails forwarded to a service that texts you when you get an email (in my case T-Mobile offers this service). The application intercepts this text (you receive no notification, it's all done in the background) and triggers a send/receive on the email account specified on your unit. In my case connecting via GPRS and downloading my emails.
sadly, it seemed to interrupt random texts and since it's done in the background, you don't even know that the text has been intercepted. I was getting angry phone calls from my mates asking why I hadn't replied to texts, that I hadn't even seen!!
Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..
Hi folks,
I have a T-mobile dash (WM5) with a data plan (but no blackberry plan). My new employer uses only Palm OS Treo's and Blackberries for mobile corp email - although they use Outlook for desktop corp email !
The IT guys were a little puzzled with the Windows Mobile Device ! Anyway, I was wondering if there is a way to
1) Use my T-mobile dash's data plan
2) Along with a WM5 app
3) to connect to my corp blackberry's server.
I downloaded the WM5 blackberry app but it doesn't seem to connect anywhere, nor could I figure out how to set it up. Is there a step by step guide somewhere ?
Also, is that app very similar to the Treo/blackberries ? Then I could simply give my dash+BB connect to the IT guys and they could configure it (if the UI etc are similar to blackberries ... they know only treos and blackberries).
On a final note, I wanted to convince the head IT tech to support WM5 Outlook 'officially'. For this I need some information on how easy, secure it is to deploy this setup. Their current exchange server is mostly inside the corp firewall, so copying the desktop outlook settings to the dash doesn't work (desktop is inside corp firewall, dash is outside).
Thanks folks
Sid
Hello Sid!
I just came from a similar scenario- here's how I resolved my issues.
To be able to support direct push in Microsoft Exchange, a patch has to be applied to the server (The patch is called "Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) for Windows Mobile 5.0"). Direct Push allows your WM device to be in constant communication with the exchange server by pinging the exchange box for any changes to that user account (email). When a new email arrives in your inbox, your phone then downloads the new message. You can also sync your contacts, calendar, etc.
Unfortunately, my company has not applied this patch yet. When I went from my blackberry to WM5 device, they were not thrilled.
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
If you are interested in learning more about T-Mobile's MyEmail, go to:
http://www.myemail.t-mobile.com
For more information regarding Microsoft's Direct Push Technology, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/directpush.mspx
Cheers
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Hello Sid!
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
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But my corp email isin't POP or IMAP ... its exchange and blackberry. So while its a good suggestion, it won't help my situation. (?) I tried setting up my email via the "setup my email icon" but it doesn't work.
Also, exchange is inside the firewall so only "real" computers can access it via VPN/corp ethernet. Blackberry is outside the firewall. This is why my WM5 outlook can't even reach the real outlook server. I think I have two options
1) convince them to setup Exchange to talk to mobile devices
--> I'm going to forward your link to the IT guys so they can evaluate this option - thanks!
2) make my own WM5 device look/work reasonably similar to the Treo/Blackberries they are used to configuring. Then say "please set this up like a blackberry like you normally do".
For 2) I think I have found the app (bb connect?) but don't know
2.1) how to configure it
2.2) if it's the latest version (where do I get the latest version?)
2.3) If having just the data plan is good enough or do I need the special blackberry plan for this to work.
Hope that sheds more light .... thanks folks
Sid
Stoneage
Hi,
I have the same problem, only there's no convincing my IT department to support WM5 device. It supports only BB that are company property.
I have an external outlook privately setup with push mail and an alias for my corporate email, but the it seems like the redirect and auto forward rules I've defined in my outlook are forbidden or something, since they won't forward the mails I get from my exchange account to my external account.
Any idea how to go around this?
Some outlook plugin/software that will automatically forward mails to my external account?
Thanks.
Why don't you just get a blackberry data plan added to your account and use the blackberry connect client? That is all you need, as long as IT setup an account on your BES server at work.
Not that simple
If only life was that simple.
Not everybody can get a BB in our company and the IT department will not support devices that aren't owned by the company.
So, I'm looking for the workaround.
So I have a TP2 on Telus, and like the "Olden days" with my moto Q I have to use telus mail for push email...
the problem with telus mail is it was written for wm5 and it crashes every once in a while.
is there another solution that I could use for push email?
Thanks
there is always a paid solution.
I spent weeks trying to use configure and use Z-Push on my Linux box, I managed to get my Gmail to push to the phone but it wasn't perfect and I could not for the life of me configure my server to relay via SMTP to gmail despite many attempts and "almost" cracking it. I gave up in the end. lol
Neo.magic, that is why I'm now setting up my own exchange server, I may need a few people to help out with monthly plans for like $5.
If you are interested let me know.
So many choices
There are many options:
The best for you would probably be Seven Beta (download the version for the HTC Touch P3450 it works perfectly)
It allows push email with the most common email providers (yahoo, gmail, etc)
There are other options as well though:
2. Windows Live = Push email if you have a Live mail account or Hotmail account. Just go to your windows live settings and under 'sync schedule' select 'as items arrive'
3. Google Sync. It uses exchange & activesync fro push Gmail. It can even sync your contacts.
One of those 3 options must work for you.
Let me know. All work great for me.
Google synch is the way forward, they support email now so job done.
My first post but not new to this site or wonderful community..
Here's my dilemma (I performed a search but couldn't find the answer I was looking for)
On my TP2, I'm trying to configure Outlook email (push service) using my free Yahoo email account, circumventing the process of signing up for a Premium paid service with Yahoo.
The standard email service on WM just does not cut it for me; I need to receive real-time push notifications.
I hear that this can be done with specific settings. I was able to accomplish that using my free gmail account on my old Iphone. Blackberries can be configured with no problems as well.
Any ideas, tips, tricks and direction to the right place?
Sign up for the Seven beta. It'll give you push email service for Yahoo basic. Works most of the time, but since it's beta, the service can go down once in a while. So not a great option if it's mission critical.
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My first post but not new to this site or wonderful community..
Here's my dilemma (I performed a search but couldn't find the answer I was looking for)
On my TP2, I'm trying to configure Outlook email (push service) using my free Yahoo email account, circumventing the process of signing up for a Premium paid service with Yahoo.
The standard email service on WM just does not cut it for me; I need to receive real-time push notifications.
I hear that this can be done with specific settings. I was able to accomplish that using my free gmail account on my old Iphone. Blackberries can be configured with no problems as well.
Any ideas, tips, tricks and direction to the right place?
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Windows Mobile supports push-email natively only if you use Microsoft Exchange or Windows Live (i.e. Hotmail). So, if you don't want to use any 3rd party software, you can do the following:
1. Set up your Windows Live email and set to sync as items arrive.
2. Set your Yahoo account to forward all emails automatically to your Windows Live account.
Downside is, it's tedious to reply to emails with your Yahoo account. You'll see the email in your Windows Live account. Then you have to pull the email from your Yahoo account and reply to it there.
Alternatively, you can pay for an Exchange service that allows you to change the "From" field.
Thanks for responding all:
@ vudo: Can you elaborate on this beta Seven service that you speak of?
@ ohyeahar: What domain and server address do I use when setting up my Live account?
Try these settings
Hotmail (when setting it up, intentionally misspell it so it doesnt redirect you to Windows live..)
-so.. put in [email protected]
Then manually enter these settings
POP = pop3.live.com
SMTP = smtp.live.com
GMAIL
POP = pop.gmail.com
SMTP = smtp.gmail.com
Yahoo
IMAP = imap.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP = smtp.mobile.mail.yahoo.com
If you do it myknyte's way, you will not get push email for your Windows Live account.
You need to set it up via the Windows Live app. Just launch the app. It's very self-explanatory. If you don't have the app (for whatever reason), it's available on the Marketplace.
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Thanks for responding all:
@ vudo: Can you elaborate on this beta Seven service that you speak of?
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Go to www dot seven dot com and sign up for their bera program. You then set up your email accounts thru their service and it will push the emails to you. Another benefit is that your email accounts are saved, so if you flash a new rom, you dont have to type in the settings again. Note though that once you have it installed, any new email account gets added through the Seven service.
For all those problems, the e-mail with Windows Live (no longer in the standby display off) Live come in here the better solution:
Get the inside scoop gmail account, which is indeed free. Thus Live Push Mail works with ActiveSync!
Everything else here: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
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Or take the Windows Live Package Update from here: https://www.htc-developers.de/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=4892
Regards