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Best Way To Handle Email

Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?

ackerchez said:
Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?
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is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?

walshieau said:
is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?
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Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.

ackerchez said:
Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.
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if the email server supports IMAP then use it....

Or to get full functionality, rent an exchange server mailbox from someone like 4smartphone (for about US$50 per annum) and get push email etc.

IMAP generates a lot more traffic than POP3. Just fetching a single
mailheader (send/receive when there is 1 new mail) yields over 10 kB more
traffic in IMAP. As my one subscription is limited to 10 MB/month, thus
using POP3 makes much more sense (speed could also be an argument,
altought even in GPRS it doesn't differ that much). Conseqently, I have
different entries for the same mailbox (currently: 3 IMAP, 1 POP3).... but
this also has to do with my question:
How do you guys work with different outgoing mailservers?
I have duplicated my mail account 4 times: once for each outgoing
mailserver I want to use. I then just make sure I have selected the
correct mailbox prior to starting a new message. But this hardly is an
elegant solution (I have to fetch mails for all of the accounts to keep
them up to date). As the different mailservers have no log in, I cannot
use them when not accessing via that particular provider. I have been
looking at some mechanism to hack the hosts file, but the tool
"pockethosts" isn't very well suited for this purpose (and haven't found
anything else).
Jörg

email
Hi, I'm currently using 3 email addresses on my phone plus the sync with my pc.(and home pc)
All I've come up with so far is to set all email pop/imap to only download headers, (and 2 of them only set for the last 3 days only),then I need to "select" manually what email I want to read and download them, the rest I leave for outlook to look after on my PC.
At the end of the day I finish up with a lot of "unread" emails on my phone, BUT once sync'd with pc they are all copied across anyway, just in my "outlook" folders, not my phone email accounts, if all that makes sense.
Any replies of forwards on my phone from any email includes my signature "email" that I prefer to use.
ie seperate work, personal etc
cheers
fadge

Server side filtering may be the answer for you.
http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Server+side+e-mail+filtering

gmail
I went to Gmail. Now it front-ends 4 different POP3 accounts, and with the spam protection it has it saves me from deleting a lot of crap. Only downside is that although I can read all my email on my Hermes, I can't really manage my Gmail account the way I want from the native mail client on the Hermes. No worries, I can always use the Mobile Gmail java app or go through IE to the mobile Gmail website. It's working for me...ymmv.

Exchange Server option not in Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_Rickys ROM?

Hi,
I want to connect to my work Exchange server. However, the option for Exchange is missing in the ROM. From the email setup, Pick your provider, I get Internet e-mail or Custom Domain.
There should be one for Exchange server there, but there isn't.
Can anyone help to get this option back?
Cheers

Exchange support
Hi,
Surely someone must have an answer for Exchange support?

Set it up via the ActiveSync app on your phone, not the email setup.

Cool,
Thanks. I'll try that. Just reflashing at the moment...

Works For Me
If you go into the activesync program, select menu, then select "Configure Server" you can setup your exchange server through there, works great for me, constantly synced.

exchange set up
scottys209 said:
If you go into the activesync program, select menu, then select "Configure Server" you can setup your exchange server through there, works great for me, constantly synced.
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Does this push your calendar to your dash as well as the email? I just purchased the G1, didn't even have it 24 hours. It certainly has some shortcomings but I was enjoying the calendar and email sync from google. Got back to my office and I was moved to the exchange server and of course no support on the android. I really like a lot of the features of my dash, but never had exchange before. I guess I am going back to it but wonder if my calendar and emails will be synced?

Yes they will. That's the whole point of a mail server like.. exchange. To sync your email !!

Yes, it does calendar too
I can confirm that the ActiveSync Exchange configuration works on the Kavana and Ricky ROMs. Not only emails, but also personal calendar items sync. Group calendar entries, however, do not sync. THIS IS NOT specific to Kavana/Ricky ROMs. It's just a feature that Microsoft left out of ActiveSync in Windows Mobile all the way up to v6.1. You should warn your Exchange support people that they should discourage group calendar use, as Microsoft incompletely implemented it. Instead, people should use the traditional invite/response system that puts calendar entries in the personal store when they are accepted.
I hear that there are third party agents that run on the Exchange server and, basically, copy group invites into all of the group members' personal stores so that ActiveSync syncs them, so if your office insists on using group calendars then they should look for one of those server add-ons.
- Phil

Great Alternative For Syncing Calendar And Email With An Exchange Server

At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.

great thanks

thank you so much
this is exactly what i needed

How did you get it working?
dmakk said:
At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.
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Can anyone give me some instruction on how to set this up. I have downloaded and installed the app and set up a pop e-mail account as stated on their forum, but still couldn't get it to work. There doesn't really seem to be anything by way of a help file on their site...
I have been after something like this as I don't think our work exchange server is configured to sync with mobile devices...
Cheers

Wonder if this might come in handy for current Mail2Web free users, unable to use Activesync from May 1st. OWA via desktop browser remains free.

thanks
this looks to have good potential .. will try now ! Thanks
One quick thing, would it "lock" my device as my exchange server does when I try to sync directly with it.

Glad you guys are finding Chronobis useful.
One of the biggest problems right now is that I'm having trouble getting this to work with Exchange 2007. In their infinite wisdom, the Exchange developers thought it was a good idea to just completely drop support for WEBDAV in 2007... I like the idea that it is all web services now, but it definitely isn't backwards compatible. I'm also concerned that access to the new web services might actually be controllable by the administrators, were WEBDAV had to be enabled for OWA to function. (Still looking into this one)
So sorry if you are on Exchange 2007, it might be a little while before Chronobis supports it.
Things seem to be working well on the Exchange 2003 front though. If you are having issues configuring it and have Exchange 2003, I suggest you take a look at (or post your questions to) the forums on the Chronobis site, that's where I look for them.
Thanks,
frejos - Chronobis Creator

hey guys, well when i go to my companys outlook access OWA site, it has a login that i need to enter on a certain page... https://owana.ford.com/exchange when i enter one username and password for that site, it then states that its been accepted and leads me to a popup that pops up where i enter a different set of username and password....so how would i set up this application?

application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

hotmail on my htc touch pro 2

hi,
i want to use my hotmail account in the mailbox on my touch pro 2.
but when i want to enter my hotmail account, the phone opens opera and goes to windows live website.
i don't want that.
i tried to enter hotnail, instead of hotmail.
then enter the details, and change it to hotMail. com.
that doesn't work.
entering it differently doesn't work either.
even when i sync with my outlook it doesn't copy my hotmail account.
i'm sick of it.... i would like to decide which accounts i can use on my phone.
so could anyone tell me how i can get my hotmail account on my htc touch pro 2.

You have to download windows live fot it to work. When you enter the hotmail adres it will indeed fo online to fetch the cab. After installing the cab your mail will show up in the mail tab of HTC sense.

You might already have windows live in your phone... check that first... But like sdemon said you need to log into windows live and then as you are doing your initial sign in it will give you the option of having the mail sync to your phone.

i don't get it....
i go to windows live, and i sign in with my hotmail account.
but nowhere is the option to download a .cab or to sync.
maybe it's just me, but i just can't seem to find it....
in the meantime i'll try if my windows live version is up to date, and if my rom is up to date....

You dont have to get windows live to set up an hotmail account.
go to your messages to set up a new e-mail accunt, chose for internet e-mail, fill in your e-mail address, in stead of .COM fill in .coN at the end like: [email protected]
incoming mail server: [email protected]:995
outgoing ( smtp server ) smtp.live.com:25
Check the outgoing server requires authentication and use the same name and password for sending e-mail
Thats got to work.

I popsted an answer to this question over at PPCGeeks a while back. Here's a link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1248517&postcount=9

supervinnie40 said:
i don't get it....
i go to windows live, and i sign in with my hotmail account.
but nowhere is the option to download a .cab or to sync.
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When I try to set-up my hotmail (either through TF3D or WM 6.5), it automatically takes me to Windows Live to set the account up. Once it is set up, it shows up in TF3D and WM.

jcterry said:
When I try to set-up my hotmail (either through TF3D or WM 6.5), it automatically takes me to Windows Live to set the account up. Once it is set up, it shows up in TF3D and WM.
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ditto... has been like that for years

wel... it took me a little while and quit a few fora's.....
first i updated the phone with the latest ROM from the htc website.
the phone has changed a lot, i've got sense now (no weird working TF3D).
the new software is great (excepts for some issues with the htc sms messages program).
next i tried all the same, but it didn't work.
then i found out how to do it (thanks to this topic).
you open windows live, and you log in with your hotmail account.
in the middle screen you see several options (like "log on messenger") and the last one says "sync account".
check that one, and the phone does almost everything.
it kinda works... except for 1 thing.... i can't enter a second hotmail account.
the option of filling in hotmail.coN instead of .coM doesn't work.
the email you have to fill in is the email the phone uses to register with the server.
if you change .coN back to .coM, the phone recognizes the fact that it's a hotmail account and redirects you straight to the windos live website.
other option people discuss in this topic don't seem to work.
at least not with the latest ROM.

No Hotmail, no Roadrunner, nothing works anymore
I followed all the instructions given here but still, I can't set up my Hotmail account. I logged in to my account but there was no option to "sync account" like supervinnie40 mentioned.
Moreover, in addition to not being able to set up a Hotmail account anymore (happened overnight) I've not been able to send any e-mails using RoadRunner from TWC, NY.
As far as the Hotmail account goes, it's very frustrating because it was the only one I was able to use. Why is it working one day and gone the day after?
Hard reset doesn't solve the problem either.
Expensive phone, some features not working. Frustrating.
HTC Touch Pro 2 (Sprint). I don't like it so much anymore.

freaknormel said:
You dont have to get windows live to set up an hotmail account.
go to your messages to set up a new e-mail accunt, chose for internet e-mail, fill in your e-mail address, in stead of .COM fill in .coN at the end like: [email protected]
incoming mail server: [email protected]:995
outgoing ( smtp server ) smtp.live.com:25
Check the outgoing server requires authentication and use the same name and password for sending e-mail
Thats got to work.
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This dude messed up...outgoing should be pop3.live.com:995
if you type this correctly you should be able to sync.....