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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.

I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.

euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.

wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/

You two rookies need to stop by:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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Hope the hint helps

Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!

...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...

hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6

I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.

in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.

crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.

Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40

crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?

Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!

mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

Upgrading to WM6. Please Help me

i have lokked everwhere for this so if someone can help with a link or an explaination please help.
I have downloaded the rom. How do i upgrade the rom. Step by step proess please.
Thank you very much in advance.

Step 1: Stop being lazy and do your research.
If you won't find anything, follow the instructions from my Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1187445

aarbiser,
Go the the Wiki page for the Trinity:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...me=HTC_Trinity
Read through this thoroughly before upgrading. The key is to understand how you flash back the ROM you currently have, in case of a problem. Back up everything on your Trinity & storage card before doing anything.
Remember, some of these ROMs don't have all the programs your stock ROM came with. For example, if ROM you flash to doesn't have MSN, which you need, then you'll have to install MSN cab separately, after the ROM flash. Any ROM you flash to is likely to have some issues & no Trinitys have been seen flying or making crop circles after the WM6 upgrade...so be careful with your expectations.
If you aren't sure how to upgrade with these ROMs, wait a litle longer (1-2 months), as HTC will eventually have an upgrade for WM6. The beauty of ROMs on this forum is that they contain many improvements, besides the OS upgrade aspect.

Here's a good step by step site. Its for the Hermes but the idea is almost the same.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php

I don't want to be harsh, nor flame anyone, but if you don't understand how to flash a ROM, you really ought to wait till official versions are released, because Beta WM6 (or any other WM version for that matter) ROM's will require some 'expert' registry or system fiddling at some point, which needs a fairly good basic understanding of the systems.

Stoopid noobie question:
cant find any instructions for the hard SPL. On the hermes instructions it only has 2 files but the trinity one has 6 files...
enter bootloader.exe
rapitool.exe
ROMupdateutility.exe
RUU_signed.nbh
RUUGetInfo.exe and
RUUResource.dll
.. i followed this on the hermes guide website but this step here is different to the trinity........
which to use first? do i use them all before installing the new WM6 ROM?
Do i need to install the new radio version (GSM 1.41.00.11)? Trying to make so if i need to get it fixed under warranty i can just flash back the Aussie 3 ROM and they will be none the wiser....
Can anyone help?
How about someone writing a step by step guide for those of us who are yet to do this..... everyone had a first time....
thanks
Scott

ok. i tried to run the ROM update utility but it wouldnt give me the option to change my SPL to 2.1 olipro..... how do i do this?
Cancelled this before i bricked my trinity......
thanks

ok. now i feel really stooopid.....
after doing the above i checked my bootloader and it is now: IPL-0.50 and SPL-1.07.0000
So, i now have hardspl on my trinity?
so to now install the new rom i just double click on the new rom file?
thanks

NeilM said:
I don't want to be harsh, nor flame anyone, but if you don't understand how to flash a ROM, you really ought to wait till official versions are released, because Beta WM6 (or any other WM version for that matter) ROM's will require some 'expert' registry or system fiddling at some point, which needs a fairly good basic understanding of the systems.
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Anyone created a WM6 ROM that's safe for us n00bs?

Akselp3600 said:
Anyone created a WM6 ROM that's safe for us n00bs?
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as I know, most of roms are safe. just flash it!

Most of the noobs CAN'T EVEN READ THE STICKY Threads at the top of the forum.
HERE IS A STEP BY STEP GUIDE WITH SCREENSHOTS for you noobs:
http://trinityguides.info

generic ROM before flashing new ROM?

Hi, I dont have my Softbanks TyN Hermes 200 base ROM. I reflashed ones to shaps WM6.0.
It is recomended to flash original ROM before reflashing to one of the latest ROMs.... is there a good generic I could use instead of my original ROM? or should I just flash the new ROM directly?
thanks!

Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.
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When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,

dr_tracker said:
When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,
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I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.

ai6908 said:
I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.
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Perfect... Just what I needed, thanks a lot...

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
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Excellent, figured it was something like that. Thanks for the tip!

Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni

tonidekohlanta said:
Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni
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I am not sure about softbank, but if you can install any hermes ROM, then you should be good to go with any official hermes ROM.
I never change the version and language in dutty's tool when i create my own ROM's!

Ok thanks, that's all I needed! I will take the cingular rom as it seems it was the one which gave best results on hard reset issue.
Toni

[REF]Hard-SPL supported ROMs & requests

Here is a list of downloadable and flashable ROMs (providing you have Diamond Hard-SPL).
You may also post links to a ROM that you wish to have signed here.
Currently uploading a couple of ROMs as we speak, will be linked here within the next hour and a half (crap upload)
DIAM140 Users: Please note that stock ROMs are currently not fully compatible with your device and therefore are not recommended for flashing unless you backup your current ROM first.
DIAM300 Users: We need someone to test these ROMs, so any guinea pigs please test but first backup current ROM.
Everyone else: have fun!
CURRENT ROMS:
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.34.831.1_52.24.25.08_0.93.25_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26.25.09_0.93.25.26_Ship
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.37.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_SPA_1.37.412.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.37.401.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_1.37.409.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.37.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_GER_1.93.407.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_ITA_1.93.408.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_SPA_1.93.412.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
RUU_Diamond_HTC_NOR_1.93.409.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
O2_DE_XDA_Diamond_1.37_RUU (REBUILT)
DIAM1.37.413.3SVE (REBUILT)
COOKED ROMS:
ALL BEPE ROMS ARE SIGNED AND ARE PART OF THE ELITE TEAM ROMs DIVISION, SEE INDIVIDUAL THREADS.
Elite 2.0
PDAVIET DIAMOND_1.37.08.01
tlr-diamond-1.08.06.20
tlr-diamond-2.08.07.01
DIAM.DAN.137.403.3-Cyphol
DiamProject_V1_5.2.19960_Radio_1.00.25.06_signed
Diamond_Surface_6.1.1.17_NLD_Blue_White
DIAM140 (EDGE Only Diamond):
indian_ship_rom
Also, a big thank you to Corian, our most prolific signing agent.

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Flashing WWE ROM did not succeed !!!
I managed to flast HardSPL 1.30 OliNex.
I have originally a Dutch ROM.
Now I try to flash the following RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26.25.09_0.93.25.26_Ship WWE ROM but it does not go further dan 0 %.
What can be the reason?
I tried a few times but everytime the same result

I had the same problem, Its because the rom must be signed with the certificate same as used for hardspl, If you use this rom witch they signed with the same srt it will work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411

benbekoster said:
I managed to flast HardSPL 1.30 OliNex.
I have originally a Dutch ROM.
Now I try to flash the following RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26.25.09_0.93.25.26_Ship WWE ROM but it does not go further dan 0 %.
What can be the reason?
I tried a few times but everytime the same result
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Do you not bother to read or are you just stupid?
download one of the two linked in the FIRST POST of THIS THREAD.
you'll find that one of those two is the one you're trying to flash.
more will be posted as they're made public, but so far, we've signed the only OSs available for Diamond.

@ diamond section: thanks for closing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397566
Anyway, Ive got a multi-language Diamond, so I dont need to look spanish rom again thanks

Strange, I managed to install this ROM without Hard-SPL. I did try to install hard-spl, screen went black like it's supposed to, but then I didn't know what to do and did a soft reset.
Then I ran the Europe ROM update downloaded from first-post in this thread. It installed beautifully, I got congratulated, and my phone is a lot faster (thanks for that!)
My boot screen doesn't say Olinex, so apparently hardspl isn't installed.
How is this possible? And does it have any consequences for my phone?

Obviously you have already done hard-spl but you don't know that...
In boot screen it doesn't say Olinex anywhere, but you will see that if you put your device in bootloader mode.

If badflower is the one i think he is, then he doesn't have the Olinex bootloader screen!! He has the original bootloader.

Have sign requests for 1.37.707.1 and 1.37.405.1 been made yet?

Waiting for 1.37 signed ? when ????

Soon... it's up to Olipro and cmonex. Be patient.

Yzord said:
If badflower is the one i think he is, then he doesn't have the Olinex bootloader screen!! He has the original bootloader.
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then i guess
1) he's a moron for not reading the instructions for hardspl installation
2) he just flashed an original, completely unmodified HTC rom

itzik-g said:
Waiting for 1.37 signed ? when ????
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ask Olipro in a PM.

cmonex said:
ask Olipro in a PM.
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Just out of interest, who of the "Elite Team" can sign ROMs?

This is what i mean....people are waiting a full day now for a signed rom. This aint working. Just put the developers SPL on your device.

hebrew
any hebrew rom

is there a way to go back to the original SPL?

zaki67 said:
is there a way to go back to the original SPL?
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Yeah in a few days or so there will be a rollback SPL

stock SPLs - only for warranty reasons
here's the stock SPLs... 1.23, 1.34, 1.37, 1.93.
EDIT: I uploaded 1.35 later because people couldn't understand there was no real difference between 1.34 and 1.35. so it is now in the second attachment in this post.
new: also uploaded 1.93 now.
if you have unsigned hardspl, you'll need to use the SSPL package (i.e. the same package that is posted in HardSPL thread to flash the hardspl), just replace the NBH file with one of these stock SPLs.
if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that).
also,
STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!
1. download the stock spl package from this post (pick one of the attachments) in this thread.
2. also download the RUU-SSPL-withoutNBH.zip from the attachments in this post.
3. pick the SPL you want to reflash to (ONLY FOR WARRANTY REASONS), it's a .NBH file, put the NBH in the extracted RUU-SSPL-withoutNBH package.
4. run the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to black screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.
+5. to verify, volume down + reset, see version number on tricolour screen.
that's it.

The Way To Make My Phone Flashable Again

To Day I Hardspl And Flash New Rom For Touch Pro2 (Modify) That I Found In This Forum And I Notice After I Flash That Rom Build For Tilt2 (The Phone Signal Not Stable A Problem With Ram And Weird Problem About Hardware Keyboard ).
After I Use It And I Decide To Change To Another Modify Rom. I Found That I Can't Flash Rom. And Spl Change To New (Not Olinex).
I Try To Flash Olinex Again And Notworking (Device Not Responding Error In Flash Process)
I Try To Flash Stock Spl. And That No Luck It's Same Problem
I Worry About My Phone Are Not Able To Flash Again (I Have Bricked Nokia E90 And Feel Sad Before) And I Prepare To Sent To Htc Service But I Found The Way To Flash By Accident
To Make Phone Flash Able
1. I Have Flash New Windows Mobile For Touch Pro2 (S2) From Htc Website That Have The Same Spl. After That I Feel Happy That I Can Flash Official Rom And Hardreset After That.
2. I Downgrade By Flash Official Windows Mobile From Htc Spl 0.87 And Hardreset After That
3. I Can Flash Olinex Spl And Happy To Flash ModifyRom Again.
Sorry For My Bad English. And Anyone Who Have Easier way To Solve This Problem Please Guide
Hope This Information Useful To Anotheruser
Thanks For Information In Xda-Dev And Chef To Cook New Useful Rom For Rhodium
My Device Is Rhodium Hongkong
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ThaiwinCe ,Igo8,And Thai Keyboard Work Fine Again
Thankyou

Welcome to forums
I´m not sure if understood your problem, hope I do.
I would suggest to re flash again following instructions from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Normally a cooked ROM should work even better/faster than any original ROM.
Hope it helped and good luck,
And don´t forget to vote!

Does the new hardspl include a overwrite protection freature? meaning that a new hardspl can't overwrite it?