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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.

I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.

euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.

wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/

You two rookies need to stop by:
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Hope the hint helps

Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!

...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...

hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6

I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.

in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.

crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.

Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40

crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?

Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!

mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

O2 XDA Diamond official ROM (German)

Here you are:
http://rapidshare.com/files/127970437/O2_XDA_Diamond_1.37_RUU.rar.html

perfect - thanks a lot for your support.
If you want to make it like the Stock XDA Diamond, first you have to flash spl 1.37 back.
regards
Anja31

Thx!
Yeah, thanks man!

you are my hero (4 2day)!!!

Just wondering, is there a "Homezone" app in the Rom...or is there maybe any "Häuschen" in the TouchFlo3d? If there is a cab file it would be really great if you could post it here.
Thanks man!

Thanks, it is nice to have an backup of the Orginal Rom.
Is it possible that you load on Mega?, with Rapid I have problems it said no DL Slot free.
Ghostrider

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5HWC22H

I recommend you use mediafire. Rapidshare is only 50Kb/s for non-premium users...

Brevi said:
Just wondering, is there a "Homezone" app in the Rom...or is there maybe any "Häuschen" in the TouchFlo3d? If there is a cab file it would be really great if you could post it here.
Thanks man!
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Yes there is a häuschen alongside the datum and above the uhr. A .cab is difficult since nobody investigated from where the information comes. maybe a system service like on previous models, maybe it's inside manila ...

thanks a lot.
Finally I can try some other roms without losing my guarantee.
A small guide or a link how to undo the HardSPL thing would be nice.
Greetings
iggboert

thanks a lot.
hier ist the guide to downgrade.
if you have unsigned hardspl, you'll need to use the SSPL package (i.e. the same package that is posted in HardSPL thread to flash the hardspl), just replace the NBH file with one of these stock SPLs.
if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that).
also,
STEP BY STEP HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK SPL - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!
1. download the stock spl package from post #39 in this thread.
2. download the package from post #2 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 thread.
3. pick the SPL you want to reflash to (ONLY FOR WARRANTY REASONS), it's a .NBH file, replace the original .NBH in the package from post #2 with this SPL NBH.
4. run the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to black screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.
+5. to verify, volume down + reset, see version number on tricolour screen.

sushilange said:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D5HWC22H
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Thanks a lot

thx for the guide

is there a way to get the blue tf3d theme without reflashing my diamond? a solution like just replacing of the manlia.exe or something?
or can anyone upload me a copy of the manila.exe from the O²-Rom so i can try it myself?
regards
Fabian

Hallo!
I bought a 02 XDA diamond. But it is in German (windows 6.1). I would like to change the language from German to English. Does anyone can help me how to do this.
I have no idea what is ROM and so on. I am completely new to this process. Shall I have step by step instructions please?
Thank you in advance!
Greetings!
Sony

whats the deal-will we be getting a WWE O2 ROM anytime soon? I love the blue tf3d
anyone has any luck with a separate cab created for this ?

can anyone sign this for me to use?

anyone ????

First of all I want to thank the guys posting the "reflash" Instructions again and again, so I finally found them too. Since Im trying out a lot with my Diamond (Not my first WM device, but first with cooked rom) I appreciate it, that it is possible to get back for warranty reasons.
There is just one little thing that I am not sure about yet:
I know:
- instal unsigned Had SPL
- Flash stock Rom (O2 XDA DIAMOND in my case)
- Flash stock SPL (I found he package in the Post mentioned)
I dont know:
- wich of the three versions in that spl-package is the one i need???
I hope so can tell me even though i hopefully never have to try this procedure!
Thanks so far

Hi and thanks for your great work.
My request would be for a stock O2 WWE ROM 1.93 if this is possible?

OK, Noob education thread!!

OK, so I’m going to be getting a UK Orange branded Touch Diamond this week. My aim is to remove the Orange branding in the software and revert it to standard HTC black and white theme. As it would be out of the box if I bought one direct from HTC. I’ve no interest in any tweaks/improvements to the standard ROM (different radio ROMs etc) at the moment, maybe once I’ve managed it once successfully I’ll worry about that! I’ve spent a day or so reading these forums and though it seems complicated to a beginner I think I have it all figured out now! I would appreciate however if someone experienced could cast an eye over what I’m about to do and let me know if I’ve made any errors that could result in me ruining an expensive piece of kit!
My understanding is that there are basically 3 stages to flashing a new ROM onto a Diamond, backing up, loading hardSPL and loading the desired ROM. So my plan is to do the following:
1. Back up all operator settings (WAP, MMS, GPRS etc) or use something like PIM Backup (though I won’t have any data on my Diamond as it will be brand new!)
2. So, first I download the signed version of hardSPL (1.40), from here (http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2 ). My understanding is that by using the signed version I’ll reduce to a minimum any chance of buggering up my Diamond and basically it will stop me from doing anything stupid!!
3. Then follow the instructions on that same page, which will install hardSPL.
4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
5. Follow the instructions detailed here to install the ROM (http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=4). As I understand it, when I unzip the ROM that I have downloaded, it includes the 6 files listed on that page, including the ROM update utility.
As I understand it following the instructions on that final page will leave me with a Diamond that is not in any way Orange branded and has the latest official HTC released ROM on it (black and white themed menus etc etc).
So, is everything that I’ve written correct, and if I follow these instructions will I avoid ruining my phone? If I’ve missed anything to check before I start or that I need to do please point me to the thread that explains it so that I can look over it.
Hopefully over time this thread can be a one stop shop for absolute noobs who are unsure of how exactly to go about flashing their device, and in what order to do things!!
Thanks
JP

I'm still a noob, too, but two things you should make sure:
- Have your battery on the phone fully charged
- Disable standby on battery and on AC power in the phone and on your main PC so they don't shut down during the flash process
I just flashed my Diamond successfully today, it's actually quite easy if you get the right steps - and thosee above look just like what I did.
Good luck!
W0nk0

4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
Really, that's the first and not recommended.
1.93 is the last, but not very obvious where it is released from.
1.37 is what I know the last official release.

Orange UK ROM is 1.37...
When flashing one for a friend I exprienced issues trying to flash HardSPL with 2 errors but managed it in the end with Olipro HardSPL 1.3 the but Diamond project team 2 rom on, the flashed radio rom back to 05.

Riel said:
4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
Really, that's the first and not recommended.
1.93 is the last, but not very obvious where it is released from.
1.37 is what I know the last official release.
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1.93 is supposed to be the last official stock ROM from HTC (yes, it's English - WWE). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
How do you tell if it really is stock and uncooked? No idea, but it works very well indeed and is very responsive.
Oh, and the dev hard spl works to flash 1.93; some others I tried didn't. YMMV

Windoze9t8 said:
Orange UK ROM is 1.37...
When flashing one for a friend I exprienced issues trying to flash HardSPL with 2 errors but managed it in the end with Olipro HardSPL 1.3 the but Diamond project team 2 rom on, the flashed radio rom back to 05.
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Does that mean that the Orange branded ROM is 1.37? Which one should I be using to remove the Orange branding and revert to the standard HTC interface?

tutorial/description/info/guide

Hi everyone!
Here's the deal! I'm no noob to flashing, cooking and HardSPL as I'm positive there are plenty of users who are swimming in the same pool.
Moving from another device's forum (Trinity) to the Diamond forum is quite a shock. So many posts, so many threads.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
For instance:
I'm running an old version of Radio and Official Diamond ROM (Stock), 1.00.25.03 Radio and 1.37.479.3 WWE ROM.
Bootloader version is:
Code:
DIAM100 64M
SPL-1.37.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
PSOC-Diam STAGE_PVT v0x30
I'd like to first upgrade to another Official ROM, like RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.
No info on following:
- changing an original to another original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- changing a supposed EU original to an Asia original ROM: is there need for HardSPL?
- if there is need for it when upgradin ROM, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
- if there is need for it when upgradin Radio, which one to choose based on bootloader info?
etc.
I can live with my new device with stock ROM, I can tweak it, no problem.
But it is my strong belief that a detailed tutorial/description/info/guide thread could get a nice sticky.
Something that would make new users like:
"Oh, I just bought a Diamond, I read this sticky, compared my bootloader info with the ones stated in the thread, checked my ROM and Radio, checked my new ROM and Radio which I want to flash, so I need this/I don't need any HardSPL and it worked"
Yes, call it spoon-feeding, but while looking at the Forums and reading and searching, there's so much clutter some can't even find the Search button!
My two cents!

I totally agree !!! We are needing that "tutorial for dummies"

Im new to the Diamond forum too, had a tytn for ages though.
I found everything i needed to know on the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond

Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help

geistteufel said:
Here my tuto (french version, could use a translator like google to push it in english) : http://celogeek.free.fr/2008/08/htc-diamond-rom-cuisinee-diamond-project-32/
Try it Hope can help
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Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?

tnyynt said:
Yes, but still, is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another Official HTC ROM? And is there any need for HardSPL when flashing to another issuer of the Official HTC ROM (from EU to Asia HK)?
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You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps

andy2111 said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM. If you want to be really sure then simply go to the HTC site (I used HTC Europe), register as a user, input your phone's serial number and it should tell you that you can download the 1.93 ROM. This way you can do a 100% official upgrade before deciding if you want to use a cooked ROM.
http://www.htc.com/member/login.aspx
Hope this helps
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I know that, remember, I'm not a n00b.
First, I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account.
Second, this is what I am talking about: You said:
You don't need HardSPL to flash an official ROM.
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Other peoples opinion:
omaga said:
You need hardspl on every one, and all are offcial roms as they were downloaded
only the rom you can download from your own HTC e-club site dont need hardspl.
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Contradictory information?
Now since I don't have any updates in my own e-Club, there's the HardSPL option with other (even Official) ROMs.
Question is: which one? (1.23, 1.24, 1.34, Developer edition, Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex, HardSPL_OliNex138_Signed or RUU_Signed_1_93OliNex_HSPL_UnsignedEdition).
This is crazy!

Maybe that's the difference then - perhaps ROM downloads via the e-club are treated differently, although I can't think how.
Seems that Cmonex and Olipro are the SPL experts here (I'm sure you've already seen this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402) so maybe they're the best ones to help.
If it helps I updated to HardSLP 1.4 and ran quite happily on my stock ROM before upgrading to Dutty's ROM. I guess it's down to how adventurous/risky you want to be.
Good luck.

1. look at the next posts, i blew it on this answer..
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
here, an answer from THE expert:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2484533&postcount=143
2. if i convinced you to hardspl then go to the unsigned version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950.
i am using it from the beginning (2 month at least) and i flashed my diamond 4 times without any problem at all.
3.
There are so many HardSPLs. OK, no problem! But what I DO miss is a tutorial thread with nice and clear descriptions stating for instance "You will need this HardSPL for this ROM", ""You will need this HardSPL for Official ROM", "You don't need any HardSPL for Official ROM", etc.
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already there, in almost each ROM thread.
i think all cooks start their thread with the warning (hardspl first!) and a link to the recommended hardspl.
bepe is "all signed" so he never mention which hardspl.
others, for example:
dutty's choice of hardspl: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
[WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V5.0 - CE OS 5.2.20273 (BUILD 20273 AKU 1.3.3)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2312249&postcount=2 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2412201&postcount=1first
DIAMOND PROJECT ROM Release V3.2 [WWE/GER/ITA/FRE/RUS/ESN]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621
i wonder what happened to you.... learn from post #3!! you are a ROM cook...you are the "uber" user! we should ask you questions

I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.

vrstu said:
I know you say if you flash an official (uncooked) ROM to your handset then you don't need SPL however I have a Vodafone branded Diamond which won't allow you to flash a non Vodafone branded ROM so I am ssuming that you still need to use SPL to go to an unbranded ROM even if it is generic HTC.
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i think you are right. never thought at this scenario.....
usually i don't buy my pda branded. no plan, no 3 years, free as a bird!
thanks for bringing it to my attention.

yeah, hard-spl to allow you to flash ROMs from other regions..
technically you shouldn't need it to 'protect' your device since its an official ROM upgrade, but then again you're trying to flash an upgrade that's not from your region so not too sure how that affects your warranty.. i would stick with hard-spl no matter what.
Although you may experience better results with certain ROMs using a certain SPL (this hasn't been clearly shown on the diamond to my knowledge) seems like the SPL is more tied to your hardware (why certain people get screen flicker and fuzzy fonts after flashing.. wrong SPL). so it stands to reason if your hardware doesn't change, you *shouldn't* have to change your SPL just cause you're flashing a new ROM

KukurikU said:
1. you don't need hardspl when you want to flash an official ROM.
if you should need one then HTC should release it with the ROM. no such thing!
HTC release official ROM "like it is" for all ppl even for the ones that never heard of hardspl. simple logic.
if you buy it branded look at the next two posts!
i like my diamond with hardspl and unlocked (using the developers, unsigned hardspl). i advice you to do the same. this covers all, signed, unsigned and official ROMs.
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I have experince now with 3 HTC devices: 1. i had Trinity with wwe rom when i bought it-> try to put it to my language (Finnish ROM) didnt work, used hardspl-> it worked
2. Polaris with wwe 6.0 rom, tried to update to the latest wm6.0 rom which was a rom from Singapore, no succes-> put hardspl in device->it worked
3. In my Diamond i put hardspl right away(after 2 hour use), so that one i didnt test at all, based on my previous experience I didnt even try to flash the official 1.93 rom witout hardspl
So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience

[/QUOTE]So at least my concution is that u must have hardspl even when you want to flash a official rom from another region. Dont offcourse no if that is a fact, just what i have experience[/QUOTE]
From my experience from the diamond, you have to flash hardspl onto your handset before you can use 'other region' roms even when it is 'official'.
I have a HK WWE handset and tried to flash my rom with the first upgrade rom from SEA, and it wouldnt flash. it would say my handset is not from the correct region.
i flashed a hard spl afterwards and it worked.

So from pak1234 experience we can make some conclusion? its the same experience I got with Polaris and Trinity

Noob Agony
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.

bluntyeyedfool said:
Hi,
As a total recent Noob (TRN), I spent about 2 working days trying to find out where to start. In particular, the definition of HardSPL, ROM and Radio.
It was very difficult to ramp up to speed. you guys rock, seriously, but your community can thrive if you lower the gate a bit. Think about all the time you'll save in the long run by giving noobs somewhere to start. 'There are no stupid questions, only arrogant responses'. -- I read that somewhere here.
For anyone who enjoys noob-razing, come visit me and I'll stick you in with my horses. Get some payback.
A Where-To-Start sticky would help enormously.
peace.
PS - Eventually I found www.modmydiamond.info and started reading. I nearly cried when my Swiss language-locked Diamond started talking in good auld English.
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congrats on yr first successfull step (english language on yr swiss locked diamond)! perseverance and good reading skills pay back.
welcome to our forum!
from yr post i can understand that you started as an intelligent user/member of this forum (as opposed to noob) by using this forum accordingly with it's rules.
there are stupid questions. if one of the next is called by somebody "arrogant response" then he'll have to adjust or just grow elephant skin (i can name a few that already did):
1. "search, this was already posted". (most used)
2. "read the manual." (almost an insult)
3. "read wiki." (friendly, useful advice)
4. "most of the polls are useless." (no comment necessary)
5. "comparisons between any other ppc and diamond does not belong here, this a diamond only forum." (sadly not enough enforced)
a noob is not somebody with a low count of posts. a noob is somebody with a noobish attitude (total disregard of the forum's rules and it's members, wanting everything now, ready, chewed and put in his mouth).
respect the forum and it's members and you'll get respect and help beyond yr wildest dreams.
yr PS only confirm all from the above.
i prefer not to comment yr horses-payback threat

noob here
Hello all, noob here, just got my diamond via vodafone NL.
The device is sim locked contrary to what the agreement with was.
The current rom running on it makes this device incredibly slow, my brother has an p3300 which works way faster than my diamond (but does not look so nice).
This made me start looking for a solution. I've been reading this site for three full days and I'm still very confused, everything and it's contrary is written here, how is one supposed to draw a conclusion?
With that said I would like to see a well written tutorial in plain english and that does not assume the reader is a techie.
It should explain:
- How to backup the original ROM and hardSPL
- How to flash a new rom and avoid issues with screen flickering and so on
- How to restore the original ROM and hardSPL in case the device needs to be send back for repair
- Clarify what to do with radio roms
- How to unlock a device to be used with any sim card (ok this already exists, i've seen the sticky)
Thanks

One more question to be added
- Why would you need a CID and security unlocker?
I thought it was just another name for sim card lock but apparently not.

tnyynt said:
I have no updates in my registered Diamond e-Club account
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You should go to Support section of their site, that is where they post ROM updates apparently. e-Club has only ringtones.

ROM Update needed?

I got my phone from Vodafone yesterday and came with the following;
ROM Version: 1.37.161.2 WWE
ROM Date 06/26/08
Radio Version 1.00.25.03
Protocol Version: 52.26a.25.09U
Was thinking about flashing to TLR 3.08.07.16
Would this be an improvement over the current, sluggish ROM?
Thanks.

Original ROMs arefull of crap and contain old software. Try installing a cooked ROM, you will find them MUCH faster and more stable than manufacturers ROMs.
I use Duttys 3.4. MAKE SURE YOU CID UNLOCK FIRST SO PLEASE DONT RUSH INTO THIS.

Anthony2oo5 said:
Original ROMs arefull of crap and contain old software. Try installing a cooked ROM, you will find them MUCH faster and more stable than manufacturers ROMs.
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I thought this would be the case, but always prefer to check. It's like a new PC, I always format and start again with a fresh, non-OEM install.
Anthony2oo5 said:
I use Duttys 3.4. MAKE SURE YOU CID UNLOCK FIRST SO PLEASE DONT RUSH INTO THIS.
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This is where I show I'm a beginner. What's CID?
I was going to follow this guide.

CID is put there by the manufactorer to stop you flashing to ROMs not made by them. I just done a quick lookup and CID unlock is not required as long as you flash your SPL.
My advice to you IF you decide to use a cooked ROM:
1. Read THIS before you do anything so you understand what your doing.
2. Flash your SPL to a Hard SPL. I think there are 2 on here for the diamond. I use THIS one.
3. Flash your ROM to a ROM of your choice. I use Duttys 3.4 because its a good ROM and he brings an update almost every 1 - 2 weeks, so your always using the latest software and tweaks. But feel free to choose your own.
Hope I helped.

Thanks for the pointers.
After reading through, I gave it a go...
...Hmm, looks like I may have to try Duttys, as TLR has failed on me twice now with 'ERROR [262] : UPDATE ERROR'
Anyone any idea what's causing this?

use the search button
this error is common....you will find what you need

Have a look HERE.
Is your phone connected via Activesync? XP or Vista?

Thanks for the responses everyone!
It ended up I was using a signed SPL rather than an unsigned SPL and therefore wouldn't let it install.
Time to rummage around the forums and look from some good apps!
Thanks again!

Glad you got it working