Hello all,
great efford!!!!!
I have QTEK 9090 WM2K3SE or should I say Blue Angel.
ROM version 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10/05
Radio version: 1.15.00
Protocol version 1337.45
ExtROM version 1.40.148 WWE
When you install a new program it is automatically installed on
My Device\Program Files\New program (This is RAM I think.).
You do not have any option of selecting in which folder to install the program
in order to select the Storage Card.
???Is there any way to force new programs to be installed on SD???
Is there another open Thread that contains this information?
Thank you!
If you are installing from the desktop, ActiveSync asks "install program in default location?". Click 'no' and you will be able to choose to install to SD.
If you are installing directly from a cab you will need CabInstl to change the destination.
Thanks
Thank you, I will try both!
Explicit path
Thank you, both of the suggestions worked fine!
But, I have some further questions.
CabInstl allows to specify an exact installation path, e.g. SD\MyPrograms\New Application.
With ActiveSync 3.7 you can select SD but not any subfolders of SD like with CabInstal.
Does the newer version of ActiveSync support an exact path installation definition and not just drive?
Blue Angel has 128 Mb RAM. Under Settings\Memory\Main you can see that.
Settings\Memory\Storage Card\Storage Card is the SD memory card that I have attached.
What is the Settings\Memory\Storage Card\STORAGE which is 40 Mb?
If you want to install any application from ActiveSync it gets also installed on the PC Add/Removes programs and after Sync with PDA you have to Remove it from the PC. Is there any way to avoid the PC permanent installation?
OK:
1) No. ActiveSync only lets you choose the general location. Note that what CabInstl does may cause some programs not to work as PPC programs often expect to be in a specific directory.
2) Main memory is divided in to two parts:
Program - your actual RAM just like on PC which programs use to run.
Storage - on WM 2003 devices (like yours) this is also RAM but it is treated like hard drive. WM 2003 has a slider that lets you repartition the RAM between storage and program. On WM5 device this is internal flash.
3) No. This is just something installers do, they keep a part of themselves on the PC. Unless you have extremely little space on you hard drive, I recommend not removing the apps. It will make them easier to reinstall should you have to preform hard reset.
Thanks again Levenum for the usefull feedback.
Thanks again Levenum for the usefull feedback.
1) I just had this experience yesterday with GSPocketMagic1_32_19
during a restart its .exe file cannot be found. Good to know that it is a more general problem in order to avoid installation on subdirectories.
2) The manual is not describing this very clear and surprisingly if you change the allocation size with the bar in screen main memory the size in storage screen does not change, or if you copy something to Storage again the size of the Memory\Main\Storage -InUse does not change were the Memory\Storage Card\Storage changes, so it was difficult to figure it out. It is like you have 128 RAM + 40 Storage RAM.
There is one other thing I forgot to mention regrading RAM:
No matter what you do with the slide, if the system thinks it needs more running memory or more storage it will repartition by it self. Usually it will divide the free ram 50/50 between programs and storage.
This is why you may copy something to main memory and not see a difference in available storage. You should always look at 'used' values.
Also there is a reg key you can create:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Shell\NeverDorkMemory
Simply creating this key will prevent the system from automatically repartitioning your RAM.
Hello all,
I've written a watchdog that allows to catch a moment when the storage card is corrupted and softreset before the driver flushes FAT and root folder.
More details are here:
http://www.nixie.narod.ru/sdsentry/index-en.htm
I hope this will help you.
Any feedback is welcome.
I'm online with MSN [email protected] (also it is my email)
BTW, it doesn't matter what brand and size of the storage card is.
I have Kingston 1GB, and _it happens.
Thankyou for your work, Nikolay. It is apreciated.
I have had the software installed for a couple of days, and all is well.
Same here Nickolay, I have already posted a reply to your post at Spb Club forum.
I have your piece of code installed for few days and haven't seen the red icon, yet. Hope never will. Tnx .... as your code can save some nerves
I have tried your program but it keeps throwing up a corruption warning saying that there is an empty directory - Program Files on the storage card (which there is - I guess it is empty because I have no apps installed on the card)
Any suggestions?
garymansell said:
Any suggestions?
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Create a file in that folder...
Does anyone know the workaround with the WM5torage program?.....everytime i launch this app the SD-Sentry red icon appears saying that there is a corruption but when i check the storage card its fine.......thanks in advance
WM5torage disables the storage card for the orbit as long as it is active. During that time it is only accessible by the PC. Other programs like Tomtom do not work, because they can't find their data on the card. So does SDsentry.
Dear programmer,
your program seems to be a fine PlugIn for the XDA-Error with destroyed directorys oon the SD-Card.
Unfortunately your program is working in english devices only as it seems.
In german devices where the storage card is named "Speicherkarte" from the german WM5 your program will creating a new folder named "storage card" where it puts its check-files SdSentry.txt into each existing directory. No SdSentry.txt-file in any Dirs on the storage card.
In the dialogwindow of SdSentry the storage card is names "Speicherkarte".
The real storage card is not recogniced and protected in this way, as I assume.
Or did I something wrong?
Will you program a german version of SdSentry too?
I would be very glad about.
because of the described problem, I wrote a mail to the programer of SdSentry.
A solution was coming back immediately, how to install SdSentry im devices with other WM5-languages than english.
The program has a little bug to find the real storage card and creates instead a directory named "storage card" in the root of the device, that contains two directorys named "My Documents" and "Programme". In each of this three folders SdSentry creates a txt-file "SdSentry.txt" for verifiing the directury-structure for accessibility later.
For getting SdSentry working on german devices (analog other languages), copy following files:
\\storage card\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte(or however the name of your real storage card is)\SdSentry.txt
\\storage card\My Documents\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte\My Documents\SdSentry.txt
\\storage card\Programme\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte\Programme\SdSentry.txt
After copying the three files, you can delete the folder \\storage card with its subdirs "My Documents" and "Programme"
Since I've did this modifications, SdSentry seems to work well on my german-XDA Orbit.
Hoping it avoids more crashs of my SD-Card.
What a fun sitting in the car and loosing Navi, adresses and all tasks for today out of the HTC. May driving back to office and reinstalling the device.
I won't count how much time cause of this this worthless phone I had loosen last weeks.
Hi,
Could anybody provide help for me? My P3300 doesn't seem to be able to install any programs / games anymore?!? What to do, has anybody had the same experience?
Once I install a program from my desktop PC to the P3300 or when I copy the CAB-file straight to the P3300, I get the standard installation screen: "choose a location.....Device, Storage Card or Bluetooth...blablabla"
But when I tap either one, let's say Storage Card, the thing is loading and a 2 seconds later I get the same screen, but with the message: "pocketxpdf.sf.net pocketxpdf cannot be installed. To try installing again to a different location, choose a location: Device, Storagecard or Bluetooth."
How is this possible all of a sudden? Never had problems...there is enough storage space, I've never updated the ROM, just a soft-reset doesn't work either. I don't want to do a hard-reset yet until I know a way to export my Contacts so I don't have to bring them in manually again after a possible hard-reset. (since i cannot install the program EasyHelper anymore...)
Anyone have any clue, what could be wrong?
My Specs:
HTC P3300 UK
Original ROM version
WM5
Installed programs:
Windows Vista Skin
Battery Status
Pocket Mechanic
SBSH Clock
Resco Explorer
PSshutXP
Pocket Painter
Wisbar Advantage 2
TomTom WE full
Games:
Battleship
Chess
Worms
Many thanks if you could help me out!
Greetz
Pallemans
Had you checked the Artemis Wiki pages you could have found a possible answer. There has been an official patch released by HTC for SD cards getting corrupted. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Problems
FIXED!
Sorry mate, but my problem had nothing to do with SD-Card bugs.
I already fixed my problem, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339063
But thanks for your reply.
Greetz
Hi All,
Anyone know how to install Tomtom Navigator on Storage card?
Similar question applies to other CABs I have I would like to know for those which do not offer choice of destination installation, how to install either alter tha cab to give the choice or other solution?
Please can you help?
I asked similar question earlier but only answer I had was to use WINCE CAB Manager which I don't know how to change...
Thanks
Whenever I install Navigator it gives me the choice of storage card or device. Do you not get those choices? And it still installs a lot of files to the device even though I chose storage card, I think it's unavoidable.
Can you send me a link of TomTom Navigation software so I would discover out and tell you ?
The way I did it was to install TomTom onto the devices internal memory as normal then move the program files directory etc over. Point the shortcuts into the correct exe location and it all works perfectly fine. Even after flashing the device several times since I'm as yet to reinstall it as I don't need to!
What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
zooster said:
What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
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I've had this happen before, and if I remember correctly, it was a corrupt Map File. I restored an earlier copy of my maps to the SD Card, and all was good again.
Try hiding your maps and see if TomTom will run. It should ask you to use a Voucher. If it does, then it's the map problem and TomTom is fine.
Nope, I've tried this tip but no success... It's really odd...
Hi Zooster. Sorry to hear about the headache you currently have.
I have had similar problems in the past month, the first time really freaked me out.
In my case, I noticed that some of the files on my sd card know longer showed up, and later discovered that others had indeed become corrupted.
I solved it (and continue to do so when it happens) by formatting my sd card and copying back onto it a copy I have of all the Tomtom files. Infact, once you get it working again, I suggest you regularly make a copy of whatever is on your sd card in case it happens again. For me, it seems to be ROM specific, i.e. only happens when I flash some of the new ROMs. Sometimes the sd card suddenly stops showing up in file explorer, sometimes I just need to remove tomtom and then reinstall it.
The problem for you now may be getting the original Tomtom files, I guess it depends where you got them from.
When I flash some ROMS, this problem occurs. I have to avoid ROMs that do that and choose another.
I hope you manage to sort it out. I know what's it like when these things suddenly go wrong for no reason! Best of luck.
Mattster.
Ok, I'll try to restore original files... I'll let you know.
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
Hmmm...
Just had this problem myself, but might have fixed it on my Artemis
Originally I copied the TomTom Navigator.EXE to \windows\start menu\programs and it worked
However; it stopped working with the "not enough memory error" - so I started disabling applications, uninstalling them etc.
Still no joy
Just out of interest tried the TomTom Navigator.EXE within the TomTom folder on my SD card - and it worked...
I've deleted the .exe from "my device" and created a shortcut to my SD Card and now it looks like it is working again
Going to keep testing now - but perhaps worth a shot
Mattster_spv said:
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
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For tomtom, TTN is the installation file, the others can be all deleted.
After installation, we only need the following 3 folders:
1. maps
2. voices
3. zip
All of them need stored in sd card root path.
If you need the satellite view, then you need one more folder in your sd card root, which is "raster"
The file "ttnavigator.bif" is auto generated by tomtom everytime you use it, you will always find it is still there even you have delete it sometime before, just leave it. Also "ttnavigator.bif" is a log file for tomtom, so it is useful, dont delete this file.
Mattster_spv said:
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
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In the 2577 (not 2257) map are the following files:
AutoRun.exe
Autorun.exe-run
TTN.cab
TTN2003.cab
So you just moved them to the root
The actual files for running TT are automatically stored on the device, not on the storage card
Arjan
adejager1 said:
The actual files for running TT are automatically stored on the device, not on the storage card
Arjan
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Thanks Arjan. Thanks for the reply.
What I'm curious to know is, after a new ROM flash (i.e. before TT has been installed on their clean device) what TT files do they have on the SD card.
Mattster_spv said:
Thanks Arjan. Thanks for the reply.
What I'm curious to know is, after a new ROM flash (i.e. before TT has been installed on their clean device) what TT files do they have on the SD card.
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Sorry, can't answer that. Flashed my rom quite a few times but never bothered to clean up my storage card. Probably still got Tom Tom 6 and or WM5 stuff on there
i had the issue with artemis and tomtom Navigator v7.910.9185. It was on sd. Then i deleted voice and raster folder and suddenly the problem solved!
Then i copied voice folder back to sd with 3 voices (before i had about 25) and now it works like charm.
I have had this same 'memory' problem on a few devices,
it has always been sorted by an SD card format and a card restore from my PC.
as to Tomtom after a re-flash ... I have never had any issues with it at all,
I just restore a full backup with SPB backup.
i have tomtom 7 ver. 7.910 on my p3600 running wm6 pro but seems to always come up no gps device can anyone help, please send me a message soon thanks mossy
Go to Change Preferences, Configure GPS, Click Configure, Tap left Arrow to show Other NMEA GPS receiver and tap Select, Set 4800 Baud and tap Done, Select GPS in COM9, and you are good to go. Click Done to go back to main screen.
I had the same problem once, install chaps advance config an relocate the internet temporary internet files.
by default they are located in: \windows\profiles\guest
if you use youtube a lot and google maps i can happen too.
I get this all of the time.
the problem occurs when my battery gets lower than 70% and I launch TomTom Navigator 7.
what i do now is make a copy of the Map Folder and keep it on my memory card.
I also make a zip archive and keep that on my device (not SD Card) in My Docs or somewhere else with a copy of the corresponding .dct file and .bif files and installers.
this way, i can restore tomtom onto another sd card if need be.
usually i format the card and restore the zip archive!
*chung* said:
Hmmm...
Just had this problem myself, but might have fixed it on my Artemis
Originally I copied the TomTom Navigator.EXE to \windows\start menu\programs and it worked
However; it stopped working with the "not enough memory error" - so I started disabling applications, uninstalling them etc.
Still no joy
Just out of interest tried the TomTom Navigator.EXE within the TomTom folder on my SD card - and it worked...
I've deleted the .exe from "my device" and created a shortcut to my SD Card and now it looks like it is working again
Going to keep testing now - but perhaps worth a shot
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Just had this same problem. Changing the Start Menu from a copy of the executable to a shortcut seems to have fixed it. Thanks for the tip!
Dan
Formatted sd card, reinstalled maps and everything needed from a backup = works.
Thanks xda, once again a timesaver...
Unable to start. Not enough memory is available. Mio 678 tomtom 7910
zooster said:
What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
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hi, i have this problem to Mio spirit 678 when i try to stat tomtom 7910.
Can you help me.
ciao Diego.