What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
zooster said:
What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
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I've had this happen before, and if I remember correctly, it was a corrupt Map File. I restored an earlier copy of my maps to the SD Card, and all was good again.
Try hiding your maps and see if TomTom will run. It should ask you to use a Voucher. If it does, then it's the map problem and TomTom is fine.
Nope, I've tried this tip but no success... It's really odd...
Hi Zooster. Sorry to hear about the headache you currently have.
I have had similar problems in the past month, the first time really freaked me out.
In my case, I noticed that some of the files on my sd card know longer showed up, and later discovered that others had indeed become corrupted.
I solved it (and continue to do so when it happens) by formatting my sd card and copying back onto it a copy I have of all the Tomtom files. Infact, once you get it working again, I suggest you regularly make a copy of whatever is on your sd card in case it happens again. For me, it seems to be ROM specific, i.e. only happens when I flash some of the new ROMs. Sometimes the sd card suddenly stops showing up in file explorer, sometimes I just need to remove tomtom and then reinstall it.
The problem for you now may be getting the original Tomtom files, I guess it depends where you got them from.
When I flash some ROMS, this problem occurs. I have to avoid ROMs that do that and choose another.
I hope you manage to sort it out. I know what's it like when these things suddenly go wrong for no reason! Best of luck.
Mattster.
Ok, I'll try to restore original files... I'll let you know.
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
Hmmm...
Just had this problem myself, but might have fixed it on my Artemis
Originally I copied the TomTom Navigator.EXE to \windows\start menu\programs and it worked
However; it stopped working with the "not enough memory error" - so I started disabling applications, uninstalling them etc.
Still no joy
Just out of interest tried the TomTom Navigator.EXE within the TomTom folder on my SD card - and it worked...
I've deleted the .exe from "my device" and created a shortcut to my SD Card and now it looks like it is working again
Going to keep testing now - but perhaps worth a shot
Mattster_spv said:
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
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For tomtom, TTN is the installation file, the others can be all deleted.
After installation, we only need the following 3 folders:
1. maps
2. voices
3. zip
All of them need stored in sd card root path.
If you need the satellite view, then you need one more folder in your sd card root, which is "raster"
The file "ttnavigator.bif" is auto generated by tomtom everytime you use it, you will always find it is still there even you have delete it sometime before, just leave it. Also "ttnavigator.bif" is a log file for tomtom, so it is useful, dont delete this file.
Mattster_spv said:
WHAT TOMTOM FILES DO YOU NEED ON YOUR SD CARD?
There seems to be an awful lot of tomtom files on my sd card, so I've started to delete some and see if Tomtom still works. And it does!
I've got it down to:
My Documents folder with maps inside
Voices folder
plus the following files:
ALBUM.VOL
AutoRun
Autorun.exe-run
Start
TTN
TTN2003
ttnavigator.bif
I've lost the 2257 file (that apparently causes automatic self install of Tomtom when you insert the card) so if anyone has that I'd like it back!!!
So, my question to all of you Tomtom users is: Which files are actually needed for Tomtom to work?
(I know there is the tidy up option of chucking any mystery files into a folder, but I like to know what all files on my sd card are actually doing!)
Mattster.
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In the 2577 (not 2257) map are the following files:
AutoRun.exe
Autorun.exe-run
TTN.cab
TTN2003.cab
So you just moved them to the root
The actual files for running TT are automatically stored on the device, not on the storage card
Arjan
adejager1 said:
The actual files for running TT are automatically stored on the device, not on the storage card
Arjan
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Thanks Arjan. Thanks for the reply.
What I'm curious to know is, after a new ROM flash (i.e. before TT has been installed on their clean device) what TT files do they have on the SD card.
Mattster_spv said:
Thanks Arjan. Thanks for the reply.
What I'm curious to know is, after a new ROM flash (i.e. before TT has been installed on their clean device) what TT files do they have on the SD card.
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Sorry, can't answer that. Flashed my rom quite a few times but never bothered to clean up my storage card. Probably still got Tom Tom 6 and or WM5 stuff on there
i had the issue with artemis and tomtom Navigator v7.910.9185. It was on sd. Then i deleted voice and raster folder and suddenly the problem solved!
Then i copied voice folder back to sd with 3 voices (before i had about 25) and now it works like charm.
I have had this same 'memory' problem on a few devices,
it has always been sorted by an SD card format and a card restore from my PC.
as to Tomtom after a re-flash ... I have never had any issues with it at all,
I just restore a full backup with SPB backup.
i have tomtom 7 ver. 7.910 on my p3600 running wm6 pro but seems to always come up no gps device can anyone help, please send me a message soon thanks mossy
Go to Change Preferences, Configure GPS, Click Configure, Tap left Arrow to show Other NMEA GPS receiver and tap Select, Set 4800 Baud and tap Done, Select GPS in COM9, and you are good to go. Click Done to go back to main screen.
I had the same problem once, install chaps advance config an relocate the internet temporary internet files.
by default they are located in: \windows\profiles\guest
if you use youtube a lot and google maps i can happen too.
I get this all of the time.
the problem occurs when my battery gets lower than 70% and I launch TomTom Navigator 7.
what i do now is make a copy of the Map Folder and keep it on my memory card.
I also make a zip archive and keep that on my device (not SD Card) in My Docs or somewhere else with a copy of the corresponding .dct file and .bif files and installers.
this way, i can restore tomtom onto another sd card if need be.
usually i format the card and restore the zip archive!
*chung* said:
Hmmm...
Just had this problem myself, but might have fixed it on my Artemis
Originally I copied the TomTom Navigator.EXE to \windows\start menu\programs and it worked
However; it stopped working with the "not enough memory error" - so I started disabling applications, uninstalling them etc.
Still no joy
Just out of interest tried the TomTom Navigator.EXE within the TomTom folder on my SD card - and it worked...
I've deleted the .exe from "my device" and created a shortcut to my SD Card and now it looks like it is working again
Going to keep testing now - but perhaps worth a shot
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Just had this same problem. Changing the Start Menu from a copy of the executable to a shortcut seems to have fixed it. Thanks for the tip!
Dan
Formatted sd card, reinstalled maps and everything needed from a backup = works.
Thanks xda, once again a timesaver...
Unable to start. Not enough memory is available. Mio 678 tomtom 7910
zooster said:
What the hell? Before I've changed the File system cache to auto it did work! But now that I have much more ram available about 21MB, it doesn't want to start. So I tried to go back to 4MB file system cache... but nothing, still that error message.
TomTom 7 is installed in the memory card... wtf???
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hi, i have this problem to Mio spirit 678 when i try to stat tomtom 7910.
Can you help me.
ciao Diego.
Related
Hi,
Every so often TomTom on my orbit loses sight of the maps I have on my storage card. I can't see any reason for this and have to recover from a phone backup . Once the internal memeory of the phone is recovered the maps are then visible.
Any ideas on what may be getting corrupt?
Cheers,
Neil
No answers but join the club and email HTC Tech Support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511
HTC P3300 loosing TomTom Maps
Me too. Italian OS. Once I even had to reactivate the map, after the restore. Last time that I launched TomTom receiving a msg of the type "Cannot find maps..." I just made the PDA restart with a soft IPL. Will you believe? At the restart TomTom didn't complain for any map missing.
Maybe it's a matter of low available memory when TomTom cannot locate maps.
Hope this might help you. Let us see, if anyone else is posting his experience.
Thanks for your comments.
Once TomTom loses it's maps, a soft rest wont allow it to see them, I just keep on getting the message and the opportunity to download a free one from the website.
I did a bit of playing around last night and can confirm that a hard reset then allows TomTom (installed on the Storage Card) to see the maps (I don't need to reinstall, just run the exe file) so it looks to me as if its something getting corrupt in the standard internal memory of the phone and that this is causing the loss of maps.
Neil
This is an SD card corruption issue. Email HTC to lobby for a fix. See the relevant thead.
I don't see that it's storage card corruption. If you read my last post you would see that the SC was left alone when a hard reset was performed. The hard reset would only affect the internal memory and that cleared the issue.
I think something is getting corrupted in the internal memory and not letting TomTom find the path to its maps. Maybe something is messing up a registry entry?
believe me. I have had this problem over 10 times in the last month. When the tomtom maps go missing, the map folder is usually empty. This can normally be rectified by softg-reseting the device which uses the backup FAT for the SD card (so I've read in the relevant thread) and restores the missing files. However, if the device attempts to write to the card again, after corruption (which TT does on application exit) then the card will be permenantly corrupted.
w0mbat said:
I don't see that it's storage card corruption. If you read my last post you would see that the SC was left alone when a hard reset was performed. The hard reset would only affect the internal memory and that cleared the issue.
I think something is getting corrupted in the internal memory and not letting TomTom find the path to its maps. Maybe something is messing up a registry entry?
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During a reset (hard or soft) WM5 will do a version of scandisk on any storage devices connected (Micro SD) which will try to fix FAT errors. So a reset does effect the SD card and can repair it.
OK RicardoC & debully, thanks for your advice.
I have already emailed HTC tech support a while ago. You know, I still think Resco file explorer may be the common link to my SD card woes..... I'll have to wait and see.
Cheers
Bluetooth possibly
Hiya,
I had this problem and it seemed to be linked to the bluetooth explorer setting a new storage card (virtual), if you get this problem go into settings and turn off bluetooth explorer and check what storage options are available from the memory settings, the bluetooth storage should have disappeared. Once I'd done this tomtom could find the maps again.
Hope this helps.... and you don't actually have SD problems....
jinx1uk said:
Hiya,
I had this problem and it seemed to be linked to the bluetooth explorer setting a new storage card (virtual), if you get this problem go into settings and turn off bluetooth explorer and check what storage options are available from the memory settings, the bluetooth storage should have disappeared. Once I'd done this tomtom could find the maps again.
Hope this helps.... and you don't actually have SD problems....
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thank you!
i have tryed that and it seems to do the bussiness
This also happens if you have Bluetooth Explorer activated in your Bluetooth settings.
TT6 losing maps, you are not alone.
I know this doesn't excatly help, but I don't think that this is unique to the artemis.
I have the same problem with TT6 on my himalya (XDAii). It seems to be linked to either phone S/W or BT stack as I have had it happen to me several times after I have made or received a call. My workaround is to remove and reinsert the SD.
Has any one checked if other handheld PC users have similar probs (HP?) with TT6?
I have used TT6 with no problems on X51v.
Only had the problem on the Orbit when the Bluetooth Explorer was activated.
Hi,
I had the same problem on my Orbit, never experienced the SD corruption though. I eventually solved the Map problem by following the instructions, not sure where I got them from, perhaps somewhere on this site.
The instructions stated the following:
1) create an empty file on your PC and name it 'autorun.exe'
2) create a directory named '2577' at the same level as your maps.
3) copy the empty autorun.exe file to the 2577 directory
this did the trick for me
Removed the Bluetooth explorer from the Bluetooth installing settings from the Comm manager and hey presto, maps are back.
Rock and Roll.
Hi,
I'm having some trouble with my TomTom 6.02. It wasn't pre-installed so i had to install it on my device. I've installed the mail app on the device itself and the maps and other crap on the storage card ( 2gb ).
Now the problem is that whenever i soft reset my orbit tomtom start up automatically. i found a folder in my windows dir ( /windows/startup/storage card/autorun.exe ) which is responsible for this trouble. I've tried to deleted it ( or rename it) but as soon as i make a soft reset the folder just comes back.
I also found the autorun.exe on my storage card ( /storage card/2577/autorun.exe ). after deleting this file and making a soft reset tomtom doesn't start up anymore, however if i start tomtom manually it tells me that there are no maps found. if i place the file back on my storage card tomtom start's up normally with all the maps.
I looked in the register but didn't find any links to the /windows/startup.... and yes i've tried to re-install tomtom twice now.
Does anyone had this problem or maybe knows a solution?
thx for the help
Just re-name the folde (anything2577)
I had same problem where it always wants to re-install after sprite backup resets. Just re-name the folder named 2577 to eg. AB2577 and that stops the repeated installs. If you want it to auto install in future just re-name again to 2577
the problem is, if i do this, tomtom doesn't find any maps anymore. it starts up, but with an error that there are no maps found.
Why not install version 6.03?
bonkey said:
the problem is, if i do this, tomtom doesn't find any maps anymore. it starts up, but with an error that there are no maps found.
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I use this on version 6.03 without any problems, so you may want to try that as well.
Hi,
First copy all the data onto a harddrive. Then delete the whole data on the sd Card and format the SD card. Then all you need to do is copy all the files into the SD Card this time using activeSync and it converts the files. This takes about 20-30 minutes. Leave it and then go to file explorer. Go to storage card and then go to 2577 folder. In this folder don't click on autorun instead run ttn ot ttn2003. I think this would solve the problem
doppalapudi said:
Hi,
First copy all the data onto a harddrive. Then delete the whole data on the sd Card and format the SD card. Then all you need to do is copy all the files into the SD Card this time using activeSync and it converts the files. This takes about 20-30 minutes. Leave it and then go to file explorer. Go to storage card and then go to 2577 folder. In this folder don't click on autorun instead run ttn ot ttn2003. I think this would solve the problem
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Hi, Thank allot.. i will try this out.
i found a solution for this which worked for my for dopod P800W......first go to start/connections/bluetooth then go to FTP bar and then untick the "enable Bluetooth Explorer" then press ok......after this you can now delete the 2577 folder on your sd card......my device now finds the maps everytime i start tomtom and every soft reset the tomtom does not automatically start anymore......woooohooo.....
irv777 said:
i found a solution for this which worked for my for dopod P800W......first go to start/connections/bluetooth then go to FTP bar and then untick the "enable Bluetooth Explorer" then press ok......after this you can now delete the 2577 folder on your sd card......my device now finds the maps everytime i start tomtom and every soft reset the tomtom does not automatically start anymore......woooohooo.....
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You, Sir are a genius!!!!! Thank you soo much!!
irv777 said:
i found a solution for this which worked for my for dopod P800W......first go to start/connections/bluetooth then go to FTP bar and then untick the "enable Bluetooth Explorer" then press ok......after this you can now delete the 2577 folder on your sd card......my device now finds the maps everytime i start tomtom and every soft reset the tomtom does not automatically start anymore......woooohooo.....
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This worked for me too on my Kaiser - after DAYS of messing about. Thanks!!!
irv777 said:
i found a solution for this which worked for my for dopod P800W......first go to start/connections/bluetooth then go to FTP bar and then untick the "enable Bluetooth Explorer" then press ok......after this you can now delete the 2577 folder on your sd card......my device now finds the maps everytime i start tomtom and every soft reset the tomtom does not automatically start anymore......woooohooo.....
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it works! Strange, cause bluetooth explorer wasn't enabled, I 'enabled/disabled' it and deleted the folder.
did you try turning it off and on again, sir?
This is really weird...
I followed the instruction and all started to work just fine..
Then, just for the heck of it, I checked the "enable Bluettoth explorer" box again...
Guess what? It doesn't find the maps! If I uncheck it, it cmoes back to worki perfect...
Mystery...
Hello all,
I've written a watchdog that allows to catch a moment when the storage card is corrupted and softreset before the driver flushes FAT and root folder.
More details are here:
http://www.nixie.narod.ru/sdsentry/index-en.htm
I hope this will help you.
Any feedback is welcome.
I'm online with MSN [email protected] (also it is my email)
BTW, it doesn't matter what brand and size of the storage card is.
I have Kingston 1GB, and _it happens.
Thankyou for your work, Nikolay. It is apreciated.
I have had the software installed for a couple of days, and all is well.
Same here Nickolay, I have already posted a reply to your post at Spb Club forum.
I have your piece of code installed for few days and haven't seen the red icon, yet. Hope never will. Tnx .... as your code can save some nerves
I have tried your program but it keeps throwing up a corruption warning saying that there is an empty directory - Program Files on the storage card (which there is - I guess it is empty because I have no apps installed on the card)
Any suggestions?
garymansell said:
Any suggestions?
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Create a file in that folder...
Does anyone know the workaround with the WM5torage program?.....everytime i launch this app the SD-Sentry red icon appears saying that there is a corruption but when i check the storage card its fine.......thanks in advance
WM5torage disables the storage card for the orbit as long as it is active. During that time it is only accessible by the PC. Other programs like Tomtom do not work, because they can't find their data on the card. So does SDsentry.
Dear programmer,
your program seems to be a fine PlugIn for the XDA-Error with destroyed directorys oon the SD-Card.
Unfortunately your program is working in english devices only as it seems.
In german devices where the storage card is named "Speicherkarte" from the german WM5 your program will creating a new folder named "storage card" where it puts its check-files SdSentry.txt into each existing directory. No SdSentry.txt-file in any Dirs on the storage card.
In the dialogwindow of SdSentry the storage card is names "Speicherkarte".
The real storage card is not recogniced and protected in this way, as I assume.
Or did I something wrong?
Will you program a german version of SdSentry too?
I would be very glad about.
because of the described problem, I wrote a mail to the programer of SdSentry.
A solution was coming back immediately, how to install SdSentry im devices with other WM5-languages than english.
The program has a little bug to find the real storage card and creates instead a directory named "storage card" in the root of the device, that contains two directorys named "My Documents" and "Programme". In each of this three folders SdSentry creates a txt-file "SdSentry.txt" for verifiing the directury-structure for accessibility later.
For getting SdSentry working on german devices (analog other languages), copy following files:
\\storage card\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte(or however the name of your real storage card is)\SdSentry.txt
\\storage card\My Documents\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte\My Documents\SdSentry.txt
\\storage card\Programme\SdSentry.txt to \\Speicherkarte\Programme\SdSentry.txt
After copying the three files, you can delete the folder \\storage card with its subdirs "My Documents" and "Programme"
Since I've did this modifications, SdSentry seems to work well on my german-XDA Orbit.
Hoping it avoids more crashs of my SD-Card.
What a fun sitting in the car and loosing Navi, adresses and all tasks for today out of the HTC. May driving back to office and reinstalling the device.
I won't count how much time cause of this this worthless phone I had loosen last weeks.
Hi All,
Anyone know how to install Tomtom Navigator on Storage card?
Similar question applies to other CABs I have I would like to know for those which do not offer choice of destination installation, how to install either alter tha cab to give the choice or other solution?
Please can you help?
I asked similar question earlier but only answer I had was to use WINCE CAB Manager which I don't know how to change...
Thanks
Whenever I install Navigator it gives me the choice of storage card or device. Do you not get those choices? And it still installs a lot of files to the device even though I chose storage card, I think it's unavoidable.
Can you send me a link of TomTom Navigation software so I would discover out and tell you ?
The way I did it was to install TomTom onto the devices internal memory as normal then move the program files directory etc over. Point the shortcuts into the correct exe location and it all works perfectly fine. Even after flashing the device several times since I'm as yet to reinstall it as I don't need to!
Hi,
Using MDA III, with Tom-Oops-Black-v1.0-WWE ROM, and the TT_Nav_7.450.9028_black.cab file. When I click the CAB, and choose the install location, the message Installing TT_Nav_7.450.9028_black.cab... remains on screen for ever, with no change in the progress bar.
I have tried soft and hard resets, with the same issue. Other CAB files install ok.
I have tried several TomTom7 CABS
Please advise if you have seen this, and a possible fix?
You could try installing tomtom to your sd card using another rom. Then putting oops back on. Tomtom runs straight of my sd card i installed it once and every hard reset or new rom i just need to make a shortcut.
worth a try
cool, i'll try that via my other device which works, thanks. I wasn't sure if it needed registry or windows system changes.
try format your sd card, copy totmtom.cab file and run it. Always works for me
Thanks people
Zetsumei,
Thanks, I just copied the install form the other working device, and pasted onto the other devices SD Card, works perfectly.
Freo73,
Good advice, I was going to do that when I got home, because I do not have the micro SD adaptor. I did copy the CAB file to internal memory, and the install also hung there...
For now, this issue is resolved.