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WM6 update sticking at 28%

Hi all, new to all this.
I have spent the last 6 days scanning the forums and wiki about upgrading to the offical rom for the trinity to WM6.
I have tried super cid and sim unlocks as well as Hard SPL and many other tricks and advice from users.
None of them seem to work.
Does anyone have a real idea (a proper technical answer) as to why the progress stops @ 28% on this update and not on any of the cooked roms?
I would really appreciate some help on this.....
Thanks all
walterjm

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udK said:
search on top is your friend
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I know, but I have been using this for Six day's and tried all avenues. The reason to ask here is one of frustration.
But thanks anyhow....

my guess is something about the ipl or spl, since after you remove those and put it in a modified RUU it works..

racerx_ said:
my guess is something about the ipl or spl, since after you remove those and put it in a modified RUU it works..
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Hey thanks for the tip will keep looking and learn how to modify RUU file...
Cheers
walterjm

racerx_ said:
my guess is something about the ipl or spl, since after you remove those and put it in a modified RUU it works..
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OK I am completely stupid. Can anyone point me in the correct direction on how to modify RUU files.
Please please please...

I have the following in the bootloader menu
IPL-1.00
SPL-1.30.Olipro
Should I be able to load the official WM6 rom from HTC?

yeah, technically...

why don't you try the official rom without SPL?
You can get it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324744

racerx_ said:
yeah, technically...
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ok I found the answer....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321182&page=7
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http://rapidshare.com/files/47349234...nospl.rar.html
First flash hard spl before flashing this rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299659
And dont hold me responsible if this update fails for you.
It worked fine for me.
Spl and Ipl are removed , and splash screens changed to htc screens.
Thats all , so it still has latest radio and extrom.
I advise you to soft reset when you first boot your trin and see the screen that says customization will start in 3 seconds.
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this is the only way I could do it. Something is no quite correct with the
I think the guys at this thread need to revisit there ideas......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299659
because it does not work ...
cheers walterjm

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why don't you try the official rom without SPL?
You can get it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324744
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Hey I was typing the response as your did also....
I think this is what I did. Works great. Still seems to be a problem.
Where can I learn more about spl, ipl, hard spl and all those technical terms...???
cheers walterjm

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
XDADeveloperWiki - HTC_Trinity
Also search with google - go to advanced search and search http://forum.xda-developers.com for the above terms - you'll learn lots!

probably a n00b question :)

hello, i am kinda new to this scene, but i mean no harm
I don't know everything but am eager to learn.
so i gonna ask some newbee questions and maybe i didn't read everything but hell, there is no harm asking
i just bought the diamond (in the dutch language, i've seen a couple more dutch ppl so if there is some one that knows alot, please add me @ msn : Deleted for Users Privacy You don't know Which Creep will add you, Use the Safe PM Method)
now i have some questions
- how can i extract my current rom? and can i use that extracted rom as a backup when i accidentily flash the wrong rom, or just want to have it back to the old way
- what is hard spl, i know it has something to do with the signing of other roms than the original rom, what are the dangers about flashing the spl, can it do any harm to my diamond? and can i go back to the original settings (and also, how about warranty?)
- before i had the Diamond, i had the Herald (P4350) and i bricked it twice, can this also happen with the diamond? or isn't that possible couze the SPL can be flashed (it wasn't possible with my p4350, thats why it was bricked )
i ask this questions becouse i want to get the maximum from my diamond, but i also have a contract on my provider and can't get a new phone in 2 years, don't want to waste my diamond on a stupid accident
if you think i am a noob, i am. but don't reply if you don't have any thing intresting to tell.
please don't tell me to use the search, becouse there are verry much topics and i can't get an hold of it, that's why i am asking it here.
Thank you verry much,
regards,
Sam

Im not ENORMOUSLY qualified to answer the SPL questions in depth but the General purpose of using HardSPL is that your device is freed up to use ANY ROM you wish (it has to be a diamond rom though). Hence your device is not limited to ROMs by your carrier:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
By adding the signing of ROMS and radios etc...this has removed the possibility of ROMs being flashed which are known to brick devices, wether it is intentional or just an accident by a ROM chef. Only allowing signed images to be flashed makes it alot safer for the majority of users.

Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.

chribruu said:
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
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yeah i know, but hell, it's only my gmail accout. got a lots of those

Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
Anyway these questions are the same resting on my shoulders .... sadly my thread got closed.
All we want to know is how we .... backup the ROM before flashing and restoring it.
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
SPL (Secondary Program Loader) ... this will boot the actual OS.
ROM ... this is the part where WM61 etc all is?
Ext_ROM ... this is the part where HTC has put all its customizations like TF3D?
So when we use this HardSPL, we only flash the SPL ... ROM stays intact? And how do we make a backup of all this?
Also why is a hard-reset needed if only the SPL is being flashed? It would just startup and boot your ROM, or am I mistaken?
Maybe once Ive gained more knowledge about these nifty phones, I can contribute to the community too like you all do. Maybe I'll just start a "Total noob guide to the HTC Diamond" ... all I need is a start, I want to flash this thing ASAP .... but I first want to get a few simple answers which arent 100% answered by the wiki or forums (mainly how to backup ROM, radio etc etc etc BEFORE flashing).
Meh my posts tend to get longer than expected on new forums

@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.

sfjuocekr said:
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
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no IPL for diamond, the radio bootloader does that job.
the rest was said by pof very nicely
btw note: when you try to apply shift/kaiser commands to dump the rom, make sure you change the sizes in the commands, to match the pdocread -l info.

mrvanx said:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
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Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...

demonizator said:
Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.

pof said:
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
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This is the reply on which Ive been waiting
As soon as I'm home Ill read more about it and maybe post my finding is a uniform Diamond thread ...
Also the sketch from the layout ... I made up from information I found all over the forums and wiki, I do apply common sense but I still have limited knowhow about how these phones work.
Anyway thanks alot, Ill be trying to backup my phone asap when I arrive home from work (I work for Tele2/Versatel ... dont be scared I wont do any harm )

mrvanx said:
HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
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Got you...

Seems, after reading while working, these dumps are not the biggest helpers. As in we can't yet use them to rebuild the original ROM? I might have overlooked something, will investigate further this evening after work.
My question now still is, does this also update radio and SPL?
So the HTC Diamond basicly consists of a radio ROM, then the SPL and then goes into HTC ROM with WM61 etc ...?
So upgrading to HardSPL ... doesnt touch your current ROM and allows it to boot into it fine or does it need to be signed? Why is the hardreset needed then?
Anyway Im probably asking the same questions found on other parts of the forum, sorry for that if it annoys people around here. I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
I have alot of coding and hardware experience, which might help the community some day when I gain more knowledge. My age was the homemade EEPROM programmers and big ZIF-sockets business, you probably know what Im aiming for

sfjuocekr said:
I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
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I second that. Is there a way to do a full backup and restore to factory defaults after using hardspl and cooked roms?

SPL: you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have, or you can dump it from the device before HardSPL'ing it. (see one of the previous threads I linked on how to pmemdump the SPL).
Radio:you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have.
OS: Search how to reconstruct a dumped ROM, again, apply common sense

sfjuocekr said:
Why is the hardreset needed then?
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that's just standard RUU procedure. you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.

cmonex said:
you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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I guess that you will do that soon too, right?
Perfect job you guys!!!

Is anybody intrested in german ROM?

Hi folks,
if there's anybody intrested in german ROM, please let me know how to extract it from my HTC Dimond Touch.
Ciao, Buildex101

yeah, well done for posting this thread twice....

I am definetely interested! Unfortunately I don´t know how to extract the ROM, maybe one ofthe more experianced people can help.
ps: do you have the O2 ROM or the generic german ROM?

YESSSSS.. i am interested too, but i can not help u!
is it the XDA Diamond or the HTC Diamond? and which version?
Thanx in advance
WBR
Siemens Lover

Great Idea . I am also very ineressted.
Regards,
Tika

JanDaMan said:
yeah, well done for posting this thread twice....
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I hate such since less comments. Yeah, now we know, that you are mr. perfect !

+1
HTC ROM prefered

Cendaryn said:
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HTC ROM prefered
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same here!

Read the Kaiser Wiki or the dutch ROM dump thread here in diamond forum for dumping instructions.

I could also extract my original (german) htc rom - but i do not know how. if someone can put me in the right direction, i will do this.

No one uploads his ROM
OK let's start with some hints
first read this:
push me
post #18 shows you the way, but read from the beginning to understand the dump procedure.
The tool don't work ?
read this (point 6)

Come on guys, lasst es uns wagen..

i could give it a try - but is it worth trying since i only have the rom version 1.37.00.00? i think there's a newer rom out there, isn't there?

der_olli said:
i could give it a try - but is it worth trying since i only have the rom version 1.37.00.00? i think there's a newer rom out there, isn't there?
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Yepp, mine is 1.37.407.2 GER.

JanDaMan said:
yeah, well done for posting this thread twice....
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I didn't post it twice. The Website had problems I think. Because I did lose connection to it while posting. After that it was down. Ok, ok, it was my fault, that it was down, because I posted it twice, right?

buildex101 said:
Yepp, mine is 1.37.407.2 GER.
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So it seems that YOU have to dump your rom However I did read that a higher number (1.37.407.2 > 1.37.00.00) does not inevitable imply a newer rom. Does someone know something about that?
Anyway I ask myself how it could be that the phone is out just a few days in germany and there are almost so much different rom versions?
Btw: Do you have an original HTC device or a branded one?

der_olli said:
So it seems that YOU have to dump your rom However I did read that a higher number (1.37.407.2 > 1.37.00.00) does not inevitable imply a newer rom. Does someone know something about that?
Anyway I ask myself how it could be that the phone is out just a few days in germany and there are almost so much different rom versions?
Btw: Do you have an original HTC device or a branded one?
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It's HTC Touch Diamond (original and unbranded) - I'll try to extract the ROM.

Thanks... Can't wait to have the black TouchFlo

Ok, now I have 4 RAW-Files. Can anybody please explain me the next steps to do?

buildex101 said:
Ok, now I have 4 RAW-Files. Can anybody please explain me the next steps to do?
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PLEASE, help this man. PLEASE Help us .

noob i'm afraid.

I'm wanting to get WM6.1 on my Orange (UK) SPV M3100, so i'm following the instructions at http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=26
My question is:
There appears to be hundreds of roms to download.
Which one should I download?
Many thanks,
Ian.

Let the flaming begin

shanetheclassic said:
Let the flaming begin
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NOT on topic or helpfull, better off NOT posting at all sir. We were all noobs once.
@djsky123, take some time to read through the threads in this forum and familiarise yourself with the ROMs currently alive....CRCs, PDAcorner and MRH seem to be the current ROMs in progress..

I think CRC's ROM is probably the best in existence...
I might have a little bit of bias though
Seriously though, have a read through what is included on the ROMs and see what fits your personal tastes...
Just make sure you flash your device with HardSPL first to prevent future tears...

CRCinAU said:
I think CRC's ROM is probably the best in existence...
I might have a little bit of bias though
Seriously though, have a read through what is included on the ROMs and see what fits your personal tastes...
Just make sure you flash your device with HardSPL first to prevent future tears...
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Well, yeah... i took the plunge and did your 6.1 release 11.2 (hope you don't mind).
Seems good so far. - The wife's asking when my grandad died though.. took a bit of explaining why I had someone elses on my phone...
Thanks for welcoming me, and I'm sure i'll be on here over the coming months.

djsky123 said:
Well, yeah... i took the plunge and did your 6.1 release 11.2 (hope you don't mind).
Seems good so far. - The wife's asking when my grandad died though.. took a bit of explaining why I had someone elses on my phone...
Thanks for welcoming me, and I'm sure i'll be on here over the coming months.
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On the first few pages of this whole list there is a kitchen to make your own splash screen, or even some have posted stock screens that some people pulled out, enjoy xda, it's the coolest place for your hermes.

zocster said:
....enjoy xda, it's the coolest place for your hermes.
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it really is. but a warning to you, READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!!! knowledge is power in this forum (it works as currency too)

Can I Just ask, now that i've flashed my hermes with a new rom, is it now un-locked so that I can insert sim cards from other networks in it? I was on orange UK but want to use an O2 sim in there at some point.
Cheers.

djsky123 said:
Can I Just ask, now that i've flashed my hermes with a new rom, is it now un-locked so that I can insert sim cards from other networks in it? I was on orange UK but want to use an O2 sim in there at some point.
Cheers.
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665

So the answer is no, and I need to also flash something called a "Radio Rom" ?

djsky123 said:
So the answer is no, and I need to also flash something called a "Radio Rom" ?
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The answer is "no but its easy to, by reading that topic and using that tool"

djsky123 said:
I'm wanting to get WM6.1 on my Orange (UK) SPV M3100, so i'm following the instructions at http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=26
My question is:
There appears to be hundreds of roms to download.
Which one should I download?
Many thanks,
Ian.
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Dear Ian,
I cannot tell which ROM to flash because it depends on MANY things... Nevertheless i can tell you a few things thay will help you...
1. Read the Flashers BIBLE i.e. the WIKI.
2. Never, but NEVER mess or tamper with our PDA unless you are sure of what you'r doing BEFORE you do it. If your are not sure ask before.
3. Never pay attention to flames or stupid answers. You will get quite a few over here...
4. I was oncve a noob and i know how it feels to e stepingon muddy watters.
5. If you feel you get no positive answer to your questions, PM me at will and i will try to help.
Cheers, welcoe and good luck

no you need to run an unlocker not flash the radio you can get the unlocker for the hermes from here if its a g3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665

first of all do Hardspl, this will unlock your device too.
remember - when you flash any official rom you automaticaly erase hardspl. suggest you to try some pdaviet roms, for noob they are very nice. but if you need stability - try pda corner e.t.c. by the way - Im using spv too

obaz said:
first of all do Hardspl, this will unlock your device too.
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I did HardSPL, so it should be unlocked I guess.
One issue i've got with CRC's 6.1 rom is that when I get an answerphone message, it only comes through as a text message showing random characters. Can this be fixed somehow?
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djsky123 said:
obaz said:
first of all do Hardspl, this will unlock your device too.
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I did HardSPL, so it should be unlocked I guess.
One issue i've got with CRC's 6.1 rom is that when I get an answerphone message, it only comes through as a text message showing random characters. Can this be fixed somehow?
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When you get to a ROM-specific issue, it is best to post in the specific thread for that ROM (helps keep the forums organized and helps you get an answer more quickly)
Welcome and best of luck!
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djsky123 said:
obaz said:
first of all do Hardspl, this will unlock your device too.
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I did HardSPL, so it should be unlocked I guess.
One issue i've got with CRC's 6.1 rom is that when I get an answerphone message, it only comes through as a text message showing random characters. Can this be fixed somehow?
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6.2 is oldd.. the newest version is 11.2, maybe you should try flashing that and seeing if it is fixed.
If it keeps on, try asking in the 11.2 thread.
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SPL from phone 3 Branded Swedish

Hi!
I wonders if anyone has the original spl from 3 Branded Swedish Touch diamond?
To make it clean again (restore) for a warranty service.
The SPLs that where here didn't work with the update on HTC homepage.
It just said wrong vendor id or something like that.
This is the update anyway.
http://dl.htc.com/downloadfiles/Rom...igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe
If it could help.
Thanks

zoom82 said:
Hi!
I wonders if anyone has the original spl from 3 Branded Swedish Touch diamond?
To make it clean again (restore) for a warranty service.
The SPLs that where here didn't work with the update on HTC homepage.
It just said wrong vendor id or something like that.
This is the update anyway.
http://dl.htc.com/downloadfiles/Rom...igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe
If it could help.
Thanks
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A little search would have given you this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414652
Moderators just recently asked not to open new threads when it already exists.

halloj said:
A little search would have given you this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414652
Moderators just recently asked not to open new threads when it already exists.
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I Did see that thread but I thought it didn´t fit there.
But if any of the mods like to they can move it to that thread.
So can someone pleas tell me how to extract the spl from that package that i linked to I would be pleased =)