Flash the OEM Stock ROM Before EVERY Upgrade? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I know people have repeatedly said it's best to flash a stock ROM before upgrading to your cooked rom, but do you do this before every ROM change? Wasn't sure of the protocol...thanks

Each and every time - normal procedure for me to avoid hard resets, etc.
Same thing for the wizards also.......
Edit - as corrected by other responses, not a standard procedure for flashing roms, just a procedure I follow due to hard reset issues previously.

Thanks for the quick reply!
I actually have 1 more question...does it matter WHICH rom you flash? like do you need to flash the rom that the cooked rom is most based off of?
I have been using this one before flashes: RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship
but just realized i may need to have a stock rom that is closer to what i am flashing

That's the oem rom I've been using.....
Should someone respond with something better, then we both will have a new base for flashing.
Have a good one

ROM minus the radio
I believe someone had posted once that OEM ROM extracted without the radio...i'd like to find that so i'm not reflashing my radio too every time...

Is this really true? I haven't been to active on the board the last few months, but I don't remember seeing that prior to this. What's the technical reason behind it? I don't know how many dozens of times I've flashed my phone...haven't had an official ROM on it since the day I bought the thing.

I haven't and so far I have not had any hard reset with any ROMs that I have tried for the last year. My latest being MaRaHox 5.02.

I guess it is best practice to do so, best to flash with your carrier shipped rom, and then upgrade/downgrade your radio, then your desired rom that you wish to keep.

I believe someone had posted once that OEM ROM extracted without the radio...i'd like to find that so i'm not reflashing my radio too every time...
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Yea it is true, if you had used a search before posting a new thread you might have found it! Here is the link!

The only time I flash a OEM ROM is if I am going from BIGSTORAGE to non BIGSTORAGE. Thats just me though and I haven't had any problems.

Fortunately, I never needed to flash the official. But it's the best thing to do for those having HR & Bigstorage flashing issues...

I use Vp3G 6.0 ROM as my baseline. It is close to the standard AT&T ROM. The biggest problem is goingfrom a big storage ROM back to a "standard" ROM. However, I baseline my device each time I flash a new ROM because it only takes a few minutes to do so.

ai6908 said:
Yea it is true, if you had used a search before posting a new thread you might have found it! Here is the link!
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You must be joking...
first of all - i am not an idiot, i know how to search, i just don't always know how to FIND - i did search...for like 20 minutes!! i couldn't find the exact answer to that question. Of course YOU knew where to find that thread cause u were posting in it earlier!
second - i don't see the reason people get SO offended over a repost?! of course if it is something that is asked EVERY day and it is your first post and u are like, which is the best rom...ok, you deserve to hear it...but people love to flame you over asking a question when it takes 2 seconds of someones time to answer and it could take me literally 20 minutes or more to find the specific answer i am looking for. Plus other people got benefit from my asking again so what is the bloody harm??
Third - you got me all excited and didn't link me to what i was looking for! I saw someone post the OEM ATT ROM but without the radio. So, Mr. Smart guy, please search your loving heart out and help me find it...please! Cause i have no clue how to find that file
EDIT: Whoops, ok i just read where you explained how to do the extraction...that does help actually thanks

Flashing an official rom prior to flashing WM6.1 roms may be a good a practice. however, on my part, i never needed to do that. I just flashed PdaViet's WM6.1 rom from Shaminix's WM6 rom and it is still stable and fast. No hard resets whatsover. I am also using an ATT 8525 handset.

It seems as though people are asking if this is standard practice or not... The answer is simple... It is not standard practice for everyone... It is completely up to the individual, if this is what they want to do....
I suffer from RFWS (Rom Flashing Withdrawal Syndrome) and due to my disorder, I usually flash several times a week and NEVER do I flash an OEM rom before flashing the rom I actually want... I also don't have any issues while doing it this way...
Now, with that being said, I can understand why one would flash when going from BigStorage to NonBigStorage or Vice-Versa, but that is about it...
/rantoff

I just flash the rom i want to try out , no official roms for me ,if it isn't an illegal rom it just doesnt't feel right
i used to flash everyday, but then the big white van with the blue flashing lights took me away to the big house

Dillsnik said:
EDIT: Whoops, ok i just read where you explained how to do the extraction...that does help actually thanks
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I was about to say that you have to start reading, but I am glad that post helped you out!

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Lost in Crossbow

Hi guys,
I am a newbie about Crossbow but I would like to upgrade to Crossbow but I am not sure which version would be the more stable? I am using my phone mainly for Phone, Email push, Agenda, Sync with Outlook, will it be fine?
Also, after upgrading to crossbow can I go back to my initial O2 image without too much trouble?
Thank you for your help.
All of your questions can be answered by reading the wiki, and threads.
Everyone will probably say the ROM they are using is the best thing ever, it's a highly personal choice as to what suits you best.
All will do what you want, and yes you can go back, but please, read, and understand what you are going to be doing first BEFORE you flash it. If you mess it up, it's your own fault, and although people will try to help, sometimes inexperience, and lack of understanding can make people do something really stupid.
Thank you Alan.
Indeed with the Wiki I manage to update to crossbow Image.
I give a try at PDAviet latest ROM I will see how it goes.
Thanks for your help.
My dear friend,
There is no need for user feed back.
If I flash a ROM and find it to be bad and recommend to you as good one, u will flash it and find it unsuitable
If I flash a ROM and find it to be good and tell u that its not good, then u lose the advantage of getting a good ROM
So it is better for you to flash and find for yourself which ROM is better. To find out whether it suits your needs
Note : Please read all the instructions for flashing before you start
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My dear friend,
There is no need for user feed back.
If I flash a ROM and find it to be bad and recommend to you as good one, u will flash it and find it unsuitable
If I flash a ROM and find it to be good and tell u that its not good, then u lose the advantage of getting a good ROM
So it is better for you to flash and find for yourself which ROM is better. To find out whether it suits your needs
Note : Please read all the instructions for flashing before you start
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Well my friend..... if that is the case....lets just close the FORUM and have downloads only!!!???
I finally flash my universal with Crossbow.
It's great so far. I didn't use the push email and other data functionality since I am abroad but I found the speed of the O/S really fantastic.
Thanks guys for your help.
agent003 said:
Well my friend..... if that is the case....lets just close the FORUM and have downloads only!!!???
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whahahaha lol

Why to change the ROM?

Hello All,
I am using the O2 UK stock ROM for alreadz 2 monthes. now iam wondering if i should try to flash the device with one of the ROMs here.
can anyone tell me if i should do it or not, what is the advantage of flashing a new ROM?
thank you
Mostly to improve performance and stability, also to fix some problems.
All new roms comes with new AKU version, this is something like SP for Windows systems.
before you flash
always read the 1st post or 2 of the rom you are flashing.
all the info you should need is there
this way you won't be back and your next post won't be....
"help i have bricked my diamond"
good luck and have fun!
When you are happy with your phone now, don't flash it.
If you have issues, see if a new rom fixes it.
its all about the speed man!!!
and making it look unique
Flashing always has its small or big issues.
When you don't know what flashing is about anyway, why would he bother?
I first flashed a new ROM with ELFin and the speed was mind-blowing, not to mention the extra free space and RAM. For me, it's a must.
Just make sure enough people have downloaded and commented on its reliability and stability as well as the above (i.e. speed, RAM etc).
*READ*
sorrowt said:
Hello All,
I am using the O2 UK stock ROM for alreadz 2 monthes. now iam wondering if i should try to flash the device with one of the ROMs here.
can anyone tell me if i should do it or not, what is the advantage of flashing a new ROM?
thank you
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If you are happy running your stock O2 rom then just keep it that way & maybe just read up on customizing your phone.
Rom flashing on a £400 phone should only really be done if you know what your doing, so if you do decide to flash a custom rom to your phone then you better get busy reading up on the do's & especially the dont's otherwise you could end up with a £400 brick
read the wiki's
read the tuts/info/ posts on cid/ sim/ security stuff.
read read then read again is my advice, because it's amazing the amount of people that brick their phones just by pure ignorance.
For me it's a no brainer I like modding anything & everything nm just phones hehehe
Any's good luck on which ever you choose to do
It it works and you are happy with it don't flash. It really all depends if there is any thing in the new rom that you want.

Original OS of the Diamond

Hello everyone,
I hope I posted my first question here in the right area (if not, shame on me )
In the next few days my HTC Touch Diamond will arrive from Vodafone. I do not know if this is just in Germany but my last phone from Vodafone, a Sony Ericsson W810i, also had a "special" Vodafone-OS on it. On the W810i I was finally able to look up all the necessary information myself to make it a Vodafone-free phone. But as I read through all the available Wiki's, FAQs and other threads I am starting to see that this might be another level compared to what I have done before.
My questions concerning my new device are whether there is a possibility to change the "Vodafone-red-theme" to the original one which you also can see on HTC's homepage. Of course, the whole device should be in its original form, not just the theme, whereas the Vodafone-Services (SMS-Gateway and all the other service numbers which are needed to use the device). I think it is possible, maybe it has something to do with a "ROM-Upgrade" or so, as I have seen in a FAQ around here.
My other question is, of course, how to do that, what tools are needed etc.
In short, I need you to provide me the right link to a tutorial since here are so many and I do not know which one to take (and I do not want to screw up the device).
I hope that you can help me, if I accidentally posted this thread in the wrong forums might a moderator please be so kind to move it to the right section and notify me of my fault.
Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany (or Bavaria, to be more exact )
Zuzler
We'll let you off!
Yes, you are in the wrong section... you should be in the 'Diamond ROM development' section, but everyone is allowed one mistake (Except, myself... I have infinite mistake allowance!)
My device was vodafone branded when I got it, and that's the first thing I wanted to get rid of too.
First you need to 'Hard SPL', which unlocks the device so you can flash any ROM you wish. Then just flash your required ROM. I would highly recommend AZTOR's X2 Ultimate. He has the philosophy of keeping the ROM as close to the original stock ROM as possible, only better, stronger, faster... like the bionic man (I'm showing my age now!!).
Everything you need is in this tutorial. I followed it to the letter, and now my device is everything it should be. It's always very nerve racking the first time you flash your device, but what ever happens, there's some sharp wizard in this forum with the knowledge to get you out of the brown stuff... have fun
Hi grahamkdt,
thanks for you reply. I already thought after submitting that it would have been better to post this in the development area. I will contact a Mod immediately to solve that.
Thank you for the recommendation about the ROM, but there is still one problem for me:
Should I upgrade the "Radio" first, since in the tutorial you gave to me it is step B. Or is this just a prerequisite to not breaking anything? Are there also different versions?
Regards,
Zuzler
thread moved
now we are all happy
Wow thanks, I also contacted tnyynt for that
Can't remember...
Zuzler said:
Hi grahamkdt,
thanks for you reply. I already thought after submitting that it would have been better to post this in the development area. I will contact a Mod immediately to solve that.
Thank you for the recommendation about the ROM, but there is still one problem for me:
Should I upgrade the "Radio" first, since in the tutorial you gave to me it is step B. Or is this just a prerequisite to not breaking anything? Are there also different versions?
Regards,
Zuzler
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I can't remember if AZTOR's ROM's include the radio. It might be worth flashing a radio first from here. I use Radio v1.09.25.23 (Quad Band) (52.51.25.26H) - no issues at all.
Or, you could ask AZTOR if radio is included in his ROM's if you're really concerned. Personally I'd just flash one first anyway...
Ok, I will ask him personally (just seen hes from Germany, too - might make some things easier)
Thanks again!

HTC standard ROM on T-mo TP2 possible?

I just thought about this right now. Can the standard HTC ROM be flashed to the Tmobile TP2? Or would we have to wait for the HSPL? Im pretty sure you can flash other standard ROMs right? [like those in different languages]. So is it possible to flash an HTC ROM to the Tmo version at this point? Maybe this belongs in the ROM development section, sorry if it does, but i think its a general question.
Also, how do you check to see if you have CID unlocked your phone, [using the hardware keys]? i did a search of it, but couldnt find it again.
forgive me if im double posting, i did a search for these questions, but couldnt come up with a definitive answer. Or a clear one, for that matter. So i thought its better to ask yourself.
anyways, thanks for the time and the replies guys.
-josh.
No one? looks like 59 other people are interested.. haha. any answers?
No. I skimmed through your question quickly. I bet it's already been asked like 5 other times.
Right now, the HardSPL for our phone is being developed. Once that's done, we can flash other ROM's. Right now, we're stuck with the T-Mobile ROM. And there's no way to CID unlock yet, either. So, just wait for the HardSPL. That's all we can do. I got a PM going around, I guess they're looking for some native thing...Here's the message...
Don't forget to use the tool provided in this thread! The sooner we find somebody with a Hynix internal memory, the sooner we can have Hard-SPL on our Touch Pro 2's! If you've already done this, please ignore this message.​
Do that if you wanna get the HardSPL going faster. I guess it's just like the lottery, whoever has the lucky device! That's how YOU can contribute to the community. Got it?
You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.
solsearch said:
You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.
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You can, it would just have to be modified by the cook, making it a "custom ROM". That will be possible in, I'm guessing, a month, once HardSPL is working on our phones. It'll be way better with custom ROM's, but we gotta just wait.
Oh, I meant you can't right now. Not that it's impossible without the right tools and time enough. But to just download the rom and try to flash it without any extra steps or tricks isn't currently possible.
Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow
ImmortalShadow said:
Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow
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Or we can wait for HardSPL, lol. That'll be easier for most, and be less bothersome for the cooks.
But it's good to hear that you got a custom ROM! I hate that T-Mo crap
Yeah, T-mo ROM really sucks...
HTC ROM runs much smoother, consuming less RAM, and allowing me to use icq and skype, which is the biggest plus.
Now my TP2 really is (In my oppinion) the best phone on the market
True, can't wait to flash a chefs rom to get rid of all the bloatware!

new to windows phone

im a newbie when i comes to windows phones, ive had blackberry's my whole contract and i figured what the heck ill try one so i found a new one on ebay and when i got it, it looked like it had the sense rom installed, and me being an idiot, put the original rom back on it. how can i put sense back into it? lol
go to the touch pro 2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile Rom development forum and read the Hard-SPL unlocker sticky thread and make sure your device is hard-spl'd, if not then do it. Then read the Flashing your first GSM Rhodium Rom (also a stickied thread) [this is assuming ur device is gsm (at&t or t-mobile)] and go through the roms and flash whichever one you please. NRG's Energy roms seem to be the most popular for the rhodium but its all up to your personal preference.
brad218 said:
im a newbie when i comes to windows phones, ive had blackberry's my whole contract and i figured what the heck ill try one so i found a new one on ebay and when i got it, it looked like it had the sense rom installed, and me being an idiot, put the original rom back on it. how can i put sense back into it? lol
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Wait a minute, you already burned a ROM and you don't know how to burn a new ROM? If you are asking what ROM to burn, take a look at the ROM development forums.
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Wait a minute, you already burned a ROM and you don't know how to burn a new ROM? If you are asking what ROM to burn, take a look at the ROM development forums.
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I was just about to say that.. if you can put one rom on you can put any rom on (any rom thats compatible with your phone that is)
well the rom i put on was the regular factory rom from htc's website and i found it to be easy cuz it was an .exe file, idk about other roms. whats a good rom for me to use? i was thinking sense but i read it slowed down after alot of txts and emails. im a big txter and i use emails alot so i dont know what to load on my phone. any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. and for the record, im 18yo, and dont know much about this kind of technical stuff.
brad218 said:
well the rom i put on was the regular factory rom from htc's website and i found it to be easy cuz it was an .exe file, idk about other roms. whats a good rom for me to use? i was thinking sense but i read it slowed down after alot of txts and emails. im a big txter and i use emails alot so i dont know what to load on my phone. any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. and for the record, im 18yo, and dont know much about this kind of technical stuff.
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There is an issue with SAVING sms - it slows down the phone a lot. But it should be no problem to view them and then delete the old ones. I use the NRG ROM. But I would go over to the ROM Development section and read up. Start by discovering if the phone has Hard SPL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490

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