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IMEI-Check used to run by a guy called Florin Mandache. He always seemed very good, helpful and I think was highly regarded, from what I've read on various forums.
Suddenly his unlocking site has insisted that you need to send them some Photo-ID in addition to the PayPal payment. Hang on a minute, fraud is not his problem, that's up to PayPal and PayPal say they do not need it.
In my case the payment has gone from PayPal to IMEI-Check but they're still insisting on Photo-ID
So I inquired to [email protected] as to why Photo-ID was needed as just about everybody advises you nowadays, not to give out that kinda stuff on the net!
The reply "Below" was not like any reply I'd seen Florin make on bulletin boards before (his english is better!) and now I'm very nervous about using them...
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Question regarding fraud
Hello,
We want to make sure that you are the real owner of the account and nothing else. We are LTD company, and we signed the data protection act.
If you still worried about sending the ID, i recomend you to use one of our reseller www.unlockitnow.com.
Regards,
IMEI-CHECK Team
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Unlockitnow.com are a reseller???..
Does anybody have any thoughts?
Thanks,
Dai
Hi there,
We had to introduce this protection to avoid people buying with hijacked accounts , because two weeks ago we cought one of the big scammers/phishers and now police is investigating this and paypal and ebay need (a much to long) time to investigate.
So to protect ourself we had to install this extra protection.
The seller is not getting any money if was used by hijacked paypal accounts. Even worse we have to pay GBP7 / reversed transaction...
To keep this service online we request something which proves identity of the paypal account holder. So the hijacker (which sold for 15GBP on ebay) will not have a chance anymore. We have to continue until police arrested this guy (full address and name are known)
Regarding paypal saying not to send anything is not true! Paypal says NOT TO SEND CREDIT CARD DETAILS OR BANK DETAILS (we never ask for them).
Also here is a quote from our paypal manager (when we said to them that we had to introduce this verification because PayPal don't protect us and our sells droped):
"If you conduct business on the internet, you should be putting processes
in place to minimise your risk as much as possible, so the id
verification is an excellent idea. As a business person, I presume you
weighed up the costs of losing out to fraudulent activity relative to
the drop in sales. These processes are your responsibility, not
PayPal's. PayPal enables you to transact quickly and safely with buyers,
they are not obliged to absorb losses you incur in doing so. Most
businesses factor in a percentage to cover these sort of losses
regardless of whether it is the physical or online environment."
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CREDIT CARD FRAUD IS A CRIME![/quote]
It kinda sells itself, but after losing $350 due to someone receiving my item, Delivery confirmation confirming it and PayPal still refunding their money, I have decided to make the transition to other means of accepting payments.
They have a failsafe method like PayPal (link), and they charge no fees, without having to use an unsafe "gifting" method.
It wouldn't be too hard to implement, and it would help those of us who want a safe method to pay without the unfairness of paypal.
agreed. Haven't used paypal in a couple of years, except when using a CC without logging in. No way I'd ever give them a chance after I got shafted on an ebay sale...
Can you give an example link to donate?
At the moment the system uses an e-mail address to build a PayPal URL. I don't know the limitations of the plugin we used for this, nor if we can implement it, but this info might help.
Thanks
Dave
Sure, It is outlined here. You need an amazon account, but once signed in, you go here
I think it would help people hesitant of using PayPal and their corrupt practices. You send money for free, and you have a net to protect yourself.
I've heard you mention this before, just checked out the website and looks like a good, viable alternative.
Do you know if it's a worldwide thing, or just limited to the US? Amazon won't ship anything to Australia, so I'm assuming this won't work with an Australian credit card or bank account. I couldn't see much relating to International users.
I like that there's no fees involved turnaround time on withdrawing funds to bank accounts isn't too flash though
juzz86 said:
I've heard you mention this before, just checked out the website and looks like a good, viable alternative.
Do you know if it's a worldwide thing, or just limited to the US? Amazon won't ship anything to Australia, so I'm assuming this won't work with an Australian credit card or bank account. I couldn't see much relating to International users.
I like that there's no fees involved turnaround time on withdrawing funds to bank accounts isn't too flash though
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Money transfer services are currently only available in the United States
quote from their site...
A shame, it looks a viable competitor to Paypal, and I'm sure many people would use it, given most people have bought from Amazon anyway.
pulser_g2 said:
Money transfer services are currently only available in the United States
quote from their site...
A shame, it looks a viable competitor to Paypal, and I'm sure many people would use it, given most people have bought from Amazon anyway.
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Cheers Pulser, must've had a 'boy look'
If it were International I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. Very much over paying PayPal's ridiculous fees and losing both money and phones. I'm out about $1700 thanks to PayPal.
Hopefully, it's only a matter of time...
Hey guys, i might be buying a note 2 very soon .. I was just wondering if any of u got it unlocked? If yes then HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND ..
Cellunlock.net offers it for 25$. Looking for some cheap alternatives !!
Call T-Mobile, and ask to have the phone unlocked. I had to fax them a receipt (a t-mobile one, which made no sense to me), along with my remedy trouble ticket number, and imei. They later sent me the unlock code. Free.
My store said they would do it for free after 30 days.
I paid the $25 because I didn't want to wait and I wanted to try it out on ATT.
i was thinking to buy a tmobile one and use it at my local network .. for that I need the unlock code .. 25$ is not what I am looking to spend ..
Again, it's free if you buy a t-mobile one and call their customer service to get the unlock code.
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Again, it's free if you buy a t-mobile one and call their customer service to get the unlock code.
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If they give you static, just tell them you plan to go overseas and need it unlocked for that.
I dont think they will give the code to a new contract !!
Tell them you are going out of the country, and if they won't budge contact me and I can get it unlocked for about $15.
Guys, chill out. There is really no need to be so concerned about unlock codes. I work for T-Mobile, and I want to offer some advice. Completely on my personal accord, not as part of my job with T-Mobile of course. Mind you, I will not do anything that violates any NDA or other agreement, contract, association that I have with T-Mobile, but I can offer the policy information, since it is not anything I wouldn't tell any other customer I talked to as part of the job.
Basically, if you buy a phone from T-Mobile you can get it unlocked, so long as you are at least 40 days into your account. Not contract, not tenure, but account. The account you are using the phone on has to have been open at least 40 days. You also have to have used the phone on that a line on that account. Meaning you made at least 1-2 minutes worth of phone calls.
Otherwise, assuming you bought it and do not want to use it on your account, you can send in proof of purchase that you bought it at full cost, or they can see on your account that you bought it. Phone purchases in store, just to address one earlier comment, do not always show the full receipt information (device, etc) and that is why a fax is required. Purchases made through customer care, online, or through telesales, are viewable through the proper phone team.
If you buy a phone at full cost and DO NOT have a T-Mobile account, you can get it unlocked by calling in and providing the imei number and they will submit the request. No faxing or any other hassle. Many agents are not aware of this exception in the policy because it does not come up all that often. So you may get someone on the line who is unaware and will swear up and down that it is not part of policy. I, personally, have had to spend time talking to managers who did not even know this part of policy. However, it is a part of a policy, and therefore is the easiest way to unlock the device.
There are other little minor things in policy, but most of what I have said is for the average buyer. Also, note that 'going overseas' is not any sort of exception to policy. If you do not meet the normal policy requirements, you could be going to the moon for all it matters and it would not be any reason to go outside of policy. The requests are completed by an offline team, and they are strict to policy. I have seen many customers get angry because "the store told me I could just call in and unlock it" or "I am going overseas in two days and that is why I bought the phone in the first place." If you say you are going overseas, then you will just be offered international roaming information for using T-Mobile overseas, or be told about cancelling your contract, paying any applicable ETF, and then getting the unlock request submitted in as part of the cancelled account part of the policy (which has its own set of requirements).
As a disclaimer I will say that while I work for T-Mobile, I am not writing this as part of any association with T-Mobile, and I do not condone any abuse of policy or misrepresentation in order to circumvent or manipulate policy. I also will not do anything outside of policy for anyone. I am unable to submit any unlock requests for anyone or call in for anyone or do anything of the such.
However, I do hope my advice helps.
The only real time to pay to get the device unlocked is if you just bought the phone at a discount, started a brand new T-Mobile account, and are under 40 days since activating your account.
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just to back phoenix up (thanks for the writeup btw) i've done this twice on Tmo
- 30+ days into my value plan and I requested the code for my s3, had it the next day in my email.
- paid full price for another s3, same thing, didn't have to wait at all, just called and requested the same day.
easy as pie.
Thanx phoenix... N other guys .. I will try to get it done from t mobile only ..
I purchased the phone outright from T-Mobile, did the fax thing the next day, and proceeded to wait about a week for the unlock team to get me my code. Glad I didn't need to have it with Solavei. Of course I found that out after the fact, lol!
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I purchased the phone outright from T-Mobile, did the fax thing the next day, and proceeded to wait about a week for the unlock team to get me my code. Glad I didn't need to have it with Solavei. Of course I found that out after the fact, lol!
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All carriers are required to unlock phones at the customers request, it was put into law a year ago or so. Same law that said jailbreaking/rooting is legal and cannot void a warranty. No one knows about it yet because it loses money for telecoms, but they can't refuse to unlock your phone because it is illegal to do so.
You do know there's a write up to unlock this phone for free right ?
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After spending an hour on the phone with Motorola, and being escalated five different times i finally spoke with someone who actually knew what they were talking about. The gentleman i spoke with said that there currently is no software available to unlock the BL for our Droid Turbo 2 how ever, they have my email on file and i was assured by the supervisor on duty for the tech dept that i would receive an email as soon as the BL unlock was available. So unfortunately unless the Devs here can find something, we are going to have to wait for Motorola to release there official unlock.
I will keep everyone posted here and as soon as i hear anything you will be the first to know.
I am curious, according to the FCC FAQ: "Your postpaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider after you have fulfilled the applicable service contract, completed the device installment plan or paid an early termination fee. Your prepaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider no later than one year after activation, consistent with reasonable time, payment, or usage requirements." It goes on to say that, "...providers have agreed to unlock eligible devices, provide you with unlocking instructions, or initiate an unlocking request to the device manufacturer – or provide an easily understood explanation of denial – within two business days of receiving an unlock request." For myself Verizon participates in the FCC's CTIA. My question stand has anyone gone through the formal channels with this and if so what was the result and if denied did they notify the FCC via their complaint section below the FAQ?
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/cell-phone-unlocking-faqs
http://www.ctia.org/policy-initiatives/voluntary-guidelines/consumer-code-for-wireless-service
My bloods curdling hearing the mear fact that we must talk to motorola's support...
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I am curious, according to the FCC FAQ: "Your postpaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider after you have fulfilled the applicable service contract, completed the device installment plan or paid an early termination fee. Your prepaid device is eligible to be unlocked by a participating provider no later than one year after activation, consistent with reasonable time, payment, or usage requirements." It goes on to say that, "...providers have agreed to unlock eligible devices, provide you with unlocking instructions, or initiate an unlocking request to the device manufacturer – or provide an easily understood explanation of denial – within two business days of receiving an unlock request." For myself Verizon participates in the FCC's CTIA. My question stand has anyone gone through the formal channels with this and if so what was the result and if denied did they notify the FCC via their complaint section below the FAQ?
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/cell-phone-unlocking-faqs
http://www.ctia.org/policy-initiatives/voluntary-guidelines/consumer-code-for-wireless-service
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this refers to carrier unlocking, say, moving a gsm locked phone from at&t to t-mobile. now with that regulation, most phones aren't locked any more, or are easily unlocked. does not affect the bootloader at all unfortunately
Man, the US cellular device market needs to be shaken up. ALL the OEMs need to band together - pull all devices from all carriers, make devices that're compatible with all carriers, and sell 'em at slightly over-cost through normal retail channels, IE: Walmart, BestBuy, Target, Amazon, Newegg, etc. Leave the carriers with nothing to sell but their service. No more locked-down devices. No more carrier lock-in.
I love my DT2, but every day that goes by without a 6.0 update, especially considering the kernel source is out, is a day closer to me buying an X Pure and selling the DT2.
Unless laws change, the carriers do NOT have to activate just any Ole phone that is compatible on their network... It in their best interest to usually, but if manufacturers tried to bully/strong arm them they could fix that very quickly...
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First day applied for Paypal credit and was given a credit line of 2750. Paypal credit never became an option while checking out. Now the 12 month financing is gone. 2nd day used my other paypal account and paypal credit is now an option but when I go to check out I continuously receive payment authorization failed. HTC and Paypal have no idea why this is but point fingers at eachother. Paypal advised me to wait another day. Now that I have waited the pre-order code is no longer valid... What? Why is this so complicated?
I was able up get the $100 off through the online chat so that is an option. As far as the 12 month, I was not allowed it for some reason. Wasn't even an option. Only 6 months interest free.
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The 12 months no interest financing really isn't available for HTC 10 at this preorder period. Believe me I tried. When I placed my order for the first time, 12 months no interest financing says you should select PayPal Credit option at checkout (options are debit/credit, PayPal Credit and PayPal) but I don't see that option, so I just selected PayPal at checkout, logged in and selected PayPal credit as payment method. Then when I received the confirmation I just got 6 months instead of 12 months. I tried to checkout other HTC products, HTC One M9 and RE Camera and I was successful in getting to select PayPal Credit option at checkout so before placing the order which I didn't, it's states that financing is 12 months not 6 months. I called HTC support 3x and they told me it's possible that the PayPal Credit option at checkout is only available after the preorder period. And I know that's unacceptable, why would they advertise that it's eligible for 12 months mo interest but can't really get that option when placing the order.
And just today I received an email from HTC support confirming the issue:
"Thanks for getting in touch with the HTC Online Store Support Team, I hope you are having a wonderful day!
I am very sorry for the long wait to give you a response! Actually, the reason why you do not see the 12 months PayPal credit option is because at this moment is not available yet, this is because the phone is still in the pre-order stage, but no worries! Once the phone has been released, the 12 months option will be available."
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PayPal got rid of the 12-month plus option months ago after their separation from eBay. The most you can get is 6 months interest-free. I have noticed all websites have not updated the current PayPal policy for many months. Unfortunately, six months is the max and many sites including HTC need to update their information.
Vendor customer service sites are not aware of it.
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markwebb said:
PayPal got rid of the 12-month plus option months ago after their separation from eBay. The most you can get is 6 months interest-free. I have noticed all websites have not updated the current PayPal policy for many months. Unfortunately, six months is the max and many sites including HTC need to update their information.
Vendor customer service sites are not aware of it.
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It would seem to be that PayPal Credit option now is a completely different checkout option to just PayPal, but still maintained by PayPal as a whole. It's just when you checkout using PayPal instead of PayPal Credit (if there's any from the merchant's website) you'll really just be getting 6 months no payments no interest. I tried checking out using PayPal Credit instead of Paypal with products like HTC One M9 and RE Camera and the PP Credit option is available with debit/credit option and PayPal and just right before placing the order, it states there that it's qualified for a 12 month no payments no interest financing.
Going slightly out of topic, I tried placing an order at Dyson's website and there is also PP Credit option available at checkout, but it's different with HTC. HTC got 12 month no payments no interest financing, but with Dyson's promotion, it has Easy Payments instead. 6, 9 and 12 month no interest terms, but you'll gonna have to pay each month depending on your items price with tax and shipping. And if you don't want the merchant's own PP Credit promotion, then just checkout with PayPal, and by doing that, you'll only be getting 6 months no payments no interest financing. So that's how I understood how PP Credit works now. It's now up to merchants/seller on how they want to customize the their promotion with PP Credit. I hope this made it clear for people getting confused with this whole PP Credit issue as I was a few days back then.
Maybe because the phone is still in the pre-order stage.You could contact to the HTC service.
Just got off the phone with Paypal and they told me the reason the payment wasn't going through is that even though I have a 2750$ credit line I signed up so recently the system wouldn't let me use it. If that isn't backwards then I don't know what is. Why give me a credit line if you don't want me use it. Should have given me a 50$ credit line so there wouldn't be this confusion.