Time to kill my Orbit and start again....
It's running painfully slowly and the GPS won't work so I'm going to hard reset my XDA and get rid of the O2 crap, then install TomTom. I know all this stuff is here somewhere but I’m up to my eyeballs in tech articles so…. Questions:
1. Should I upgrade the ROM, and if so can anybody point me to a suitable ROM image? If I do this should I unlock it first?
2. What's the best way of getting a clean install - is it to hard reset then soft reset before the O2 stuff loads? Or should I go for a cosporate install option (is this available for the Orbit) And how do I hard reset?
3. is there an easy way of setting up the O2 connection settings afterwards or do I have to do it manually?
Lots of questions and not enough time….
I have an O2 Orbit. Best thing to do is get it unlocked by imei-check. Then run USPL program from mobile6 forum. Makes it a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong at any time. After this you can flash the ROM to your hearts content. I use Black&Bluev3 and i can truly say that WM6 is amazing. To get a clean install just do a Hard Reset then when it boots back up, before the O2 customization routine runs just Soft reset. That's all there is to it. As far as O2 setting go. Have a look through the upgrading forum. There are usually a few postings of O2 settings. If not let me know. I have the HTC UK settings file on my PC. Anything else you need help with let me know.
Shand359 said:
I have an O2 Orbit. Best thing to do is get it unlocked by imei-check. Then run USPL program from mobile6 forum. Makes it a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong at any time. After this you can flash the ROM to your hearts content. I use Black&Bluev3 and i can truly say that WM6 is amazing. To get a clean install just do a Hard Reset then when it boots back up, before the O2 customization routine runs just Soft reset. That's all there is to it. As far as O2 setting go. Have a look through the upgrading forum. There are usually a few postings of O2 settings. If not let me know. I have the HTC UK settings file on my PC. Anything else you need help with let me know.
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Thats different to my understanding of things.
If you are thinking of upgrading the rom (instead of just hard resetting the phone) then you will need to either get your phone CID unlocked with the imei-check team or run the Artemis USPL application prior to loading the new rom file. The USPL program temporarily 'unlocks' the CID whereas imei-check does it permanently. Once you've done either of these methods (I ran USPL as didn't want to pay £40 when I could get it done temporarily for free) you can then flash any of the roms suitable for your phone. I've got an o2 UK supplied Orbit and went with Tom's Black & Blue v3.
When you load the B&B rom it writes over the extended rom so all of the o2 programs are cleared so no need to soft-reset once its been flashed. This way will give you a fully functional phone with a lot of preinstalled apps (all of which are useful if not essential in my opinion) and none of the o2 junk on there.
Your other choice is to hard reset the phone and once its finished it'll prompt you about customising your phone. Simply soft reset before it gets a chance to run the ext_rom and none of the o2 crap will be on there. Now your phone will be pretty much as it left the factory with WM5 installed and thats it. If you're in the UK using o2 then the attached cab file contains all the settings that you'll need for MMS and GPRS etc.
As for question 3, see my previous statement about the cab file. Very useful to keep this as I've re-flashed my phone a few times and it makes the process a whole lot more bearable trust me!
thanks for the valuable info - I'll try Black&Bluev3 once I unlock. Excuse the ignorance, but do I just run the copy the O2 cab file to the Orbit, then run it from there?
Yep, as simple as that Probably best to copy it to your SD card and keep it on there as once the phone has been reflashed you won't have to connect up to a pc to install the network settings.
everything seemed to have gone fine, but after restarting the phone won't recognise the sim - before i even had a chance to enter the pin 3 times it reported that it required the unlocking code, and then refused to accept the unlocking code once I'd got that.
So now I've got a very sleek PDA, but no phone Any idea where I can get an O2 ROM from as I can't see it listed in the Artemis list, and am I looking for a ROM or extended ROM (what is the difference anyway?)
TIA
Peter
The b and b rom your usings originates from the leaked o2 orbit german rom - changed to wwe by bepe and tweaked by tom. So firstly i would try a hard reset or reflashing the rom. You dont need to flash USPL again as its an os only rom. If still not working flash original wm5 rom - see sticky in artemis mobile 6 forum for the link.
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.
Xyberz said:
I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=27
and running into problems.
When the bootloader is trying to upgrade my SPL, it seems to to disconnect my phone from my computer in the process of upgrading. I've tried it over 10 times and the same result everytime. I've also done a master reset on my phone just ot make sure it's nothing that I may have changed in the settings.
Does anyone know what the hell is going on? I really want to upgrade my phone to WM6 and running into a problem already by just following the instructions given.
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Not easy to help you if you do not give more details... Are you running XP or Vista? Is it the first time you try to flash a rom (did it work already?)? Which version of Activesync are you using? Is your USB cable directly connected to a port of your PC or through a "long chain" of hubs?...
Nevermind, I finally got it. It doesn't state inside the instructions but here is some info to anyone new who has the same problem as I did.
Make sure to check your phone when the program will be searching your phone for info. You will need to give the program a "Yes" or "No" option on your phone. So watch out for that as it will save you a lot of heartache of the whole upgrading process.
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I'm trying to use HardSPL to upgrade my SPL on my AT&T 8525 from this link
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Ok well i want to flash to i think the Touch Flow 4.02 rom, however i want to know if it goes wrong how do i fix it? Can i download the rom from the O2 site their XDA Orbit update? and put in my serial an then if i have bricked it get it to load that?? or does that requre WM5 on their initially? If so can someone please tell me some instructions in order to if its bricked get it to bootloader an then be able to install with that O2 update? or can i just connect it an run the update? (Sorry i just want to know there is a way to fix it if it goes wrong an there doesn't appear to be any talk about going back to the factory firmware using the update?)
Any and all help apprectiated!
Thanks
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Ok well i want to flash to i think the Touch Flow 4.02 rom, however i want to know if it goes wrong how do i fix it? Can i download the rom from the O2 site their XDA Orbit update? and put in my serial an then if i have bricked it get it to load that?? or does that requre WM5 on their initially? If so can someone please tell me some instructions in order to if its bricked get it to bootloader an then be able to install with that O2 update? or can i just connect it an run the update? (Sorry i just want to know there is a way to fix it if it goes wrong an there doesn't appear to be any talk about going back to the factory firmware using the update?)
Any and all help apprectiated!
Thanks
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Hi reisyboy,
If you flash in a proper way (meaning; Use USPL to unlock your device every time you flash with a new ROM), you can always go back to the factory ROM supplied by your provider.
I have downloaded the official -updated- ROM of T-M... before I was going to flash my phone. At a certain time I didn't see any improvement with an other ROM and flashed back in no time to factory settings. I have not used USPL for flashing back to the factory ROM. If you are having trouble finding the official ROM, try to find it in the Artemis-WIKI. Very usefull.
Read these instructions very good and you are in business
Grtz and good luck!
Hi all
please dont flame the n00b. I have recently acquired my first smartphone the diamond and am very pleased with it. I have read through the threads and have developed my understanding of the considerations to make in flashing the ROM on my phone
I have an early version of the ROM as I received one of the first stock into the UK, which turned out to be grey imports from hong kong :S . I would like to realise some of the speed / battery / bugfix benefits of the newest ROM
however many of these threads are quite long , so i was wondering if someone could do me a favour by succintcly summarising the steps i would need :
my phone is runnning :
1.34.831.1 WWE - the unit is from hong kong i beleive, i have registered on HTC HK e-club
I would like to upgrage this is the latest signed UK ROM ?
If this is not possible can advice be given on going to the latest HK WWE ?
I understand this will involve changing the HARD SPL ?
Additionally can any method provided be confirmed as a reversible process should i need to invoke the warranty ?
thanks in advance for your help.
please let me know if you need any further information form me in order to help.
thanks
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer HK stock roms, they've been posted by tudispin I think.
3: flash
4: should need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
you should be able to flash back for warranty purposes.. safest thing is still to dump your current ROM (search the forums and wiki for how-to), but i think you'll be alright. You can check out my site for step-by-step instructions on how to upgrade your ROM
thanks so far
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
oh but
dump my current ROM before proceeding .. just in case
porkmince said:
just for help so far
your guide looks great racerx_
so i should be able to do the following tonight
1: install hardspl (unsigned)
2: search the threads for the newer UK? stock roms,
3: flash
4: and should the need arise, you can revert to stock spl, search the threads for spls by htchackers.
once the hardspl is loaded am i correct in thinking any ROM can be loaded ?
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yeah you should technically be able to load any ROM... if signed Hard-SPL, then only any signed ROM of course
hit a slight problem
So i am tryiong to HARD SPL. have gone through all the instructions but :
when installint the HARD SPL . the phone screen switches off the progress bar on PC sits at )% for about 20 sec it then accelerates to 100% very quickly within around 2 mins. It say that is is installed correctly
however the phone restarts and i can still see the d: as 1.34.00.00
so the loinex 1.3 has not installed
the windows is hard reset as i then have to go through the screen calibration
any help appreciated
HardSPL is not the ROM, just software to enable the update
once you installed HardSPL you should now be able to install a ROM
hi
yes sorry for the confusion in my past previous description. It is the HARD SPL software update which says that it is installed but isnt
i have not attempted to load another ROM until this is done first
any further advice ?
in essence when installing the olinex 1.30 i get no errors
bit it doesnt install and all i get is a hard reset ?
If it goes through OK, it has installed You don't see anything different in the splash screen- that just lists the basics
To confirm, go into Bootloader mode by holding down the Volume Down Key and at the same time pressing the red reset button at the mouth of the stylus silo. It can take a few goes, but will show a rainbow screen listing the SPL etc, which ought to say 1.30 Olinex, confirming the correct SPL flash.
Once confirmed press the reset button to restart.
ok thanks for step by step advice there
the HARD SPL is loaded version 1.30 I will try a new ROM now
i am trying the :
RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.37.707.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.26a.25.09_1.00.25.03_Ship
which is signed so should work
mmm even though the phone is synced up I get error
"262" when i try to install new ROM
it basically stalls on 0% for about 4 to 5 mins before it aborts with this error message.
i have searched the forums but cannot see a succinct plausible answer
hmm.. i thought that error was usually encountered with unsigned ROMs...
1) are you flashing with xp or vista
2) are you connected through a USB hub?
3) what EXACTLY are your steps for flashing this ROM
hi there
yeas flashing through vista 64 bit
and not using USB hub but direct connection
I downloaded the signed 1.37.401.3 Europe ROM linked from this forum and this installed fine
the improvement over the old ROM is immense. so far i am delighted by the results.
I am still perplexed as to why the asian ROM did not install still :S
only difference so far is that this EUROP ROM does not have the remote desktop app
thanks for all your help. I am going to test this ROM over the coming week, but unless there is a compelling reason to another ROM i will stick with this
Why HARDSPL when flashing HTC rom?
When using the newer 1.37 roms, you download the installer from e-club, make activesync conn en go for it?
A noob's point of view
I got my Diamond about two weeks ago, and since I'm new to PDAs and WM, I've done a lot of reading on the forums, wiki etc. At first things were quite murky for me and I know what my fellow noob here is feeling. So I thought I should share my experience (or lack there of) for the use of other noobs.
What I Know
HardSPL is needed in order to flash a cooked (non original HTC) ROM. As I understand, it is the equivalent of BIOS for PCs, mixed with a bootloader flavor. You need to first change this section of software first in order for the cooked roms to be accepted.
HardSPL comes in two flavours:
- the developer edition with which you can flash any type of roms (signed, unsigned, original) link: HardSPL dev ed
- the signed edition with which you can flash signed roms (original HTC, and cooked signed). The signed ROM versions give an added sense of reliability since they are tested. link: HardSPL signed the topic name was confusing for me at first
A list of signed ROMs: here
There are more than one "cooks" out there working in teams or otherwise. And more than one ROM you can flash. I did a lot of reading before I chose the one to use, I find user feedback the best measuring tool for quality .
Now for the flashing part
After you downloaded the HardSPL and the chosen ROM, you need to install ActiveSync. This is found on the CDs that come with the device, or downloadable fromo the M$ ****e aaaa site ActiveSync is a tool used for transferring contacts, e-mails and other outlook stuff if you use it, files, AND is needed for the flashing process. When installing, if you do not use outlook and do not like "syncronisation folders" on your desktop uncheck every "folder" option, you will be better off.
This site was very useful to me since it gave a detailed description flashing with visual documentation which (a bit uncomfortable to admit) was very helpful for me.
The HardSPL flash takes little time to complete and unless going into bootloader mode (vol down + soft reset) is completely transparent to the user.
The ROM flash takes longer 10 mins - they go by pretty slowly .
For safety reasons, I also downloaded an original HTC ROM just in case.
Because the flashing process once started SHOULD NOT be stopped there are a few things to consider:
- charge the battery
- firmly and directly (no hubs) plug the USB cable into computer and device.
- if you live in an area where power cuts are often consider doing the flashing on an UPS-enabled computer.
When the flashing finishes, the device will reboot and you will have to set-up again. If using TLRs ROM do not panic if you have to align the screen 6 times or so as I did. You will eventually get to the next step
What I don't know or am not sure of:
- when using signed HardSPL can I load an original HTC signed ROM? if so, is this enough in case of RMA issues?
- when reflashing with a newer/different ROM can I restore a back-up made with the previous ROM? I'm using sprite and I backed up everything, including what registry stuff it offered to. In this case, do i need to reapply the registry tweaks? dunno if sprite backs-up all the registry or just some of it.
Im must thank guys for this thread, i am minutes from going to the postal office to get my Diamond and this weekend has been full of information reading and program downloading, but the only thing i was a bit hung up on was this flashig buisness. Of course i know a lot about flashing ( Right about everything there is to flash ) but almost nothing about Phone Flashing
But i think i will try the version i get now first to see if i feel the need to update to anything else...
Hence my question is rather simple... How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
Reb0rn said:
How tha fack do i see what version i already have? >_< is it that (vol down + soft reset) thing? or am i way out of place?
thx.
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No, that is for HardSPL info. To see the ROM version, go to settings - device info and you'll see both ROM and radio.
I have tried unlockin my phone( rhodium TP2 Verizon) fresh out the box with no success then i activated my phone no success keeps telling me to download a cab and i make sure my phone is fully charged as well but i have noticed when i try WMDC exits why????? can anyone help all i want is the new manilla 2.5
First of all please be more specific. You are talking about Hard-SPL right? Then I suggest to go to the thread of hard spl and read the first post! The answer is in the first post. If you want to hard spl your phone and flash another rom then all you have to do is READ!