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I think that T-mobile is coming out with the Touch Pro 2 on July 22nd. If it does I want it so bad. My ONLY problem with the phone is the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I have a question for those of you that own a TP2- how do you like it? What don't you like about it?
My contract is up with T-mobile right now and I have the opportunity to go and get a G1 or wait for the MyTouch3g (aka Magic) or wait for the Touch Pro 2. what do you guys think that I should do?
Lastly, what kind of video recording capabilities does the TP2 have? & do you like the quality of the pictures it takes?
I never tried the touch pro 2 but my brother has a G1, and I dont know if you have used one but the keyboard on the G1 is... well I think not designed AS good as other HTC keyboards and I think it is much harder to type on, my brother thinks its fine but admits the one one the kaiser hermes and wizard ext. are better. Also the touch pro 2 has a bigger screen, and more RAM, so I would say the touch pro 2 is better, and I would say the G2 (magic) is basically a G1 without the keyboard, but also I am sure people will port android to the touch pro 2 and then you can have both wm and android although it probably wont be as good as if it came with it, but I prefer wm because it at least at this point is more customizable.
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I think that T-mobile is coming out with the Touch Pro 2 on July 22nd. If it does I want it so bad. My ONLY problem with the phone is the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I have a question for those of you that own a TP2- how do you like it? What don't you like about it?
My contract is up with T-mobile right now and I have the opportunity to go and get a G1 or wait for the MyTouch3g (aka Magic) or wait for the Touch Pro 2. what do you guys think that I should do?
Lastly, what kind of video recording capabilities does the TP2 have? & do you like the quality of the pictures it takes?
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The headphone jack's of no matter to me, because I'm happy with using blutooth headphones, although there are workarounds for the 3.5mm jack (use an adaptor).
I'm more than happy with the video recording. It's actually a huge improvement from my Kaiser. The still camera's also great, and the shots look super crisp on the quality screen, although the camera does fail in poor lighting, due to lack of flash
Seriously, why wait for T-Mobile when they're rumoured to be ditching the Vario V anyway? What's the point in getting an ugly T-Mobile branded model, when you can get a nice original, SIM unlocked, HTC branded TP2 with a T-Mobile contract from elsewhere? I don't understand why so many people are hanging on T-Mobile for the Vario V.
I'm also using a BT headset, the Motorola S9.
Works fine.
And I never want a branded phone, anymore.
T-Mobile is very sluggish whith upgrades, if any are produced.
And most of the time they rip out nice stuff.
I say: Don't do it, buy the real deal!
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I'm also using a BT headset, the Motorola S9.
Works fine.
And I never want a branded phone, anymore.
T-Mobile is very sluggish whith upgrades, if any are produced.
And most of the time they rip out nice stuff.
I say: Don't do it, buy the real deal!
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The problem is though that then I don't get 3G if I buy the unlocked version.
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I think that T-mobile is coming out with the Touch Pro 2 on July 22nd. If it does I want it so bad. My ONLY problem with the phone is the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I have a question for those of you that own a TP2- how do you like it? What don't you like about it?
My contract is up with T-mobile right now and I have the opportunity to go and get a G1 or wait for the MyTouch3g (aka Magic) or wait for the Touch Pro 2. what do you guys think that I should do?
Lastly, what kind of video recording capabilities does the TP2 have? & do you like the quality of the pictures it takes?
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Until i got a Treo Pro which has a built-in 3.5mm jack, i used to kid myself that it didn't matter, afterall USB dongles or BT headphones would suffice. That is until i never remember to pick up the USB dongle on the way out or forget to charge my BT headphones (also BT drains battery a it more anyway).
I find it so much better just to plug in headphones than dealing with dongles or BT headphones (which never sound as good, no matter how expensive).
To me the TP2 would be perfect, p-e-r-f-e-c-t, if it had a reg headphone jack and kept the f-l-a-s-h , but it's not a big deal in the end, though it's made me rethink getting one right now.
Now Android on the TP2 would be killer.
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I'm also using a BT headset, the Motorola S9.
Works fine.
And I never want a branded phone, anymore.
T-Mobile is very sluggish whith upgrades, if any are produced.
And most of the time they rip out nice stuff.
I say: Don't do it, buy the real deal!
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Most likely the unlocked version ("real deal") won't have 3G on the 1700 band. I'd say for the same price as an unlocked version, buy the T-mo version at full price (or renew with contract) and unlock in the future if need be. At least that way you get to use their 3G.
No one has to wait for T-mo updates, that's what XDA is for !!!
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Most likely the unlocked version ("real deal") won't have 3G on the 1700 band. I'd say for the same price as an unlocked version, buy the T-mo version at full price (or renew with contract) and unlock in the future if need be. At least that way you get to use their 3G.
No one has to wait for T-mo updates, that's what XDA is for !!!
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Thats what I was also thinking is the most attractive things about the TP2: is all of you guys. I'm glad that if I got the TP2 I wouldn't miss out on the customizations that Android offers.
I was thinking that the only other thing that would draw me to an android device though is when Google Voice comes out and Windows Mobile won't have the killer application that Android and Iphone users will have.
I upgraded from the original Touch Pro, and i have to say that i love my TP2. With my original TP, the video play back sucked, the gps never worked well, despite all of the tips in the forums, and the screen was tiny.
The TP2 has none of these issues (gps still needs tweaking, thank you XDA, but it actually works very well now), and more. The keyboard is great, the screen is gorgeous, the device isnt too big, and its much more responsive than my original TP.
The fact that it doesnt have a 3.5mm headphone jack isnt a big deal. Adapters are cheap and available and i just leave mine connected to my headphones. So its no problem.
The only thing now is that I see the Omnia Pro is going to be available soon... and i'm thinking that one might be better.... But regardless, i love my TP2 =D.
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The only thing now is that I see the Omnia Pro is going to be available soon... and i'm thinking that one might be better.... But regardless, i love my TP2 =D.
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hahaha that's what's so frustrating with technology. when we buy the '"next best thing", something even better than that comes out hahaha.
I'm gonna pick up my TP2 when it comes out on AT&T, and then save up and pick up the Hero.
Don't let the 3.5mm headphone jack bother you! TP2 is a great phone!
By the way: I know there are some mini USB to mini jack kabels, so maybe that will help?
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I love my Dash, and I'm not going to shun it away once I get a new phone. But I am with T-mobile right now and I'm due for a handset upgrade.
Do you guys think that I should get an Android phone (G1 or MyTouch3G) or the Touch Pro 2? I'm leaning towards the Touch Pro 2 which is rumored to come out on the 22nd of July for T-mobile USA.
I'm not a fan of Android. I woul definately go for the tp2.
Go for TP2!!
Have a look on rhodium section to see how happy users are
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Go for TP2!!
Have a look on rhodium section to see how happy users are
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Yea thats what I did but there aren't that many people on that section yet. I'm sure that it will grow though. The only problem I have with the TP2 is the 3.5mm headphone jack... Why htc, WHY?????
Ehh, I'd rather not have ANOTHER hole in my phone.
I have an adapter anyways so no biggie for me.
I expect to get in the day it's released for TMO, because I am also ready for an upgrade, unless of course, you know, PSP phone xD
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Yea thats what I did but there aren't that many people on that section yet. I'm sure that it will grow though. The only problem I have with the TP2 is the 3.5mm headphone jack... Why htc, WHY?????
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There are many experienced users, like beasty, have a look on his posts and threads.
Yes agree with 3.5mm very bad HTC
Anyway we are on Excalibur section
Android could be a good option in a few years, now is not mature yet...
As a Dash user (and previous G1 owner), I have some pretty strong feelings about the Android OS -- primarily that, in my opinion, it fails in several ways. For media, "schwanky-factor", and other non-essential purposes, it's likely better than a WM6.1 (or 6.5) enabled Dash. For things like making phone calls, Exchange support, and quick-usage, I would argue that the Dash is better -- even after all these years.
Here are some of my thoughts (from my blog):
http://yipcanjo.wordpress.com/tag/g1/
Having migrated back to my Dash a few months ago, I got to use my brother's (Cupcake-enabled) G1 about two weeks ago. I was instantly reminded of what I disliked about that phone. Android has a ways to go.
Personally... I'm VERY MUCH looking forward to the Touch2. Bring it on, T-Mobile! We're tired of waiting on you guys!!!!!
for me, it was about the price. Im not sure what the price point will be for the TP2, (guessing around the $249 to $299 range) but i just picked up a G1 from tmobile.com for an upgrade for $49.99.... w-no rebates. all instant savings yesterday! i told someone that for me ( cuz i've used the g1 first hand) the two phones are like two hot chicks that both want me.... either one i pick... i win!
I can't wait for July 22nd. I think that the Touch Pro2 is my best bet. However I wish that T-mobile will not change its styling. I really liked the chrome on the outside. Ugh, I hate it when carriers ruin stuff just to be 'unique'. I dunno, I won't know for sure until I go to T-mobile and try it out though.
And yipcanjo thanks for you blog post. I found it very informative.
Maybe HTC will blow us off our feet with their announcement tomorrow though, right?
Is there a reg edit to increase the volume of the on call volume?
Thanks,
Jeff
theres a cab file somewhere in the forums loudspeaker or something like that, which increases the volume dramatically
you're gunna have to look
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Is there a reg edit to increase the volume of the on call volume?
Thanks,
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Yea, it was weird, when I called my brother from my phone (He has a T-Mo cell phone) his voice was freakin loud and clear! But then when I called our house phone, I couldn't hear a freakin thing. Idk what T-Mobile did to this phone, but they really messed it up. And they messed up my stylus when removing my battery case. T-Mo doesn't give a sh*t about WinMo anymore (not like they ever did).
But otherwise, the phone is a good upgrade from my T-Mo Wing.
And hello everyone! I'm gonna be helping out the community, just like I did with the T-Mobile Wing. You can see what I did for them here: http://thewingster.com/
yeah in call volume sounds very muffled and low compared to the wing...
Same thing. Neither .cab or AudioPara file helps.
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Same thing. Neither .cab or AudioPara file helps.
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So, I've been searching and searching, and only found a raphael tweak that wouldn't work. Anyone found that cab?
My in call volume is fine. I am assuming everyone knows you can press the volume up button while on a call and it increases the volume.
Ace nice to see you you have a TP2...can't wait for you to start cooking.
ace10134 said:
Yea, it was weird, when I called my brother from my phone (He has a T-Mo cell phone) his voice was freakin loud and clear! But then when I called our house phone, I couldn't hear a freakin thing. Idk what T-Mobile did to this phone, but they really messed it up. And they messed up my stylus when removing my battery case. T-Mo doesn't give a sh*t about WinMo anymore (not like they ever did).
But otherwise, the phone is a good upgrade from my T-Mo Wing.
And hello everyone! I'm gonna be helping out the community, just like I did with the T-Mobile Wing. You can see what I did for them here: http://thewingster.com/
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sup dude!! was in the herald section also. I got my TP2 Monday... so far so good.
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Yea, it was weird, when I called my brother from my phone (He has a T-Mo cell phone) his voice was freakin loud and clear! But then when I called our house phone, I couldn't hear a freakin thing. Idk what T-Mobile did to this phone, but they really messed it up. And they messed up my stylus when removing my battery case. T-Mo doesn't give a sh*t about WinMo anymore (not like they ever did).
But otherwise, the phone is a good upgrade from my T-Mo Wing.
And hello everyone! I'm gonna be helping out the community, just like I did with the T-Mobile Wing. You can see what I did for them here: http://thewingster.com/
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Good to see you made the switch too. I was into the wing/herald forum as well. Can't wait to start modding.
I agree.... The in call valume is TOO LOW!!
I keep pressing phone against my ear. OR I have to switch to Speaker everytime I want to talk to someone. Please HELP!!!
Ok so with all you guys reporting problems and I am not I thought maybe I have been calling t mobile numbers as I can not remember who all is or is not on tmo. So I just called 5 different people who either are on Sprint, Verizon or land lines and my volume is very loud. In fact I could hear the other person without having to have the phone next to my ear. Not exactly sure why you all are having problems.
My touch pro 2 its good i can hear well the outside speaker sound clear and nice its not too loud like other phones i had but the quality its great doesnt sound like some cheap loud phone speakers
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Ok so with all you guys reporting problems and I am not I thought maybe I have been calling t mobile numbers as I can not remember who all is or is not on tmo. So I just called 5 different people who either are on Sprint, Verizon or land lines and my volume is very loud. In fact I could hear the other person without having to have the phone next to my ear. Not exactly sure why you all are having problems.
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No, it's known that the volume sucks. Maybe you have a non-T-Mobile version, but we know it's terrible. We know that. Plain and simple.
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No, it's known that the volume sucks. Maybe you have a non-T-Mobile version, but we know it's terrible. We know that. Plain and simple.
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Nope bought mine directly in person at a tmo store. Guess i will considered myself lucky and keep the fingers crossed that it does not all of a sudden get crappy.
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Nope bought mine directly in person at a tmo store. Guess i will considered myself lucky and keep the fingers crossed that it does not all of a sudden get crappy.
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I'll wish you luck too.
I'm thinking maybe a custom ROM might change something, but idk.
Maybe I should use this against T-Mobile for a barganing price on the phone, since I'm a "loyal customer", lol.
I have a T-Mo version TP2 and my incall volume is great. There is only one person I can barely hear on the phone and that's one of my friends but I couldn't hear him with any phone I have so I'm pretty sure it's his phone not mine.
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I have a T-Mo version TP2 and my incall volume is great. There is only one person I can barely hear on the phone and that's one of my friends but I couldn't hear him with any phone I have so I'm pretty sure it's his phone not mine.
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So I guess T-Mobile is distributing faulty phones to some of the users. Not sure how many got the crapy phones though, because only people with problems will complain.
Idk, it's just really weird how mine sounds fine with other T-Mobile customers. idk.
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yeah in call volume sounds very muffled and low compared to the wing...
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on mine, it's "muffled". Sounds like it either lacks highs... or it's too bassy.
I took my T-Mo TP2 to our local corp-owned store and had my wife call me from her cell; once on my TP2... then on the stores demo TP2 (with both volumes set to max). The audio qualities were identical to each other. So I know the problem is not with my specific unit.
Well to me yes the phone does have a little more bass incall then my last device but I can hear people just fine the volume is good to me. I actually like using the speakerphone more often then not anyways!
One thought though. You may try turning off noise reduction that may take care of that problem. Settings-->Phone-->Advanced tab
I can't say that will fix anything but it might!
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Well to me yes the phone does have a little more bass incall then my last device but I can hear people just fine the volume is good to me. I actually like using the speakerphone more often then not anyways!
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Speaker phone doesn't have the best sound quality, but that's aside the point.
My earpeice speaker is literally silent when talking to certain numbers. It's clearly a difference. And no other phone sounds that quite when talking to certain numbers, so it's the Touch Pro 2.
T_T I sold my Xperia for the Touch Pro 2. I love the TP2, but I also loved the Xperia!! How do you guys think I did.... was it the right choice? Will I BE HAPPY?!
yeah, i guess you'll be happy, i would. I'd also like the tp2, because of the larger screen and the better keyboard. except for that, both are nearly the same. i don't mind to trade with you if you miss the xperia, hehehe.
lol thanks for the reassurance
I did the same thing, sold my X1 for the TP2. Both are great phones, the X1 has some good points, as does the TP2. I do like the larger screen on the TP2 but miss the physical buttons from the X1.
If you're that attached to your X1, why'd you sell it?
I don't think you'll be dissapointed with the TP2, though.
kinda an odd thread, but its a tradeoff. i wouldn't say one is that much better than the other. the tp2 is the hot stuff right now, but i love physical buttons and i hate that the iphone made the rest of the world feel like buttons are so out of style. if i had the x1, i'd have kept it except that the tp2 from tmobile gives me my first taste of 3g for $5.99, so its clear cut. my gf got a hero yesterday and its slick, but man, 3g is nice...
I never sell a phone after I have bought it (I give away phones that I consider a p.o.s.). Wow that must have been painful. The X1 is nice my wife uses one she is so upset right now that she has to use my TP2 while she waits on her RMA. She adapted really fast to the difference in hardware but still complains about no d-pad. The TP2 is just taking off and since you are a member here I suspect you will enjoy the ROM's for the TP2 as much if not more than the X1. Since the TP2 is really popular right now all the goodies and focus is on it. So there is a big bonus!
P.S. look at it this way you can always buy another and start collecting them as junk electronics drawer accessories.
Yeah, I noticed the attention the TP2 is getting. Hopefully I'll adapt myself fine without the dpad!
I didn't know what the Xperia was so I googled it. Nice looking phone!
strange ha? , but i just hate htc for making such a great phone with a bad speaker,
everywhere i read i see that everyone is saying that the speaker is bad, and the earpiece volume is still something that i didn't get any confermation about its sound quality.
and the thing is i love android and i love the Sense interface, but i work in the most noisy place you can imagine and my current pro2 is really helping me a lot when it comes to sound quality esp from the earpiece.
i don't konw if i made the right decision i really love that phone, but i can't risk of having a bad earpiece.
what do you think? , should i wait and see the desire hd , or whatever will come by the end of the year with that 3.0 version of android , or just get myself the phone that i love?
I have the strangest suggestion for you: Try it out yourself!
So.. either give the sound quality a check with some demo unit in a store or something. If they don't have one, perhaps even ask if they can turn a Desire on for you so you can check the sound yourself.
Even better! Find someone (a friend, coworker etc) who owns a Desire. Then give the sound a try -right- at the place where you think it's important (e.g. noisy workplace).
Waiting for another phone or Android 3.0 could always be worth the wait. Who knows.. But there is absolutely no guarantee that the speaker/headphones will be better on that phone/those phones.
And since you don't really have any conformation about the earpiece quality yourself (and I guess you think it's really important), I think you should really give this a good test yourself.
Read: no matter what phone you buy, always check the quality yourself. Don't believe what others say. Perhaps someone else their quality standards is higher than yours, or they think other stuff is more important than you think.
well , you're very right, but the problem is that htc agent in Egypt is treating us like they are selling diamond , you can't try a device, if it's opened it's yours, and if you're lucky enough to find a demo device it's not for use with a sim card, you can try the software and everything except not making a phone call
even contacting the support is a night mare, as they are not authorized to speak their only job is to accept phones and send it to repair shops that belong to the agent , but they can't comment on anything.
even e-mail and phone support on the website , they don't provide any help at all
i don't have any freind who has the htc desire, and that's why i didn't try it
but don't you think that htc is really making no effort in providing us with better hardware.
i mean , why didn't they just make this phone with stereo speakers and aluminum body? and a 4inch display , simply cuz it's for the desire hd that's everyone is talking about
my point is i am begining to feel that these companies are really leaving problems in their devices , so we can think of upgrading our phones more often than we do
The speaker is indeed aweful, but I bought an x-mini capsule speaker and its better then any phone speaker I've ever used! Hope I helped.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
thanks , that was a lot of help
Not to mention the terrible touch screen and the ****ty AMO led. I'd say wait
Terrible touch screen and ****ty amoled? R u mad?
Headphone sound quality is fine for me too.
now that's news to me , i didn't hear anyone complaning from the screen , what's wrong with it?
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now that's news to me , i didn't hear anyone complaning from the screen , what's wrong with it?
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strange ha? , but i just hate htc for making such a great phone with a bad speaker,
everywhere i read i see that everyone is saying that the speaker is bad, and the earpiece volume is still something that i didn't get any confermation about its sound quality.
and the thing is i love android and i love the Sense interface, but i work in the most noisy place you can imagine and my current pro2 is really helping me a lot when it comes to sound quality esp from the earpiece.
i don't konw if i made the right decision i really love that phone, but i can't risk of having a bad earpiece.
what do you think? , should i wait and see the desire hd , or whatever will come by the end of the year with that 3.0 version of android , or just get myself the phone that i love?
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if ur from the UK then order one via phone from tmobile and you get about 8 days to return it so you got 8 days to test it
The speaker is ok the problem is the placement of the thing... it's in the back of the phone making it less audible.
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The screen might be a personal thing. Personally I love the amoled screen, very nice to watch movies etc And the touchscreen is also very nice, very sensitive.
Guess supasye means the somewhat (possible) purple hue and the multitouch bug (which you probably never going to notice with normal usage).
My screen was very purple, so I've send it back for repair. Unfortunately the replaced device has some weird problem with the touchscreen (gets less responsive after some time, will be replaced now as well).
But as far as I can gather that's all an exception. I have multiple friends with a Desire and those all work perfectly. I can't wait until I get a new Desire back, and can start enjoying the device again!
As for output quality, I think it's perfect for normal usage. You can always buy some better quality headphones or something.
But then again, my standards are not that high for this. I don't use headphones that much and when I play music it's usually over bluetooth (in the car).
thank you all for sharing your opinions
like i was saying , my point is that i feel that htc is becoming more and more a monopoly player with no competition to face it.
it's like the story of lamborghini and ferrari , i see htc as the ferrari but i want a lamborghini
i see lots of people saying that the speaker does not work well , yet i don't see any actions from htc worldwide to improve it , much like apple with its phone antenna problem.
it's like those big companies refuse to say that they did something wrong , or even try to fix its problems.
htc in egypt is very bad in customer service , that's why i read a lot of reviews so i can make sure that i am buying the right headset.
sadly i can't buy the desire from outside Egypt for two main reasons, one it will not have arabic , my language, and two i will pay about 30% as taxes and customs.
moreover i get the feeling that once i buy the desire , a new model will be released with everything corrected, which makes you think , did they make such mistakes on purpose?
i don't like paying lots of money for my phone , and i don't like upgrading unless i am convinced that there's a real value being added.
but with all the great things that i see in the desire, i feel that waiting will be better due to that fact that i feel that htc did on purpose make the desire with speaker problems and 3.7 screen , so they can sell the next desire with a 4 or 4.3 screen and a stereo speaker.
I don't believe they create 'bad devices' on purpose, just to sell more of the next generation. E.g., put a crappy speaker in product X and then improve a bit for product Y. As a setup plan to sell more product Y devices. Although.... with some of the HTC products in past I'm not so sure lol
What HTC does, and has been doing for all along really, is create a nice device. And with almost the same internals and technology, bring a slightly improved version of that device on the market later (a bit like your example with a Desire, and then later a Desire HD).
HTC pushes out lots of models. When you buy one, a somewhat more improved version of that model will be out in a few months. And perhaps another one after that.
Then a new 'generation' devices will be release, and the same thing happens.
It's a proven and working strategy which seems to work very nicely for HTC. If you wait for the 'Desire HD' with bigger screen and stereo speakers, by that time something else is already around the corner.
However! Since those things cost quite some money, you have to be really sure it's what you want. So if you are not too sure about the Desire and actually rather wait for the 'next Desire', it's a good thing you can wait.
Not too many people (including me lol ) have the ability to remain calm and wait. Although I'm glad I bought the Desire when it came out. I just have to restrain myself to wait until the 'next generation' of HTC models
Do you specifically mean the loudspeaker sound quality and/or sound volume loudness?
As to the latter, maybe the end of this page will help somewhat: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3826/motorola-droid-x-thoroughly-reviewed/19
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I really love my Desire and I have had no problems with it but I guess there are some faulty models out there too.
If the loudspeaker is important to you, I'd wait for a new model. Desire's loudspeaker is the worst one I've ever seen. If you have no way of testing the device yourself there's an easy way to try it home: just buy the cheapest earplugs you can find, cut off the other earpiece, plug them to any source of audio and maximize the volume. That's what the loudspeaker sounds like, or maybe even worse.
The earpiece is not good either but it does it's job. I often have to ask people to talk more clearly because I can't hear what they are saying due to the poor sound quality.
But for HTC's defense I have to say that the bundled handsfree earplugs are very good and the sound quality of them is impressive. So if you're going to go with Desire, I'd advice you to either use the bundled handsfree or buy a better one yourself.
i disagree that htc does not use the idea of making bad devices so it can sell better ones later
look at the tytn 2 then pro one then pro2.
they make a great phone then instead of improving it they make a bad one , then they improve it again in the exact way it was supposed to naturally evolve.
( and by the way i used all of the three mentioned phones)
but look at the tytn one then the 2 , now that was a better upgrade , and worth the money too.
now as i was saying i am not going to buy the desire, although i love the os and the sence interface, but the speaker quality and the idea that i can't try the phone till i buy it makes it just a risk that i don't want to take , so i will wait and see what the coming days will bring us with new models.
i thank you all for sharing thoughts , opinions and ideas, they were really a lot of help
It's not that the loudspeaker is bad (it isn't), it isn't _very_ loud. It is certainly loud enough to hear the ringtone though.
As for the earpiece quality, I think it is quite good (better than iphone 3G/3GS, a bit worse than Nokia N81). I've heard from people some background hiss/buzzing may occur on 3G when the signal quality is very low. on Edge it works perfectly and quite clearly.
The included earbuds are not the worst I've seen either. They sound fine, look good.
But since I like the earcanal type, I went ahead and got me a pair of Creative EP-630i's, much better noise isolation and bass obviously. I should note that Desire is compatible with earbuds made for iphone just fine (mic and button works as it should).
I'd get a Droid X, if you can get your hands on it. If only for resizable widgets. But extra screen space, noise cancellation², HD recording and a gorgeous 8M camera with panoramic mode make me gush too.
i think that it won't have the great sence interface which is one of the main features that makes me love the htc desire,
but you know , waiting for that rumered desire hd seams to be a good idea after reading all of your opinions