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Where to go from here after GPS Upgrade

Ok, this might be a bit of a newbie question but since I am doing this months after everyone else I am looking to learn from those who have gone before
I finally got tired of waiting for Bell to release an official upgrade for the HTC Touch that would enable the GPS. So after months of waiting I finally went the DHarvey route carefully following the popular and often referenced instructions found on PPCGeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
Anyway, long story short, I upgraded my Bell Touch with the Alltel firmware to upgrade the radio. Then I flashed NFSFAN’s "Non-Themed ROM" found linked in the same thread.
Now apparently the GPS is working but I don’t know if it ever gets a “lock”. If I use the GPSViewer app it never gets a fix. In Google Maps the “My Location” feature works (when checking off “Use GPS”) but it is always off by several kilometers. I am in Burlington, Ontario and am trying this outside on a beautiful 27 degrees clear sky day.
Should I be upgrading to an even newer radio version? Or should I be looking at a different ROM (other then the NFSFAN’s Non-Themed ROM)? Do I have to specifically look for “made for Bell” ROM’s? Or can I use any ROM?
Is there a ROM out there that stands up as “the” best ROM for the Bell Touch? Could the ROM I’m using have adversely affected by reception? As in everything works (calls, internet, etc) but instead of getting 3 bars I now get 1 or 2? Or is this my imagination?
Basicly, now that this has been around for several months is there something new I should be looking for? Now that I have broken out of the “must run Bell’s firmware” mode where do I go from here? The possibilities seem endless and exciting.
Best regards,
The Fish

Check my signature for the link to "Touch Tips"

No GPS Verizon XV6900 (Vogue)

Oh kay... I really hope I don't get yelled at for not searching or something but I can't find anything and I seriously need help. I have the 3.42.50(I think) radio and OMJ's Custom Verizon Rom and I just can't get a lock. I've tried thousands of tutorials and haven't had any luck. On my current flash I've used this tutorial, and haven't gotten a lock. I don't know what I'm doing wrong... I'm pretty desperate. ANY help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance...

First, to make sure you have the updated radio (which you probably do) go to start/settings/system/Device Information and check there to make sure.
I wish I had had such a detailed set of instructions to follow when I was setting up my US Cellular Vogue. I had to patch together instructions from 3 different sources to make it work. Of course it works, yours doesn't. Are you outside when you are trying to get at least your initial lock. When I first lock on I generally have to be outside, after it is once locked on I can go inside and it will retain a lock.

Check for my Tips thread, basic info on setting it up is there.

Bogy54 said:
First, to make sure you have the updated radio (which you probably do) go to start/settings/system/Device Information and check there to make sure.
I wish I had had such a detailed set of instructions to follow when I was setting up my US Cellular Vogue. I had to patch together instructions from 3 different sources to make it work. Of course it works, yours doesn't. Are you outside when you are trying to get at least your initial lock. When I first lock on I generally have to be outside, after it is once locked on I can go inside and it will retain a lock.
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oh kay... sorry for the delayed response... anyway... i do have the updated radio and i dont think i've ever tried it outside... :-\ i have tried it standing right next to a glass door... also, should i be messing with the baud rate at all while trying to get a lock?... im not sure wat to do after i open GPS Viewer... i set the Com port to 4 and then i open GPS... is that all i have to do?...
and... can u send me a link to those tips TheChampJT? im bad at navigating forums... :-\

Have you ever run the MR1 on your phone? This would block third party apps from accessing your gps. If this is the case, you need to down grade to a none gps rom, the upgrade.
take a look here
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS

kmanuel74 said:
Have you ever run the MR1 on your phone? This would block third party apps from accessing your gps. If this is the case, you need to down grade to a none gps rom, the upgrade.
take a look here
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
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I might have... would a radio version be able to tell u if this is my problem?... my radio is currently 3.42.50... I did notice my radio version changed after the update so i just used cokes rom to flash it back and started using another rom...

If it came with verizon WM 6.1 or you flashed verizon WM 6.1 and let costumizations run, then you found your problem. Maybe if you tell use what you have done with it since you got it, it might be easier to diagnos.

kmanuel74 said:
If it came with verizon WM 6.1 or you flashed verizon WM 6.1 and let costumizations run, then you found your problem. Maybe if you tell use what you have done with it since you got it, it might be easier to diagnos.
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well... i cant really remember... i really dont want to reflash... i have everything i want the way i want it :'( lol... anyway... ill try reflashing using those instructions and ill report back here in a few...

I used this reported "Leaked Official Verizon Rom". IT WORKS!
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Verizon/RUU_Vogue_VZW_WWE_3.14.605.1_Radio_3.37.77_Ship.exe
You run it and allow it to customize and wahla...updated WM6.1 and the GPS works!
Gps has to be configured to use Com 4.
Use HTC Titan Quick GPS to updated satellite empiricals (GPS position data). I get cold fixes in 15 seconds indoors! Download it from: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4914&d=1201747040
You will have to do a "Over the Air" reprogram via *228, I think its option 2.
I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS WITH THE NEW ROM AND EASY AS PIE TO INSTALL!
Darn GPS is pretty dam close. I get 29foot accuracy 98.5% of the time!

ozzzzzzz,
did you change the location setting under phone settings? I forgot to check this and finally figured to look there.
Go to settings / personal / phone-----then hit services and select settings for location. Make sure that 911 is not selected. May be simple issue with that.
GL!

aGPS on Verison w\Radio 3.37.78 and NFSFAN's Cusom WM6.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=939180
KCDale99 Posted this, couple weeks ago, it still works people.!!!!!!!!........
I justreceived a new XV6900 in the mail today when mine suffered a hardwarefailure of some sort. The new phone came with the newest ROM whichincludes the 3.37.78 radio. Of course I turn on the phone, and updatesrun. This disabled the GPS even after loading a custom ROM. the aGPSfix would not work, and gps Viewer couldn't even find one satellite.
Ifigured this was just like an old, 'let the customizations run'problem. So I followed the steps found here with one exception:
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Onstep 4, I ran the RUU_Vogue_VZW_WWE_3.14.605.1_Radio_3.37.78_ShipOfficial ROM from Verizon. I did NOT let customizations run. I thenloaded my custom ROM. This puts me on the official Verizon radio.
After that, the aGPS fix worked like a charm and GPS is working.
Iknow this is a rehash of other issuew, but I wanted to let everyoneknow that the newest phones shipping are disabling GPS all together.
THIS STILL WORKS PEOPLE!!!!!!! been at this for a week now with absolutely no luck until now this guy has it.................. 5-31-09
I used NFSFAN's custom ROM WM6.5v8 for my custom rom.
the only other thing i had to do is when i was done installing ROM's my phone would not authenticate on Verizon network, so instead of calling them i use the online MY Verison to activate my phone to a old Verizon i760 then re-activated my xv6900 online ordered (verizon) a week ago !!! I have tried every fix, etc... until this combo... except i never went to the leaked verizon radio been to the bell, us cellular, alltel, verzon, etc... and back again..... now it works...... with the fix this guy posted......QPST ip info fom the fix page, links all seem to work!
Again********THIS STILL WORKS PEOPLE
XV6900 CAME STOCK ABOUT A WEEK AGO!!!

YOur first link is to reply to another thread, your second link takes me to the wiki main page, so no information on both whatsoever....

No GPS in Google maps
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?

novafreak69 said:
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?
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I'm with this guy... Except, I'm worse off. I can't even get a lock in GPS Viewer. It finds the satellites, but does not lock.
I did whole unlock 0.40 to Sprint ROM to unlock 2.31 to VZW ROM, then straight to WM6.5V12, then I did the aGPS hack with QPST, and even tried cody's fix in his FAQ thread. I spent all yesterday morning trying to get GPS working, and I've got nothing to show for it. I'm so f'n pissed right now!

fiktion said:
I'm with this guy... Except, I'm worse off. I can't even get a lock in GPS Viewer. It finds the satellites, but does not lock.
I did whole unlock 0.40 to Sprint ROM to unlock 2.31 to VZW ROM, then straight to WM6.5V12, then I did the aGPS hack with QPST, and even tried cody's fix in his FAQ thread. I spent all yesterday morning trying to get GPS working, and I've got nothing to show for it. I'm so f'n pissed right now!
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When you flashed VZW ROM, did you allow customizations to run?

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When you flashed VZW ROM, did you allow customizations to run?
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Nope. The only time I let customizations run was when I installed WM6.5.

I did the Coke .40, Sprint (no-run), Coke 2.31, Verizon (no-run), NSFANS WM6.5 (run) and then his two verizon cabs and finished with the aGPS hack with QPST. I used the Telus fix, but should I have used a different one?
I was able to get GPS (with locks after a few minutes outside). I don't think I am getting aGPS, though.
Doesn't aGPS help when you are moving or inside? I think that you would get faster locks (especially the first time) if aGPS is working.
BTW, that routine killed my voice line and SMS with a #8899 notification. Verizon networking is still working.

Todd you'll have to call Verizon and have them re-authorize your phone. The same thing happened to me when I tried that fix.

thejkro said:
Todd you'll have to call Verizon and have them re-authorize your phone. The same thing happened to me when I tried that fix.
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I will. That office is closed until Sunday. While I am waiting I am trying other methods and options.
I am currently on a Coke .40, Verizon ROM 3.14.605.1 Radio 3.37.77 (no-cust), Coke 2.31, Verizon ROM 3.14.605.1 Radio 3.37.77 (w/cust) followed by QuickGPS. This lets me see satellites and gets me fully back on a Verizon radio. (I will still have to call #8899 when their office opens)
Can anyone match up ROM versions with the MR1, MR2 designations? Is 3.37.78 MR1?

novafreak69 said:
I have done all the upgrades.... done the sprint ROM to the VZW to now running NSFANS WM6.1 for VZW 1.15.
I get Sat locks in the GPS Viewer but not in Google Maps... anyone have any ideas?
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first you should run gps veiwer and get a lock before you open google maps.
second go to options/gps settings in google maps and set to managed by windows. that should work

GPS...help a noob??

First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.

What PRI version do you have? Check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509696 Hope this helps. Timmay!!!

PPCNoob2779 said:
First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.
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Radio and ROM should be fine, but 2 questions first though
1 - What carrier are you on?
2 - In your reference to GPS, are you actually attempting locks on JUST GPS or do you have a data plan with your carrier for a faster aGPS/GPS lock?
No data plan, no aGPS though GPS will still work it will take a long time to get any locks
Detroit Doug

carrier - vzw.
specific gps plan (like vznavigator) no. regular data plan - yes.
Phone doesnt show a PRI at bootup.
on the left, I have M 03 and B 01
on the right, DCAAXOM-4350H
R: 3.42.50
D: 3NFS
I'll read the linked thread regarding PRI. Thanks -

PPCNoob2779 said:
carrier - vzw.
specific gps plan (like vznavigator) no. regular data plan - yes.
Phone doesnt show a PRI at bootup.
on the left, I have M 03 and B 01
on the right, DCAAXOM-4350H
R: 3.42.50
D: 3NFS
I'll read the linked thread regarding PRI. Thanks -
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OK, also go read the FAQ posted HERE that is built around NFSFANs ROM and has lots of info on fixing the GPS issues directly with VZW users
Detroit Doug

Nevermind....it works. I just had to let it sit for a good 15 minutes under clear skies to get it to go.
If its any use to anyone, I didnt need any registry hacks, installation of different gps apps, nothing.
My 6900 out of the box had a 1.x radio in it. I let initial customizations run and activated the phone.
I unlocked with Coke 2.31
threw in the Bell 3.42.50 radio
and then flashed w/ NFS 1.13. Opened GPSViewer, and got red satellite dots. Opened Google maps and just let it sit. It took forever, but finally it hooked up. Works like a champ. I was just being impatient...my bad. Let it sit for a painfully long time and it'll link up.

Did the same no GPS lock!
PPC NOOB- I id the same excpet flashed with NSFans's WM6.5. No GPS...I followed all the instructions on the thread as well! anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Verizon xv6900
Radio: 3.42.50
Rom: See above

I posted this in another thread, this is what I did compiling different methods to get GPS to work, and this here works for me.. every now an then I might get bouts of 30-60mins not working but normally it works.. sometimes 1min to get a lock, sometimes 5-10.. but once its on it tends to stay and be on point
This guy has the right idea here ---> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
I had been searching for WEEKS.. I'm freshly in my NFS6.5 V7 with no customizations ran other than NFS's, I went and did what the guy said at ppc geeks, except I didn't install the gps registry cab he tells you to..
In both QPST and the registry [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS] I did this
PDE IP Address = 66.174.95.132
PDE Port Number = 8888
(Only QPST)PDE Transport = IP
(Only QPST)Position Calculation = mobile
with GPSMode: 4
**** works beautifully..
in google maps i DONT let it automatically find GPS, i put it to com4 4800..
i get about 5-6 active, occasionally going upwards around 7-8 but no more, works for me
although im currently looking for another gps program to use, google maps isnt bad but i wanna see if theres better free ones out there, if anyone has suggestions please let me know

PPCNoob2779 said:
First Post - been a lurker, finally signed up.
Got a 6900, first thing I did was unlock with CoKe 2.31
next, radio 3.42.50
didnt allow any customizations to run
Then flashed with NFS 1.13
Works great, love the rom but......
No Gps. the radio that came on the phone was 1x. I have read through a ton of posts regarding all the various trials and errors getting the gps to work. has anyone RESOLVED the issue? Everything went smooth and everything else on the phone works great....did I just run a bad combination of radio and rom? Thanks in advance.
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Did you let the customizations run when you first turned on the phone? If so then that is your problem.

jadesse said:
Did you let the customizations run when you first turned on the phone? If so then that is your problem.
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What if I did let the customizations run? Then what do I do?

GPS on Telus Touch

I haven't gone through that GPS fix on my telus Touch. If I upgrade to NFSFAN's rom, will the GPS start working or do I have to do something else?

ipassgas said:
I haven't gone through that GPS fix on my telus Touch. If I upgrade to NFSFAN's rom, will the GPS start working or do I have to do something else?
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You can have GPS working if you simply install the stock 6.1 ROM available on htc.com here
I have to say tough that NFSFAN's WM6.5 ROM is great and transforms your phone into a much better device, so if you are up to it, unlock your phone and flash NFSFAN or any 6.5 custom ROM .

Do as socrate said for GPS. That should work. Back when I unlocked my GPS on my Verizon Vogue, it took a lot of crap to get it working, so hopefully just flashing the stock 6.1 ROM from HTC will work.
And, to answer your question from the other thread, as long as you've ran Coke's unlocker, you should be good to go. To check to make sure it worked, go into bootloader mode by pressing power+camera+reset button all at once. If it says 2.31 Coke, you're good.
You'll be good to go now to install NFSFAN's 6.5 ROM. Just download it, put your phone into bootloader mode, connect it to the USB, it should change from Serial to USB. Run the RomUpdateUtility that's included with NFSFAN's .zip. Go through the steps, and once it's done, it'll reset and boot (slowly) into 6.5.

Should the HTC flash activate the GPS on its own, or will I have to do that complicated "GPS Fix" that people used to have ot do for the Telus Touch using the ESN number, etc..

I'm not sure. Flash the HTC ROM and find out. It's not big deal. Just flash it, download Google Maps, and see if you get a lock outside. Make sure, though, that you turn on location in the phone settings.

My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...

mamm7215 said:
My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...
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I was finding this as well on my Bell touch, but I was indoors while checking. Once I took it outside walking, it picked it up quickly. Worth a check.

WnG88 said:
I was finding this as well on my Bell touch, but I was indoors while checking. Once I took it outside walking, it picked it up quickly. Worth a check.
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Same way with mine, too. I just stood near a wall of windows in my house and it locked on pretty quickly. If I'm anywhere else in a house/building that's not near windows, it takes some time to get a lock.

mamm7215 said:
My GPS on Telus with 6.5 is veeerrryyyy slow to connect to satellites. Takes up to 5-10 minutes. Used to lock on in seconds with 6.1 Nothing I do (and I've tried ALL the fixes) seems to work. Could be my device is broken too, but I'm not the only one experiencing this...
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Hi there. A couple friends of mine have the Touch on Telus as well (mine is on Bell). I upgraded their's to the Telus GPS firmware update and could never get the GPS working. I contacted Telus and eventually figured out that they had to have the “Telus Navigator” service on their account and then the GPS only worked from within some special Telus apps that came loaded in the firmware update.
I unlocked one of their Vogues with the CoKe SPL and then flashed the official Bell update. The GPS worked perfectly.
Long story short: I think the Bell ROM is the best way to get your Vogue GPS enabled. Use it first and then flash a custom ROM like NFSFAN's or some other.
The Fish

Well I'm using nfsfan's latest and I can tell you I've tried everything and it takes a looong time to lock satellites. They show up pretty quick, but the lock takes forever and it didn't used to. I noticed that I have radio version 3.41.0, I downloaded 3.42.40 but I can't seem to find a definitive guide to flashing just the radio. Anyone know how?

Verizon XV6900 Flashed ROM GPS takes long time to lock

I have the HTC Touch (Verizon XV6900). I know it's an old one but I never had a need for GPS til now. I followed the instructions here http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html as they were the simplest I could find to install a custom ROM and unlock the GPS. However, I find that the GPS takes a really long time to lock, several minutes at least. Trolling through several forums I see links to this url http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix which supposedly contains information to make your GPS lock faster but that page doesn't exist and not even google could resurrect it.
Can someone point me to a new page or post a set of instructions which I could follow to try and speed up my GPS locks?
I don't know if this matters or not but after I flashed the custom ROM and booted the device, as the OS was coming up the customizations DID run. It ran and was pretty much complete before I knew what was happening. I mention that because some threads say don't let the customizations run.
I'm using GPSViewer (included w/the ROM) to get the lock and I don't have a data connection to use to lookup satellite locations on the net.

Now can't get a GPS lock period
Am I way off-base here or is this in the wrong forum? I was looking around yesterday and found a forum for the HTC Vogue under legacy devices (hadn't seen it before) so I can move it there if needed.
On another note, I did some more research and it seems that AGPS requires a data connection. Hope someone can confirm or deny that.
But AGPS aside, I've probably gotten a GPS lock only 3 times since I've flashed it on Friday and for the past day and a half when I try to get a lock I see no activity.
At this url dawkins.50webs.com/phone_screens you can see screenshots from the GPSViewer app on the phone. It will stay like this until I finally give up and quit after a few hours; doesn't matter if I'm indoors or out.
Just looking for some suggestions here. Should I reflash the ROM? a different ROM? radio? to a new radio? and what about customizations?

How did you get them to lock. I am on the same boat as you. Didn't need the gps till now. can you tell me the exact steps you used that is getting you to lock the gps? and are you outside when you get a lock. or you get locks everywhere? and what is your agps ip? I pick up satellites but no lock. I also have data plan so this sucks.
I flashed back to sprint rom with no gps then verizon rom then custom rom the gps is unlocked but can't get them to lock.
and then http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-titan/36377-alltel-gps-gps-super-fast-lockon.html
my radio is 3.42.50
called htc today all the settings seems fine
Called verizon they told me they can not give the agps setting because this phone is made to only work with vznavigator.