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WM2005 on a Blue Angel

I have a Blue Angel as mentioned in my signature and I have what I believe are all of the files needed to try and install WM2005 Build 14326.0.0.0 onto it.
Here are the WM2005 files I currently have:
HimaUpgradeUt - 512KB - 5/5/2004 4:54PM
nk.nbf - 32,769KB - 3/21/2005 9:08AM
And the following came from my existing ROM:
ms_.nbf - 16,833KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
radio_.nbf - 4,097KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
I also have a good copy of ActiveSync Beta 4.0.0 and have all of the instructions that were made in the main WM2005 post for installing on the Himalaya and I'm assuming it should be the same for the Blue Angel.
My device info currently reads:
Model No: PH20A2
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 Build 14132
ROM Version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/13/05
Radio Version: HA00_140
Protocol Version: AA3.3.301
ExtROM Version: 1.36.110 WWE
Hardware Version: 0041
This is what it came with out of the box, I have not installed the updated ROM Audiovox released the day the phone was released because I have never had a single problem and some people who upgraded reported problems and that some files were a day older than the version that shipped in the original ROM.
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Now my 1st question, the newest updated ROM installer package from Audiovox which was released 3/4/2005, has a different version of the upgrade utility, it's called "HaUpgradeUt - 424KB - 12/23/2004". The package it was included in from Audiovox's website was called "HA_SPCS_13600_113_00140_6600". Which upgrade utility is the best to use or does it not matter?
Now my 2nd question, has anyone yet tried this on a Blue Angel? Is there anyone here who really knows thier stuff who is willing to help me if I get lost or screwed up so I can be the Blue Angel WM2005 test pig?
Thanks!

hi
i have a pda2k with 1.33 rom and radio rom 1.08 and my cooked rom
i tried the upgrade but got the device authentication error.. tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.. the himupgrade starts the procedure and then stops after some time saying an error occured..
but you go ahead and try it..may be you will do something differently and will succeed..
note: i have tried the xda 2 SE rom and imate jam rom and almost tried the alpine rom on my pda2k.. there is nothing you cannot revert back from
just incase if you are curious what happened after the above roms..my device didnt boot.... no problem...just unplug the usb port of the cradle and run a wwe rom made for xda 2s or pda2k ...everything will work then!
good luck..
keep us posted!!!!

in the above post: i mean unplug usb then replug usb and then run the BAupgrade utility....
can you upload hte 1.36 rom you have??? does your device have wifi and camera???
thanks

zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...

your running the Verizon EVDO version of the the BlueAngel a CDMS 1xrt yada yada device. Most new ROM images are made for GSM phones then latter altered to talk to CDMA modules. In this case I think ot only would you not have a "good" experience but would warn against it. Second BlueAngel devices have OEM driver for the slide out keyboard. You will most likely loose for sure its use with this new OS. This is why the only devices it is worrking on right now are non-hardwired keyboard devices. Also there seems to be a notable diff in the hardare implimentation between HTC based devices. What software might work with one may not at all or damage another. Sorry for the down news but I think unless you have a keyboardless device I would not recomend playing with it. Just my 2 cents.
What you can do though is grab some of the elements (image files) from the new OS in other threads here, and overwrite the files on your device. Kind of like adding crome package or racing stripes. still the same car, just feel new :wink:

Thanks for the input. I'm running the Sprint version, not the Verizon one, same difference though pretty much, lol. 2.5G Vs. 1xrt and both have EV-DO, and then of course the frequency of the Verizon digital and Sprints PCS, but yeah both CDMA
I really couldn't care less about the keyboard, I don't even use it, never really have. Honestly, I work for CompUSA and if this thing gets buggered up I'll just exchange it out. I'm going to do a full backup tonight, hard reset, dump the existing ROM and then start the process just for grins to see how it goes. As long as it's not dog slow, text messaging works and email along with voice functions I'll be happy as heck. It'll atleast be fun to screw with and then I can always go back later.
I'm still unclear on some things like the country code and stuff that was mentioned in the other posts. Once I know I have all the facts and all of the files I'll give it a try and post back here. I'm off Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday so I'll have 3 days straight to play. I have to say my only real concern is it working with the CDMA radio which hopefully it will since I have a good copy of the latest Radio ROM for it...

hi 92GTA
yeah were on the same page..
wm2005 i can share is the original post..and i think page 10 has the answer (im not entirely sure though the post has now 17 pages!!!)

@ 92GTA : can you share this 2k5 ROM ? can you upload to a ftp and give us a link

bad :
read properly : he WANTS to install WM2005 on his IIs.
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
It's like putting diesel in a petrol car..things will screw up...
The 2005 upgrade currently available is only meant for XDA II devices, not IIs or II mini...or whatever. Hardware differences will render your efforts rather futile save for a massive hack.. Sigh.

indecided said:
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
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dude what the hell is indecided..its either undecided or indecisive
the latter being you :twisted:

already tried this guys, it doesn't work, the bootloader cannot read the CE image, nd therefore hinders the device useless, but i managed to flash back to 1.31 and all is working now.

Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.

hmmm...
Has anyone found a way to get WM5 to work on a blue angel??
I am new to windows ce,
however i have written a disassembler for windows ce arm executables
(dunno if it is of any use for this?)
and i am not affraid to develop more
if there is anyone who has any idea how to go about making wm5 work
i'd be glad to help
(ps i have an imate pda2k)

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Bobi1 said:
Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.
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you can find all the upgrade information at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=138733#138733

............... ??

92GTA said:
zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...
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Sign me up too, CMDA but my has 1x instead of EV-DO. I would be willing to try it.

Where on Audiovox is the 2005 rom?. All I've ever seen are the 2003se updates.

PDA2 ROM straight from I-mate!

They work without being signed in to i-mate!
WWE http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_WWE_11100_144_10300_ship.exe
Arabic
http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_Arabic_11100_153_10300_ship.exe
Italian
http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_ITA_11104_152_10300_ship.exe
The ROM's are dated 1/27/05 but the ****ers did not release the phone until a week or two ago.. What was the hold up? ****ers!
My PDA2 has the same rom as they give on their web site.
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol version 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.144 WWE

OMG! if what you say means what i think it does ( ie .. i can upgrade my xda2i without country id error) then my friend... YOU RULE!
if not then .. sadly.. were back to square 1

double omg !!! it gives country id error...
next step .. how do i get past that little hurdle??

FOUND THE SOLUTION
hey good news.. atleast for me.. i found the way to get past the country id error.... HEHEHEHEHEHE
at the end of this post (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_Upgrade_Errors)
is the file maupgradeut_noid.exe ...run it twice.. first time it gives error then second time it works perfectly....
i wanna kiss the guy who made this utility... YOU RULE!!!

So what's in this release?
I assume it ain't 2005!
Ant

Hi. Will these work on an O2 XDA IIi (English) ?
I need to upgrade mine to see if I can make the bluetooth work better, its very crackly with the default rom (from the o2 website I am using)
Merlin

I can't download past 32.5MB...tried twice now.
Anyone else had similar problems?
Ant

What rom is this? WM5? Dont think so. So why would they release an older rom ???

hi
this is just 2003SE rom .. but an updated one.. i find it more stable and gsm signals are stronger ....
havent tried bluetooth yet but the it seems to have the same version as xda2i rom .. however the quality of BT is often related to the radio rom aswell which in this pda2 rom is of higher build..
go ahead try the rom and share your experiences here

Installed it on my O2 XDA IIi. All went well and it looks like its fine.
Will post any observations later...
M

yeah its been a whole day that ive ran the new rom.. i havent had a single hang on the device...
though there is one thing that bothers me... this rom and ext rom doesnt have a antivirus that the retail pda2 had when i saw it in the shop...
could it be that our pd2 rom donwloaded from the clubimate site is different than the one on retail models...
may be crazzy can tell us whether his retail pda2 has that antivirus app or not.. if so is it in the ce rom or ext rom (his extended rom posted on xda ftp doesnt have it)

will this work on a sx66?

hakushox, the SX66 is a BLUE ANGEL, not an Alpine.

Re: FOUND THE SOLUTION
zohaer21 said:
hey good news.. atleast for me.. i found the way to get past the country id error.... HEHEHEHEHEHE
at the end of this post (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_Upgrade_Errors)
is the file maupgradeut_noid.exe ...run it twice.. first time it gives error then second time it works perfectly....
i wanna kiss the guy who made this utility... YOU RULE!!!
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It still gives me Update utility error...cam u help

I'll try it today and see how it goes.
Has anyone tried this and then successfully gone back to the o2 rom?
<<starting the backup and checking I've got all the bases covered>>
Ant

Installed, working fine so far.
Looks to have improved the Auto camera setting as well, it actually adjusts now and doesn't look dark in all conditions!
Ant

hi
yeah the first time the utility gets you into bootloader mode and gives the error ... the second time (without disconnecting the device) running the utility is succesful...
what you have to do before that is... run the pda2 rom intact then look for the *.nbf files in the temp folder.. copy everything in that folder to another folder of your liking.. copy the mdaupgrade_no id utility to that same folder and run twice from there

All still working fine, except for a slight issue with viewing pictures.
I click on a jpg image, "Album" appears at the top of the screen as though it's just taking a short while to run, then soft resets.
Anyone else?
Ant

no that album thingie is fine with me.. still no prob..

Well ive tried to download this a few times now and i cannot seem to complete the download
Im interested to see if this update is any good.

imate jasjar rom updat????

hi
does any one know.... the clubimate initially posted a date of sept 30 but thats like half a month ago...and then no news..
i was wondering if any of you know>>>

They have released a new ROM. It's on the site. Go look on their site - http://www.clubimate.com

inspectorgadget ...the rom posted (though has a higher version than the ones shipped on the devices originally) but is actually the same version literally..the imate ppl by mistake put an arabic rom for jasjar as UPGRADE on their site which when used by many many ppl to upgrade led them to have a very expensive paper weight... the imate ppl then to correct their fault released the current rom (with a different version number to differentiate from shipped roms) so that those expensive paperweights could be used as pda's and phones again...
at that time when this debacle happened imate support ppl wrote on that very page that infact the correct rom UPDATE (not restore) would be released sept 30th....that date has come and gone half a month ago..and there is no official news on that jasjar support page anymore regarding the actual ROM UPDATE... hence my question here...

No it is not technically the same ROM. Try a search on the forum....you will see that they originally posted an arabic rom, then they posted the original rom to fix that mistake, and then they posted the new rom.
The rom version shipped with the device is:
Rom version: 1.12.00
Radio version: 1.03.00
ExtROM version: 1.12.132
And the new one:
Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01
ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I'm not sure what the new features are exactly, but I do know that the operator gprs/mms settings are now installed for you when you hard reset the phone, and there is an antivirus cab file too which you can install, but I lost mine.
There is also now application signing too, which is annoying, but can be disabled in the registry.
People say there is more free memory after the update...about 7mb I think.

hi
the antivirus **** cabs been on mine since start...and after unistalling the back gammon,antivirus and skype cabs after hard reset the newer versoin of the rom has infact 700kb less space than the original one shipped on my jasjar

Need Help Please on jasjar new rom
I loaded the new rom on my jasjar and my whole screen disappeared and I don't know how to bring it back to life.
I tried to reset in every way but it comes back to the same black screen and I'm not able to sync. I'm pulling my hair

antolinv said:
I loaded the new rom on my jasjar and my whole screen disappeared and I don't know how to bring it back to life.
I tried to reset in every way but it comes back to the same black screen and I'm not able to sync. I'm pulling my hair
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1)dont panic
2)search for UNI_ExitBootloader.zip. run the exe in it to get the things back to normal. This often happens with g4 universal.
And yeah, make sure that the activesync is set not to listen the usb ports

jasjar is not seen on USB
I have the same problem with my Jas Jar, after trying to update.
I tried UNI_ExitBootloader.zip but unfortunately the connection with USB does not recognize the device. I checked the activesync connections settings many times, but the Jas jar is like dead. Is not recognised by the USB!!!!!
any suggestion......
kdskamal said:
1)dont panic
2)search for UNI_ExitBootloader.zip. run the exe in it to get the things back to normal. This often happens with g4 universal.
And yeah, make sure that the activesync is set not to listen the usb ports
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I hate i-mate
I have tried to call them as well as emails with no positive response or care about their product, so I am going with these guys are really good try this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421102 is really good and fast and in top of that is stable

To which rom should I update my Dutch TMobile MDA pro?

Hi!
I really feel like a newbie when i read all the posts about all the different rom versions, so can someone give me some advice which rom i should use to upgrade to?
I have a dutch TMobile MDA pro, which is still at the default rom:
ROM: 1.12.42 WWE (8/23/05)
Radio: 1.00.02
extRom: 1.12.125 WWE
I am experiencing problems with spontaneous hangs (which might have to do with 3rd party software, but the device itself isnt exactly stable)
but also the radio often just loses signal, which i can only fix by rebooting...
I want to upgrade, but i don't want to spend toooo much time on it. Is there a rom that offers better stability which is easy to install and configure?
Regards,
Casper

Try updating to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. Very stable and fast. I too use a lot of 3rd party applications and games. This is my 3rd day of not experiencing any problem without doing a soft reset in the morning.

I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released

ady said:
I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released
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ady, what made you say the I-Mate ROM has not been released yet? It is true there is a test version which came 2 weeks earlier than the one I am using now which is NOT the test version. Just curious.
Another question please about the NEW Orange ROM. Is it true that the vibrate is always ON and you can't turn it OFF?

I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!

koesper said:
I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!
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I upgraded my mda pro to the latest t-mobile UK ROM straight out of the box. But even then I have the same problems with spontaneous hangs. And reading your success story I gathered all the files JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe and MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to upgrade to the JasJar rom myself. But as complete newbie who is affraid to mess things up, did you do anything else except unzipping the ROM update and copying the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to that folder ? The reason why I am asking I read somewhere that you have to add [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 to the RUU.conf file.
Thanks in advance.

JASJAR rom works fine
My T-mobile mda pro NL arrived today and i almost immediately flashed it to Imate JASJAR firmware on the xda-developer ftp. I used the Universal_Upgrade_v1.30.68_radio_1.09.0.zip file which contains:
Rom 1.30.68 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
ExtROM 1.30.153
Protocol 42.42P8
and is dated at 08 february 2006.
This works fine and removes the ugly pink theme and adds some nice apps like skype after customizing. It also has an alternative contacts menu, which has skype integration. Pocket MSN (a not so nice app imho) is also included, although i use the new agile messenger beta.
The bootscreen mentions 'for testing only, not for sale' which might indicate that it is not a final (not sure though).

Thanks it works like a charm.
ROM 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date 20 february 2006
Radio 1.09.00
Protocol 42.42.P8
ExtROM 1.30.164 WWE

I'm using T-mobile UK version with 1.09 radio rom. This version INCLUDES the a2dp profiles, but no pushmail. You can use the blackberry connect software from german t-mobile site on the Universal. so you will have AND pushmail and A2DP.
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5561
I think Imate rom is also a nice ROM.

Reading this topic en reading the instructions about bootloader, I have another question. In the instruction ist says to make a factory reset after loading the new ROM. Does this mean that all information in your MDA is wiped out and must be reloaded?

yes the machine is a complete naked beauty afterwards

Reccommended WM6 version for iPaq hx2495b

I love my iPaq to death. I really do. But I want to stab Windows Moblie 5 in the eye IN THE EYE. Particularly since I have version 1.0.1. Can some kind folks recommend me the version/custom-build of WM6 that works best with the hx2xxx or even better the hx24xxb? I am eternally in your debt for saving me from the monster that is WM5.
Sincerely,
GK

Hello? Anyone?

check my website out, http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

Alright, I'm running into problems. I can hard-reset just fine, but when I try to get into the white bootloader, I just get a white screen, no USB anything. I've tried both 1.02.00 h and 1.00.00 h. Both do the same thing. Also, when I try to flash to the WM6 rom, I get an Invalid SKU error... I realize you guys are all very busy and tired of the WM6 problems, but could someone PLEASE help me?

Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329079
I think you will find all the answers

dpdurst, I have check your website, and notice that the ROM is for Hx2750, I have an iPAQ hx2495b with 192 mb ROM. Do you think if it will work for me?
Thanks

The roms for hx2000 series work and your device. And I think that the procedure is the same or very similar like for hx2490b, and for this reason I suggest the thread at my above post.

Hi dancer_69, I have just yesterday upgrade my hx2495b to WM6 using dpdurst ROM. But I have a question, why I cannot user messenger?

Just download an updated version, I think you can find it here in the forum. Use search