Develop Bugs

WM2005 on a Blue Angel

I have a Blue Angel as mentioned in my signature and I have what I believe are all of the files needed to try and install WM2005 Build 14326.0.0.0 onto it.
Here are the WM2005 files I currently have:
HimaUpgradeUt - 512KB - 5/5/2004 4:54PM
nk.nbf - 32,769KB - 3/21/2005 9:08AM
And the following came from my existing ROM:
ms_.nbf - 16,833KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
radio_.nbf - 4,097KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
I also have a good copy of ActiveSync Beta 4.0.0 and have all of the instructions that were made in the main WM2005 post for installing on the Himalaya and I'm assuming it should be the same for the Blue Angel.
My device info currently reads:
Model No: PH20A2
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 Build 14132
ROM Version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/13/05
Radio Version: HA00_140
Protocol Version: AA3.3.301
ExtROM Version: 1.36.110 WWE
Hardware Version: 0041
This is what it came with out of the box, I have not installed the updated ROM Audiovox released the day the phone was released because I have never had a single problem and some people who upgraded reported problems and that some files were a day older than the version that shipped in the original ROM.
-------------------
Now my 1st question, the newest updated ROM installer package from Audiovox which was released 3/4/2005, has a different version of the upgrade utility, it's called "HaUpgradeUt - 424KB - 12/23/2004". The package it was included in from Audiovox's website was called "HA_SPCS_13600_113_00140_6600". Which upgrade utility is the best to use or does it not matter?
Now my 2nd question, has anyone yet tried this on a Blue Angel? Is there anyone here who really knows thier stuff who is willing to help me if I get lost or screwed up so I can be the Blue Angel WM2005 test pig?
Thanks!

hi
i have a pda2k with 1.33 rom and radio rom 1.08 and my cooked rom
i tried the upgrade but got the device authentication error.. tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.. the himupgrade starts the procedure and then stops after some time saying an error occured..
but you go ahead and try it..may be you will do something differently and will succeed..
note: i have tried the xda 2 SE rom and imate jam rom and almost tried the alpine rom on my pda2k.. there is nothing you cannot revert back from
just incase if you are curious what happened after the above roms..my device didnt boot.... no problem...just unplug the usb port of the cradle and run a wwe rom made for xda 2s or pda2k ...everything will work then!
good luck..
keep us posted!!!!

in the above post: i mean unplug usb then replug usb and then run the BAupgrade utility....
can you upload hte 1.36 rom you have??? does your device have wifi and camera???
thanks

zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...

your running the Verizon EVDO version of the the BlueAngel a CDMS 1xrt yada yada device. Most new ROM images are made for GSM phones then latter altered to talk to CDMA modules. In this case I think ot only would you not have a "good" experience but would warn against it. Second BlueAngel devices have OEM driver for the slide out keyboard. You will most likely loose for sure its use with this new OS. This is why the only devices it is worrking on right now are non-hardwired keyboard devices. Also there seems to be a notable diff in the hardare implimentation between HTC based devices. What software might work with one may not at all or damage another. Sorry for the down news but I think unless you have a keyboardless device I would not recomend playing with it. Just my 2 cents.
What you can do though is grab some of the elements (image files) from the new OS in other threads here, and overwrite the files on your device. Kind of like adding crome package or racing stripes. still the same car, just feel new :wink:

Thanks for the input. I'm running the Sprint version, not the Verizon one, same difference though pretty much, lol. 2.5G Vs. 1xrt and both have EV-DO, and then of course the frequency of the Verizon digital and Sprints PCS, but yeah both CDMA
I really couldn't care less about the keyboard, I don't even use it, never really have. Honestly, I work for CompUSA and if this thing gets buggered up I'll just exchange it out. I'm going to do a full backup tonight, hard reset, dump the existing ROM and then start the process just for grins to see how it goes. As long as it's not dog slow, text messaging works and email along with voice functions I'll be happy as heck. It'll atleast be fun to screw with and then I can always go back later.
I'm still unclear on some things like the country code and stuff that was mentioned in the other posts. Once I know I have all the facts and all of the files I'll give it a try and post back here. I'm off Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday so I'll have 3 days straight to play. I have to say my only real concern is it working with the CDMA radio which hopefully it will since I have a good copy of the latest Radio ROM for it...

hi 92GTA
yeah were on the same page..
wm2005 i can share is the original post..and i think page 10 has the answer (im not entirely sure though the post has now 17 pages!!!)

@ 92GTA : can you share this 2k5 ROM ? can you upload to a ftp and give us a link

bad :
read properly : he WANTS to install WM2005 on his IIs.
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
It's like putting diesel in a petrol car..things will screw up...
The 2005 upgrade currently available is only meant for XDA II devices, not IIs or II mini...or whatever. Hardware differences will render your efforts rather futile save for a massive hack.. Sigh.

indecided said:
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dude what the hell is indecided..its either undecided or indecisive
the latter being you :twisted:

already tried this guys, it doesn't work, the bootloader cannot read the CE image, nd therefore hinders the device useless, but i managed to flash back to 1.31 and all is working now.

Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.

hmmm...
Has anyone found a way to get WM5 to work on a blue angel??
I am new to windows ce,
however i have written a disassembler for windows ce arm executables
(dunno if it is of any use for this?)
and i am not affraid to develop more
if there is anyone who has any idea how to go about making wm5 work
i'd be glad to help
(ps i have an imate pda2k)

Friends the help, at my friend phone the Blue Angel is necessary, necessary WM2005 on it can to help to send? Write on
[email protected]
ISQ 1366613

Bobi1 said:
Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can find all the upgrade information at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=138733#138733

............... ??

92GTA said:
zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sign me up too, CMDA but my has 1x instead of EV-DO. I would be willing to try it.

Where on Audiovox is the 2005 rom?. All I've ever seen are the 2003se updates.

PDA2 ROM straight from I-mate!

They work without being signed in to i-mate!
WWE http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_WWE_11100_144_10300_ship.exe
Arabic
http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_Arabic_11100_153_10300_ship.exe
Italian
http://www.clubimate.com/support/PDA2/ROM/PDA2_ITA_11104_152_10300_ship.exe
The ROM's are dated 1/27/05 but the ****ers did not release the phone until a week or two ago.. What was the hold up? ****ers!
My PDA2 has the same rom as they give on their web site.
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol version 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.144 WWE

OMG! if what you say means what i think it does ( ie .. i can upgrade my xda2i without country id error) then my friend... YOU RULE!
if not then .. sadly.. were back to square 1

double omg !!! it gives country id error...
next step .. how do i get past that little hurdle??

FOUND THE SOLUTION
hey good news.. atleast for me.. i found the way to get past the country id error.... HEHEHEHEHEHE
at the end of this post (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_Upgrade_Errors)
is the file maupgradeut_noid.exe ...run it twice.. first time it gives error then second time it works perfectly....
i wanna kiss the guy who made this utility... YOU RULE!!!

So what's in this release?
I assume it ain't 2005!
Ant

Hi. Will these work on an O2 XDA IIi (English) ?
I need to upgrade mine to see if I can make the bluetooth work better, its very crackly with the default rom (from the o2 website I am using)
Merlin

I can't download past 32.5MB...tried twice now.
Anyone else had similar problems?
Ant

What rom is this? WM5? Dont think so. So why would they release an older rom ???

hi
this is just 2003SE rom .. but an updated one.. i find it more stable and gsm signals are stronger ....
havent tried bluetooth yet but the it seems to have the same version as xda2i rom .. however the quality of BT is often related to the radio rom aswell which in this pda2 rom is of higher build..
go ahead try the rom and share your experiences here

Installed it on my O2 XDA IIi. All went well and it looks like its fine.
Will post any observations later...
M

yeah its been a whole day that ive ran the new rom.. i havent had a single hang on the device...
though there is one thing that bothers me... this rom and ext rom doesnt have a antivirus that the retail pda2 had when i saw it in the shop...
could it be that our pd2 rom donwloaded from the clubimate site is different than the one on retail models...
may be crazzy can tell us whether his retail pda2 has that antivirus app or not.. if so is it in the ce rom or ext rom (his extended rom posted on xda ftp doesnt have it)

will this work on a sx66?

hakushox, the SX66 is a BLUE ANGEL, not an Alpine.

Re: FOUND THE SOLUTION
zohaer21 said:
hey good news.. atleast for me.. i found the way to get past the country id error.... HEHEHEHEHEHE
at the end of this post (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_Upgrade_Errors)
is the file maupgradeut_noid.exe ...run it twice.. first time it gives error then second time it works perfectly....
i wanna kiss the guy who made this utility... YOU RULE!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It still gives me Update utility error...cam u help

I'll try it today and see how it goes.
Has anyone tried this and then successfully gone back to the o2 rom?
<<starting the backup and checking I've got all the bases covered>>
Ant

Installed, working fine so far.
Looks to have improved the Auto camera setting as well, it actually adjusts now and doesn't look dark in all conditions!
Ant

hi
yeah the first time the utility gets you into bootloader mode and gives the error ... the second time (without disconnecting the device) running the utility is succesful...
what you have to do before that is... run the pda2 rom intact then look for the *.nbf files in the temp folder.. copy everything in that folder to another folder of your liking.. copy the mdaupgrade_no id utility to that same folder and run twice from there

All still working fine, except for a slight issue with viewing pictures.
I click on a jpg image, "Album" appears at the top of the screen as though it's just taking a short while to run, then soft resets.
Anyone else?
Ant

no that album thingie is fine with me.. still no prob..

Well ive tried to download this a few times now and i cannot seem to complete the download
Im interested to see if this update is any good.

UNIVERSAL: NEW ROM: Orange UK 1.30.90

Out today to download from here:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...c=PaDPage&cid=1044130840493&mid=1044129390154
Discuss in the relevant forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=249806

hi
whats up with the radio rom version on this update???
1.03??? thats so 2005!!!

Hi, i have an Orange M5000,
my ROM is:
ROM: 1.13.49 WWE
ROM Date: 09/20/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol version: 42.36.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.130 WWE
do you think its worth me installing this upgrade, is the only thing it changes is the ability to use push E-mail?, whats the best radio version to have?
thanks for your help

Hi I did the update a few hours ago and I'm loving it, the only thing I don't realy like is the fact that the battery icon has moved2task bar, but its all working,plus there is no silent pause everytime I pick up a call

I have found one problem, it could just be me but im not sure what else i can do, but i cant install SPB PocketPlus 3, im lost with out this software, i think its the most usful program i have

spv-m5000
radio version i have on spv-m5000 is 1.09
if any one wants it ill send them
its to process :
1 fromn 1.03 to 1.06
then 1.06 to 1.09
about 70 mb.
rgds

Re: spv-m5000
motin said:
1 fromn 1.03 to 1.06
then 1.06 to 1.09
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you need both?! you can go straight from 1.03 to 1.09!
and it's on the ftp...

radio upgrade
gd luck if u can do it
on my spv-m5000
i could not do it and hed to do 1 by one.

Hi, lastnight i upgraded my radio from .03 to .09 and it worked perfectly, as normal i had to make sure the phone was in bootloader mode to make t work, i got the files from this sites FTP server, XDA-Developers site is all you need!
Thank you to everybody that gives there views and advice freely!
P.S i got Pocket plus to install after i did another hard reset, phewwww

Don't want to sound stupid but ...
.. is upgrading your ROM an easy thing to do for a non teckie ?
Do you need to hard reset etc etc. ?
Is there a guide out there ?
Don't wanna take the plunge and mess things up. I've got loads of software and tweaks on my SPVM5000 - will Sprite Back up re-install with a new ROM. I'm also on 1.13.49 same as jab1a.

Hello All,
If i replace my xda exec rom to orange rom, it will be locked?
Another question, where can i get the radio rom 1.09 to flash the orange rom?
Thank you,
racerx

Hi Rick GM,
the ROM upgrade is pritty easy and the Radio update is aswell, everything you need to know or might not need to know about the update is in the WiKi and forum. its real easy.
As for backups, im not sure how this works but for good measure before i did the upgrade i did a FULL backup, then i did a non-rom backup (i.e i just backed-up the things i had installed on the m5000) then i did a PIM and message backup (note: i only ever have problems with a restore when i decide to restore the messages databases so unless you realy need to i would only backup the PIM(contacts) database). I think if you tryed to do a full backup and then do the upgrade and then restore the full backup you might run into a few errors or incompatability. it only takes about 30mins to do the update and about another 20mins to re-install all your software and then the rest of your life to get all the setting you want just right! lol
I am sure you will do fine, after all this is the best site in the world for PPC so im sure someone here would be able to help you if it all goes pear shaped

Moved thread from news section

Thanks for that jab 1a
I haven't taken the plunge yet but it's coming !
I think your 20 minutes to re-instal software is a bit optimistic even if all goes well. I reckon it will take me an hour plus to sort out all the cr*p that I've got on my device. (I keep a copy of everything but some's on my home PC and some at work).
I'll update you when I finally pluck up courage / find the time.
BTW - I'm only going to do it because you can. Isn't that what these devices are all about ?

Rick GM said:
BTW - I'm only going to do it because you can. Isn't that what these devices are all about ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh thats the spirit!
yep looking at it now i think it would take more than 20mins
let us know how you get on when you do it

jab1a wote
let us know how you get on when you do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I upgraded with the ROM from the Orange site (1.30.90) - no problem. That's good news.
Sprite Backup V5.1 is newly released this week and boasts cross ROM/Device backup capability after capturing your old ROM in .sbu file immediately after hard reset and prior to ROM upgrade.
It hasn't worked - it won't recognise my .sbu file (Invalid Upgrade File) or words to that effect so it looks like a slog to put everything back on (unless Sprite can restore (no pun intended) my faith in them and come up with an answer. Might have a go at the Radio Rom next.

I have the new ROM from Qtek into my Universal. Is it worth the upgrade to this new Orange ROM?
best regards,
Deiota

Rick GM said:
jab1a wote
let us know how you get on when you do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I upgraded with the ROM from the Orange site (1.30.90) - no problem. That's good news.
Sprite Backup V5.1 is newly released this week and boasts cross ROM/Device backup capability after capturing your old ROM in .sbu file immediately after hard reset and prior to ROM upgrade.
It hasn't worked - it won't recognise my .sbu file (Invalid Upgrade File) or words to that effect so it looks like a slog to put everything back on (unless Sprite can restore (no pun intended) my faith in them and come up with an answer. Might have a go at the Radio Rom next.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sprite really screwed up here.
When they released 5.1, they re-introduced their killer rom upgrade proof restore feature. It even works for the new self-extracting restores. How cool is that?
Now, today, I had to have my SPV M5000 replaced (same model) because of a screen problem, and knew the replacement would be AKU2, so I purchased Sprite 5.1 to back up with. I looked around all the different pages I could find showing how to use Device Upgrade Mode. All had links to the same GetUpgradeData.exe. So, even though I had that nagging developers' intuition that this must be wrong, I assumed it was the right version. I only had twelve hours to puchase, get the file down, and do all the backup stuff.
Then I exchanged devices with the courier. (Orange care is great (mostly!)). However, when I tried to restore, what a surprise: "Invalid Upgrade File". Checked back on Sprite Site - ONE page out of the five or six links to GetUpgradeData2005.exe. Howl !!!! :x
Can someone please post an UpgradeData.sbu, from a clean vanilla Pre-AKU2 M5000, dumped with the new GetUpgradeData2005.exe, otherwise someone at Sprite is just gonna have to die. Lots.
Many, Many thank yous in advance!

Update: Sprite have kindly offerred to provide an sbu for 1.13.53 WWE.
Unfortunately, as best as I can remember, mine Rom was 1.13.49 WWE.
Can anyone please tell me of an identifying characterstic by which I dould have distinguished the two versions (bearing in mind - I don't have the device any more), or even better an upgrade file (sbu) for 1.13.49 WWE?

Mutant
I too used the GetUpgradeData.exe as advised by Sprite. After registering my problem they advised me to use the GetUpgradeData2005.exe and sent me a copy. Unfortunately I'd already upgraded the ROM so didn't have the .sbu pre upgrade. I've since got a clean 1.13.49 from a colleagues Orange SPV M5000 but the backup still didn't work. Sprite recognised the .sbu but just messed up the device (after partially restoring) requiring several hard resets. If you want the .sbu, I think I've got it stored somewhere. Let me know.

Upgrading to the Official WM6 ROM, but have questions

When I got my replacement AT&T 8525, it came with the AT&T WM5 ROM. I decided to downgrade to the Cingular WM5 version since I didn't like the AT&T one. I've been skeptical about upgrading to the official WM6 release, and I figured that since I have some time tonight that I would. However, I do have a couple of questions about how this will work since I had to install a different bootloader in order to make the change back to the Cingular WM5 version possible.
Currently my settings are:
ROM version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio version: 1.40.30.00
HardSPLv7
My question are, do I need to modify my radio version before I upgrade? Also, should I modify my bootloader before I upgrade to the official WM6? Thanks.

Firstly good job on flashing HardSPL.
your radio doesnt need to be changed at all, but if you want to take a peek at my tests here that might help you choose an appropriate radio version.
For WM6 DEFINATLY go for it, the updated stacks/drivers/kernel are definatly faster than the WM5 versions.
Give the pandora naked 7 ROM a shot........it will FLY.
Your settings can be restored for AT&T using the HTC network wizard (easily found with a search).......and make sure you backup all your contacts etc... using PIMBackup (in the development forum).

I keep getting an error 264 connection error saying that the update utility cannot connect to my phone. I've followed all the steps. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. The only thing that sparks my mind that I don't remember occuring before is that when I plug my phone in via USB ActiveSync automatically begins, so I wasn't sure if I needed to disable that function or not since the instructions mentioned something about being sure that happens before installing the new ROM.

Any help? I'm still stuck here.

I just did mine (I am a brand new to all this) and I followed these steps word for word in this thread, adn man what a difference .
read these all the way through.
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=13&Itemid=26
Nates good people and willing to help although he is a caffeine addict
and after you upgrade the rom do this, but read it all before doing so
HTC plug in , great look for the 8525
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...ome-plug.html?highlight=HTC+Home+plug-in+v1.0

Oh i forgot, the HTC att WM6 included the radio upgrade to the 1.48. which works great.

O2 XDA Exec ROM upgrade from original???

Hi guys.
I am looking for latest ROM upgrade for O2 Xda Exec. I searched the form and eveylink is down.
From the O2 site, this phone is discontinued so out of luck for me i guess?
they refer me to a non UK based side as im not a UK customer but even there i can't find the ROM upgrade.
What i have now was what it was 1st manufactured with. So this puts me back and realized alot of applications and programs i want to have i.e. iphone look, i need this upgrade.
If anyone has a link i would truly appriciate it.
Here was the link from this forum but as you can see all links are down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270658
Spec's:
using win mobile 5
ROM version: 1.30.107 WWE
ROM date: 04/11/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: 1.30.162 WWE
Thanks

Upgraded
last night from the original ROM to Ranju's 7.7, I suggest you give it a go and see if you like it.

enigma1nz said:
last night from the original ROM to Ranju's 7.7, I suggest you give it a go and see if you like it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oh man...
ran this and BAD news
my device isnt even starting up now. it did it then showed error then it showed asked me to do the recovery steps so i did and when i hard reset it it shows the white skin to press x or 0 so i left it and on my computer is said press next.suddenly the computer says it got a problem. i am using vista
can anyone help.
im in a bigger fix now, trying to fix a small problem!

My O2
upgraded without any problems and very fast, I was holding off upgrading the original O2 Exec ROM for quite some time, because I was worried my Imate ROM and software experiments might go wrong one day and I'll at least have a working O2 to get me through. However, my JasJar ran into problems with Ranju 7.7 update and was bricked and stuck on Imate blue versions screen (an equivalent of O2's water bubbles splash) for good. I tried everything. At some point I even tried to calm myself down by thinking that at least I can salvage the brand new screen I had installed a few weeks ago and put it into another JasJar I have that needs one. For my solution see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2229386#post2229386
Although it's for JasJar, I think it just might work for you.
Hope it helps

On the other hand
if you have access to an XP computer, I'd take my ROM and AS4.5 and try to upgrade with XP. I heard Vista can be quite unreliable in such matters. If I am not mistaken, there is a thread somewhere about that very problem with Vista.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try this and post back.
Edit:
Problem fixed. All i did was use a Win XP computer, installed ActiveSync 4.1
Did a soft reset while XDA was plugged it and opened the ROM by Ranju 7.7
Came up with no problems at all!
Now only one more thing to solve. My 500GB external HD fell to the floor and now computer isnt picking it up and its making weird sounds. I have 300GB worth of medical school stuff and programs. If i dont get my datea then i am done for. If anyone has info on this let me know.
Cheers

Where do I get Ranju 7.7 from?
Is there a link to Ranju 7.7?
And so it works well for O2's XDA EXEC?

Do a simple search. Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367448
yes it works with O2 XDA Exec as i did it with mine.
I had the original ROM that the device came with and it installed a really excellent interface and you will have Win Mobile 6
I would really advice you to run it with a Win XP computer only. Vista is not friendly at all.