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T-Mobile UK - MDA III --- HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!

sekou0 said:
I have just bought a T-Mobile UK MDA III and I think my whole package is out of date..
I need a ROM update, and if possible an OS update. But I dont know how and where to find either..
I called T-Mobile, but they seemed LESS clued up than me. Can ANYONE help me out... perhaps get me the files I need to do this.
Bearing in mind that I am a TOTAL phone novice..
My Details are as follows... (I couldnt select my phone from the profile set up)
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version : 1.00.00
Protocol version : 1337.30
ExtROM version : 1.06.160 ENG
O/S Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
So, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!
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Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck

Guys
I am on my knees genuflecting wildly..
thanks very much... and I am in NO WAY upset infact I was beginning to think it was my own stupidity as to why I couldnt find it..
But to be honest... I have searched alot.. reading loads of threads that didnt quite say what I needed..
But anyways... thanks ALOT for the pointer

CarlnAdele said:
Don't get upset but you really should read the site a bit more before posting such a thread.
Everything you need to know is right here if only some of you guys would search and have a read first.
To take the edge of the above lol here is where everything you need to know is read carefully before attempting anything you can damage your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
Good Luck
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Hi again..
HELP!! I must be really dense.. I am not sure how I managed to procreate..
But I've downloaded the /O2_UK_XDAIIs_WWE_13100_139_10600_SHIP/ file.. and I've applied the changes as per http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
Now before I actually RUN this against my working phone, I am wondering, if as well as upgrading the windows operating system, will it change my phone from a look and feel t-mobile environment to a O2 one??
Am I right in thinkng that the extended rom is the O2/T-Mobile specific programs??
Basically I am looking for My T-Mobile with the latest microsoft windows OS..
THanks for your patience and help

You're going to have to put in a bit of time and effort to get what you want.
The update has three parts, Base OS, ExtROM and Radio ROM.
The first and last will be OK, but the ExtROM is customised for each provider (ie O2, Orange etc).
It might be best unlocking your ExtROM (search for how), and save it. Work out what is OK, what needs updating and what is operator customisation. assemble a set of CAB files that match all the criteria for your phone and T-Mobile.
Replace the ExtROM with the files you have assembled and then update the base OS and radio ROMs, leaving the ExtROM as you have just altered it.
When the upgrade is finished a hard reset will run your new ExtROM with specific T-Mobile customisations you have gathered.
Although I didn't need to change the Base OS and Radio ROMs, I did manage to convert an XDA IIs to an SPV M2000 by altering the ExtROM, so the method works.
Richard

THANKS
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..

Re: THANKS
sekou0 said:
Thanks guys..
I finally got it updated to 1.40 no less
Thanks for the pointers and the help..
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and dont just stop there.....
post some feedback on how the unit works now with the new rom....
help others by posting your feedback, your challenges etc.

Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?

Upgrading T-Mobile Roms
A word of warning - be careful if you use the Blackberry (Insant Email) Service with T-Mobile UK, as it has been reported that it will not work with any radio higher than 1.06.
Good luck with upgrading and please post back for us less brave MDA III owners

No worries about Blackberry here. I would remove it anyway more than likely if doing a ROM upgrade as its not doing anything for me other than taking up space.

Sure..
I am decorating the house at the moment... But I will zip up my existing ext rom this weekend.. and I;ll let you know whats working...
Theres a generic 1.40 rom floating around on this site.. when I got theres a ext rom with that... and all I did was take the T-Mob cabs from my existing rom and dropped them in the ext rom directory..
But I will take my existing ext rom from my phone and zip that up for you..
so far everything is working... havent had any real problems with the phone SO FAR!!
nacatomi said:
Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading my MDAIII cos I'll probably die/kill myself before tmobile does anything about it :evil:
What did you end up with in your external ROM to keep all the tmobile gubbins. And did it work the same as before?
The tmobile stuff might not be great but don't know what the phone would be like without it.
Also any chance of you zipping up your ext rom and putting it on the ftp?
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Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?

Dude!
I am really sorry it took so long, I have had a really bad week..
Well the good news is that I have just zipped my external rom for you.. but for some reason I cant upload it to the ftp site.. (mind you I am not entirely sure where to put it)
It comes in at 12MB so I cant email it.. so the alternatives to me finding it is you giving me an msn messenger Id and I could send it from there..
i will continue to look to find a way to upload it..
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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happy days...
I just uploaded it to xdaupload.. stupid me was using xda.. duh!!
theres a winzip file TMobile_UK_Cooked_Extended_ROM_sekou0.zip
thats my current external rom.. with the tmobile bits included...
let me know if you need anything else...
nacatomi said:
Hi,
did you get chance to upload the ROM yet? I've had a look round on the ftp and can't find it. Don't mean to be an a*?e chasing you if you haven't had time yet, just wondering if its me being stupid not being able to find it :?
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WM5 on the CDMA Harrier

I along with a ton of other Harrier owners can't wait to get WM5!!!
In light of the "NO GSM" error people are getting I'm assuming there is something in the BA ROM that checks the Radio on boot.
Has anyone actually opened up the latest 2003SE Harrier ROM and the latest 2003SE BA ROM and actually looked for what the difference is? I'm hoping someone can do that and maybe modify the WM5 BA ROM thereby compatible with the Harrier.
I've tried opening both my 2003SE ROM using the "er2003edit" but it keeps saying the password is wrong. Also it won't open the WM5 BA ROM.
Any thoughts???

Hi, I have the harrier XV6600 and I have a bit knowledge related to the ROMS and stuff, I'll be trying to figure out what the difference is, i'm assuming it's the whole Kernel it self, but not sure, anyways, can you provide me with as much information about ur device... carrier, rom etc... also where u able to boot up WM2005 at all on your device? I get to the screen with the four colors then get to the menu, and ones I hit the envelope it just gives me a white screen and it stays there for ever until i reset and then i'm back to step one..
I would like to know if it atleast is capable of booting up the OS before I decide to spend sometime trying to make it compatible with the CDMA network.. thanks

No Harrier owners as of yet have gotten it to boot. We all simply get the NO GSM error after install and after the screen you mentioned you got to.
I've cooked my ExtROM onto my SD Card and resized my memory so I'm ready for it atleast. I also have the correct installer for the Harrier as all of the Harrier specific tools for unhiding, unlocking, and resizing the ExtROM. Also I have all of the 2.04 ROM version files of all the .exe's that all the BA guys said WM5 was missing and had posted from their 2003SE ROM's. Of course we don't have the WiFi file. I also have the patched WM5 ROM nbf without the file error that mamaich made.

It's the kernel thats different, 2003 and 2005 are using the same bootloader. Looking at the 2003 gsm rom, the kernel is very similiar to the 2005 rom. Getting the cdma radio layer running would be easy enough, but, we have to get the kernel to boot the OS. Not sure if the 2003 kernel will do it, i'll give it a shot though. May even be able to throw one together in PB
,Dave

Sweet, I'll be waiting for the results of your attempt!
Alex

HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
"dll rilcdma.dll"
This is what is preventing the boot-up, I believe.
Any HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn that are unable to load will cause the phone not to boot up.
I am sure this says "dll rilgsm.dll" on the BA. We need to change this to "rilcdma.dll" and copy over the .dll from the 2.04 ROM.
Then dump the ROM and load it on the Harrier, this should hopefully get it booting, if there are not any other bad device drivers.

We also need to make sure this is based off the new patched ROM that mamaich made...
Well here is the rilcdma.dll from my 2.04 ROM:

Wow, you guys rock. It sounds like after some work that it will be possible. I just wish I knew how to help... I do have several devices to test on but I have no rom building experience...

Can't we just hex edit the information of WM2005 dump file? using a hexeditor, but then we would need to copy the file, I'm actually thinking that the rilcdma.dll file might be included already, I remember ones flashing my device with a 2003Se rom, and finding the rilgsm.dll file and my phone was working properly? maybe it's generic to include both the files?
either way we would need to get someone with a gsm phone to do those changes, and copy that file, dump the file, and then we'd need to try them on our devices?
ANY GSM users outhere wanna help?

Bump.
Glad to here people that know what they're doing are working on this.
Hopefully the thread topic won't scare off EVERY GSM user.
Course... they're all too busy playing with the new OS to notice us

Bump

I think it will be a while, if at all, that there will be a CDMA version.
Most of the developers are using the GSM version and thus have no way of testing the CDMA one. Additionally the GSM version is not working perfectly yet, so this will add to the time that it takes. I think we will see a CDMA universal before we see WM5 for the Harrier

*Bump*

The 6700 is out through Sprint! Maybe we'll be able to rip the necessary CDMA files from it? http://www.sprint.com/business/products/phones/ppc6700_allPcsPhones.jsp

Holy crap! Somone "check" one out in a store and grab the ROM with an sd card...

They're only available through business channels right now and should ship next week according to those that have ordered. They were also told that consumer channels should be able to order next week sometime, but no word on when they might start popping up in the stores. Remember, this ROM won't directly copy to our devices, but we might be able to get the necessary files off of it to get WM5 working on our Harriers. It's another step in the right direction at least.

Bump again, lol....

Apache ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=157140

Well, I'm no expert, and I have no equipment, no software, and no skills, lol. So I can't help much here. But I do applaud the effort and wish there were some way I could contribute.
Anyway, I would imagine that if you take the ROM from an Apache (Sprint PPC-6700) and compare it to the ROM of a Wizard, whatever the differences are is probably exactly what the differences between the Harrier and Blue Angel ROMS need to be (for WM5 to be functional on both).
Just a thought...

all you people out there waiting for this to happen should probably check out this thread... looks like good news
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60026&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

imate jasjar rom updat????

hi
does any one know.... the clubimate initially posted a date of sept 30 but thats like half a month ago...and then no news..
i was wondering if any of you know>>>

They have released a new ROM. It's on the site. Go look on their site - http://www.clubimate.com

inspectorgadget ...the rom posted (though has a higher version than the ones shipped on the devices originally) but is actually the same version literally..the imate ppl by mistake put an arabic rom for jasjar as UPGRADE on their site which when used by many many ppl to upgrade led them to have a very expensive paper weight... the imate ppl then to correct their fault released the current rom (with a different version number to differentiate from shipped roms) so that those expensive paperweights could be used as pda's and phones again...
at that time when this debacle happened imate support ppl wrote on that very page that infact the correct rom UPDATE (not restore) would be released sept 30th....that date has come and gone half a month ago..and there is no official news on that jasjar support page anymore regarding the actual ROM UPDATE... hence my question here...

No it is not technically the same ROM. Try a search on the forum....you will see that they originally posted an arabic rom, then they posted the original rom to fix that mistake, and then they posted the new rom.
The rom version shipped with the device is:
Rom version: 1.12.00
Radio version: 1.03.00
ExtROM version: 1.12.132
And the new one:
Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01
ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I'm not sure what the new features are exactly, but I do know that the operator gprs/mms settings are now installed for you when you hard reset the phone, and there is an antivirus cab file too which you can install, but I lost mine.
There is also now application signing too, which is annoying, but can be disabled in the registry.
People say there is more free memory after the update...about 7mb I think.

hi
the antivirus **** cabs been on mine since start...and after unistalling the back gammon,antivirus and skype cabs after hard reset the newer versoin of the rom has infact 700kb less space than the original one shipped on my jasjar

Need Help Please on jasjar new rom
I loaded the new rom on my jasjar and my whole screen disappeared and I don't know how to bring it back to life.
I tried to reset in every way but it comes back to the same black screen and I'm not able to sync. I'm pulling my hair

antolinv said:
I loaded the new rom on my jasjar and my whole screen disappeared and I don't know how to bring it back to life.
I tried to reset in every way but it comes back to the same black screen and I'm not able to sync. I'm pulling my hair
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1)dont panic
2)search for UNI_ExitBootloader.zip. run the exe in it to get the things back to normal. This often happens with g4 universal.
And yeah, make sure that the activesync is set not to listen the usb ports

jasjar is not seen on USB
I have the same problem with my Jas Jar, after trying to update.
I tried UNI_ExitBootloader.zip but unfortunately the connection with USB does not recognize the device. I checked the activesync connections settings many times, but the Jas jar is like dead. Is not recognised by the USB!!!!!
any suggestion......
kdskamal said:
1)dont panic
2)search for UNI_ExitBootloader.zip. run the exe in it to get the things back to normal. This often happens with g4 universal.
And yeah, make sure that the activesync is set not to listen the usb ports
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I hate i-mate
I have tried to call them as well as emails with no positive response or care about their product, so I am going with these guys are really good try this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421102 is really good and fast and in top of that is stable

Newbie anxiety!

Hi all
I've taken a good long read throughout this Upgrade to WM6 subforum, I like the idea of it a lot and want to go ahead and do it, but having never re-flashed a PDA Phone before (I've done my PSP lots of times tho but thats easy in relation) I think its very difficult to find anywhere to even begin from!
Can anybody just give me a total-overall-topdown-summary-breakdown of the steps I need to perform on a fresh T-Mobile MDA Vario II. Doesn't have to be in detail, just all the basic steps required.
The forums, whilst being great for regulars seems to just confuse me the more I read them because of all the new issues raised and the individual cases on different vendor models of the Hermes.
My phone isnt a new Vario II, but I've done nothing to it except install apps, and it is showing REALLY old bootloader (I think 1.04) and radio versions (cant remember) in the system information. I'm presuming it'll require a radio upgrade at the least.
I would really appreciate a summary of everything and I think all newbies would benefit a lot.
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
-I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
-I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
-I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
-Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
-The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
-As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
Many thanks for everybodys work.
Stu

I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.

Heliosphan said:
Specific areas of confusion and concern -
(1) I would like to be able to grab the existing memory contents as an image off the phone just in case I choose to return to WM5 in future, and have a way of easily restoring it with no fuss. Exactly like ghosting a PC will return the whole OS, and all files and apps. Any recommendations how?
(2) I cant choose which custom third party WM6 ROM to use or just use HTCs official one if I should.
(3) I dont know if I'll still be able to use TomTom Navigator and some games plus I'm running TCPMP with the YouTube FlashVideoBundle. Will this still work?
(4) Should I upgrade the radio and bootloader before thinking about moving to WM6? Is there any other areas I should be flashing/rejigging before upgrading? Eg whats this about the ExtRom and gaining more space (obviously good)?
(5) The vendor lock on the firmware concerns me. Is there one on the UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II? Also about what I read somewhere about how disabling the lock with one of your tools might brick the phone (or am I getting confused somewhere along the line).
(6) As the community moves on with further developments, the divide between n00bism (me) and l33t (you) increases - case in point - kitchens??? I'm not saying though that it shouldn't happen!
(7) Many thanks for everybodys work.
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(1) No idea, but why would you want to return to WM5. Once you have WM6, you'll never go back. I'm sure there is probably a WM5 somewhere.
(2) I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
(3) Hit and miss. But probably.
(4) Upgrade the boot loader. Radio is optional, but I recommend it to.
(5) News to me
(6) Welcome to the world of custom, "free", ROMS. You like it or you don't. Download, support and enjoy, or move on
(7) You're Welcome

gwtx2 said:
I'm basing my comments on Vp3G's ROM,
Begin by reading over
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=26
(1) MUST DO: Download and install SPL (Bootloader) version 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7)
(2) Optional: Download and install an updated Radio. I'm using 1.54.07.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697
Pick out a ROM and download it. I'm currently running vp3G's
ROM version: VP3G's v3.62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
Install the ROM.
Study your phone, read, study your phone, read. Very soon, all of this will become second nature to you.
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That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.

Wow!
Thanks guys that was lightning quick!
I'll take a proper ganders at your responses tomorrow.
Thanks
Stu

ikkoku said:
That's basically what I just did last night after getting my 8525. I did the unlock before the above tho.
pretty easy and quick.
now I need a keyboard skin that is grey... schap's version (I think it was his) does not work for me dunno why.
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go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!

intrglctcrevfnk said:
go to programs\advanced config (or system tools, cant remember)
Find advancedconfiguration options, go to keyboard, then select Cingular out of the list
I had to do the same thing on schaps with my 8525
heheheh...this is post # 69 for me!
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are you talking about system tools\ htc custom?
it's already on Cingular
Also, anyone know how to get rid/change the second startup screen (Blue and Green with Windows Mobile)

Whoa, subject hijack...
...oh well, not to worry.
Anyway, in response to gwtx2, I might want to go back because some little thing I need might not work, and I might require some T-Mobile support, I'm sure they'll not touch a phone thats been reflashed with unofficial fw.
Also T-Mobile might release an official WM6 Hermes upgrade too.
Besides, have you never heard of this 'take backups = a good thing' thing?
Besides, it must be relatively easy, how else would all these custom hermes firmwares be built from?
How do these guys do it?
Thx
Stu

sorry .. didn't mean to hijack

Upgrade process.
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.

Done some stuff!
Hi all again.
Right, I've been perhaps too brave for my own good, but it turned out well!
I've installed HardSPL 2.10.Olipro on my phone, plus I've gone the whole hog and picked a very up to date radio version 1.54.00.10, I think it was originally ripped from a french firmware, I figured a Euro fw would be best suited for my UK model Hermes.
I was right I think - I now see a good fast T-Mobile home webpage, and sites load pretty good once it finds it. I also tried YouTube on TCPMP player, that seems quicker but I couldn't be totally sure.
One point I should note - When running the RUUWrapper app, AutoDetect flashed up a YES NO question on the PDA screen to accept running the program. Problem is I didn't catch it in time, so instead it threw up an autodetect error. Now after closing RUUWrapper and re-running it, it never throws up the YES NO question any more in any radio flasher (even after rebooting the PDA and the PC)! Instead I had to choose the HardSPL tickbox and the SPL 2.02/2.10 fourth option down, to continue. Slightly concerning but it worked.
Now all I need to do is up to a WM6 firmware when I choose one, it's gone well so far so my luck is bound to change!
QUESTION PLEASE-
Does anybody know the T-Mobile UK 3G Cellular Line access point password? I know the username but would need to fill in the pwd. The username is t-mobile but the pwd is ****** and wont copy paste of course! Its in the bit where you see the access point address - general.t-mobile.uk.
Many thanks to all for helping me this far.
Stu

Heliosphan said:
gwtx2 et al.
Many thanks for pointing me towards MrVanx's Hermes Guide site.
Are you sure its fine to be using the VP3G firmware for my phone given it was derived from and is in general use with a US model AT&T 8525 (A hermes 100)?
My phone is a UK model T-Mobile MDA Vario II (A hermes 300)? Thats three differences I see (Country, operator firmware, hardware revision)!
Although MrVanx guide says the Vario II is suitable on the first page, I'm thinking its worth going for a different ROM derived from the Vario II for luck.
If I choose to go with another that was derived from the HTC official one, I'm presuming the general instructions are the same then?
eg.
#1 take down settings and xfer files.
#2 reflash HardSPL bootloader
#3 reflash radio version
#4 reflash ROM.
#5 restore settings & apps.
Am I right?
Many thanks again.
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The general answer to the first part is it doesn't really matter which provider gave you your Hermes as long as it is one. (Actually, there are some differences between Hermes models but honestly don't worry about that for now.)
Don't worry about going for a ROM that's derived from T-Mob. Basically, all the different network providers get given the latest working versions of Windows Mobile from time to time for them to either check and have a play with or to customise and release as an upgrade or in the newest issues of their phones (or as a download for current users).
My Hermes is Orange UK (i.e. SPV M3100) but I've ended up at various times having WM6 versions derived rom AT&T, T-MOb, HTC et al. The only thing that matters is that it's Windows Mobile for the Hermes.
As to going back to WM5, I think it's worth having the original ROM about. If you search around the Hermes Wiki (I'd do it but it's late and I honestly can't be bothered, soz!) you'll find a list of original ROMs available for download. Note your current version and go download it so it's there ready for you to pit back on should you ever want to. (Warranty-claim time can be a good time for that.)
I'd suggest the following as a routine, myself:
1. Note down any details you might need later such as ROM version etc. Anything that comes up briefly after soft-reset or in Device Info and About in settings and any network setting for acessing GPRS or 3G etc.
2. Download the OliPro bootloader and install. The reason for this is to protect yourself as much as possible against problems.*
3. Have a gander at all the current cooked ROMs. I'd advise initially going for a lightish version as you can always add to it with cab files for your preferred extra bits.
4. Don't go for the Kitchens yet. It's best to mess with installing ROMs before trying to make one. The people eho run the kitchen threads, and the people who wrote the tools they use, have all worked very hard on making it possible for people who don't know much to make their own version of WM6 easily. It's easy but do it later.
5. Radio is absolutely optional and in most cases not very unnecessary. Like everyone else, I always want the latest of everything just in case there's a tiny, incremental improvement but if you have no problems with reception or internet access then worry about that last, if ever. Not every radio version is 'better' than the previous. The most recent version always has the highest version number obviously, but new versions are often brought out to deal with issues in a particular geographical area (usually country-specific AND network-specific, though it may or may not be better for other users elsewhere). The latest version of radio may be better for you but it might be worse and it might stop your internet of wifi working or something. Leave it for now if you have no issues with any kind of radio-related functions.
6. Installing your apps and settings is obviously something you'll do when the phone itself is done.
*There is another BRILLIANT touch to make sure you're extra super-safe and it's particularly easy: follow this link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing . Basically, if you keep a copy of the a ROM image (renamed to HERIMG.nbh) on your microSD card (check the wiki item for specifics) then you can flash your phone at the touch of a button (well, two butons) from there in an emergency. even if your house loses ekectrical power during the flashing process whilst it's connectedto your PC and your Hermes won't even THINK of booting with half an OS flashed to it, you can very nearly always restore the ROM by flashing from the card.
It's all dead simple one you get into it, it's just a tad worrying before you start to take a scalpel to a new toy you just paid good money for.
You'll be fine mate.

Aha! Your success story must've appeared whilst I was busy typing!
Nice one. Ah well!

WOOOHOOO! I'm on WM6!!!
Many thanks chunkymunky for all your comments, its nice to know some fellow brits are on here too. Which phone do you have?
Its also nice to know that any hermes ROM will work on my phone, and I'm definitely going to have a go at this SD card reflash at some point now I'm gaining confidence in reflashing. Having said that, I have an old HTC Blue Angel (Orange SPV something) and that used to occasionally crash and do a full hard reset, erasing everything. My hermes has never done that so SD reflashing could be moot.
As it goes I'd like to share my experiences - late last night I flashed my Vario II with Fun_Keys 1.5.2 thats based on the 3.62 WM6 ROM. It reflashed fine, and I am utterly over the moon!!!! My phone has been reborn into something far better, faster in lots of areas. T-Mobile UK be damned for not releasing an official WM6 upgrade (yet) because WM6 is noticeably faster, looks really great with the shiny black theme. etc etc etc.
And because of all the work the ROM authors have done, I now get full on HSDPA access on my phone, I get the H icon on the top bar and everything! I know the H Icon being present now doesnt mean that I didn't get HSDPA before on my original WM5 firmware, but I'm pretty sure it is muchos faster.
Besides, a while back, a guy on T-Mobile UK tech support said I'd only get HSDPA when using my phone as a modem for a laptop, not via PocketIE on the phone itself. That made me feel I'd been a bit ripped off.
Oh and TCPMP with FlashVideoBundle works fine too and the phone downs YT Videos really quickly. I don't even have a serious problem with the ATI Imageon stuffs.
I'd like to mention that after a good while using radio versio 1.54.00.10 that it works fantastically on a UK T-Mobile MDA Vario II. HSDPA access included. Not unexpected since it was on 1.05.05.00!!!
Also TomTom works fine with two different bluetooth GPS receivers I have. WM6 has granted me access to the 'External GPS' option in the control panel I was missing originally (bloody operator firmware!) - as a result Google Maps can now use my GPS too!!!
As a techie by profession, I'm also loving all the extra tools Fun_Keys put on, like the advanced configuration tool, the task manager, regedit etc.
Countless other advantages I've gained has basically brought my phone a new lease of life, now I definitely dont plan to upgrade to a newer phone any time soon.
Who would have thought such a simple thing would bring such happiness!
The only disappointment was with having to up to ActiveSync 4.5 which killed my partnerships! No biggie, and nothing to do with WM6.
a big Thank You to the XDA Developers forum in general for your tireless efforts.
Stu

every time i tried to update the rom or radio i've got the
260 error...why is that?...i have a htc mda basic t-mobile...and its sim locked to austria....can somebody tell me how to unlock it?

Hi all....
1st.. dont flash any full stock ROM cause it includes SPL and radio those (most important radio) are the first thing to brick a device...
2nd.. many times i flash back to wm6 just to test the performance, is ok but you must to stripp the stock rom and guess what?... is hard... so i suggest if you all want to go back to wm6 use the stripped att stock rom

A noobs question

Hello folks,
i am kinda new here, but i already spend three hours of searching on Wiki section of Hermes and this forum onto how to upgrade my Windows Mobile 5 to version 6.1.
I decided to choose a custom made ROM of Windows 6.1. Before i did the HardSPL upgrade, and now there is something i need to ask you guys.
Do i have to be afraid of screwing the device doing a straight upgrade to 6.1 from 5 ? I could find any clues on this.
Please give advice, thank you so much.

My advise is to go the 6.0 first purely for upgrading your radio to the latest release then flash with any 6.1 you want.

that emerges one more question- i am using the vodafone branded Hermes from UK in Slovakia /middle europe, so i should proceed to flash Win Mobile 6.0 first with which provided version of Win for best results ?
thatx again

icefiresr said:
that emerges one more question- i am using the vodafone branded Hermes from UK in Slovakia /middle europe, so i should proceed to flash Win Mobile 6.0 first with which provided version of Win for best results ?
thatx again
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Looks like it's got a 1.47.00.10 radio, so any of those will do ... actually best to follow this from day 1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1990320&postcount=6
Edit my 4shared as the att stripped ROM without radio as flashing too many radios can lead to a brick, so yeah

i just checked my radio version, its 1.32.00.00. sry for one more question, but i am totally new and this device costed me so much
which version can i use now ? please tell me the exact name
other details:
windodws mobile 5.1.461 (build 15671.3.3.0)
rom version 2.04.161.2
rom date 01/19/07
radio version 1.32.00.00
protocol version 32.65.7020.09W

HARD SPL YOUR PHONE 1ST!!!!!!!!!
Just about EVERY cooked rom has this as the header.
At least if something goes wrong you have a chance to recover your "expensive" toy.
If you don't have it and something goes wrong, like for example you don't have a superCID device and flash a different carrier rom, you may be able to fix it instead of getting an expensive paperweight..... READ the tutorials, thats what they're for, so we don't have people calling for help. So many people would still have a functional phone if they took the time to do a bit of research.

icefiresr said:
Hello folks,
i am kinda new here, but i already spend three hours of searching on Wiki section of Hermes and this forum onto how to upgrade my Windows Mobile 5 to version 6.1.
I decided to choose a custom made ROM of Windows 6.1. Before i did the HardSPL upgrade, and now there is something i need to ask you guys.
Do i have to be afraid of screwing the device doing a straight upgrade to 6.1 from 5 ? I could find any clues on this.
Please give advice, thank you so much.
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Good morning icefirsr,
I'm pretty new at this as well, and have flashed my phone over a dozen times in the last week. Believe me, three hours is not enough research time yet. There are many things to learn, and some of these folks are extremely knowlegable about this stuff.
Those of you with a lot of experience, please correct any of the following you don't agree with.
This is what I have done, after reading a lot of different threads:
1) Do a HARD SPL first.
2) Unlock the phone, both cid and sim
3) Read about radios - I've settled on 1.47.30.10 - it seems to be doing well with both battery life and signal reception.
4) LEARN about the different types - NonRBSN, RBSN, lite, normal, full, compressed, non-compressed. Each has stengths and weaknesses concerning speed, storage utilization, stability, features - it goes on and on.
I've flash different flavors, and am on DVH_V27_NoBS. It's a 6.1 ROM, and so far, it is great. I believe it was released on 10/30/2008.
**(Please excuse my sig for not stating my configuration, been flashing too much, but may have settled on this one for a bit.)
I've been impressed with many - I like the PDACorner roms, version 11 was my first ever flash. I'm waiting on V27 to be re-released, the first iteration I had a few problems with, but liked the speed it offered, and especially like the CRC Device Update and Connection Wizard that was included. Speaking of CRC, I really like V13, and was using it before the current DVH rom I'm using - am anxious for V14, which may even be out now.
That said, this is addicting, even bought another 8525 on eBay for play/flashing purposes...
Could any of the more experienced folks please add to this? I don't want to lead anyone down the wrong path.
Thanks a bunch everyone.

ultramag69 said:
HARD SPL YOUR PHONE 1ST!!!!!!!!!
Just about EVERY cooked rom has this as the header.
At least if something goes wrong you have a chance to recover your "expensive" toy.
If you don't have it and something goes wrong, like for example you don't have a superCID device and flash a different carrier rom, you may be able to fix it instead of getting an expensive paperweight..... READ the tutorials, thats what they're for, so we don't have people calling for help. So many people would still have a functional phone if they took the time to do a bit of research.
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please dont use caps, especially, when you are not right here, my first post already said that i did HARD SPL first
Johnzai thank you for a such long response, i am looking forward to flashing it, but i am still a bit afraid of flashing it from 5.0 to 6.0, because i dont know , which of the official 6.0 ROMS with radio update should i use to finally get to 6.1, i just cant find it anywhere

icefiresr said:
please dont use caps, especially, when you are not right here, my first post already said that i did HARD SPL first
Johnzai thank you for a such long response, i am looking forward to flashing it, but i am still a bit afraid of flashing it from 5.0 to 6.0, because i dont know , which of the official 6.0 ROMS with radio update should i use to finally get to 6.1, i just cant find it anywhere
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I would advise trying to download the official release from your cell provider first. I'm not sure if it's necessary to go from 5 to 6 to 6.1 - but verify this first. I would think you could go straight to 6.1 - perhaps upgrade your radio first to version 1.47.30.10 - I've used that version on both 6 and 6.1.
With the radio upgraded, then you could flash any 6.1 - as long as you've unlocked the phone, have you done that yet?
I would advise waiting for a post to verify this, or read a bit more about jumping from 5 to 6.1..... If I knew for sure, I would tell you instead of sending you to "threadland".

ok so far i have done this:
1.getting HARD SPL
2.doing SIM and CID unlock
3.updating RADIO to the one you mentioned , working fine, did some phone calls
4.i am gonna do a 6.1 win update straight ahead, its a cooked one,hope it works, anyone gives me a reason to not do this ?
ty

Sounds like so far, so good. I would advise reading the following post about types of ROMS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412895&page=113
Then, look at using this DVH Rom:
http://kc9.info/pdaviet/rom/Dvha79_... 20924.1.5.0 PV DVH) Black(Full) NoBS V27.exe
When you click on this link, it will be for a download, the id and password are PDAVIET and PDAVIET.
Let us know how it works for you.

WM6 ROM
Just upgrade to any of the ROMs I gave you earlier, with the radio you desire I upgraded to the latest 1.56 radio but I flashed with the ATT ROm first and I have a jasjam so .... they are inter compatible