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Increasing loudness with VOIP (SIP) calls ?

Hi,
I finally got VOIP to work on my Artemis using the VOIPBuster servers (using WM6's native VOIP implementation). Using a BT headset the sound is quite okay and even more important it doesn't break up like happens with Skype. There is only one issue left.. The sound output from the called/calling side it quite low and I can't find a way to increase it. Anybody here got an idea ?

Reliable VoIP on Hermes? Experiences?

Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.

SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE

since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.

I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.

Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.

Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...

Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.

wallabyman said:
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.

I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223

Skype

HI
I think about buying a TP2 and i wondering about Skype over the phone data link (Telstra NextG) not Wi-Fi which has been confirmed working.
Thanks

What do you want to know? Yes Skype works over 3G!

according to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532563
"I got it worrking. What's the problem? Only works on WIFI though
(at least I think, never tried diffrent)"
Skype on THE TP2 only work thought the wifi and not the data network link 3G!
So dose Skype on the TP2 work with the data network like Telstra NextG ?
thanks of any help

I believe Skype works on both WiFi and on 3G (HDSPA better I guess). Quarintis says it works ONLY on WiFi, however, he has never tried to use it on 3G. What a way to make a statement.
Be careful though that most carriers do not allow for Skype, streaming media etc over 3G or HSDPA networks. Not even with "unlimited internet" accounts.

HI, I use Skype over 3G. There is no technical problem unless your 3G provider blocks the port!
It works perfectly over the loud speaker and earphones.
However, I can hear well over bluetooth but my own voice sounds like a duck... (clip naro model)

Thanks for your help

phigafr said:
HI, I use Skype over 3G. There is no technical problem unless your 3G provider blocks the port!
It works perfectly over the loud speaker and earphones.
However, I can hear well over bluetooth but my own voice sounds like a duck... (clip naro model)
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Does this mean it works fine also in the Straight Talk mode where you turn the phone over flat on its face?
I make a lot of Skype calls from home over WiFi and I'd love to stop using a PC headset and use a proper phone instead. So with Straight Talk speaker phone + Skype that would be excellent because I can just have it sitting on my desk and don't need to hold anything.

tjobbins said:
Does this mean it works fine also in the Straight Talk mode where you turn the phone over flat on its face?
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the activation of the hands free mode by putting the phone upside down on the desk works only in normal calls.
skype per default routes all its audio through the rear loudspeakers. unfortunately their sound gets recorded by the microphne resulting in a massive echo. You probabely dont want to use skype in that configuration. The alternatives are:
1. a bluetooth headset
2. the wired headset that comes with the phone
3. routing the audio through the ear-piece (it is to silent to get recorded by the microphone)
of course none of the 3 options gives you the hands free experience

Anyone know how to make video calls on it (through Wi-Fi)? I cant seem to find the settings for the camera.

Lyian said:
Anyone know how to make video calls on it (through Wi-Fi)? I cant seem to find the settings for the camera.
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You can't find it simply because the current version of Skype mobile unfortunately does not support video calls.

Teksoft AudioRoute
Hi all
AudioRoute by Teksoft alows you to have skype calls come out the phone's earpiece, like a regular call. I think Fring does this automatically. I think they've got a thread here somewhere.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

andrew-in-woking said:
Hi all
AudioRoute by Teksoft alows you to have skype calls come out the phone's earpiece, like a regular call. I think Fring does this automatically. I think they've got a thread here somewhere.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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Using the cabled earphones, just plug it and it works with Skype.. no need anything else! or do you mean Audioroute helps for bluetooth earpiece?

anybody get skype to work over bluetooth? i downloaded both programs and can't figure out how to get it to work here.
thanks.

i had an xperia and there was a skype version for it that would let you hear the sound from the earpiece, wich is more convenient if you are not using handsfree. See, you can let the sound go trough the speaker, but not always handy if you are in private talk. audioroute works, but it's just not that convenient to switch between the speakers all the time.
So... xperia's version of skype does install on tp2, but when starting the app it says that the tp2 is not an xperia, obviously... so... how to bypass that? anyone?

SCtud said:
anybody get skype to work over bluetooth? i downloaded both programs and can't figure out how to get it to work here.
thanks.
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I have, i buy Jabra BT3030, this have hands free and stereo audio-you need this.
Jabra works with skype good
sorry for my english

dav000, how did you get skype to output sound to the bluetooth? it is not a built in feature to do this.

I've tried using Skype over NextG with my TP2, and have had nothing but extremely awful results. Horrible lag makes any Skype call over the air illegible. The only decent Skype calls I've made with the unit has been over wifi. Basically, it lags so much over Telstra that all you hear is wharblgarbl while it races to catch up. Calls skype to skype over NextG are marginally better.
For that matter, Fring over NextG is also as awful. Simply cannot make VOIP calls over the NextG network with the TP2.
It's a shame, too. With my nokia e51, you could still make Fring calls even if there was about a 2 second delay.
Mileage may vary in the city, though, but certainly not in the parts of Melbourne that I've tried (CBD, Melbourne East). I do live in country Victoria, but NextG here is still tons faster than Edge, but just can't seem to handle Skype. Knowing Telstra, maybe they've blocked the ports.

SCtud said:
dav000, how did you get skype to output sound to the bluetooth? it is not a built in feature to do this.
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Just What I Said, when you have audio stereo bluetooth headset . Than in bluetooth manager you will see :
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8639/grafik1.jpg
All sounds : calls , music, movies are played on headset

[REQ] VOIP that works!!

Hi, I, plus many others, would like a VOIP solution that works.
I know some say there is a VOIP that is built into many ROMs but I have had about 10 devices, starting with the XDAII that I have never gotten to work here in the USA.
Yes, I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 and the gOD Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574521... And many hours of searching...
I would install SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB & WM6VoIP.CAB & even SecondToday.CAB on roms with different Today skins.. (Touch Flow or whatever)...
On all roms, the today plug in "Internet calling" would not show.
I think the verizon and sprint must have sabotaged the possibility of VOIP or something.
I also have read that when people did get it to work, it would not work with their BT headsets and OR would produce sound out of the speakerphone and not the normal speaker.
Here is what I want.
I want the ability to switch between regular cell calls and VOIP.
A simple file edit or GUI like the gOD Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB
Can be switched from VOIP over WIFI or VOIP over reg cell data or reg cell phone via a button or a Today plug in..
To be able to use my Blue tooth headset.
Not use a third party app,, just the default - built in phone dialer so the ringing and other stuff.
NOR a third party app that does not slow things down, activate your WIFI.. (like fring) and that wakes your phone up for a call, yet allows it to sleep to save on battery life.
Hell everyone is doing VOIP now days, especially with the Windows based VOIP server that will even run on Windows XP. www.3CX.com .... Its free.. We use it at my business with a laptop or desktop and the 3CX softphone. To make it the best thing ever, we use a BUA-100 Plantronics BT USB device and a www.JAWBONE.com and the quality is the best thing out there and you can answer and hang up by a click on the side of the BT headset, just like your cell phone, so you can keep your hands free and not have to sit by your computer.
Asterisk is another.
Now to put that coolness into a cell phone that would go out over the hi speed wireless or WIFI, THAT would be the FRICKEN COOLEST!
I would pay $150 and I think there is MANY people who will donate money too.

[Q] Unable to fix echo problem with SIP after researching board

I have a qtek 8310 smartphone brick style nontouchscreen using a updated 6.5 standard, sleuth's voip cab that installs voip and adds internet calling into phone settings, KaiserVOIP to input my sip server details, and a custom cab file that replaces the ipdialplan. I can call out fine, but I get this echo problem that is insane to hear on the receivers end. I can also hear my own echo too.
Now the only audio routing software that actually works on my tornado phone is audioswitch. I am unable to install audioroute. With audioswitch, I can plug in my wired headset which I dont prefer, but when I use it, there is no sound coming out of my mic. I can hear perfectly fine though.
I tried using Fring, without audioswitch, in a test call inside fring's app, I can talk and hear myself fine. But when Im talking to an actual person through SIP, they hear echos. Same thing if I used the windows mobile SIP and called a google voice # and leave a message to test my mic, it actually sounds fine and no echo which is so odd to me.
I went through 100s of threads on the forum, but cant find a solution because a lot of topic hijacking that doesnt have much to do with the SIP mic problem itself. As a frustrated member, that is about to slam dunk my phone into the toilet, I would like to see if anyone be kind of enough to help me out if you have find a solution that works.
I like to use SIP without having to connect my wired headset, and bt headset, just like any other normal phone call.