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just out of curiosity...
do all you universal users willing to replace it with the i-mate ultimate 7150?
based on the initial specs is it worthy to ba a universal succesor?
ty
Jjjasjar said:
just out of curiosity...
do all you universal users willing to replace it with the i-mate ultimate 7150?
based on the initial specs is it worthy to ba a universal succesor?
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the three things missing in uni were
1)external screen
2)quad band gsm radio
3)more ram
the 7150 corrects this and is in my opinion a logical upgrade
I do not see the external buttons for the phone command on this imate???!!!
too boxy for my liking, and the universal can be upgraded
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too boxy for my liking, and the universal can be upgraded
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can you elaborate on that???
i am yet to see a uni. with more than 64mb ram, quad band gsm and an external screen
upgraded in the sense of software, there's xda-developers and a great team of unofficial developers
i don't think i'm gonna replace my universal but if had the $, i'd buy the 9150
true sucessor
IMHO there are only two phones that could truly replace the thc universal:
1.) Samsung G900
2.) HTC Omni
The Specs are damn juicy, they faster and smaller than the HTC Universal and they have WVGA (800x600)
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IMHO there are only two phones that could truly replace the thc universal:
1.) Samsung G900
2.) HTC Omni
The Specs are damn juicy, they faster and smaller than the HTC Universal and they have WVGA (800x600)
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1) its toshiba g900
wvga is 800x400
but in my limited experience with uni i can tell you that it is very hard to find software that supports vga...so you can imagine how bad the support for wvga would be...
fallenczar said:
1) its toshiba g900
wvga is 800x400
but in my limited experience with uni i can tell you that it is very hard to find software that supports vga...so you can imagine how bad the support for wvga would be...
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wrong again, according to the spec wvga comes in the following flawors:
720 x 400 (18:10),
800 x 480 (15:9),
848 x 480 (<16:9),
852 x 480 (>16:9)
864 x 480 (18:5)
Anyway both the toshiba g900 (yeah, not samsung ) and the HTC Omni come with a wvga (800x480) screen.
I don't know what apps you need/use but all apps that I need do support vga/wvga (such as MS Mobile Office, Mobile Opera, Acrobat Reader, NewsGator Go, Total Commander Mobile, Live Messenger ...)
let the sh*tstorm begin
look, I aint a bigger knower of things... but quite frankly- as of this moment the 7150 looks like a prime case of vaporware.
take a look....
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=721
It was slated for a April launch... now it's June release...
No working models reviewed, 3 month after announcement...
Only pictures out are the same screen, with 11:13 inside and 13:36 on external
this gives me bad flashbacks of the Moto MPx (true collectors piece now )
opinions?
(please prove me wrong!!!)
toshiba g900 has a small screen (3") and 64mb ram. hardly a successor!
this looks interesting, although its probably huge and will cost insane amount of money.
HTC SHIFT
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php
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HTC SHIFT
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php
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I want it!!!
I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
It's a great device, you won't make a mistake It has Intel PXA263 400mhz processor (This is the only thing i don't like in blueangel. It is not so fast. If you plan to play 3d games it is not very good for this. But you can easily overclock it with pocket master to 530mhz. With this frequency it handles everything without Snow Rally - there's a little lag and you can't play Playstation 1 games even if you overclock it to 590. I got 21-23fps in Tony Hawk Pro Skater with @530mhz and Frameskip - 2), 128 ram (This is great! With so much ram you don't need real close button.But there are no applications that wants more than 32 ram, so this is not a big advantage), Big screen and the best design for games(The screen is perfect. It wouldn't be bad if there was VGA screen but QVGA is not so bad either. In web browsing the qvga resolution is a big dissadvantage. You have to scrool a lot. But now there are browsers now that supports Zoom function.With it the browsing is good even on qvga device. When Opera 9.5 comes out it will rock And the design is great for games. It's like joystick when you handle it in landscape position and there are many buttons), 64mb Flash Storage(It's not much but you don't need more. There are SD Cards for that), SD/MMC expansion slot( The bad thing here is that it doesn't support SDHC, there are no drivers for that and there won't be in future ), CIF camera (It is really badd. The image quality is similar. If you try to record video it lags. I don't know why :/ It does it wven in the lowest quality), WiFi( No problems here), Bluetooth (No problems here either), IrDA( It can't be used as a remote controller because the irda range is around 3 meters)
And finally the PocketPC comes with WM2003. You can install WM6.1 but I recommend you to wait for explode's WM6.1. His roms are the best With the new windows the pocket becmoes really fast and stable. That's all, it's a great device
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I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
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Nice choice. I recently picked up a hermes and while it is very nice, there are some things I miss from the Angel.
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Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
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I don't quite understand this question. If you are asking if it was sold under the name of Blue Angel, no. Blue Angel is the HTC internal name for the phone. It was never sold by HTC directly, but to the various cell carriers who rebadged it with their own plastics and ROM/applications.
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also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
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Pros:
Good CPU speed (the keiser runs at the same speed, 400 mhz)
The CPU has been around for a while, so 3rd party apps that are designed for the CPU work well.
Good physical size on the screen
Lots of storage and program memory when the extended ROM is resized/removed.
Cons:
Since it is an older platform, any MW version after 2003 is a hack. The drivers are generally ported from other phones and there are various bugs that will probably never be fixed due to a lack of hardware drivers. Everything does work, there are just various quirks.
Radio range (bluetooth, wifi, etc) are not the best. Heck, they often tend to be down right crappy.
Unless someone is able to write and release a SDHC driver for the card slot, it will never support SDHC cards, which will limit the phone to 4 gig cards. 2 gig is the official spec for SD, but there are a few 4 gig non-SDHC cards out there.
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I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
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I still like mine and plan on passing it to my wife or using it for testing and development if she doesn't want it.
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cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
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I would. MW6 is a huge improvement over 2003 and 5. The latest ROM builds out there work very well, if not 99% perfectly, and are fast.
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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I second that! Just ditched my Hermes for my old trusty Blue Angel, which blows the pants off it! I forgot how much I loved the 3.5 inch screen!
Rookie as well with the Blue Angel
I am getting started with the Blue angel as well (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I got a couple of complementary questions about it.
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
you should go with opera mobile, as it is better suited for pda's. opera mini is suited for java based mobile phones.
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Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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man i wish they would do that, or release a device with the same glorious screen but with contemporary features, all in all the blu angel is still a killer device 4 years on.
Absolutely right. I had been using the subj for 4 years in nearly extremal conditions, uprading and downgrading firmware dozen times. But, unfortunately it died as hero. Really great gadget, legend of HTC platform challenging ages.
Hi
Well with WM 6.1 it does everything I need and thats for sure I have my pick of devices and always come back to this one - and the 11i which is just about as good
I cant think of a time I have been upset with what it does or doesn't do. I intend keep one for as long as it will run....
John P
Hello Trinity forum,
iam intedning to buy a Trinity P3600, as i see on the phone spec., it does have a built-in GPS module.
however the WM6 and WM6.1 Roms posted in this forum doesnt have any indication to support it, am I right?
another question: from your experience, do you recommand it? the spec. seems to be ok, fast CPU, big ram, GPS, UMTS HSDPA. iam excited to have one!
Regards
P.S.: for now i am using the HTC Prophet
No need to panic, GPS is all working and fine, I've used many ROM's 6 and 6.1, GPS works fine in them all.
Unless you really think you need a hardware keyboard, I would HIGHLY recommend this phone. It's small enough to fit in the pocket, but PACKED with features. I use TomTom software for the GPS and it works GREAT! I also have a TomTom Rider for my motorcycle, and they both work almost identically.
For a FREE alternative to TomTom software, you can always download the FREE Microsoft Live Search software. It has GPS traffic directions in it. Not quite as easy to use as TomTom, but Free... It also includes free traffic conditions and Satellite Maps. You can see your house on your phone.
PS: Welcome to the club.
Microsoft Live Search Software: wls.live.com from your mobile phone.
Thank you guys....
I think that touche cruise is much a better option right now than trinity.
It has more ram, better gps chip and official wm6 support
firiel said:
I think that touche cruise is much a better option right now than trinity.
It has more ram, better gps chip and official wm6 support
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I hope the Polaris does not have the same problems as the Tytn2.
My Tytn2 feels extremely slow compared to the P3600.
Tried a lot of ROMs but I prefer my P3600.
firiel said:
I think that touche cruise is much a better option right now than trinity.
It has more ram, better gps chip and official wm6 support
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Right...
Trinity was the best 1 year ago.
Today the HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris) is a better solution.
More RAM/ROM
A-GPS support
Better Touch Screen
Radio FM.
Official WM6.
Hi all,
HTC Touch Diamond is out and u can see in these links the beatiful new touchflow 3D that will be very welcome on our trinity
TouchFlow 3D
Video
"The most important factor of this new device is HTC's new Touch Flo 3D interface. The new interface aims to compete against Apple's iPhone touch interface. From a video demonstration by MoDaCo it appears that the technology suffers from some common drawbacks to Windows Mobile's own interface and system. Occasionally freezing and not always responding to screen taps correctly. Checkout the video below to see what I am referring to. HTC has integrated Opera's mobile browser into the device and it appears to offer an improved interface for web browsing on Windows Mobile devices. A YouTube specific application features on the device almost like the iPhone equivalent."
(neowin.net)
This may be discussed on xda, sorry if dble post.
WOOOOW, ITS AMAZING..waiting for it to come to egypt )
the bad thing about HTC Diamond that its VGA not QVGA
BUT i hope that we can put the 3d home screen on P3600
Yes the Diamond looks like a nice phone, it's even smaller than a HTC Touch. BUT, it is only triband so if you live or travel to north america it won't get reception in some country areas. Even though it has 4gb of built-in memory it would have been nice if there was a microSD slot since they will soon be up to 16 and 32gb.
Otherwise I'd be the first in line for this tiny brother of the Trinity. Maybe the next model called the Raphael which is a Diamond w/keyboard will be quad band.
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the bad thing about HTC Diamond that its VGA not QVGA
BUT i hope that we can put the 3d home screen on P3600
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More bad news, Diamond has 3d acceleration hardware... so i think it will be almost imposible to bring this new Touch Flo 3D to ours trinitys.... but i will try..
It's MANILA!!!
Do you remember???
was anticipated sometime ago as manila interface!!
also elia said me that manilla is too slow unlucky....
Finally HTC seem to have realized the importance of RAM amount to keep WM running smooth: 192 MB DDR SDRAM.
This interface will not come to our trinity's
aburman said:
Finally HTC seem to have realized the importance of RAM amount to keep WM running smooth: 192 MB DDR SDRAM.
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yah but you know that VGA device take more RAM than QVGA device to run any apps
our video card is not badly, but we haven't got 3d driver!
many applications 3d that they turn on our device are simulated by some dll librery.
in more we have not the codes sources....than we cannot modify the functionalities of the video card.
the problem of vga-qvga remains on second level
sorry for eng...
i am getting one in october
im off to hong kong
i am going to get one while there
can't wait......looks a great phone
Oh my God, I WANT THIS!!!!
any idea about the price and is it avilable yet?
alaaassem said:
any idea about the price and is it avilable yet?
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It will be available during June, and it will cost around 600 €.
Cheers.
ark666 said:
It will be available during June, and it will cost around 600 €.
Cheers.
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But note: No Memory Slot!
Maybe because of the 4 Gig storage memory you dont mind. but rumours say that there will be a business edititon with memory slot later...
Launch in Italy
In Italy it will be available 15 june 2008 at 699 euros....not bad i think :-D
http://www.mobilestyle.it/htc_touch_diamond_garanzia_italia.phtml
Cheers
Florin
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yah but you know that VGA device take more RAM than QVGA device to run any apps
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Folks pls note the battery is really low only 900amh as i know
Monday, 14th July, 590 Eur here
Hope that's true about business edition with slot mem card
but I wonder how much more will cost...
I too have read somewhere that HTC Diamond doesn't have memory-card slot ...this seems very disappointing.
Hi,
just tested the "anja" Diamond 1.0 rom, but it's not 100% the same,the main thing I flashed for is the 3D booklet with contacts and HTC home down, but it wasn't in it.
Can anybody make a rom (or program) with the same screens as the Diamond (3d booklet on homepage with contacts on the right see enclosure)? Also the HTC Home tabs are completely down the screen and a direct photo button,...
Thanks,
Innovator
There will be one main problem.... the artemis chip is far away from beeing fast enough for this kind of gimicks
Innovator said:
Hi,
just tested the "anja" Diamond 1.0 rom, but it's not 100% the same,the main thing I flashed for is the 3D booklet with contacts and HTC home down, but it wasn't in it.
Can anybody make a rom (or program) with the same screens as the Diamond (3d booklet on homepage with contacts on the right see enclosure)? Also the HTC Home tabs are completely down the screen and a direct photo button,...
Thanks,
Innovator
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I think many people here working on what you ask for. And if it would be so easy then you could already have it.
Totally agree with Daiphi!!
Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz VS Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz
I think tah cocludes it all!
No reason for and artemis rom with bling-bling 3D effects and no speed what so ever!
3D booklet
I had the Qtek 2020i (520mhz) and the Eten G500 (400MHZ) but i really don't need the fast processor. For only GSM, GPS, WIFI the OMAP 200MZ is fast enough, i have no complaints about applications that run slow, and half processor = half battery consumption. Batterystatus can pimp up your P3300 to 260mhz, but i really don't need this.
I think if someone (maybe Tom Condon could make a fast rom without too many junk, this 3D booklet would run smooth, like the 3D cube.
I think maybe in 2-3 years the P3300 can get slower, due to gps-manufacturers that make better 3D Graphics, but by then the Diamond is dropped to €300 and we have this one allready
Hope to test Igo My Way 8 soon, cause TomTom Navigator's graphics are very basic...
Cheers,
Innovator
^ I've seen Igo 8 on my friend's artemis, and it runs pretty slow on the Artemis Touch 4.02 rom. Well, actually its the same as Tomtom, but when the buildings or any 3D objects on the map come into focus, it does start struggling..
randomgoon said:
^ I've seen Igo 8 on my friend's artemis, and it runs pretty slow on the Artemis Touch 4.02 rom. Well, actually its the same as Tomtom, but when the buildings or any 3D objects on the map come into focus, it does start struggling..
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Tried igo 8 on my orbit - it works on o2 factory rom - but some cooked roms have not enough free ram. After 3 days still 22,7 MB free RAM (screenshots are incl. s. signature)
Innovator said:
I had the Qtek 2020i (520mhz) and the Eten G500 (400MHZ) but i really don't need the fast processor. For only GSM, GPS, WIFI the OMAP 200MZ is fast enough, i have no complaints about applications that run slow, and half processor = half battery consumption. Batterystatus can pimp up your P3300 to 260mhz, but i really don't need this.
I think if someone (maybe Tom Condon could make a fast rom without too many junk, this 3D booklet would run smooth, like the 3D cube.
I think maybe in 2-3 years the P3300 can get slower, due to gps-manufacturers that make better 3D Graphics, but by then the Diamond is dropped to €300 and we have this one allready
Hope to test Igo My Way 8 soon, cause TomTom Navigator's graphics are very basic...
Cheers,
Innovator
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iGo8 works great on this device, I have it installed myself!
I have installed IGO8 on Artemis Touch 4.02 Full no Cube ROM
runs perfect and quick (with full details)
tested also with Anja Mossi Diamond style rom - and there is low free RAM for IGO8
Tested Igo8 today with Oop Black Beta Public Rom from Tom Condon (not condom), no delays, hope to see Tom's latest rom soon with some diamond influences, and booklet maybe instead of cube???
Also installed 'A-GPS' for the first time (quickgps also on rom, but A-gps should be good for 10 days or something).
So people saying IGO8 runs slow on their P3300 --> install a faster rom!!!
Some pre-cooked roms have so much junk that everythings goes slow.
Just take a basic rom (4.02 lite with no cube for example) and install your own stuff.
It's very difficult to cook a rom with tools that everyone uses... i prefer the lite stuff
But when the 3D Diamond interfacte would be included, i would not doubt to install this rom